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| 15:46.02 | tvc123 | goozbach: baz |
| 15:54.20 | davido_ | Hm, APC / UPS began beeping last night. It's probably an end-of-life battery. Genuine replacement batteries are about the same price as replacing the whole unit. Are after-market UPS batteries acceptable? |
| 15:57.49 | levi | They're just some lead-acid variant; pretty low-tech. Should be fine, I'd think. |
| 16:01.10 | davido_ | Conveniently APC hasn't stamped a model number on the built-in battery. I can guess based on photos on amazon, i suppose. lol |
| 16:01.46 | tomstokes | Dimensions would probably match up |
| 16:01.49 | tomstokes | Or should, rather |
| 16:02.04 | tomstokes | I'd also check the voltage on the failing battery. Won't match the nominal, but you can probably figure out if it's 6V or 12V |
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| 16:13.28 | davido_ | oh yeah, good idea. |
| 16:14.01 | jxqz | If you take it to a battery store, they could probably tell you just by looking at it |
| 16:14.52 | davido_ | yeah, there's one of those in sandy or draper i think. |
| 16:19.53 | jxqz | UPS batteries are pretty standard and interchangeable from my experience |
| 16:20.18 | jxqz | we used lots of those style of batteries when I was doing astroparticle physics |
| 16:21.17 | jxqz | mostly for portable calibration equipment |
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| 16:24.25 | tomstokes | davido_: You can also usually tell the voltage by how many cells it has, which you can infer by seeing how many caps are on the top |
| 16:24.29 | tomstokes | Caps can be obscured or hidden |
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| 16:49.33 | RyanE | I don't think most UPS batteries have caps, they'd be sealed gel-type batteries. |
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| 17:50.46 | youtah_ | Has Jayce shared this with the group? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wnsdc7cTPuU |
| 18:13.04 | jsmith | youtah_: I don't dare look at it -- Youtube says it's age restricted content... |
| 18:13.36 | jsmith | youtah_: That, combined with the language of the post, makes me think twice :-p |
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| 18:21.29 | youtah_ | jsmith, it's from Jayce .... |
| 18:21.35 | youtah_ | how bad can it really be? |
| 18:21.41 | jsmith | youtah_: All the more reason to be suspicious.... |
| 18:21.50 | youtah_ | It's SFW.... one guy gets roughed up a little |
| 18:21.52 | youtah_ | that's about it |
| 18:21.56 | youtah_ | it's from Bulgaria |
| 18:23.07 | eightyeight | jsmith: i don't blame you. anything from youtah_ is suspect. :) |
| 18:23.33 | eightyeight | ~lart youtah_ for being the usual suspect |
| 18:23.33 | infobot | blasts youtah_ with a huge firehose then strangles youtah_ with it for being the usual suspect |
| 18:24.00 | jsmith | eightyeight: Don't worry... I'm an equal opportunity skeptic. I don't trust anything coming from you either, unless it's signed with your PGP/GPG key :-p |
| 18:24.10 | eightyeight | takes note |
| 18:24.23 | youtah_ | lol |
| 18:24.45 | youtah_ | So... I drilled a huge hole in the side of my new house yesterday |
| 18:24.49 | youtah_ | on purpose. |
| 18:24.51 | eightyeight | http://ae7.st/p/09c |
| 18:25.07 | youtah_ | Now see, THAT link looks suspicious as #$@% |
| 18:25.34 | eightyeight | ae7.st == domain of AE7ST. /p/ == pastebin. 09c == ID |
| 18:25.42 | youtah_ | :) |
| 18:25.49 | youtah_ | I remembered it was your call sign |
| 18:25.57 | youtah_ | you explained it to me once, can't remember what it all stood for |
| 18:26.06 | eightyeight | jsmith wanted a clearsigned message. what was i supposed to do? paste flood it in the channel? :) |
| 18:26.26 | youtah_ | lol |
| 18:26.34 | youtah_ | Why not? I do! :) |
| 18:26.41 | youtah_ | hides behind the couch |
| 18:26.47 | eightyeight | ~lart youtah_ again |
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| 18:27.07 | youtah_ | good thing I was behind the couch! |
| 18:27.38 | youtah_ | lead couch |
| 18:28.54 | eightyeight | you would have been safer hiding in the refridgerator |
| 18:29.39 | jsmith | eightyeight: OK, now I trust that it's really you that said "Better" :-p |
| 18:34.15 | spangborn | ~fart youtah_ |
| 18:34.16 | infobot | ACTION farts in youtah_'s general direction |
| 18:34.31 | youtah_ | ~flingpoo spangborn |
| 18:34.34 | youtah_ | ah dang |
| 18:34.39 | spangborn | ;p |
| 18:34.46 | youtah_ | http://petapixel.com/2014/08/30/yellowstone-levels-criminal-charges-drone-users-violating-parks-ban/ |
| 18:34.55 | youtah_ | http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2704003/A-no-fly-DRONE-Interactive-map-reveals-locations-U-S-unmanned-aircraft-banned-skies.html |
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| 19:00.32 | davido__ | tomstokes It's 12v. Has six non-removable caps. It's sealed lead-acid. Looks like the battery often found in fire-alarms. |
| 19:00.43 | davido__ | er, i mean commercial fire-alarm systems. |
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| 19:15.02 | youtah_ | http://www.welivesecurity.com/2014/08/28/android-security-2/ |
| 19:15.14 | youtah_ | "Android security mystery fake cellphone towers found in U.S." |
| 19:16.19 | youtah_ | I dont see your iPhones detecting band based attacks ;) |
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| 19:17.01 | eightyeight | related: https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2014/08/cell_phone_kill.html |
| 19:20.50 | youtah_ | mumbles "Dumb California" |
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| 19:42.25 | goozbach | blame canada |
| 19:42.38 | goozbach | eightyeight: you're not a fan of the swype keyboard on android |
| 19:42.44 | goozbach | what do you suggest? |
| 19:44.09 | eightyeight | goozbach: the stock android keyboard |
| 19:44.16 | eightyeight | it's foss, and it supports swiping |
| 19:44.26 | eightyeight | as well as alternative keyboard layouts, such as dvorak. :) |
| 19:44.40 | eightyeight | i did love swype though. it is a solid keyboard |
| 19:44.47 | eightyeight | too bad it's making location requests though |
| 19:44.55 | eightyeight | then again, it _is_ proprietary software |
| 19:46.52 | goozbach | wonders if the htc sense == andorid |
| 19:47.00 | goozbach | it's just not swype enough |
| 19:48.10 | goozbach | it is not. |
| 19:48.16 | goozbach | downloaded google keyboard |
| 19:48.18 | goozbach | gonna try that |
| 19:48.27 | goozbach | may have to turn off suggestions though, |
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| 20:03.00 | eightyeight | goozbach: htc sense is android with a custom UI |
| 20:03.05 | eightyeight | it's android underneath though |
| 20:03.11 | eightyeight | although their sense ui is proprietary |
| 20:05.11 | levi | Most android phones have a more-or-less customized UI. Sense is just HTC's way to name its own customization package. |
| 20:08.10 | eightyeight | indeed |
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| 20:33.46 | levi | I find Sense less objectionable than Samsung's customizations. Sense used to be pretty superior to the stock Android experience, but I think now they're mostly comparable but slightly different. |
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| 21:02.48 | eightyeight | since recent 4.x releases, i have found sense inferior in a lot of areas |
| 21:03.54 | programmerq | random question-- has anyone ever seen one a street vendor selling mexican elotes? we had them in southern california |
| 21:04.12 | eightyeight | in fact, i've had a hard time liking manufacturer customizations. moto blur, sense, and touchwiz |
| 21:04.53 | levi | The need for manufacturer customizations is much smaller now; I think they ought to go away. |
| 21:05.34 | eightyeight | agreed |
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| 21:11.20 | levi | The mobile handset world is just a massive mess, though, from the hardware on up to the applications. |
| 21:13.06 | eightyeight | meh |
| 21:20.30 | levi | Well, maybe the mess doesn't bother you particularly, but it has caused me all sorts of grief. |
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| 21:40.43 | joshh | programmerq: SF has some carts that sell them, as well as taquerias |
| 21:41.08 | programmerq | but nothing here in utah? |
| 21:41.12 | joshh | and some sports bars with mexican food have them |
| 21:41.14 | joshh | don't know about utah |
| 21:42.53 | joshh | does utah have more street vendors now than the ones by sears and downtown? |
| 21:43.23 | joshh | i used to get tacos from the one on state and 2nd south a lot |
| 22:59.01 | youtah_ | I kind of feel bad for Max Hall, I mean, come on... he already had to do time at BYU. |
| 23:01.48 | joshh | did something happen with him? |
| 23:02.03 | youtah_ | He was arrested for Cocaine and stolen items from Best Buy and Walmart |
| 23:02.30 | joshh | heh, the tribune commenters would have a field day with that |
| 23:02.40 | youtah_ | Oh yes |
| 23:03.37 | joshh | crazy |
| 23:04.17 | youtah_ | I feel like an HTML element with no style.... I'm classless. |
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