| 00:42.10 | shalkie | jlp_vnc: I only do that after they call me to let me know that my computer has a serious problem. |
| 00:42.28 | jlp_vnc | well, then you're probably safe. |
| 00:42.33 | jlp_vnc | or, no, wait, |
| 00:42.37 | jlp_vnc | the other one, not safe. |
| 00:43.28 | jlp_vnc | "hello, dis is micorsoft technical support. we haf detected a problem on your computor" |
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| 03:25.48 | TodPunk | Haskell is weird |
| 03:25.56 | TodPunk | just sayin', no followup |
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| 04:51.00 | shalkie | jlp_vnc: Yep, and they even told me they were at MS HQ, in Redmond, CA. It really comforted me to know that. |
| 04:51.33 | jlp_vnc | Redmond, CA. Awesome. |
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| 13:56.03 | programmerq | https://www.battleforthenet.com/ - I am emailing and calling my reps this morning. this site has decent tools to help you do it. |
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| 16:02.49 | jalbretsen | *grumble* |
| 16:05.29 | jalbretsen | The last 2 weeks have made me realize that at times, recruiters are nothing more than sales people. Sorry, no, I will not commit to the job until the offer and everything else is laid out before me, only then will I decide. Stop asking me to commit to something where I don't know all the details. |
| 16:08.07 | Jayce | jalbretsen: switching away from the gateway? |
| 16:09.35 | jalbretsen | No, I have not decided yet. |
| 16:09.58 | programmerq | yeah, they are totally sales people. |
| 16:10.20 | jalbretsen | I don't want to, but some politics is getting annoying and I don't want to play anymore. |
| 16:10.27 | jalbretsen | but we'll see |
| 16:11.26 | jalbretsen | Anyone heard of / know about Mountain View Software? |
| 16:16.49 | eightyeight | recruiters drive me crazy |
| 16:16.59 | eightyeight | i don't mind their help when i seek them out |
| 16:17.18 | eightyeight | but the constant barrage of emails from them, when i'm not seeking them out, is spam, as far as i'm concerned |
| 16:26.21 | jalbretsen | eightyeight: That's because you lack the skills you need for SentOS and Phadora |
| 16:27.22 | eightyeight | :) |
| 16:27.25 | programmerq | haha! |
| 16:28.29 | Tod-Work | I'm surprised lately how much recruitment is going on at user groups |
| 16:29.03 | Tod-Work | does not like middle-men that add no value |
| 16:29.34 | jalbretsen | the message I get from them is finding someone is hard. All the good people are typically happy where they are at and don't want to move. Heck, the only reason I considered this recent one is because it's even closer to home than my current job. Like 2.5 miles. |
| 16:30.50 | jalbretsen | I've get job leads in the SLC area (Cottenwood Heights, South Jordan, Riverton, etc) weekly. There was one week I got like 10. |
| 16:32.13 | programmerq | I have decided to talk to recruiters recently rather than just saying no and hanging up. |
| 16:32.20 | programmerq | just on the off chance they have something decent. |
| 16:34.42 | jalbretsen | I like to keep them there for a network, in the chance where I come to work one day and the company is gone. I will have many people I can contact. |
| 16:39.28 | programmerq | that's my thinking too. |
| 16:39.36 | programmerq | I've also been asking if they have external referral bonuses |
| 16:39.47 | programmerq | I have a few buddies that have been looking for work. |
| 16:39.55 | programmerq | I think they all have new jobs now though. |
| 16:41.59 | jxqz | it is always been my experience that the best jobs and job experiences are obtained without any HR meddling |
| 16:43.37 | programmerq | yeah, I started working with a recruiter, and then found my current gig by word of mouth. |
| 16:45.40 | jlp_vnc | btw, anyone interested in relocating to the bay area and working at LinkedIn, we are still hiring like mad. they recently raised our referral bonus from $3k to $10k for qualified referrals. if you're interested in LinkedIn, PM me. I'm not a recruiter. :-) |
| 16:46.48 | jlp_vnc | I have a purely pecuniary interest in helping you get employed here. |
| 16:47.16 | programmerq | jlp_vnc: I would love to work with a bay area company, but I certainly don't want to relocate there. |
| 16:47.26 | jlp_vnc | aye, there's the rub. |
| 16:47.36 | jlp_vnc | sometimes you just have to bite the bullet |
| 16:47.36 | jxqz | yeah, there's too much bay |
| 16:47.49 | jxqz | some people like other spices too |
| 16:48.10 | programmerq | jlp_vnc: yes. sometimes you do. I don't need to any time soon from what I can tell. :) |
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| 16:52.35 | jlp_vnc | well, if your situation changes, LinkedIn is a great company to work for. |
| 16:54.57 | jsmith | still like working for Bluehost, fwiw |
| 16:55.01 | jsmith | s/like/likes |
| 16:55.04 | jsmith | fires his typist |
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| 17:12.02 | jlp_vnc | jsmith: even with youtah working there? :-) |
| 17:15.53 | youtah | Ouch! |
| 17:16.12 | jsmith | jlp_vnc: Especially with him working there... who else is gonna let me borrow their shiny lenses :-) |
| 17:16.25 | youtah | Hey.... jsmith loves me working here. I'm slowly going through anything tagged by Jayce and fixing it. |
| 17:16.35 | jsmith | jlp_vnc: I mean... Jayce shoots Canon, and fozzmoo only cares about video... |
| 17:16.42 | youtah | lol |
| 17:16.50 | jsmith | jlp_vnc: Besides, youtah actually gets things done! |
| 17:17.03 | youtah | and neybar_work doesn't even know what photos and videos are |
| 17:17.19 | jsmith | youtah: But he swings a mean yo-yo |
| 17:18.15 | youtah | yeah, but did you hear he throws way his used, worn out strings? Like they're nothing? Just trash? To be disguarded? There's children in Africa without strings to play with! |
| 17:19.11 | jlp_vnc | think of the children! |
| 17:19.59 | jlp_vnc | (you have to read that with a high pitched, kind of warbly voice) |
| 17:20.10 | youtah | lol |
| 17:20.49 | jlp_vnc | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RybNI0KB1bg |
| 17:21.56 | Jayce | youtah: if *I* modified front-end code, you know somebody needs to clean that #@$ up |
| 17:22.08 | Jayce | but if you think that's bad, ask around you about Rob-code |
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| 17:41.13 | youtah | lol Jayce |
| 18:05.05 | Tod-Work | janderson_ and I worked with guy named Rob. Is it just universal that guys named Rob are feckless coders? |
| 18:07.16 | Jayce | great coder, just odd people skills :) |
| 18:11.07 | jlp_vnc | youtah and I worked with a guy named Rob, too. he wasn't a coder, but he was a decent sysadmin |
| 18:11.30 | jlp_vnc | I code, but I don't think of myself as a "coder" |
| 18:11.53 | joshh | there's a rob here who is a good coder and very brusque people person |
| 18:12.20 | joshh | the kind of guy that is "negative" and swears a lot in company-wide emails, but gets away with it because he's correct |
| 18:13.06 | joshh | and he actually keeps getting promoted |
| 18:23.55 | jlp_vnc | so which team internet t-shirt do people like? I think the one with the big cat face on it is too goofy looking. |
| 18:24.06 | jlp_vnc | http://teespring.com/stores/team-internet |
| 18:31.17 | Tod-Work | Do I have to like any of them? |
| 18:31.42 | Tod-Work | Do they have a tshirt that isn't geared towards 4chan zealots? |
| 18:32.39 | jlp_vnc | no, no they don't |
| 18:33.49 | Tod-Work | Sorry, if I have to choose based on those shirts, I'm definitely not on team internet |
| 18:34.38 | Tod-Work | I wonder if pashdown would sell team xmission shirts |
| 18:52.05 | joshh | oh come on Tod-Work, that kitty one would be perfect for you |
| 18:52.41 | Tod-Work | 1) I don't like cats. 2) I don't actually wear tshirts very often. 3) I'm an adult. |
| 18:53.58 | Tod-Work | so yes, probably perfect |
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| 19:07.34 | youtah | and..... Tuition PAID in full. |
| 19:07.38 | youtah | cries |
| 19:15.45 | Jayce | c'mon, you were just working your usual corner, no reason to cry |
| 19:40.28 | youtah | http://www.homechannelnews.com/article/lowes-ordered-pay-2x4-settlement |
| 19:40.31 | youtah | *face palm* |
| 19:41.49 | romanovic | wow. |
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| 20:00.21 | programmerq | wow indeed. |
| 20:03.23 | jlp_vnc | and once again, the lawyers prove that lawyers are important. notice how it doesn't say who actually gets that $1.6 million settlement. the kicker is that the case was filed by district attorneys of several california counties. since those DAs are public employees, they're probably not getting the payout for themselves. |
| 20:05.51 | jlp_vnc | so now when contractor Joe tells his chief flunky to go pick up a couple of 2x4s at Lowes, flunky can come back and truthfully say "I tried boss, but they didn't have any 2x4s... only 1.5x3.5s" |
| 20:24.57 | youtah | http://i.imgur.com/orN5bcs.gif |
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| 20:32.41 | Migs | KITTIES. |
| 20:34.21 | youtah | lol Migs |
| 20:34.25 | youtah | long time no see in here |
| 20:39.11 | levi | So sleeeepy. |
| 20:39.27 | fozzmoo | Yes Sneezy? |
| 20:46.08 | youtah | I'm way sleepy too |
| 20:46.12 | youtah | must be about 2:30 |
| 20:46.15 | youtah | Oh, looky there |
| 20:46.28 | youtah | 2-3 is my dragging hour |
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| 20:48.15 | Migs | I know, I haven't talked much |
| 20:48.20 | Migs | no real reason why |
| 20:49.47 | Tod-Work | <Richmond> Just not a lot to say, I guess |
| 21:10.50 | eightyeight | finished typing up the solitaire, card-chameleon, pocket-rc4, chaocipher, and talon card ciphers: |
| 21:10.51 | eightyeight | http://aarontoponce.org/card-ciphers/ |
| 21:11.10 | eightyeight | waiting on correspondance from the authors of mirdek and "untitled", before typing those up |
| 21:12.12 | jlp_vnc | "untitled" |
| 21:12.27 | jlp_vnc | how do you distinguish that from all the other "untitled" methods? |
| 21:12.36 | eightyeight | i listed the author |
| 21:12.39 | jlp_vnc | ahh |
| 21:12.50 | eightyeight | oh, that reminds me. i need to link to the upstream source |
| 21:12.51 | jlp_vnc | I was going to say just assign an arbitrary number |
| 21:12.51 | eightyeight | heh |
| 21:12.54 | eightyeight | ads those |
| 21:12.59 | eightyeight | *adds |
| 21:13.01 | jlp_vnc | "untitled 1" |
| 21:13.05 | jlp_vnc | "untitled 2" |
| 21:13.11 | jlp_vnc | "untitled n+1" |
| 21:13.22 | eightyeight | yeah. i emailed john savard about it, if he wanted to title it, and he didn't seem to be interested |
| 21:13.24 | eightyeight | heh |
| 21:13.44 | jlp_vnc | "John Savard's untitled card cipher" |
| 21:14.00 | eightyeight | there's still _very_ much work to be done |
| 21:14.13 | eightyeight | including wording, grammar, reading flow |
| 21:14.14 | eightyeight | etc |
| 21:25.35 | eightyeight | ok. sources added |
| 21:46.38 | youtah | http://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/putin-weapons-counter-threats-russia-25403122 |
| 21:46.41 | youtah | Oh boy |
| 21:46.52 | youtah | http://www.nbcnews.com/science/space/solar-storm-warning-sun-shoots-x-flare-outburst-earth-n200321 |
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| 22:00.13 | youtah | hey harleypig you ready for your broudoir photoshoot? |
| 22:00.43 | harleypig | :] I don't have a thing to wear. |
| 22:00.59 | youtah | only thing you'll need is a smile |
| 22:03.50 | Migs | lol @ bro-udoir |
| 22:04.44 | harleypig | :D I got a smile! And dimples too ... lots of dimples! |
| 22:05.41 | Jayce | his dimples have dimples |
| 22:13.54 | harleypig | I like dudeoir better. |
| 22:18.11 | youtah | yeha? |
| 22:18.30 | youtah | you guys talk about Google/Gmail password leak in here yet? |
| 22:18.35 | youtah | http://time.com/3318853/google-user-logins-bitcoin/ |
| 22:19.39 | eightyeight | yeah. it's likely very old data, and likely from phishing attempts, rather than a compromised google database |
| 22:23.08 | harleypig | well, shit. I just barely got my new google password memorized and now I gotta change it again. |
| 22:23.14 | youtah | lol |
| 22:32.21 | eightyeight | https://mega.co.nz/#!b5lREBgS!LnC9yfR3RC--iMeNMWdQP7m1j4nUf9RTmI_RhAUjzD4 |
| 22:32.26 | eightyeight | ^ .zip of accounts |
| 22:51.05 | jlp_vnc | is there a site with a list of compromized accounts so you don't have to download the whole thing? |
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| 22:56.04 | Tod-Work | jlp_vnc, it's only a 40 MB file |
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| 22:59.10 | jlp_vnc | doesn't want house security to get all up in his face |
| 23:00.05 | jlp_vnc | I've already had some runins with them, thanks to my fast and loose lifestyle. :-) |
| 23:08.18 | rsimpkins | All my passwords are 'a' - it is so simple that no evil people will ever thing to try it. |
| 23:08.43 | rsimpkins | I may have to switch to '1.2.3.' |
| 23:11.02 | Migs | http://i.imgur.com/bRwvu16.jpg |
| 23:39.42 | Migs | Important question: |
| 23:39.45 | Migs | If I rip a big one, do I gain weight or lose weight? |
| 23:40.00 | Migs | Methane is lighter than air, so technically would it even contribute to my weight, or would it actually slightly lift my body up while it's in there? |
| 23:40.47 | Migs | rsimpkins: They'll just assume it's a typo in the password leak |
| 23:43.14 | jlp_vnc | Migs: my own personal opinion (for whatever that's worth) is that the amount of lift you would gain or lose is infinitesimal. too small to measure. |
| 23:43.56 | jlp_vnc | but then, you should watch this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=luAtON_hG_w |
| 23:46.24 | Migs | oh I know it's incredibly small, but does it happen? |
| 23:46.26 | Migs | that's my question |
| 23:47.44 | jlp_vnc | I suspect you would gain wait, but such a small fraction of a gram that you would have trouble measureing it. keep in mind that you gain and lose weight all day long just by breathing in and out (and you change the amount of air you displace, too!) |
| 23:47.58 | jlp_vnc | you probably lose more weight from sweating |
| 23:48.17 | Migs | why would I gain weight from breathing air? |
| 23:48.19 | jlp_vnc | s/wait/weight/ |
| 23:48.33 | Migs | oh nm |
| 23:48.41 | jlp_vnc | the air has weight. when it's in your lungs, it's part of your weight. |
| 23:48.46 | Migs | got it |
