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| 03:52.56 | goozbach | any aws experts in the house? |
| 03:53.20 | goozbach | I can see a private (but shared with me) AMI in the aws console on the web, but not via the aws cli |
| 03:53.26 | goozbach | any idea why not |
| 03:56.17 | goozbach | I just double-checked my creditntals, (created new root key) |
| 03:56.21 | goozbach | not that |
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| 05:04.10 | Sargun | goozbach: Eventual consistency? |
| 05:04.33 | Sargun | goozbach: IIRC, the AWS CLI does cache some stuff |
| 05:04.49 | Sargun | If you want, you can actually have it dump the request/response from the AWS API |
| 05:05.42 | goozbach | doubt it's caching, unless it cached the old creds |
| 05:07.33 | goozbach | gonna circle back anyway |
| 05:07.41 | goozbach | all I need is an AMI once a month |
| 05:07.48 | goozbach | and I can look that up and plug it into ansible |
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| 07:04.59 | Sargun | goozbach: What are you doing |
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| 14:10.33 | levi | waves from New Hampshire. |
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| 14:25.54 | jsmith | levi: New Hampshire, eh? |
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| 14:36.52 | *** topic/#utah is Utah related discussion including user groups | logs @ http://ibot.rikers.org/%23utah/ | See also ##lds | OpenWest Conference sometime 2014! openwest.org | https://fiber.google.com/cities/provo/ |
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| 15:02.13 | levi | Yeah, at an AVnu F2F meeting. |
| 15:03.19 | levi | My hotel is in Portsmouth, which is a pretty cool little town. Great seafood! |
| 15:11.32 | RyanE | you look small like an ant from here, levi. |
| 15:16.10 | Tod-Work | He doesn't eat much |
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| 15:43.38 | harleypig | youtah: you're a baaaad man! |
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| 15:57.54 | Oberon4278 | So I've got a customer who's running their sole, mission-critical server (with an 11 terrabyte SAN) on a Windows machine... which is itself running inside a VM. |
| 15:58.37 | Oberon4278 | To me this sounds like they're basically asking for everything to go horribly wrong, on account of I don't trust Windows *or* virtual machines. |
| 15:58.38 | Oberon4278 | Am I wrong? |
| 15:58.57 | jxqz | ~napoleonn |
| 15:58.59 | jxqz | ~napoleon |
| 15:58.59 | infobot | Wait, I forgot the crystals. |
| 16:00.45 | unum_ | Oberon4278: do they have any backups? |
| 16:04.43 | Oberon4278 | you know, I'm not 100% certain |
| 16:04.52 | Oberon4278 | I can't imagine that they *don't* have backups |
| 16:04.57 | Oberon4278 | but I don't actually know |
| 16:05.45 | Oberon4278 | I mean they've got an 11 TB SAN for Pete's sake, there's no way they can drop that kind of money on their mission critical infrastructure and *not* have a backup plan in place.... right? |
| 16:07.03 | jxqz | I think VMs are better because they isolate you somewhat from hardware problems |
| 16:07.42 | jxqz | s/problems/issues/ |
| 16:08.05 | jxqz | and you can have snapshots |
| 16:08.29 | unum | ya that's what I was thinking |
| 16:08.36 | unum | if they have a vm the hopefully have snapshots |
| 16:08.47 | unum | which is a really nice thing |
| 16:09.02 | Oberon4278 | How do you use snapshots? |
| 16:09.12 | jxqz | but 11 TiB has got t make snapshots a little more tricky |
| 16:09.15 | Oberon4278 | Is it an OS-level thing, or would they be snapshotting their entire DB? |
| 16:09.54 | Oberon4278 | The 11 TB is their database, the OS itself is much smaller. I imagine they could do just the OS and the database binaries and config files, and keep the database on a normal backup schedule. |
| 16:10.25 | jxqz | that's probably how it's done |
| 16:10.40 | jxqz | I mean, recommended |
| 16:11.22 | Oberon4278 | What about the OS? Has Windows become a respectable operating system while I wasn't looking? |
| 16:11.50 | jxqz | it's not that bad |
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| 16:12.21 | jxqz | if you really want the overhead and inconvenience associated with running proprietary software |
| 16:14.27 | Oberon4278 | in other news... near the top of the list of "Ways to piss off Oberon" is "Come in Monday afternoon, briefly read an issue that Oberon is handling, raise it to 'Crisis' level without talking to him about it, and then immediately go to lunch." |
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| 16:16.57 | jxqz | levi: what does that mean? |
| 16:16.57 | unum | Oberon4278: is it a server version for a desktop version? |
| 16:16.59 | Oberon4278 | (Among the notes that this customer's sales rep apparently did not read are the fact that the crisis has been handled and everything is fine now.) |
| 16:17.05 | unum | either way I wouldn't use it, but.... |
| 16:21.39 | Oberon4278 | unum: What do you mean? Oh, their Windows OS? |
| 16:22.13 | eightyeight | for those using WeeChat, version 1.0 has been released (10 days ago): http://weechat.org/news/75/20140815-Version-1.0/ |
| 16:22.18 | eightyeight | it's in debian sid |
| 16:25.59 | Oberon4278 | It's a server version, yes. Not sure which one. I could infer based on which version of Windows are supported by the version of our product that they're using, but I can never find the damn list. |
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| 18:05.47 | eightyeight | seems the new weechat has a new beep trigger |
| 18:05.57 | eightyeight | "/trigger disable beep" if you want to disable it |
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| 18:52.24 | levi | jxqz: What does which thing mean? |
| 19:03.17 | Tod-Work | the monolith |
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| 19:04.02 | jxqz | 'an AVnu F2F meeting' |
| 19:06.22 | eightyeight | jxqz: guessing this: http://www.avnu.org/ |
| 19:06.37 | eightyeight | http://www.avnu.org/news_and_events/events |
| 19:06.41 | levi | AVnu is the AVB industry alliance. |
| 19:06.46 | eightyeight | "MWG/TWF Face-to-face meeting" |
| 19:07.44 | levi | F2F is "face to face", yeah. |
| 19:12.33 | jxqz | twoface? |
| 19:12.49 | jxqz | and recursive acronymns? |
| 19:13.19 | Tod-Work | that's unpossible! |
| 19:44.53 | youtah | What did I miss from harleypig? |
| 19:53.15 | harleypig | I was commenting on your comment on facebook. My 11 year old is really curious why I found both of those comments so funny. |
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| 20:25.18 | youtah | For those of you that missed it: https://twitter.com/youtah/status/503744945627201536 |
| 20:36.09 | youtah | "Volume BOOT Only have 0Kb of Disk Space Remaining" |
| 20:36.13 | youtah | Uhhhhhh................................. |
| 20:41.05 | jxqz | you obviously need to rekilo your bytes |
| 20:41.55 | youtah | lol |
| 20:42.08 | youtah | This Bytes |
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| 22:32.56 | programmerq | yeah, our moss quote list is much too long for IRC. |
| 22:33.08 | programmerq | I tried dcc chat to infobot-- no luck |
| 22:42.54 | jlp_znc | bummer |
| 22:42.59 | jlp_znc | timriker! |
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| 23:26.53 | jxqz | ~napoleon |
| 23:26.53 | infobot | Sweet! That's like a dollar an hour! |
| 23:26.57 | jxqz | ~napoleon programmerq |
| 23:26.58 | infobot | ACTION takes programmerq's girlfriend to the mall for glamor shots |