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| 00:54.16 | infobot | I want to go back to being weird. I like being weird. Weird is all I've got. That and my sweet stye. |
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| 00:59.07 | infobot | I am a man, he's a man, we're men! |
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| 15:29.22 | jxqz | ~napoleon |
| 15:29.22 | infobot | Wait, I forgot the crystals. |
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| 15:55.14 | eightyeight | yay. netsplits |
| 15:55.27 | eightyeight | why is it that freenode has such a hard time with it |
| 15:55.33 | eightyeight | but i never see it elsewhere? |
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| 15:59.29 | programmerq | are there any android phones that I can buy that are already unlocked and rooted? |
| 15:59.49 | programmerq | it looks like getting a nexus 5 from google would be unlocked |
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| 16:00.10 | programmerq | but I can't find any info on whether it is rooted. |
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| 16:13.03 | basepi | eightyeight: pretty sure it's the overwhelming popularity of freenode |
| 16:13.19 | basepi | they also get ddos'd pretty regularly, from what I understand. |
| 16:13.20 | basepi | shrugs |
| 16:14.17 | basepi | programmerq: this one's getting a lot of attention and runs cyanogenmod out of the box. have to find someone with an invite, though: http://oneplus.net/one |
| 16:15.37 | Tod-Work | programmerq, define "rooted" |
| 16:15.52 | Tod-Work | basically, "rooted" is ambiguous in mobile |
| 16:16.33 | Tod-Work | your nexus 5 can be tethered, run just about any app you want, install dev tools, etc, and it has no bloat unless you really for some reason want to remove the google services app |
| 16:16.57 | Tod-Work | in which case, why the hell are you getting an Android phone? Just get a Mozilla phone |
| 16:20.09 | jxqz | ~firefoxOS |
| 16:20.14 | jxqz | ~firefoxOS++ |
| 16:21.07 | eightyeight | basepi: yeah. that's true. and they allow tor connections, which is awesome, but brings its own level of riff-raff |
| 16:21.28 | basepi | hehe, yep |
| 16:22.15 | basepi | Alright, anyone here written a technical book before? The schedule they sent me is 150 pages in 96 days (first draft). Reasonable or am I setting myself up for pain? 1.5 pages a day doesn't seem terrible... |
| 16:22.42 | Jayce-work | pokes jsmith to answer basepi's question |
| 16:23.20 | jsmith | basepi: That's reasonable |
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| 16:23.33 | basepi | I thought so, just second guessing myself. =) |
| 16:23.55 | basepi | This is a new experience for me |
| 16:24.50 | Tod-Work | basepi: write it in half that and edit it yourself over the rest of the time |
| 16:25.38 | basepi | It's through a publisher, so no need to self-edit, won't get me any more money. =P But I do plan to get way ahead in case life gets crazy(er) |
| 16:27.01 | chapin | basepi: are you allowed to say what it's on? |
| 16:34.04 | basepi | SaltStack |
| 16:34.10 | basepi | chapin ^ |
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| 16:35.01 | chapin | basepi: Nice. I assumed so. |
| 16:36.00 | basepi | Hehe, that's one of the reasons I agreed to it. I know Salt really well, so I won't have to do too much research work to write the book. |
| 16:36.07 | basepi | Otherwise I might have used the "too busy" excuse |
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| 16:40.14 | jlp_znc | programmerq: I have a N5. it is "locked" by default, and not "rooted". it is easy to unlock, but doing so wipes the phone of all data, so if you're going to do it, do it before you invest a lot of time setting the phone up. rooting it is also easy. the only phone that I know of that comes from the manufacturer already rooted is the One Plus One, which ships with CM11 as it's OS. |
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| 17:00.43 | youtah | MORNING! |
| 17:01.00 | youtah | Oh man, I got such awesome sleep last night! |
| 17:03.02 | tvc123_ | youtah: I figured you would be up all night filming the lightning |
| 17:04.35 | tvc123_ | jlp_znc: the one+1 comes with cyanogen but is not rooted by default |
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| 17:23.54 | levi | Rooting my phones has generally led to more trouble than it was worth, at least for phones that I actually wanted to use on a regular basis. |
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| 17:28.44 | chapin | Rooting my phones has always been the best thing I could ever do for them. |
| 17:31.14 | chapin | Get rid of all the bloatware, and automate everything. |
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| 17:39.01 | programmerq | jlp_znc: did you get the google play edition? |
| 17:39.32 | programmerq | Tod-Work: I want to be able to use problams that require superuser access (specifically, titaniumbackup) |
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| 17:43.18 | programmerq | the oneplus one does look nice, but I'm stuck on sprint. looks like all the google play editions don't work on sprint anyway... |
| 17:44.14 | chapin | A buddy of mine got the oneplus one and is trying to get it replaced. He says something is wrong with the GPS. |
| 17:44.23 | chapin | I guess it's been super hard to work with them on it though. |
| 17:44.39 | chapin | But I don't think his problem is universal to the oneplus one |
| 17:46.12 | programmerq | I am kind of sick of carrier-specific phones and all the asenine restrictions and bloat they put on them. It would be nice to buy a phone and not have to "void my warranty" by running software I want to use on it. |
| 17:46.38 | chapin | ^agreed |
| 17:46.43 | programmerq | also, I want to travel internationally, and even though I unlocked my sprint htc one, it wasn't taking advantage of the vodafone nl LTE |
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| 17:47.44 | programmerq | so I am thinking I want to get a google play edition phone (or oneplus one), and switch back to tmobile when my sprint contract is up. |
| 17:47.51 | programmerq | I think I have over a year left on it though :/ |
| 17:48.19 | chapin | Has anybody tried Ting? |
| 17:48.21 | programmerq | getting a prepaid sim in NL was super easy. I walked in, gave cash, dropped in the sim, and walked out. |
| 17:48.37 | levi | Phones are not generally viewed by their manufacturers as "general purpose computers"; they view them more like game consoles. |
| 17:50.26 | levi | iPhones are at least minimally-screwed with by carriers, but still not what you want if you want a phone-sized general purpose computer that also happens to make phone calls. |
| 17:51.36 | levi | But the phone form factor is terrible for general-purpose computing, and I prefer to keep it optimized as a *phone* and use other things for general purpose computing. |
| 17:57.58 | levi | What I'd really like is a phone that runs a secure microkernel as its core OS, so the carrier can manage all its network-related stuff in a secure process. Then it'd allow various phone personality OS images to run concurrently and communicate. |
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| 18:20.57 | levi | Hmm.... will my resized NTFS virtual drive work?! So far, so good... |
| 18:23.54 | levi | Yes, it works. Now, I just have to wait for my domain account to become un-locked. :P |
| 18:25.23 | jlp_znc | programmerq: I got mine from T-mobile, but it is unencumbered with extra T-mobile crap. I think all N5s are the pretty stock android. |
| 18:28.09 | levi | Apparently T-mobile now includes free data with their new plans. It's got a cap, but IIRC it's reasonable for occasional data use. |
| 18:28.45 | Tod-Work | levi, yeah, I switched to that. It's 1GB a month, and I'm mostly using wifi, so I don't even approach it |
| 18:28.54 | Tod-Work | Saves me $40/month between Lorna and I |
| 18:28.57 | Tod-Work | *me |
| 18:29.35 | levi | Yeah, I'm going to have to check what our typical data usage is; might be worth it for us to switch. |
| 18:29.54 | jlp_znc | Tod-Work: your "Lorna" is not also known as "Bubbles", is she? |
| 18:30.42 | jlp_znc | my wife's cousin Lorna has a daughter also named Lorna (confusing, ehh?) that is nicknamed "Bubbles" |
| 18:31.03 | Tod-Work | jlp_znc, not that I know of, though she was a fan of Power Puff Girls |
| 18:31.13 | Tod-Work | Lorna Jr.? |
| 18:31.23 | jlp_znc | often also known as "Little Lorna" |
| 18:32.33 | Tod-Work | levi, you can do all that online now, too |
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| 19:41.23 | jlp_znc | so I'm looking at an internal web page and I see this text at the bottom: "Warning : Tested only on browsers, not on IE. Please use FireFox or Chrome for better user experience" |
| 19:41.57 | jlp_znc | someone was a little testy, I think :-) |
| 19:43.03 | jxqz | you should try lynx |
| 19:43.18 | supaplex | or elinks |
| 19:43.47 | supaplex | [war] Real men use GET and $PAGER for their user agent. |
| 19:48.13 | eightyeight | real men use a magnetized needle and a steady hand |
| 19:48.27 | jlp_znc | for their user agent? |
| 19:48.46 | eightyeight | nevermind |
| 19:48.51 | jlp_znc | :-) |
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| 19:50.03 | eightyeight | T4rku5: as an fyi, if you set your nickserv password as your server password, you will auto-identify to nickserv on connection and your cloak will be applied before joining channels |
| 19:50.57 | T4rku5 | ok, so should I change something? |
| 19:51.10 | eightyeight | what client are you using? |
| 19:52.10 | T4rku5 | LimeChat |
| 19:53.04 | eightyeight | i'm not familiar with that client, but i'm guessing that somewhere in the server settings you have for freenode, there is the option to set a server password |
| 19:53.38 | eightyeight | if you set your nickserv password in that field, then this won't happen: http://ae7.st/p/66l |
| 19:53.53 | eightyeight | i'm gussing you want to hide your public ip, thus the reason for the cloak. :) |
| 19:54.59 | T4rku5 | huh |
| 19:59.07 | T4rku5 | thanks eightyeight |
| 19:59.12 | eightyeight | np |
| 19:59.21 | T4rku5 | let me try logging in again |
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| 20:00.06 | eightyeight | http://ae7.st/p/4rl |
| 20:00.17 | T4rku5 | any better, eightyeight? |
| 20:00.19 | basepi | Yep, worked. |
| 20:00.24 | eightyeight | T4rku5: workd |
| 20:00.28 | eightyeight | s/d/ed/ |
| 20:00.34 | T4rku5 | lol |
| 20:01.03 | T4rku5 | thanks for the tip |
| 20:01.08 | eightyeight | np |
| 20:01.17 | T4rku5 | and impressive that you have a bot to interpret for you |
| 20:01.34 | eightyeight | ~botsnack |
| 20:01.34 | infobot | eightyeight: thanks |
| 20:01.42 | T4rku5 | or...that you felt typing s/d/ed/ was faster than retyping worked |
| 20:01.54 | eightyeight | heh |
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| 20:19.29 | youtah | http://cdn3.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_asset/file/663618/Donating.vs.Death-Graph.0.jpg |
| 20:20.29 | jxqz | now that I'm on weechat, I'm blissfully unaware of anyone's join/parts |
| 20:20.55 | jxqz | or silly IP addrs or messages encrusted into such encumbery |
| 20:21.55 | jxqz | ~encumber |
| 20:27.46 | eightyeight | it's blissful when not a channel op |
| 20:29.58 | eightyeight | and alt+l in weechat is awesome |
| 20:47.07 | levi | What's alt+l in weechat do? |
| 20:47.22 | levi | I'm using weechat these days, but I haven't learned it very deeply. |
| 20:56.32 | eightyeight | levi: it takes you out of ncurses, and gives you the raw text |
| 20:56.38 | eightyeight | useful for copying text |
| 20:56.48 | eightyeight | http://dev.weechat.org/post/2014/02/16/Bare-display |
| 21:05.48 | levi | Apparently I don't have that binding set up. |
| 21:06.36 | eightyeight | /key missing |
| 21:06.45 | eightyeight | will add the missing keybindings |
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| 21:41.54 | Tod-Work | jxqz, I like information, so I don't turn any of that off |
| 21:47.00 | supaplex | humm, time to tune up the hbcd to include debian-live and grml-netboot on the same usb stick (hbcd + some portable apps already included). |
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| 21:51.48 | jlp_znc | jxqz: I don't care to see all the part/join stuff, either. I use irssi and have my window level set to not include that stuff. |
| 21:52.07 | jlp_znc | means I sometimes end up talking to people who aren't there any more, but oh well, that's their problem. |
| 21:55.19 | eightyeight | weechat actually has a smart filter for joins/quits |
| 21:55.36 | eightyeight | if they talk within 5 minutes of joining, weechat will show the join. otherwise it won't |
| 21:55.53 | eightyeight | same said for quits. if they quit within 5 minutes of their last message, that is |
| 21:57.51 | basepi | I've been playing with IRCCloud, it handles it pretty well by collapsing parts/joins as much as possible. Actually works better than I expected. |
| 22:02.36 | jxqz | jlp_znc: that's why I have the sidebar |
| 22:03.08 | jxqz | besides, in weechat, <alt>= show/hides them |
| 22:09.13 | eightyeight | jxqz: ooh. nice. didn't now about <alt>+= |
| 22:09.39 | eightyeight | i especially like that it doesn't get in the way of my existing filters |
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| 22:24.43 | jlp_znc | may have to take a look at weechat |
| 22:27.26 | jlp_znc | https://www.dropbox.com/s/nhu1m0p6e9f70xt/japeters%40japeters-ld1%3A~_004.png?dl=0 <- this is what my irssi looks like |
| 22:28.20 | jlp_znc | I run it in a tmux session on my linode, then connect to that with mosh from my desktop, laptop, wherever |
| 22:29.39 | jlp_znc | if you haven't used mosh (http://mosh.mit.edu/) yet, you should |
| 22:30.09 | jlp_znc | especially if you do anything from a laptop that involves sshing to other machines and leaving the connection open for a while. |
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| 22:45.59 | tomstokes | mosh is awesome for everything but scrollback |
| 22:46.54 | tomstokes | They had some ideas about making scrollback work, but they never panned out |
| 23:01.58 | jlp_znc | tmux handles the scrollback for non-curses apps for me, and curses apps (like irssi) generally have their own means of handling scrollback |
| 23:08.55 | basepi | mosh is on my long list of things I really want to look into but keep getting distracted. |
| 23:17.46 | RyanE | yeah, dig the mosh |
| 23:17.57 | RyanE | i mosh into my xmission shell account to do IRC |
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| 23:37.27 | jlp_znc | I think the thing I love most about it is how it automagically reconnects. we use IRC internally here at LinkedIn, so I have a window on my desktop with irssi running in it (in tmux). I have a window on my laptop with a mosh session to my desktop and the same tmux attached. as soon as I bring the VPN up, my mosh session automatically updates and there is my IRC with all it's history, etc. |
