| 00:22.58 | pdayton | Does anyone know if ubuntu, or anyone else has released a bash update for 11.04 |
| 00:38.26 | jlp_znc | my linode is on 10.04.4 LTS and it got a bash update |
| 00:38.39 | jlp_znc | dunno about the non-LTS 11.04, though |
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| 02:01.54 | fugue88 | pdayton: 11.04 is way beyond its support period. |
| 02:02.40 | fugue88 | http://www.ubuntu.com/server#a-release-schedule-you-can-depend-on |
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| 03:07.21 | pdayton | Yes, 11.04 is definitely beyond its support period. They joys of inheriting non supported systems. |
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| 03:22.38 | jxqz | haha |
| 03:33.07 | Magmu | https://shellshocker.net/#fix you will need to compile from source or use the script they are hosting there. |
| 03:33.36 | Magmu | the commands the scripts call are also posted right below it. |
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| 13:21.21 | eightyeight | jlp_znc: all current non-lts releases have stopped getting updates |
| 13:21.38 | eightyeight | 11.04 ended support may 2013 |
| 13:21.53 | eightyeight | 13.10, not even a year old, ended support july 2014 |
| 13:24.39 | eightyeight | one of reasons i don't care much for frozen releases |
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| 15:50.07 | bmurdock | so, I've been in a conference for the last three days and I'm just learning about shellshocked |
| 15:50.24 | bmurdock | is it time to switch back to ksh? |
| 15:50.59 | programmerq | bmurdock: nah, just time to upgrade bash. |
| 15:51.42 | unum | bmurdock: remember it's not about what you use, but what the default is |
| 15:51.57 | unum | so just switching your own account won't make you any safer |
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| 15:56.57 | bmurdock | Right, so you know how ubuntu uses a symlink to make /bin/sh dash, I was thinking of replacing bash with ksh like that and seeing what happens :-) |
| 15:58.27 | eightyeight | /bin/bash would have to be completely removed from the system, if you didn't want to upgrade it |
| 15:59.06 | eightyeight | https://securityblog.redhat.com/2014/09/24/bash-specially-crafted-environment-variables-code-injection-attack/ |
| 16:02.05 | bmurdock | Right. I'm mostly joking. A long time ago I wrote a multi thousand line shell program that had to work with both bash and ksh (for the hp-ux users). I wasn't very familiar with ksh when I started but became impressed with it the more I learned. |
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| 16:03.06 | bmurdock | I suppose nowdays its more likely that someone would try and replace bash with zsh |
| 16:03.27 | eightyeight | i switched to zsh almost a decade ago. it's a fantastic shell |
| 16:03.57 | bmurdock | can it run bash scripts? |
| 16:04.19 | bmurdock | I mean, are there non-posix things in bash that zsh can or can't handle? |
| 16:04.20 | eightyeight | zsh is backwards compatible with the bourne shell |
| 16:04.34 | eightyeight | there are bash-isms that zsh won't interpret |
| 16:04.46 | bmurdock | right. same with ksh |
| 16:05.01 | eightyeight | if the bash script is posix compliant, zsh can run it unmodified |
| 16:05.50 | bmurdock | Yeah, sticking with posix is how I made my big program run with bash and ksh. It wasn't a big deal to do that either. |
| 16:05.53 | bmurdock | oh, late for a meeting |
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| 17:01.20 | youtah | Howdy bmurdock |
| 17:01.29 | youtah | Late for a meeting eh? |
| 17:01.40 | youtah | Tell them making BASH jokes can wait |
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| 17:14.21 | youtah | I need to add some rifling into the barrel of my nerf gun |
| 17:17.47 | jsmith | youtah: Wait, you only have *one*? |
| 17:17.56 | jsmith | can't believe it |
| 17:18.32 | youtah | only one good nerf gun |
| 17:18.35 | youtah | I have several |
| 17:18.39 | youtah | btw, the shot gun sucks |
| 17:19.13 | youtah | this one http://1.bp.blogspot.com/__UJTmf2vTzs/SrA3GUxNNZI/AAAAAAAAABE/u9JTJuuLZ_c/s400/AIR+BLASTERS.jpg |
| 17:19.41 | jsmith | Never tried that one |
| 17:21.35 | jsmith | youtah: I've been saving this animated gif just for you: http://i.imgur.com/9mY3frU.gif |
| 17:23.11 | youtah | lol |
| 17:23.18 | youtah | I totally laughed at the ned |
| 17:23.19 | youtah | end |
| 17:23.34 | jsmith | I figured you would... |
| 17:23.49 | jsmith | What I lack in quantity of gifs I more than make up for in quality |
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| 18:40.47 | jlp_znc | did it hit something on the side of the road? I've seen those "trailers" before and always wondered how they make sure it will track correctly. |
| 18:43.41 | jlp_znc | FYI, I have 10 codes for downloading Synergy. If anyone wants one PM me. |
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| 19:02.35 | Tod-Work | jlp_znc, I take it you don't mean the open-source project for sharing keyboard/mouse, and you don't mean the half-life mod. What are you talking about? |
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| 19:07.07 | Tod-Work | oh dear, the synergy input sharing project went pay-to-download? wow |
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| 19:25.05 | jlp_znc | it's still free... if you get it from somewhere else you don't have to pay them. |
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| 19:26.36 | jlp_znc | but if you want to download it from the synergy site then they want a $5 kick back. I guess not enough people were donating for them to stay in business. |
| 19:27.07 | jlp_znc | the code gets you lifetime access without paying. |
| 19:27.39 | jlp_znc | (I've donated $15 to the project over the years because I really like the software) |
| 19:32.40 | youtah | Random fact: I have 115 Rupees on my desk |
| 19:35.25 | Tod-Work | jlp_znc, I have stints where it's useful and then it goes back to being unused. I think I donated in 2005, but that might have been under work email at the time. Meh. When it's useful again, I'll donate again. |
| 19:37.20 | youtah | I wish this were true http://tyronetribulations.com/2014/09/25/omaghs-shawshank-husband-dug-tunnel-from-bedroom-to-pub-over-15-years/ |
| 19:37.47 | Q_Continuum | jlp_znc: wow, thats a new change |
| 19:38.35 | youtah | jlp_znc, yeah if you look closely, he doesn't clear, or swing wide enough, and the front right tire on the back end hits the concrete barrier |
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| 19:57.18 | youtah | http://bgr.com/2014/09/25/iphone-6-plus-bend-test-video/ |
| 20:06.06 | programmerq | youtah: I happen to have 810 rupees on my desk. |
| 20:07.06 | Tod-Work | In Zelda: Wind Waker HD I think I have about 400 rupees in my wallet. |
| 20:20.19 | youtah | Are they real rupees? |
| 20:20.23 | youtah | or tangible I mean? |
| 20:25.51 | programmerq | yeas |
| 20:26.03 | youtah | sweet |
| 20:26.22 | youtah | Mine are all Orange, Green and metal |
| 20:27.10 | programmerq | http://imgur.com/7ixZWO5 |
| 20:27.21 | programmerq | I don't know where my coins went. |
| 20:27.40 | programmerq | people were talking about indian rupees in my company chat yesterday, and I've been cleaning and found my leftover rupees recently |
| 20:27.44 | programmerq | so I took a picture last night. |
| 20:27.51 | programmerq | and shared it with them |
| 20:30.33 | youtah | uploading |
| 20:31.14 | youtah | http://i.imgur.com/ATAMwv0.jpg |
| 20:31.49 | youtah | "There are many like it, but this one is mine" |
| 20:32.30 | programmerq | youtah: I'm guessing you have been to india? when did you go? |
| 20:32.31 | RyanE | I have 6 chinese yuan here at my desk. |
| 20:32.50 | RyanE | and some Korean coins |
| 20:33.28 | RyanE | Ghandi is better looking than Mao. |
| 20:33.29 | RyanE | :) |
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| 20:37.33 | youtah | programmerq, I haven't. My previous interns were from India, and their internship was going back. |
| 20:38.08 | RyanE | youtah: don't go. I've been once, and that was more than enough for me. |
| 20:38.39 | youtah | I'd go to the beach in the south |
| 20:38.42 | youtah | and that's abou tit |
| 20:38.43 | youtah | about it |
| 20:38.56 | RyanE | whatever you do, skip Bangalore. :) |
| 20:41.45 | programmerq | I've been to bangalore and new delhi |
| 20:42.56 | programmerq | I would go back |
| 20:44.12 | youtah | My gut can hardly stand Taco Bell.... |
| 20:44.32 | bmurdock | youtah, they gave you rupees? how come I didn't get a bribe from them? |
| 20:45.01 | programmerq | youtah: bangalore had properly spicey food. new delhi did not. |
| 20:45.07 | programmerq | they thought they did, but they didn't. |
| 20:45.35 | youtah | bmurdock, yeah, it was when we called you, but you didn't answer the phone, and come get Pizza with us and tvc123 |
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| 21:22.17 | harleypig | Is there a service that will allow me to easily setup a virtual machine on a temporary basis as many times as I need to? |
| 21:22.44 | harleypig | s/service/free service/ |
| 21:23.02 | tristanrhodes_ | harleypig, suse studio? |
| 21:23.17 | harleypig | I need to be able to put arbitrary dists on it. |
| 21:23.44 | tristanrhodes_ | you can create (or clone) and then "test drive" it. oh, it won't do other distros. |
| 21:24.22 | harleypig | I'm supposed to be developing something to create a virtual machine, but the hardware I'm allowed to use keeps crashing. |
| 21:24.26 | tristanrhodes_ | harleypig, virtualbox? (I assume you don't mean running locally) |
| 21:24.40 | harleypig | Hell, if it's cheap and easy enough I'll pay for it myself. |
| 21:24.56 | harleypig | yeah, it needs to be "out there" |
| 21:25.10 | harleypig | I was looking at aws, but it confuses the heck out of me. |
| 21:26.28 | harleypig | I need to be able to instantiate a vm, install a dist from a custom iso I make, then logon and do some tests, debugging, development, etc, then tear it down and do it again. As often as need be. |
| 21:27.41 | harleypig | I need to see the console during the iso installation too. |
| 21:29.10 | tristanrhodes_ | harleypig, if you were happy using OpenSuse, SuseStudio would most of what you want for free |
| 21:29.45 | tristanrhodes_ | you can customize it, it automatically creates bootable ISO, VM images, etc |
| 21:29.47 | youtah | First read this: http://imgur.com/gallery/giExlcJ and then read this: http://www.fox5vegas.com/story/26635005/man-shot |
| 21:29.50 | harleypig | :] Most of our servers are CentOS ... dev needs to happen on that distro (with some exceptions). |
| 21:32.55 | youtah | I'm a CentOS surviver harleypig |
| 21:33.29 | youtah | has no idea what that really means, just felt like it needed to be said |
| 21:33.34 | youtah | It |
| 21:33.43 | youtah | It's also late in the afternoon on a Friday |
| 21:34.49 | harleypig | heh |
| 21:34.56 | harleypig | you sound a little ... tipsy... |
| 21:35.44 | tristanrhodes_ | harleypig, huh, I just found this https://build.opensuse.org/ |
| 21:36.43 | harleypig | That doesn't look like it let's me set up a vm ... |
| 21:41.01 | tristanrhodes_ | I think you are right, that is for creating packages for distros |
| 21:50.36 | harleypig | Ok, I got ec2 figured out. Unfortunately, I can't do what I want there either. |
| 21:53.26 | bmurdock | youtah, I missed rupees *and* pizza!? How did this happen? |
| 21:54.00 | youtah | lol |
| 21:54.04 | youtah | how did it happen!??!?!?! |
| 21:54.12 | bmurdock | :-) |
| 21:57.41 | bmurdock | My Ubuntu machines are all un-shellshocked. Apparently Apple hasn't released a patch for bash yet? That's awesome. |
| 22:05.48 | tvc123 | bmurdock: and the pizza was huge |
| 22:06.13 | T4rku5 | bmurdock, they've said they won't confirm they're working on one or not, they won't say what they're doing about it, etc |
| 22:14.36 | bmurdock | sounds like typical Apple |
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| 22:27.42 | programmerq | harleypig: have you looked into vagrant? you define how you want the vm to look with a Vagrantfile, and it can fire that VM up on any number of providers (including virtualbox, aws, digitalocean, etc) |
| 22:28.28 | harleypig | yeah. actually, one of o ur other products is using that. I have a little more experience with salt. But that's not my problem. |
| 22:28.58 | harleypig | The environment I'm required to use to create the vms keeps crashing. |
| 22:32.06 | programmerq | vagrant can call salt |
| 22:32.28 | programmerq | most of my chef cookbook development happens using vagrant. |
| 22:35.10 | harleypig | :] Still doesn't solve my problem. |
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