| 02:40.05 | jima | Sargun: gtf off irc, you're in hawaii :-P |
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| 13:00.58 | Emi | hi hi hi hi hi hi hi hi |
| 13:03.23 | jima | Sargun: it has. and you're still on irc. #fail |
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| 13:09.18 | Emi | What's up |
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| 14:31.53 | jima | Emi: not much, just another beautiful day of work |
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| 15:06.01 | Emi | Cool |
| 15:06.03 | Emi | How many people here are mormon? |
| 15:09.33 | Migs | ??? |
| 15:09.36 | Migs | Emi: Who are you? |
| 15:09.51 | Emi | I am new |
| 15:09.53 | Emi | :) |
| 15:10.20 | Migs | I'm not aware of any statistics indicating how many visitors to #utah are Mormon. |
| 15:15.51 | jima | i think we get more inquiries about that than actual discussions about faith. |
| 15:16.29 | jima | (which is amazing, since it matters so, so much.) |
| 15:17.31 | jima | my summary: some of us are lds, some of us are not. i don't think it's ever mattered. |
| 15:24.30 | RyanE | some of us are *physically* in Utah, some are not. |
| 15:25.44 | jima | that too. i'm not even 100% sure all of us have set foot in the state (i'm looking at you, [redacted]!) |
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| 15:32.33 | Tod-Work | jima, RyanE, it gets even weirder if you start looking at things like practicing or not |
| 15:32.50 | Tod-Work | for instance, I'm ethnically Mormon, but not so much religiously |
| 15:33.10 | Tod-Work | (yes, ethnically Mormon is a thing now) |
| 15:33.24 | Tod-Work | (because I made it so) |
| 15:33.38 | jima | Tod-Work: well, ethnically jewish has been a thing for long enough, i don't see why not. |
| 15:33.58 | Tod-Work | exactly! |
| 15:34.21 | jima | and heck, you could also be ETHICALLY mormon, but not religiously. ;-) |
| 15:34.25 | Tod-Work | It actually came from a friend of mine in Michigan who is a better Mormon than I am and he's not even Mormon, ethnically or otherwise. |
| 15:34.44 | jima | (honestly, i misread ethnically as ethically at first.) |
| 15:35.07 | Tod-Work | they're pretty similar |
| 15:35.16 | jima | well, maybe. |
| 15:35.27 | Tod-Work | not maybe, measurably so. |
| 15:35.39 | jima | oh, do you mean the words themselves? |
| 15:35.44 | Tod-Work | yes |
| 15:35.48 | Tod-Work | the spelling thereof |
| 15:36.06 | jima | oh, yes then. quite similar. |
| 15:36.14 | jima | i thought you meant the concepts. |
| 15:36.18 | Tod-Work | nah |
| 15:36.27 | Tod-Work | concepts are for sissies |
| 15:36.42 | Tod-Work | (I'm not sure what that means, mind you) |
| 15:36.57 | jima | sounds like a concept. |
| 15:37.44 | Tod-Work | probably why I don't know it |
| 15:37.50 | Tod-Work | is in a mood |
| 15:37.58 | Tod-Work | codes with this mood, with hilarious variable names! |
| 15:38.10 | jima | oh dear |
| 15:49.38 | Migs | Emi: Do you have any further comments, or are you just the sort that throws out zingers to get people talking, then steps out of the convo? |
| 15:53.22 | Tod-Work | He threw down a smoke ball before he went afk, though, so it's legit |
| 15:53.25 | Tod-Work | restarts |
| 15:56.03 | jima | Sargun: say hi to my boss, he's somewhere around there ;-) |
| 16:04.43 | RyanE | he's in the state of Denial? |
| 16:05.43 | jima | no he's not...err, wait. |
| 16:06.22 | jima | he's been to egypt, but he's not there now. (let the groaning commence.) |
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| 16:50.57 | ascension | Sorry guys |
| 16:50.59 | ascension | I was away |
| 16:51.22 | ascension | Lol |
| 16:51.24 | ascension | You guys |
| 16:51.37 | ascension | I am ethnically mormon AND Jewish |
| 16:52.22 | ascension | Migs: I actually have a ton of comments on Mormonism |
| 16:52.26 | ascension | If you're interested |
| 16:53.42 | Tod-Work | could not find a topic more boring |
| 16:53.52 | Tod-Work | no, that's not true |
| 16:54.08 | Tod-Work | Just not right off the top of my head |
| 16:54.30 | jima | hey now, guys -- the only religious wars in here should be the technical ones. ;-) |
| 16:55.27 | Tod-Work | See? There's a topic more boring |
| 16:56.04 | Tod-Work | "Emacs vs Vim" Maybe you missed the last 40 years... |
| 16:56.06 | ascension | What's a technical religious war? |
| 16:56.10 | ascension | Ohhhh |
| 16:56.15 | ascension | Gentoo!!!!! Portage!!!! |
| 16:56.17 | ascension | I win |
| 16:56.23 | Tod-Work | <3 Portage |
| 16:56.28 | Tod-Work | now if anyone would maintain it.... |
| 16:56.45 | ascension | Jk I use Mac OS |
| 16:56.48 | ascension | I lose :/ |
| 16:56.50 | Tod-Work | and if it wouldn't randomly at about the 12-18 month mark just ruin the whole world |
| 16:57.01 | Tod-Work | with Mac OSX, everybody loses |
| 16:57.08 | ascension | I wonder if there's a California channel |
| 16:57.15 | Tod-Work | I'm sure there are several |
| 16:57.15 | ascension | I actually live in California |
| 16:57.37 | ascension | Maybe I shouldn't meet any more IRCers |
| 16:57.41 | ascension | My last bf was from IRC |
| 16:57.44 | ascension | He was a heroin addict |
| 16:57.45 | ascension | :/ |
| 16:57.54 | ascension | I've had some bad luck |
| 16:58.38 | jima | i used to make great fun of portage users. |
| 16:59.11 | Tod-Work | IRCers are just bots. If you get attached to them, it's bad news |
| 16:59.14 | Tod-Work | except RyanE |
| 16:59.16 | ascension | Lel |
| 16:59.19 | Tod-Work | he's a cruel bot |
| 16:59.31 | jima | of course, at the time i worked for a tiny, completely unrelated company named portage, which had an amusingly useful domain name for doing so. |
| 16:59.35 | ascension | I do have a thing for eggdrops... |
| 16:59.37 | ascension | :/ |
| 16:59.44 | jima | ascension: tmi |
| 16:59.52 | ascension | Do you guys live in slc? |
| 16:59.55 | jima | (actually, i have an eggdrop named tmi on another network) |
| 17:00.04 | jima | slc proper? nah. |
| 17:00.19 | Tod-Work | lives in Orem, but it looking to move north, but never to SLC proper |
| 17:00.46 | joshh | ascension: where in CA? |
| 17:02.33 | jima | ascension: a dirty secret is that slc proper has terrible internet options...few hardcore tech types want to live within the city limits. :-) |
| 17:02.53 | ascension | San Diego ish |
| 17:02.59 | jima | ok |
| 17:03.05 | RyanE | And when anyone outside of Utah says "SLC", they really mean the entire Salt Lake Valley. :) |
| 17:03.17 | ascension | Lol |
| 17:03.21 | joshh | me and sargun and jlp (part time) are in bay area |
| 17:03.23 | jima | knows a lot of californians, but mostly LA/OC or SFBA |
| 17:03.24 | ascension | I've been to Utah a bunch of times |
| 17:03.30 | ascension | I have family there |
| 17:03.32 | RyanE | with exceptions |
| 17:03.55 | jima | joshh: is Sargun SFBA? i was thinking LA. |
| 17:03.58 | ascension | Where is the high tech in Utah? |
| 17:04.06 | joshh | everything outside of SLC that isn't a national park or similar outdoor area is a terrible place for people from outside of utah to go |
| 17:04.08 | jima | ascension: all over salt lake & utah counties. |
| 17:04.10 | RyanE | where everything else is: along the Wasatch Front |
| 17:04.18 | joshh | jima: ya he lives in SF |
| 17:04.19 | RyanE | everything else is orchards and cows. |
| 17:04.26 | Tod-Work | unhappy cows |
| 17:04.27 | RyanE | and a big friggin' desert. |
| 17:04.28 | harleypig | But there aren't any happy endings in Utah County. |
| 17:04.28 | ascension | Hey I love Fillmore! |
| 17:04.33 | RyanE | harleypig: HA! |
| 17:04.36 | ascension | It's spectacular |
| 17:04.43 | jima | joshh: it's funny, i've actually known Sargun far longer than i've been in this channel |
| 17:04.44 | ascension | Lol jk |
| 17:04.45 | ascension | Well |
| 17:04.49 | ascension | Actually I do kind of like it |
| 17:04.59 | ascension | Pretty different from places in CA |
| 17:05.14 | ascension | Utah has the best national parks |
| 17:05.18 | ascension | xoxoxoxo Utah |
| 17:05.21 | joshh | actually, park city is viable for regular americans to visit |
| 17:05.28 | ascension | Sundance? |
| 17:05.33 | joshh | no name saloon |
| 17:05.36 | joshh | good buffalo burgers |
| 17:05.50 | ascension | My family is in Ogden |
| 17:05.52 | ascension | And Morgan |
| 17:06.06 | joshh | ya, you have it better than the |
| 17:06.07 | joshh | m |
| 17:06.21 | jima | the night life here is a little duller than where i'm from, but i didn't really engage in that sort of thing much anymore, anyway. |
| 17:06.36 | ascension | I like slc night life |
| 17:06.38 | Tod-Work | Ogden is a hole =c/ |
| 17:06.40 | ascension | The Tavernacle |
| 17:06.43 | ascension | looooooool |
| 17:06.54 | ascension | Do any hardcore mormons find that blasphemous? |
| 17:07.17 | RyanE | unlikely |
| 17:07.18 | Tod-Work | Nothing to do, nothing to see, no good infrastructure, no jobs, lots of drugs |
| 17:07.37 | RyanE | puns on Mormon names are pretty common for bars in the area. |
| 17:07.44 | RyanE | or for microbrews. |
| 17:07.46 | Tod-Work | yeah |
| 17:07.54 | Tod-Work | Wasatch brews mostly |
| 17:08.07 | Tod-Work | Uinta brewers is more classy |
| 17:08.19 | Tod-Work | <3 their Golden Spike hefe |
| 17:08.27 | ascension | Beerhive |
| 17:08.28 | ascension | Loooo |
| 17:08.30 | joshh | some of uinta's stuff is for sale out here, but haven't seen other utah brands |
| 17:08.31 | ascension | Loool |
| 17:08.42 | ascension | I like the one bar in Provo |
| 17:08.44 | joshh | beerhive is one of the best bars in slc, for beer, but that's not saying much |
| 17:08.49 | Tod-Work | joshh, Epic? |
| 17:08.50 | joshh | the state laws really limit the available selection |
| 17:08.50 | ascension | What a strange place |
| 17:08.52 | ascension | Lol |
| 17:08.54 | joshh | haven't seen epic here |
| 17:08.56 | Tod-Work | wow |
| 17:09.07 | joshh | but uinta is fairly common |
| 17:09.09 | ascension | I have a new fascination with Mormons |
| 17:09.12 | Tod-Work | they're all over the west coast from my limited exposure to it recently |
| 17:09.14 | joshh | safeway has the hop nosh ipa most of the time |
| 17:09.24 | ascension | And the future of the Mormon church |
| 17:09.28 | ascension | In the age of information |
| 17:09.51 | Tod-Work | eh, well, you're welcome to your fascination, but you'll be sad to know the info on mormons is light here |
| 17:09.51 | joshh | Tod-Work: you've seen epic in the bay area? |
| 17:10.18 | ascension | Oh |
| 17:10.23 | Tod-Work | joshh, specifically in palo alto via my in-laws |
| 17:10.24 | joshh | just watch the new documentary, you will learn all you need to know! |
| 17:10.34 | ascension | ##lds-tech has this channel in the topic |
| 17:10.36 | RyanE | and trolling Mormons is frowned upon here. i.e. "have you seen these anti-mormon materials?" |
| 17:10.38 | ascension | What documentary? |
| 17:10.47 | ascension | They're not anti mormon even |
| 17:10.51 | ascension | They're church documents! |
| 17:10.52 | ascension | Lol |
| 17:10.52 | joshh | there's a new movie that shows mormons acting like normal human beings |
| 17:11.00 | joshh | instead of whatever else people expect |
| 17:11.02 | RyanE | still trolling |
| 17:11.07 | ascension | Does it show their disturbing temple endowment? |
| 17:11.10 | Tod-Work | joshh, Meet the Mormons? |
| 17:11.12 | ascension | Looool |
| 17:11.15 | joshh | ya |
| 17:11.19 | Tod-Work | I thought it was a comedy... |
| 17:11.27 | Tod-Work | shows how much I pay attention |
| 17:11.31 | ascension | It does?? |
| 17:11.38 | joshh | haven't seen it, but i do read the tribune online, so im aware of it |
| 17:12.02 | jima | there's a billboard for it on my daily commute |
| 17:12.33 | ascension | I want to see it |
| 17:12.39 | ascension | It's pretty odd |
| 17:12.48 | ascension | That they have a movie like that |
| 17:12.57 | ascension | Imagine "meet the Catholics" |
| 17:13.07 | ascension | Or "meet the Lutherans" |
| 17:13.11 | joshh | catholics are weird as hell |
| 17:13.15 | ascension | They obviously have something to prove |
| 17:13.18 | jima | i'm idly curious about the movie, but not enough that i'd see it in a theater. |
| 17:13.22 | joshh | have you seen the popes outfits? |
| 17:13.24 | ascension | joshh: not as weird as Mormons IMO |
| 17:13.47 | jima | i'm not sure 'meet the mormons' would fly anywhere but here |
| 17:13.51 | ascension | I am an organist for a Catholic Church |
| 17:13.56 | ascension | Roman Catholic |
| 17:13.57 | jima | 'meet the lutherans' might work in minnesota |
| 17:14.03 | ascension | And they don't weird me out |
| 17:14.08 | Tod-Work | no, dudes, Japan is weird. religious groups are just tryin' to figure things out just like everyone else |
| 17:14.08 | ascension | Mormons do though |
| 17:14.14 | ascension | The testimony meetings |
| 17:14.19 | ascension | The secret temple ordinances |
| 17:14.22 | joshh | true, Tod-Work |
| 17:14.32 | Tod-Work | their peculiarities tend to be more mild than say conspiracy theorists, for instance |
| 17:14.35 | joshh | imagine if an alien society landed here and only saw japan |
| 17:14.48 | Tod-Work | but even conspiracy theorists can be nice and tame compared to Japan |
| 17:17.32 | joshh | ascension: if you really care about that stuff you can find it all on youtube/reddit. |
| 17:18.00 | joshh | personally i have no issues with mormons at all other than the utah 3.2 beer, but that's not really their fault directly |
| 17:18.10 | ascension | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:18.16 | ascension | People might investigate the religion online |
| 17:18.20 | joshh | no, because nobody cares about it |
| 17:18.25 | ascension | It's drawing attention to mormons |
| 17:18.28 | ascension | In a dangerous time |
| 17:18.51 | joshh | romney and prop 8 drew attention to them, and not much changed |
| 17:19.09 | ascension | Hmm |
| 17:19.14 | ascension | It's so bizarre to me |
| 17:19.22 | ascension | How members stay faithful |
| 17:19.27 | ascension | Despite so much info against it |
| 17:19.49 | fungus | Mormons are specifically not allowed, and admonished against reading/watching anything critical to "the church". |
| 17:19.52 | joshh | as a former utahn in SF, the only thing anyone has asked me about mormons is "do you think romney wears the magic underwear?" |
| 17:20.08 | joshh | and i just say "probably" |
| 17:20.53 | joshh | nobody cares or has any interest in the actual religion |
| 17:21.03 | ascension | L |
| 17:21.06 | ascension | Lol |
| 17:21.09 | joshh | and nobody needs to see a movie to know they are regular human beings |
| 17:21.19 | ascension | I think you can see them |
| 17:21.24 | ascension | Under his white shirts |
| 17:21.26 | ascension | But anyway |
| 17:21.31 | RyanE | I think ascension might benefit from it... :) |
| 17:21.40 | ascension | They did expose that they had blood oathes |
| 17:21.43 | ascension | In the temple |
| 17:21.48 | ascension | During the time Romney was sealed |
| 17:22.09 | ascension | And that he certainly took them |
| 17:22.19 | joshh | it does seem like more people are fascinated by mormons than freemasons, scientologists, amish, etc for some reason |
| 17:22.35 | fungus | Mormons may have some interesting quirks, but they aren't any stranger or more ridiculous than any other religion. |
| 17:23.09 | fungus | s/other religion/other mainstream religion/ |
| 17:23.25 | joshh | i live near one of the 2 mormon churches in SF, but it's a 100% chinese ward or something |
| 17:23.52 | ascension | I disagree |
| 17:23.53 | joshh | the other is in pelosi's neighborhood somewhere but i've never seen it |
| 17:23.56 | ascension | Mormons are stranger |
| 17:24.06 | ascension | I've been around a lot of different churches |
| 17:24.09 | ascension | As a church organist |
| 17:24.10 | joshh | and i've been to the oakland temple just out of curiousity to walk around... it has an incredible view |
| 17:24.14 | ascension | Mormons are especially strange |
| 17:24.38 | joshh | mormons have garments, catholics have medieval priest costumes |
| 17:24.49 | joshh | what's the difference? |
| 17:24.58 | ascension | The secrecy |
| 17:25.11 | ascension | And that you MUST Wwee them |
| 17:25.16 | ascension | Wear |
| 17:25.19 | ascension | For exaltation |
| 17:25.20 | ascension | ... |
| 17:25.40 | fungus | Other religions have strange things like that too |
| 17:25.41 | Tod-Work | isn't |
| 17:25.51 | ascension | What mainstream religion does? |
| 17:26.14 | RyanE | ascension: and your point is??? Mormons do something I don't do, therefore they're weird. You're trolling. |
| 17:26.23 | fungus | Jews wear yamikas. |
| 17:26.23 | ascension | I'm not trolling! |
| 17:26.35 | joshh | ya, jews do some crazy weird stuff, and eat special hot dogs |
| 17:26.37 | ascension | I was raised mormon |
| 17:26.39 | ascension | To an extent |
| 17:26.47 | Tod-Work | s/trolling/building a case that doesn't exist/ |
| 17:26.54 | ascension | And I never knew about the temple ordinances |
| 17:26.57 | ascension | Until now |
| 17:27.03 | jalbretsen | RyanE: He also appears to have an ax that needs grinding. |
| 17:27.08 | ascension | They disturb me |
| 17:27.09 | RyanE | jalbretsen: yep |
| 17:27.10 | ascension | :/ |
| 17:27.24 | RyanE | a lot of things disturb me, and are just as applicable to #utah. |
| 17:27.27 | ascension | I think about my girl cousins |
| 17:27.29 | ascension | With veils over their faces |
| 17:27.38 | fungus | IMHO, all religions are ridiculous, and the differences between them are not large enough to be significant |
| 17:27.43 | joshh | they are apparently copied from freemason rituals |
| 17:27.53 | ascension | joshh: yes it's true |
| 17:28.12 | Tod-Work | copied/influenced/inspired by, depending on the vernacular in context |
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| 17:28.42 | ascension | Do other religions have a history of blood oathes? |
| 17:28.46 | RyanE | ascension: go grind your ax elsewhere. |
| 17:28.47 | ascension | Don't say the Catholics |
| 17:28.50 | ascension | Perhaps they do |
| 17:28.57 | ascension | But they've had a LONG time to fuck up |
| 17:29.09 | ascension | And have existed through very different eras in history |
| 17:29.20 | joshh | but ya i have to agree with the mormons here. if you actually troll about it people will eventually get you kicked or ignored. if you really are curious or just want to talk about how disturbed you are, you would do better at reddit/youtube |
| 17:29.33 | ascension | Oh |
| 17:29.36 | Tod-Work | reddit especially |
| 17:29.39 | ascension | I'm actually not trolling |
| 17:29.44 | ascension | But if you'd prefer id shut up |
| 17:29.46 | ascension | Okay |
| 17:29.47 | ascension | Sorry |
| 17:30.03 | jalbretsen | if it looks like duck, and walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck... |
| 17:30.13 | Tod-Work | ascension, regardless of your intend, your language infers more about your position on mormonism instead of mormonism |
| 17:30.14 | fungus | This isn't a good place for honest discussion about mormons |
| 17:30.17 | joshh | you can say "why do you guys do X ritual?" and someone might answer. but if you say "wow that's freaky" then you won't have a good response |
| 17:30.40 | Tod-Work | you brand rather than discuss, which is kind of the reason it IS trolling |
| 17:31.07 | Tod-Work | If that concept escapes you, well, again, reddit will accept you with open arms |
| 17:31.53 | youtah | is looking at smcquay's photos in paris... getting envious |
| 17:32.05 | RyanE | of the location, or the photos? :) |
| 17:33.53 | Tod-Work | of the camera |
| 17:34.13 | youtah | LOL |
| 17:34.20 | youtah | I am looking at photos of smcquay while I am in Paris |
| 17:34.30 | youtah | j/k |
| 17:38.45 | Migs | aw man I missed a great discussion |
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| 17:46.01 | youtah | Wanna see the gourdest photo I've ever taken in my whole entire life? https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpf1/t31.0-8/10668938_10205231593053607_2646275472054089965_o.jpg |
| 17:46.11 | Tod-Work | Migs, wherein we learned that framing content IS content? =cP |
| 17:46.16 | Migs | that is quite gourdy, youtah |
| 17:46.50 | Migs | so ascension, what do you do in the TECH world? |
| 17:47.17 | Tod-Work | youtah, gourds are gross, just sayin' |
| 17:48.54 | youtah | Tod-Work, in regards to eating, I would pretty much agree. But to photograph and look at, they're kind of fun. |
| 17:50.05 | youtah | http://www.codereddit.com/ |
| 17:55.36 | Tod-Work | youtah, can it be something other than PHP? =c( |
| 18:12.39 | Migs | are there any good tools for building specification documentation, like for a new programming language? |
| 18:12.48 | Migs | having a hard time finding anything decent |
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| 18:17.40 | Tod-Work | Migs, LaTeX? =cP |
| 18:59.24 | harleypig | youtah: have you ever seen a gourdian knot? |
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| 19:32.50 | youtah | I have not harleypig |
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| 19:43.13 | harleypig | Neither have i |
| 19:43.53 | Migs | just got a nice batch of Google Cardboards come in that I found for $3 each |
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| 20:24.23 | programmerq | Migs: oh yeah, I need to do that too |
| 20:24.45 | programmerq | or I could buy one off you for $5 |
| 20:24.47 | programmerq | shrugs |
| 20:39.00 | youtah | hey harleypig I just stumbled across this on Facebook http://i.imgur.com/M9gzUtM.png |
| 20:39.08 | youtah | Took a screen shot and colored out their names |
| 20:47.29 | youtah | So Jayce just sent me this https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/augustgermar/anonabox-a-tor-hardware-router |
| 20:47.39 | youtah | nothing says "anonymous" like having your name put on the website! |
| 20:48.11 | Migs | http://i.imgur.com/lH0VFzj.gifv |
| 20:48.24 | Migs | http://www.tinydeal.com/diy-google-cardboard-vr-3d-glasses-for-iphone-samsung-cellphone-p-135220.html |
| 20:48.26 | Migs | there you go |
| 20:48.43 | youtah | ROFL Migs |
| 20:54.24 | jlp_znc | what!? anonabox is being made in Chico? |
| 20:54.35 | jlp_znc | my son lives in Chico (at least, until November 18th) |
| 20:55.50 | jlp_znc | according to my daughter-in-law, Chico is the meth capitol of northern California. |
| 20:56.09 | Jayce | jlp_znc: at least he's not living in Chino, with an expected release date |
| 20:57.36 | joshh | more than truckee? |
| 20:57.37 | jlp_znc | starting November 18th, he will be living in San Antonia (at Lackland AFB) for 2.5 months or so |
| 20:57.47 | joshh | too bad charming isn't real |
| 20:59.52 | jlp_znc | then I think to Sheppard AFB for 5-8 months |
| 20:59.59 | jlp_znc | (also in Texas) |
| 21:00.14 | jlp_znc | and who knows where after that, but definitely not back to Chico. :-) |
| 21:02.03 | pashdown | am i the only person who thinks anonybox is stupid? |
| 21:03.47 | jlp_znc | I think they should have set up their kickstarter around building thousands of them and air dropping them into North Korea and China |
| 21:04.27 | pashdown | tor obfuscates your ip address, it doesn't help you disable javascript and cookie properly |
| 21:04.32 | ascension | Migs: I am not techie |
| 21:05.48 | eightyeight | yeah. anonabox has been on bitmessage, and it's getting well reviewed |
| 21:06.45 | jlp_znc | pashdown: I think they need some kind of anonymizing proxy, not just tor |
| 21:06.53 | eightyeight | the anonabox website does not support ssl |
| 21:07.14 | eightyeight | it's not on tor with a .onion address, or on 12p with a .12p address |
| 21:07.30 | eightyeight | the website uses google analytics, addthis, and scorecard research tracking software |
| 21:08.09 | magmu | Lets make something thats all about not letting people get your data "website gives all the informatoin to everyone" |
| 21:08.10 | jlp_znc | they're a front for the NSA! the anonabox has spyware in it! rant rant! |
| 21:08.12 | magmu | seems legit :P |
| 21:08.28 | eightyeight | magmu: yeah. basically. |
| 21:08.39 | magmu | I still like the idea of a device like this...feel like it needs more though |
| 21:09.05 | eightyeight | it's cool that it's plug and play. but so is foxyproxy |
| 21:09.07 | eightyeight | so, meh |
| 21:09.23 | ascension | I want to become more techie |
| 21:09.30 | ascension | Who wants to be my unix coach? |
| 21:09.39 | jlp_znc | foxyproxy may be plug and play for you, eightyeight, but not for your grandpa |
| 21:09.40 | eightyeight | s/12p/i2p/ |
| 21:09.55 | eightyeight | jlp_znc: my grandpa also wouldn't know why 'anonabox' is important |
| 21:10.04 | jlp_znc | exactly! |
| 21:10.11 | eightyeight | if my grandpa actually cares about his privacy, he'll call |
| 21:10.15 | magmu | Ill be honest I thought of getting it for the ease of being able to use my NHL app during the season and avoiding black outs compared to having to watch it in the browser... |
| 21:10.20 | magmu | but not for 50 bucks :P |
| 21:10.20 | jlp_znc | that's why you drop it into his network without his knowing about it |
| 21:10.45 | eightyeight | and then he calls wondering why it takes 5 hours to download the grandkids images off of shutterfly |
| 21:10.48 | jlp_znc | then all he knows is that his internets have gotten very slow... |
| 21:10.58 | magmu | And then you just blame comcast |
| 21:10.58 | jlp_znc | I see we are on the same page |
| 21:11.09 | eightyeight | so, yeah. foxyproxy. |
| 21:11.37 | joshh | jlp_znc provides tech support to his grandkids, rather than the other way around |
| 21:11.39 | jlp_znc | there was some anonymizing live cd a while back... I don't remember what it was called. |
| 21:11.57 | jlp_znc | has no grandkids, yet, sadly (other than the four-footed kind) |
| 21:12.15 | joshh | when you do, they won't need to help you with your computer |
| 21:12.20 | jlp_znc | true |
| 21:12.26 | jlp_znc | they can help my wife |
| 21:12.37 | jlp_znc | she's rather... non-technical :-) |
| 21:12.57 | jlp_znc | speaking of not having grandkids, what's up with that, dremex? |
| 21:13.16 | jlp_znc | have you upped your having kids date until you guys are 35 yet? |
| 21:13.28 | fungus | jlp_znc, it was called Tails |
| 21:13.40 | fungus | https://tails.boum.org/ |
| 21:13.40 | dremex | Probably. I'm not nearly responsible enough to have children |
| 21:14.12 | joshh | dremex: i wasn't either, until i had one, then you become responsible by necessity |
| 21:14.24 | dremex | Also fairly accustomed to my current lifestyle |
| 21:14.30 | fungus | responsibility is overrated |
| 21:15.17 | jlp_znc | dremex: you need to watch the first five minutes of idiocracy again |
| 21:15.19 | youtah | lol dremex |
| 21:15.25 | youtah | ^^^^ |
| 21:15.26 | dremex | Ha |
| 21:15.28 | youtah | ROFL jlp_znc |
| 21:15.29 | pashdown | go away! 'baitin' |
| 21:15.46 | youtah | You don't want cleatus to take over dremex |
| 21:16.07 | youtah | dremex, and there is no such thing as being ready for kids |
| 21:16.08 | jlp_znc | thanks, fungus, that might have been it |
| 21:16.09 | youtah | just so you know |
| 21:16.12 | eightyeight | need moar exit nodes |
| 21:16.26 | youtah | especially for guys |
| 21:16.33 | jlp_znc | whooo! |
| 21:16.38 | jlp_znc | (Cletus Jr.) |
| 21:18.04 | youtah | dremex, how long have you had your BRZ? |
| 21:18.15 | youtah | 1.5 years? |
| 21:18.24 | dremex | About 8 months I think? We're looking to trade it in for a WRX soon... |
| 21:18.26 | youtah | drools over the BRZ |
| 21:18.31 | youtah | Oh man |
| 21:18.40 | youtah | then you can fit a child seat in the back! |
| 21:18.43 | dremex | It's a fun summer car, but total trash in the summer |
| 21:18.50 | dremex | lol, yeah, or climbing gear ;) |
| 21:18.53 | jlp_znc | ? |
| 21:18.54 | joshh | wasn't tails found to be full of holes post-snowden? |
| 21:18.56 | dremex | *trash in the winter |
| 21:19.36 | jlp_znc | I don't think it was tails after looking at it... I remember it having some kind of anonymizing proxy built in. |
| 21:19.38 | dremex | Maybe kids after TaskEasy (if I walk away with some cash) |
| 21:19.55 | youtah | lol, I didn't recognize the typo. I totally read it as Winter |
| 21:20.43 | jlp_znc | btw, dremex, have you talked to your sister lately? do you remember the significance of this Friday? |
| 21:21.40 | jlp_znc | moseys to the kitchen to refill his drink and get some snacks after suitably laying on the guilt |
| 21:22.15 | youtah | LOL |
| 21:22.51 | dremex | Fairly confident there's nothing going on this Friday |
| 21:23.02 | dremex | Besides driving down to Moab for the weekend |
| 21:23.47 | youtah | birthdays? reunions? graduations? um.... uh.... anniversaries? |
| 21:23.54 | jlp_znc | correct, there is nothing going on this Friday. but do you remember what *was* going to be going on this Friday? |
| 21:24.03 | asoc | dremex: that could go in line as famous last words |
| 21:25.08 | jlp_znc | don't worry about it, dremex. your younger brother and sister have totally given up on you, anyway. |
| 21:28.00 | jlp_znc | so, ascension, what do you want to know about Unix? |
| 21:28.15 | dremex | oooh k... |
| 21:30.09 | magmu | I feel like that escalated quickly |
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| 22:28.23 | jlp_znc | sorry, folks, for that little display. dremex's family is a little unhappy with him at the moment, nothing the rest of you need to worry about. carry on. |
| 22:28.50 | joshh | what did you do dremex |
| 22:28.52 | joshh | i must know |
| 22:29.06 | joshh | jlp_znc's attempt to make us lose interest has had the opposite effect |
| 22:32.00 | Tod-Work | dremex, did you forget about Canadian Thanksgiving again? |
| 22:32.41 | jlp_znc | yeah. that was it, Tod-Work |
| 22:35.31 | joshh | ah |
| 22:35.39 | joshh | that explains it |
| 22:35.50 | joshh | stops caring |
| 22:55.36 | ascension | jlp_znc: eerything |
| 22:55.36 | ascension | And I know nothing |
| 23:10.55 | jlp_znc | so, do you want to know Unix? or Linux? |
| 23:11.48 | joshh | he wants to know how linux is used to store all the blood oath data |
| 23:12.28 | jlp_znc | she |
| 23:12.39 | joshh | on irc? |
| 23:12.55 | joshh | falls out of chair |
| 23:12.58 | jlp_znc | I believe so |
| 23:13.10 | jlp_znc | did you not know tuxgirl? |
| 23:13.20 | joshh | i do remember her |
| 23:13.27 | jlp_znc | so they are out there, yes |
| 23:13.45 | joshh | they exist, just rare |
| 23:14.00 | jlp_znc | I used to know another woman on irc... her nick was "trillian" |
| 23:14.50 | jlp_znc | so that's at least two that I have first hand knowledge of being female, and one suspected based on earlier comments (although ascension could be gay, I suppose) |
| 23:15.07 | joshh | i actually know or know of several females on irc, but in other channels |
| 23:15.22 | jlp_znc | oh, yes, there is Katharine on #pebble |
| 23:15.24 | joshh | and people in another channel were just talking about how freenode has ##feminist-theory |
| 23:15.36 | jlp_znc | you can be male and be a feminist, you know |
| 23:15.46 | jlp_znc | blows joshh's mind again |
| 23:16.38 | joshh | you can, but i wouldn't advise it |
| 23:18.26 | jlp_znc | ahh, quickeys are finally starting to ship out |
| 23:18.57 | jlp_znc | mine will probably show up right when my next trip to SLC starts (wednesday night) |
| 23:19.08 | jlp_znc | https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/quickey-multi-tool-the-clever-key-that-opens-everything-but-doors |
| 23:42.39 | joshh | Tod-Work: speak of the devil.. as of today, one of our office kegs has uinta hoodoo kolsch |
| 23:43.32 | jlp_znc | you have kegs? we just have bottled beer in all the little fridges scattered throughout the campus. |
| 23:45.02 | joshh | ya, here and at my last job (just started a new one last week) |
| 23:45.15 | joshh | most offices i've visited for random events do as well |
| 23:47.05 | joshh | here the taps get rotated like every 2 days though, where it was every 3 months there |
| 23:49.54 | jlp_znc | so you're not at lookout any more? |
| 23:50.07 | joshh | no, uber now |
| 23:50.17 | jlp_znc | cool. what do you think of uber? |
| 23:50.40 | jlp_znc | and if you ever want to work at linkedin, let me know, I will "'in'-troduce you" |
| 23:50.51 | joshh | i like it a lot so far as a workplace, and it's a great service |
| 23:50.54 | jlp_znc | (we do that a lot around here) |
| 23:51.08 | jlp_znc | we do have a SF office |
| 23:51.18 | jlp_znc | s/ a / an / |
| 23:51.22 | joshh | i do wish they were a little more ok with some regulation and insurance costs and whatnot, but i think they will get there eventually |
| 23:51.37 | jlp_znc | so what's uber's take on zipcars? |
| 23:51.41 | joshh | they are ran and funded by pretty hardcore libertarians |
| 23:52.27 | joshh | zipcars are fine, i don't use them myself but all the childless, carless young people i work with use them fairly often |
| 23:52.41 | jlp_znc | I just think they are too expensive |
| 23:52.58 | joshh | i don't even know the cost, and i've always had cars |
| 23:53.19 | jlp_znc | zipcars are around 12-20/hour, but you have to return them to the same place you picked them up |
| 23:53.30 | jlp_znc | I wish they were more like the bay area bike share bikes |
| 23:53.38 | jlp_znc | but there would need to be a lot more of them, I suppose |
| 23:53.54 | joshh | i've ridden in them for datacenter trips and stuff, but ubers more often |
| 23:54.24 | jlp_znc | they are about $100/day if you rent them for the whole day. I'd rather go to the airport and rent a car from avis or enterprise |
| 23:54.55 | jlp_znc | I can rent a compact for $40/day |
| 23:55.04 | jlp_znc | (of course, I have to go to the airport to get it) |
| 23:55.07 | joshh | i'd rather just have my own car, regardless of what people think about this being a transit friendly area heh |
| 23:55.32 | jlp_znc | I don't have a car out here. linkedin pays for a caltrain pass and I live within walking distance of the san jose station |
| 23:55.54 | joshh | what about grocery/restaurant/etc runs though |
| 23:56.09 | jlp_znc | I have a little basket with wheels that I drag to the safeway downtown |
| 23:56.12 | joshh | i don't use my car to get to work, but my wife uses it for kid stuff during the day |
| 23:56.30 | joshh | and we take it places on the weekend or evenings |
| 23:56.53 | jlp_znc | I just hate parking :-) |
| 23:57.12 | joshh | heh, i learned to be an extremely patient driver very quickly here |
| 23:57.32 | joshh | if you ever speed up, get in a hurry, etc, you will have to slam on your brakes to not kill someone who just decided to jaywalk in front of you |
| 23:58.13 | joshh | san jose is different of course, but it's never hard to park there |
| 23:58.22 | joshh | at least compared to here |
| 23:58.35 | joshh | san jose actually seems to me like a bigger version of SLC |
