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| 15:10.52 | Jayce | http://map.ipviking.com/ pretty cool visualizer |
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| 15:14.00 | programmerq | yes indeed |
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| 15:59.23 | youtah | fugue88, I ended up not going to Bear Lake, because I had a paying gig at Spanish Fork at 10am Saturday that I needed to be to. |
| 15:59.58 | jsmith | youtah: They pay you to dress up as a clown? |
| 16:00.08 | jsmith | youtah: How many red noses do you go through a year? |
| 16:00.26 | youtah | I just send Jayce to those ones |
| 16:00.32 | youtah | Jayce, |
| 16:00.42 | jsmith | Speaking of him.... |
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| 16:09.58 | davido_ | Looking for a friday/saturday camping idea where my wife won't be out of "pager" range. Any thoughts? (I'm in Sandy) |
| 16:11.35 | Oberon4278 | It's too bad you can't bring your own portable cell tower with a directional antenna and point it at something down in the valley. |
| 16:12.00 | davido_ | lol. She just has to be available for emergency pages at primary children's this weekend. |
| 16:13.20 | Oberon4278 | But... doesn't that mean she has to rush to the hospital if she gets paged? |
| 16:13.37 | davido_ | No, it's just to answer questions, make judgement calls. |
| 16:13.48 | Oberon4278 | oh ok |
| 16:15.08 | davido_ | We're kinda tired of spruces (once per season is enough), and Tanner's Flat doesn't have coverage (and we've already been there this year anyway).... |
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| 16:25.14 | youtah | Somewhere up by park city? |
| 16:28.35 | jsmith | davido_: Santaquin canyon? |
| 16:28.41 | jsmith | davido_: Kamas? |
| 16:28.55 | jsmith | davido_: Morgan/Moutain Green? |
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| 17:04.47 | youtah | Kamas there is no cell phone reception once you go up the canyon |
| 17:05.38 | youtah | although, I was able to reach the repeater on Scotts Hill (Brighton Ski Resort) from Trial Lake in the Uintas via a hand held HT (5W) with my Yagi antenna quite easily. |
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| 17:54.22 | jlp_znc | http://www.savetheinternet.com/sti-home <- last day for FCC public comments... won't anyone think of the children? I mean the fat bald men living in their parent's basements? |
| 17:56.33 | jlp_znc | shouts "save the children!" in a shrill voice |
| 17:57.23 | jlp_znc | youtah: what yagi do you have? did you buy one specifically for mountain hiking or did you make one yourself? |
| 17:57.44 | youtah | I bought one |
| 17:57.56 | youtah | http://www.arrowantennas.com/arrowii/146-3ii.html |
| 17:58.29 | jlp_znc | nice |
| 17:59.17 | jlp_znc | but $70 |
| 17:59.29 | jlp_znc | probably could have made one cheaper |
| 18:00.20 | jlp_znc | you should talk to your friend that is making the j-poles about doing a yagi or two (I've been thinking about trying some satellite operations and a yagi would help there) |
| 18:52.08 | shalkie | davido_: I guess it depends on what you mean by "pager". I assume you mean cellular services since my old pager was sat based. T-Mo seems to have some coverage at Mantua, Bear Lake and Pineview. |
| 18:53.23 | shalkie | I would be happy to validate Mantua or the Bear River Refuge this evening or tomorrow for you, but that would tmo still. |
| 18:53.34 | shalkie | s/tmo/be tmo/ |
| 18:59.46 | shalkie | Also, Antelope Island? They have some group sites. |
| 19:01.29 | programmerq | antelope island is fun. the cell signal was fairly weak. I don't remember which provider(s) I had when I went tough. |
| 19:04.20 | youtah | just got back from lunch jlp_znc |
| 19:04.31 | youtah | Yeah, it's $70, but it comes pre-tuned, etc. |
| 19:04.40 | youtah | and the connector is the part that I don't know how to do |
| 19:04.50 | youtah | I could measure, and cut my own aluminum arrows all day |
| 19:07.09 | eightyeight | yeah. it's one thing to be a "ham's ham", and build everything |
| 19:07.15 | eightyeight | it's another to just get stuff done |
| 19:07.31 | eightyeight | i respect building antennas, feedline, receivers, transmitters, etc |
| 19:07.48 | eightyeight | but the convenience of getting something pre-built has its perks |
| 19:10.29 | eightyeight | with my arrow j-pole, and pre-terminated coax, my system works _substantially_ better than i could ever get with my homemade copper cactus and personally terminated coax |
| 19:10.37 | youtah | there's this one.... http://www.arrowantennas.com/arrowii/146-437.html |
| 19:11.06 | youtah | yeah eightyeight I bought one of Carl's (we7omg's) j-poles, pre-tuned, etc for $15... FANTASTIC |
| 19:11.19 | youtah | I can hit the 62 and the 76 repeaters perfectly fine |
| 19:11.27 | youtah | I am running RG8 |
| 19:11.38 | eightyeight | i got lmr-400 for my coax |
| 19:11.44 | eightyeight | 50' |
| 19:11.57 | youtah | Whoa. |
| 19:12.01 | youtah | That stuff is expensive |
| 19:12.07 | eightyeight | got it for $75 shipped |
| 19:12.21 | eightyeight | pre-terminated with so-239 |
| 19:12.26 | youtah | I used a 6' segment someone had left over. |
| 19:12.43 | youtah | I ended up terminating my own ends, just because I was going through a very narrow hole in the wall that I had drilled |
| 19:13.39 | eightyeight | my transceiver runs cooler, and my SNR is very high. |
| 19:13.55 | eightyeight | i pick up fainter signals, and can transmit further with less wattage |
| 19:13.58 | youtah | I can imagine. Because the impedance is 0 with LMR-400 right? |
| 19:14.04 | eightyeight | in fact, tonight i'm going to try and hit wendover. :) |
| 19:14.16 | youtah | I think my RG8 is 50ohm |
| 19:14.23 | eightyeight | iirc, it's .7 db loss over 100' |
| 19:14.42 | eightyeight | compared to rg-58 which is something like 2.8-3 |
| 19:14.59 | youtah | yeah, it's 75ogm |
| 19:15.02 | youtah | ohm |
| 19:15.11 | youtah | impedance |
| 19:15.24 | eightyeight | hmm. i have 50 ohm |
| 19:15.45 | eightyeight | looks up his order |
| 19:15.50 | youtah | You wouldn't happen to have, say, an 8' section of LMR-400 scrap by any chance, would you? ;) |
| 19:15.55 | eightyeight | nay |
| 19:15.59 | youtah | I can't remember now. Perhaps I am off |
| 19:16.09 | youtah | is second guessing |
| 19:16.14 | eightyeight | http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005DVAA9W/ |
| 19:16.22 | youtah | OH |
| 19:16.25 | jnbek | you say that as if that's sometime new youtah |
| 19:16.27 | jnbek | runsa |
| 19:16.42 | youtah | lol jnbek |
| 19:16.49 | jnbek | :D |
| 19:16.58 | youtah | from what I heard jnbek you love Justin Bieber and PHP |
| 19:17.09 | youtah | and your Google Search history is there to prove it :) |
| 19:17.14 | jnbek | you heard wrong |
| 19:17.15 | jnbek | :-P |
| 19:17.27 | eightyeight | http://www.w4rp.com/ref/coax.html |
| 19:17.32 | eightyeight | attenuation per 100' |
| 19:17.52 | jnbek | brb |
| 19:17.58 | youtah | lol |
| 19:18.24 | youtah | LMR is 50ohm too it looks like. |
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| 19:18.42 | youtah | jnbek, yeah Jayce was telling me stories |
| 19:18.48 | eightyeight | yeah. i made sure to get 50 ohm when i made the order |
| 19:18.53 | jnbek | youtah: I fig'd as much |
| 19:19.01 | jnbek | soon as you said 'PHP' |
| 19:19.06 | jnbek | I knew the culprit |
| 19:19.07 | jnbek | :) |
| 19:19.17 | youtah | lol |
| 19:19.19 | jnbek | sets fire to Jayce |
| 19:20.05 | youtah | So jnbek you liked the story of my 8yo son doing a manufacture reset to my dad's phone? |
| 19:20.14 | jnbek | aye |
| 19:20.20 | jnbek | i mean, it'd suck |
| 19:20.20 | jnbek | but |
| 19:20.30 | jnbek | you gotta be proud of a child who can do that |
| 19:20.31 | jnbek | :) |
| 19:20.36 | youtah | lol, oh man... my dad was so mad |
| 19:20.56 | youtah | Luckily**** he took the advice I gave, but never follow. |
| 19:21.06 | youtah | He had paid for Carbonite and had his data backed up!!! |
| 19:21.12 | jnbek | right on |
| 19:21.35 | youtah | needs to do something about that |
| 19:21.51 | jnbek | I use Dropbox for most of my critical crap, and for my apps, I use appbrain |
| 19:22.05 | jnbek | so a factory wipe/new phone isn't usually too painful for me |
| 19:22.22 | jnbek | just the 8 weeks of entering the same password over and over, lol |
| 19:22.50 | youtah | I need to do something about that with my primary storage box at home |
| 19:22.59 | youtah | 6TB's of data (almost ALL photos) |
| 19:23.27 | Jayce | jnbek: we were having fun relating stories of "coworkers unlocked workstation" |
| 19:23.27 | jnbek | oy |
| 19:23.42 | jnbek | Jayce: hehe |
| 19:23.47 | youtah | or workstations with zero day exploits |
| 19:24.07 | jnbek | you still have to watch it over here in admin land |
| 19:24.13 | jnbek | it's not as vengeful as it used to be |
| 19:24.33 | Jayce | jnbek: I could make a few comments about that :) |
| 19:24.33 | jnbek | but, some still end up handing long passionate hugs around |
| 19:25.03 | youtah | I want a long passionate hug |
| 19:25.50 | jnbek | Roger stealth punked me the other day, I was standing not 10 feet from my workstation, I caught him in the act, but he had run a redrum oneliner on two of my 5 terminal tabs... |
| 19:26.14 | jnbek | i still have no idea how he got past me either |
| 19:26.18 | jnbek | that's the creepy part, lol |
| 19:26.30 | Jayce | jnbek: it's because you aren't wearing the knife... |
| 19:26.51 | youtah | Someone taught me a trick. When another guy gives you an uncomfortably long hug, just let out a deep sign and very low pitched moan. They'll stop hugging you. |
| 19:26.55 | jnbek | yea, I'm not allowed to anymore :-P |
| 19:26.59 | jnbek | 'officially' anyways |
| 19:27.18 | jnbek | youtah: lol |
| 19:28.00 | Jayce | jnbek: we can't 'officially' carry either :) I'm sure krupa does the same as us |
| 19:28.17 | jnbek | :D |
| 19:28.40 | youtah | how do I remove my biceps? |
| 19:29.02 | jnbek | Jayce: i think most of us over here do |
| 19:29.02 | Oberon4278 | youtah: Just obtain a "condition" that prevents you from going to the gym. |
| 19:29.21 | youtah | lol Oberon4278 |
| 19:29.36 | Oberon4278 | You probably already have several. Most of them are genetic. |
| 19:30.15 | youtah | if (self.work.with(Jayce)) |
| 19:30.19 | youtah | there's a condition |
| 19:31.08 | youtah | and yes, Jayce I just made you an object. Do you feel objectified? |
| 19:32.59 | youtah | looks in Jayce's office. He's not there. Perhaps he's at HR? Should I run? |
| 19:34.06 | jnbek | you should always be ready to run |
| 19:34.07 | jnbek | :) |
| 19:37.19 | RyanE | Run you fools! |
| 19:37.36 | Oberon4278 | is always ready to run. I have "go" bags stashed in major cities throughout the US. Each of them contains multiple passports, a minimum of $10,000 in cash, and a small arsena... oh, that's not what you meant, was it? |
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| 19:54.21 | youtah | jlp_znc Jayce and eightyeight https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XhuRCV3ZxW4 |
| 19:55.22 | eightyeight | "whiskey one good vibrations"? |
| 19:55.46 | eightyeight | loses a lot of respect for hams that don't know the standard nato alphabet |
| 19:56.04 | youtah | lol |
| 19:56.24 | youtah | yeah, I think he knows, he is just trying to be creative |
| 19:56.28 | youtah | and clever |
| 19:56.39 | eightyeight | you'd be surprised |
| 19:56.48 | youtah | kind of like how I refer to mine as Hot Spicy Nachos (HSN) to help people remember |
| 19:56.53 | eightyeight | i've been on plenty of nets, where net control just makes it up as it goes |
| 19:56.56 | eightyeight | drives me nuts |
| 19:57.36 | eightyeight | i think the ones that drive me nuts are "mexico" and "umbrella" |
| 19:57.44 | youtah | lol |
| 19:57.51 | youtah | unicorn |
| 19:57.58 | youtah | opposed to uniform |
| 19:58.07 | youtah | I like Unicorn myself personally |
| 19:58.09 | eightyeight | oh and "zebra" or "zed" |
| 19:58.17 | eightyeight | that's another one that makes me cringe |
| 19:58.18 | eightyeight | heh |
| 19:58.23 | Oberon4278 | what do you use? zulu? |
| 19:58.27 | eightyeight | "zoo-loo. say it with me. zoo-loo" |
| 19:58.36 | Oberon4278 | We bought a zoo loo. |
| 19:58.42 | youtah | an P as in pneumonia |
| 19:58.47 | youtah | or K as in Knee |
| 19:58.54 | eightyeight | i've heard knife for K |
| 19:58.55 | Oberon4278 | A heartwarming tale of family and phonetics. |
| 19:58.59 | Oberon4278 | knife? |
| 19:59.03 | Oberon4278 | it doesn't even sound like "k" |
| 19:59.10 | eightyeight | yup |
| 19:59.13 | youtah | that's the joke |
| 19:59.17 | youtah | to try and throw people off |
| 19:59.26 | youtah | and make them pause and take a step back for a second |
| 19:59.30 | Oberon4278 | yes because that is the goal of communications |
| 19:59.33 | youtah | I used to do it on the phone |
| 19:59.36 | eightyeight | you can tell when people struggle, and just come up with terms as they go |
| 19:59.46 | Oberon4278 | especially a phonetic alphabet which was designed specifically to avoid confusion |
| 20:00.00 | eightyeight | "mexico", "umbrella" and "zed" i probably hear the most |
| 20:00.01 | Oberon4278 | memorization is hard |
| 20:00.14 | eightyeight | and, it's fine. the point is non-ambiguity, so it works |
| 20:00.27 | eightyeight | but they have the other 23 characters memorized. just three more... |
| 20:00.30 | Oberon4278 | okay but "knife" is just wrong |
| 20:00.55 | youtah | well, it also depends on which phonetic alphabet you're talking about too |
| 20:01.01 | Jayce | anybody that knows me, knows that when it's not important I totally pull crap like that just to get the WTF reaction |
| 20:01.09 | eightyeight | i think i've only heard it once, and it was very cleary the ham probably only knew "alpha", "bravo", "charlie", and maybe "delta" |
| 20:01.25 | eightyeight | s/cleary/clear/ |
| 20:01.29 | youtah | NATO, Western or Hooked on Phonics |
| 20:01.57 | eightyeight | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NATO_phonetic_alphabet#History_2 |
| 20:02.15 | Jayce | hoooo-ked ON pa-hon-ics.. wOrk-Ed fur meh! |
| 20:03.13 | eightyeight | another annoyance, is when "QRM" and "QRN" and mixed up |
| 20:03.46 | youtah | I sometimes say Roger instead of Romeo when I am not paying attention |
| 20:03.46 | eightyeight | QRM is "I have or hear noise/interference" |
| 20:03.53 | youtah | it just rolls off the tongue |
| 20:04.00 | eightyeight | QRN is "the interference is pissing me off" |
| 20:04.55 | eightyeight | of course, it doesn't help that "M" and "N" sound so much alike |
| 20:05.14 | youtah | it kind of bugs me when QSO is used in relation to a "Conversation" |
| 20:05.28 | youtah | like as a replacement of the word conversation |
| 20:06.09 | eightyeight | yeah. that one doesn't bother me so much. i think QSO == "i can communicate with ..." |
| 20:06.18 | eightyeight | either directly, or via relay |
| 20:06.21 | youtah | yup |
| 20:06.37 | eightyeight | so "having a qso", while technically inaccurate, meh |
| 20:06.41 | Oberon4278 | so, out of curiosity, what's the point behind ham radio? |
| 20:06.46 | eightyeight | same thing like "heating food" |
| 20:06.47 | eightyeight | meh |
| 20:07.03 | youtah | I have started using QSY |
| 20:07.19 | eightyeight | Oberon4278: are you serious or joking? |
| 20:07.27 | eightyeight | has a horrible sarcasm detector |
| 20:08.19 | Oberon4278 | no, I'm serious |
| 20:08.22 | eightyeight | ok |
| 20:08.27 | eightyeight | there are many facets to it |
| 20:08.40 | eightyeight | for some, it's the ability to "sharpen the saw" in electrical engineering |
| 20:08.58 | eightyeight | ham radio has been innovative in many areas for radio in general, that commercial radio products now use |
| 20:09.11 | Oberon4278 | ok |
| 20:09.12 | eightyeight | for others, it's just a hobby like any other. |
| 20:09.23 | Oberon4278 | ah damnit |
| 20:09.27 | eightyeight | and for even others, it's the ability to practice carrying out emergency communications |
| 20:09.30 | Oberon4278 | speaking of EE, I forgot my breadboard today |
| 20:09.32 | RyanE | ok. Damn you! |
| 20:09.33 | Oberon4278 | oh well, tomorrow |
| 20:09.41 | RyanE | damned. |
| 20:09.45 | RyanE | anything else? |
| 20:09.54 | Oberon4278 | the emergency communications part appeals to me |
| 20:10.01 | eightyeight | i'm not an electrical engineer, although i appreciate a lot of its aspects, and enjoy learning them |
| 20:10.09 | youtah | I love it, because I am not being Dependant upon any other companies or entities infrastructure. No phone lines, no internet, etc. I with a radio, solar panel and battery, I can operate entirely off the grid, with someone far away. |
| 20:10.19 | Oberon4278 | right |
| 20:10.25 | Oberon4278 | that, too |
| 20:10.26 | eightyeight | yeah |
| 20:10.37 | eightyeight | it completely lacks technical infrastructure |
| 20:10.40 | eightyeight | totally ad-hoc |
| 20:10.47 | Oberon4278 | can't you run a TCP/IP repeater for a sort of off-the-grid internet? |
| 20:10.48 | eightyeight | unlike the internet or cell phones |
| 20:11.01 | youtah | and the electromagnetic spectrum is just so freaking cool |
| 20:11.04 | eightyeight | Oberon4278: http://www.broadband-hamnet.org/ |
| 20:11.28 | eightyeight | ^ that project allows you to flash the rom on your linksys wrt54g |
| 20:11.39 | eightyeight | then you can have a mesh net, which is disconnected from the general internet |
| 20:11.58 | eightyeight | so, in an emergency, there can still be a web server, file server, email, etc, to relay communications, documents, etc |
| 20:12.17 | eightyeight | uses amateur radio frequencies on the 2.4 GHz spectrum |
| 20:12.55 | youtah | or if I am up in the mountains, say, in the Uintas, away from cell phone coverage, and someone gets a compound femur fracture... I can easily call in medical help from 50 miles away |
| 20:13.07 | eightyeight | our stake has a weekly ham emergency comm. radio checkin on 2m |
| 20:13.26 | youtah | 2m = two meter band |
| 20:13.35 | youtah | which is about 144~148 Megahertz |
| 20:13.37 | eightyeight | the goal is to make sure batteries are charged, equipment is properly functioning, and we are familiar with protocol in case an actually emergency hits |
| 20:13.47 | youtah | 2m being the length of the wavelength. |
| 20:13.52 | eightyeight | indeed |
| 20:14.21 | eightyeight | the higher frequencies are generally used for local communications |
| 20:14.27 | eightyeight | while the lower frequencies for longer distances |
| 20:14.50 | eightyeight | the 2 meter band and the 70 centimeter band are typically used for local chat |
| 20:14.51 | Oberon4278 | cool |
| 20:14.53 | youtah | Some people get their HAM radio license, solely for flying RC airplanes and helicopters on other non-publicly shared frequencies |
| 20:14.53 | Oberon4278 | is 2m high or low? |
| 20:14.57 | eightyeight | very high |
| 20:15.04 | Oberon4278 | ok |
| 20:15.15 | eightyeight | 70cm is "ultra high" |
| 20:15.25 | youtah | 10 meters is "high" |
| 20:15.34 | Oberon4278 | so, as a semi-related aside |
| 20:15.53 | Oberon4278 | in the military, in basic training, there are three things they teach you how to do |
| 20:15.58 | Oberon4278 | shoot, move, and communicate |
| 20:15.59 | eightyeight | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radio_spectrum#By_frequency |
| 20:16.23 | Oberon4278 | and those three things are also the three things that a military force has to be able to do in order to operate |
| 20:17.16 | Oberon4278 | of the three I think movement is the most important |
| 20:17.42 | Oberon4278 | since if all else fails, the ability to move arms and messages can make up for the other two |
| 20:18.04 | eightyeight | indeed |
| 20:18.12 | Oberon4278 | So, if you get a ham license, what slices of frequency are you allowed to operate in? |
| 20:18.26 | jlp_znc | http://www.peterson-tech.com/~jlp/ham/alphabet.html |
| 20:18.29 | eightyeight | i can signal with mirrors |
| 20:18.42 | jlp_znc | comparison of phonetic alphabet with phonyetic alphabet |
| 20:18.52 | eightyeight | Oberon4278: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amateur_radio_frequency_allocations |
| 20:19.16 | jlp_znc | and I say "Zed" when others would say "Zee", but I do say "Zulu" when being phonetic |
| 20:19.32 | Oberon4278 | eightyeight: You can signal with mirrors all day long, but if you're signaling to me I won't get any message other than "someone is here and wants your attention" |
| 20:19.36 | jlp_znc | my callsign has a Zed in it :-) |
| 20:20.06 | Oberon4278 | youtah: It makes me sad that autonomous drones are disallowed by the FAA, because I would love to operate a network of them in my neighborhood. |
| 20:20.19 | eightyeight | Oberon4278: yup. that's about the extent of my learning to communicate across mountain tops from scouts. :) |
| 20:20.30 | Oberon4278 | I don't even know what I'd do with them, it'd just be cool to have quadcopters taking off and landing from my roof continuously. |
| 20:20.44 | Oberon4278 | Maybe monitor traffic. |
| 20:20.53 | Oberon4278 | Or pollen levels. |
| 20:21.25 | Oberon4278 | Or they could be a binary weather monitor. If they land that's a 1 and the weather is fine. If they take off but never come back that's a 0 and we're having a storm. |
| 20:21.30 | eightyeight | Oberon4278: so, to answer your earlier question, amateur radio typically starts at "1.8 MHz", which is considered "medium frequency" |
| 20:21.36 | Oberon4278 | ok |
| 20:21.56 | eightyeight | then 3.5 MHz through 30 MHz is "high frequency" |
| 20:22.28 | eightyeight | then 50 MHz, 144MHz, and 220MHz are VHF |
| 20:22.32 | jlp_znc | http://modulatedlight.org/optical_comms/optical_qso_107mile.html <- QSO using visible light |
| 20:22.38 | eightyeight | and it just goes up from there |
| 20:23.19 | jlp_znc | Oberon4278: blimps |
| 20:23.37 | eightyeight | jlp_znc: that's cool. i didn't communicate quite over that distance with mirrors |
| 20:24.23 | youtah | "jlp_znc> my callsign has a Zed in it :-)" << lol jlp_znc |
| 20:25.46 | eightyeight | i've tried learning ASL, morse code, and semaphores |
| 20:25.57 | eightyeight | imo, communication can't be under estimated |
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| 20:46.32 | jlp_znc | I really want to learn morse code. I hate being a "no-code" ham. :-) |
| 20:46.39 | youtah | ditto |
| 20:46.50 | youtah | I just need to find the time to dedicate to it |
| 20:47.13 | jlp_znc | there are well established techniques to learn it, too... just need to take the time to do so (and find a good way to practice) |
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| 21:03.07 | Oberon4278 | I used to date a girl who listened to Morse Code for the Army. |
| 21:03.55 | Oberon4278 | The training process made her more than a little bit crazy. She complained of waking up at night and hearing morse code in the random tapping of branches on the window, the fridge's compressor, etc. |
| 21:05.47 | Tene | The last time I did anything with morse was when a friend noticed that my old nokia phone's SMS alert noise was literally "SMS" in Morse. |
| 21:05.54 | Tene | ... -- ... |
| 21:06.04 | jlp_znc | ahh, nokia |
| 21:06.08 | Tene | That must have been... 2005, I think? |
| 21:13.12 | eightyeight | i deliberately changed a lot of notifications on my android to morse code |
| 21:13.20 | eightyeight | SMS, IRC, EMAIL, etc |
| 21:13.23 | eightyeight | drive my wife nuts |
| 21:13.44 | eightyeight | i learned the patterns for those notifications pretty quickly |
| 21:13.50 | eightyeight | didn't help me much beyond that though. heh. |
| 21:15.07 | programmerq | that's genious. |
| 21:16.26 | eightyeight | i actually had a lot of fun with it |
| 21:22.36 | programmerq | eightyeight: next you should have it just beep out your incoming sms |
| 21:23.45 | RyanE | or the subject line of emails. |
| 21:24.43 | eightyeight | it would be exceptionally noisy, and not very secure |
| 21:24.49 | eightyeight | but would be a great learning tool |
| 21:24.59 | eightyeight | pissing everyone off along the way. :) |
| 21:25.01 | programmerq | I bet there is a TTS framework in android, and I bet you could get a provider that just did morse code. |
| 21:25.22 | jnbek | what are you willing to bet, programmerq ? |
| 21:25.35 | jnbek | it's gotta hurt!! |
| 21:25.37 | eightyeight | i was thinking of something, where when i press the sms message, rather than reading it, it "plays it" |
| 21:25.37 | RyanE | you could probably program that in BASH |
| 21:25.56 | eightyeight | so, i get the "... -- ..." alert that an SMS was delivered |
| 21:26.06 | eightyeight | then, when opening it up, i get the message itself in morse |
| 21:26.08 | eightyeight | heh |
| 21:26.35 | programmerq | jnbek: as much as it pains me, I bet your left arm. |
| 21:26.43 | jnbek | like heck! |
| 21:26.48 | jnbek | moves to Finland |
| 21:27.06 | programmerq | follows jnbek since he can work anywhere with an internet connection |
| 21:27.52 | jnbek | isn't worried, his fellow Viking cohorts will protect him |
| 21:28.36 | programmerq | I have viking ancestry too, you know. |
| 21:41.17 | jlp_znc | also viking |
| 21:41.28 | jlp_znc | Norwegian viking |
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| 21:44.17 | jlp_znc | and Minnesota Viking :-) |
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| 22:16.53 | jxqz | ~napoleon |
| 22:16.54 | infobot | Just listen to your heart. That's what I do. |
| 22:19.03 | jlp_znc | ~roy |
| 22:19.03 | infobot | The Elders of the Internet would never stand for it. |
| 22:19.22 | jlp_znc | ~moss |
| 22:19.22 | infobot | Did you see that ludicrous display last night? |
| 22:19.35 | jlp_znc | how'd that extra space get in there?!? |
| 22:19.40 | jlp_znc | that's ludicrous! |
| 22:24.01 | jlp_znc | ~moss |
| 22:24.01 | infobot | Did you notice how she didn't even get excited when she saw this original ZX81? |
| 22:24.22 | jlp_znc | extraneous spaces (and misspelling of "style") fixed in moss quotes. |
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| 22:33.44 | Oberon4278 | ~roy |
| 22:33.45 | infobot | Don't Google the question, Moss! |
| 22:34.00 | Oberon4278 | Did they ever do more than the first couple of shows? |
| 22:34.37 | eightyeight | there were 4 seasons, iirc |
| 22:34.46 | eightyeight | and they went progressively down hill fast |
| 22:37.01 | romanovic | i wouldn't say they all did! |
| 22:37.15 | jxqz | http://www.hulu.com/watch/622636 |
| 22:37.26 | romanovic | the Golden Boy episode in season 2 is hilarious |
| 22:37.37 | romanovic | I also thought the final episode was good |
| 22:38.05 | eightyeight | season 2 was okay |
| 22:38.11 | eightyeight | 3 was pretty bad, and 4 was just awful |
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| 22:38.55 | romanovic | I think i've only seen season 4 episodes once. whereas i've seen seasons 1 and 2 about 15 times |
| 22:39.18 | romanovic | so maybe i'm forgetting |
| 22:52.36 | jlp_znc | well, it did go downhill when <spoiler>Denham jumped out the window</spoiler> |
| 22:53.07 | jlp_znc | but I still laughed at all four seasons. |
| 22:53.34 | jlp_znc | btw, youtah, I finally finished season 3 of arrested development. woo! |
| 22:53.51 | jlp_znc | I'm not sure how they are going to handle the seven year gap, though. on to season four! |
| 22:53.56 | youtah | lol, WOO HOO! |
| 22:54.08 | youtah | yeah, they handled very interestingly |
| 22:54.13 | youtah | kind of refreshing though |
| 22:54.55 | jlp_znc | they did kind of leave a few threads hanging... like <spoiler>Maebe and George Michael's marriage.</spoiler> |
| 22:59.03 | jxqz | did no one enclixen my link? |
| 22:59.16 | jxqz | IT crowd season 5 |
| 23:01.06 | jlp_znc | whaaa? |
| 23:01.38 | jlp_znc | oh, hulu, that's why I didn't click it. |
| 23:13.19 | romanovic | that was the final episode, not actually the beginning of a new season. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_The_IT_Crowd_episodes#.22The_Internet_Is_Coming.22_special_.282013.29 |
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