| 00:40.43 | jima | i have a buffalo running openwrt now...i'm looking at upgrading to one ubiquiti edgerouter model or another soon. |
| 00:41.01 | jima | i have some concerns that the buffalo can't actually sustain 1gbit throughput |
| 00:42.32 | jima | also i know it's dying, since the wireless on it already croaked (which i replaced with a couple of cisco b/g APs) |
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| 01:19.53 | jima | youtah: regarding MOS, i know not all services use "MOS"...my air force n00b looked at me blankly when i used the term. |
| 01:38.39 | goozbach | anyone need cardboard boxes? |
| 01:38.45 | goozbach | or cardboard in general? |
| 01:51.06 | RyanE | no thanks, I'm trying to quit. |
| 01:52.11 | goozbach | I need a new car, but have *NO* idea what to get |
| 01:52.31 | goozbach | new meaning new to me, and cheaper than $8000 |
| 01:52.34 | goozbach | any suggestions |
| 01:52.37 | goozbach | ? |
| 01:55.22 | RyanE | for you? commuter car? |
| 01:55.29 | RyanE | If so, commuting to where? |
| 01:57.22 | goozbach | for me, yeah |
| 01:57.31 | goozbach | decent gas milage, commuter |
| 01:57.37 | goozbach | from spanish fork to provo |
| 02:02.31 | RyanE | My wife likes to look on ksl.com, but we've only ever bought a trailer from there. |
| 02:02.49 | goozbach | looking now but my big problem is I have no car desire right now |
| 02:02.58 | goozbach | so I'm at a loss as to what I want |
| 02:03.15 | goozbach | I *WANT* to get a full-size pickup but that's not happening for a while |
| 02:03.25 | goozbach | so I now need someting to tide me over |
| 02:03.31 | goozbach | audi a8 would be nice |
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| 02:58.47 | shalkie | goozbach: It seems the popular thing around my office is a Tesla... I hear the downpayment is around 10k. |
| 03:00.34 | jima | i could see tesla being popular at my office, but there are a lot of executives in the building. |
| 03:03.44 | goozbach | geez! that doesn't meet the $8000 requirement |
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| 03:04.32 | jima | you might be able to talk them down to an $8000 down payment ;-) |
| 03:07.07 | shalkie | Well I have a fairly small office so the two Tesla vehicles in the parking lot are not really good representative numbers. |
| 03:07.26 | jima | lotta porsche/etc at my building |
| 03:07.31 | shalkie | goozbach: I don't know all the details. Maybe they have a cheaper option. |
| 03:07.42 | shalkie | I am looking at something closer to the leaf. |
| 03:08.28 | jima | we managed to get my old beater to pass the safety inspection, so we've deferred goozbach's conundrum for another year. |
| 03:10.30 | shalkie | Oh nice. |
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| 03:10.49 | jima | only cost us ~50% of the car's value in repairs :-( |
| 03:11.14 | jima | meanwhile, our other vehicle is ~4 months off the lot :-P |
| 03:13.54 | jlp_znc | shalkie: my manager has a leaf... he loves it. |
| 03:15.03 | jlp_znc | there have been a few minor issues, mostly relating to it's tendancy to not be able to get a cell signal when parked near the charging station at work. it gets confused when it tries to tell him that it's done charging and can't get through. |
| 03:22.11 | shalkie | My biggest issue is the distance. I drive 50 miles oneway if I go into the office. There was some talk about a charging station at the office, but I have my doubts. |
| 03:24.46 | shalkie | Cisco is going to cut jobs: http://online.wsj.com/articles/cisco-systems-shows-more-signs-of-improvement-1407960991?mod=Tech_newsreel_1 |
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| 17:07.24 | *** topic/#utah is Utah related discussion including user groups | logs @ http://ibot.rikers.org/%23utah/ | See also ##lds | OpenWest Conference sometime 2014! openwest.org | https://fiber.google.com/cities/provo/ |
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| 17:08.23 | youtah | https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xfp1/t1.0-9/1922261_824711704222573_1384378718_n.jpg |
| 17:09.37 | shalkie | youtah: Meh. |
| 17:10.04 | shalkie | I thought it was funny when people suddenly started going "OMG! The NRA was right all along!" |
| 17:10.26 | youtah | You hit the Jim in the morning shalkie? |
| 17:10.28 | youtah | wait |
| 17:10.31 | youtah | don't answer that |
| 17:10.33 | youtah | I don't want to know |
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| 17:16.36 | shalkie | youtah: Well to tell you the truth... Oh wait, never mind |
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| 17:30.59 | youtah | lol |
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| 17:32.10 | jxqz | ~napoleon |
| 17:32.10 | infobot | Sweet! That's like a dollar an hour! |
| 17:34.12 | jlp_znc | ~roy |
| 17:34.12 | infobot | Hello, IT, have you tried turning it off and on again? |
| 17:36.30 | youtah | ~moss |
| 17:36.30 | infobot | Well that's easy to remember. 0118 999 88199 9119 725! 3! |
| 17:36.35 | youtah | lol |
| 17:36.39 | youtah | I love the extra ! |
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| 17:57.16 | youtah | Old but good.... the "Crazy to Hot" women Matrix http://www.break.com/video/hot-crazy-matrix-mans-guide-to-women-2742854 |
| 17:57.25 | youtah | has a good man matrix at the end |
| 18:14.31 | jxqz | if you drive a Porsche to work you might as well just burn money |
| 18:14.49 | jxqz | heck, if you're driving a car to work you might as well just burn money |
| 18:14.59 | jxqz | so inefficient |
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| 19:40.17 | youtah | eh jxqz? |
| 19:44.57 | jxqz | you burn almot $7000/year if you commute 0.5 hours to work |
| 19:45.13 | jxqz | in a car, that is |
| 19:45.24 | jxqz | a cheap car, that is |
| 19:46.18 | tomstokes | How do you figure? |
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| 19:47.09 | jxqz | how don't you figure? |
| 19:47.38 | tomstokes | Assuming $4/gallon gas, 30mpg (freeway), and thus 30 miles each way, then you're burning $8 per round trip in gas. Multiply by 5 days per week then by 48 work weeks and you get just shy of $2000 in gas |
| 19:47.48 | tomstokes | That leaves $5K to cover tires, oil, and depreciation |
| 19:47.55 | jxqz | http://www.mrmoneymustache.com/2011/10/06/the-true-cost-of-commuting/ |
| 19:49.16 | jxqz | I could be wrong about the 7, but it's definitely in the thousands category |
| 19:49.18 | tomstokes | Yeah that blog post estimates $0.17 per mile for a cheap car, which works out to $2500 on a 30-mile one-way commute |
| 19:50.01 | tomstokes | If you use the official $0.51/mile IRS rate then it's $7K per year |
| 19:50.16 | tomstokes | But that doesn't mean it costs you $7K per year, that's just the number that the IRS uses to cover all cases |
| 19:50.32 | tomstokes | But in all cases I'd still much prefer to not commute that far. |
| 19:51.21 | jsmith | What about the cost of insurance? |
| 19:51.44 | jsmith | That's part of what's included in the $0.51/mile value as well |
| 19:51.46 | tomstokes | Sure, but if you own a car you're paying that anyway, right? |
| 19:51.58 | tomstokes | Mileage doesn't adjust your premiums all that much |
| 19:52.37 | RyanE | pretty indisputable that it's somewhere in that $2-$7 range. |
| 19:52.54 | RyanE | that said, it's a decision like any other. |
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| 19:53.35 | tomstokes | Yep, cost/benefit analysis applies here just like everywhere else |
| 19:53.46 | tomstokes | Now if only more employers would accept remote employees |
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| 19:57.02 | RyanE | yeah, that'd be nice. I loved working from home, but that's been nearly 10 years now. |
| 20:07.00 | Migs | tomstokes: The number is continually increasing |
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| 20:12.35 | Tod-Work | ~moss |
| 20:12.35 | infobot | I came here to drink milk and kick ass. And I've just finished my milk. |
| 20:15.28 | eightyeight | heh |
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| 20:25.11 | youtah | jnbek, OMG I can't stop laughing... https://scontent-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/v/l/t1.0-9/1013490_10151724933497042_917101527_n.jpg?oh=4a5d2ce79ea36a61818dd98f5bcc7c01&oe=5475408F |
| 20:29.50 | jnbek | youtah: :D |
| 20:38.26 | harleypig | omg ... :D |
| 20:39.03 | harleypig | The confetti should be shredded comic books and porn |
| 20:39.24 | harleypig | and a box of condoms |
| 20:39.26 | eightyeight | the springs should sit the corpse up also |
| 20:40.28 | youtah | Yes to all these things |
| 20:40.58 | youtah | and a 5 gallon bucket of (dead by now) potato bugs |
| 20:41.07 | youtah | just for a WTF measure |
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| 20:44.39 | davido_ | Is there anyone here running FreeBSD v10+? |
| 20:47.28 | harleypig | youtah: and have kids draw murals on the walls |
| 20:47.41 | harleypig | err ... sides of the coffin |
| 20:48.19 | harleypig | just for grins and giggles, arrange for a half-eaten sandwich to be tossed in 100 years after internment. |
| 20:49.56 | youtah | and shove some wood underneath my dead fingernails, and make a bunch of scratch marks in the to of the coffin, make it look like I was trying to dig myself out from being buried alive |
| 20:50.04 | Jayce^ | nah, just a twinkie and a mcdonalds burger |
| 20:50.20 | youtah | but twinkies decompose! |
| 20:50.27 | youtah | I have already busted this myth |
| 20:50.45 | Jayce^ | rigth, but at a rate different from other items :) |
| 20:51.02 | youtah | https://www.flickr.com/photos/slc_jm/2109482584/ |
| 20:51.09 | youtah | I opened it up to get a better picture |
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| 20:52.06 | shalkie | tomstokes: Now I wonder, are there any states that still allow you to opt out of insurance if you can prove suffecient financial resources? |
| 20:52.36 | tomstokes | Is that a thing? |
| 20:53.00 | tomstokes | Seems counter-intuitive. Anyone with sufficient financial resources usually wants additional insurance to shield their savings |
| 20:53.32 | Jayce^ | not necessarily, especially younger people, it's (at least was) far cheaper to HSA and pay as you go |
| 20:53.59 | Jayce^ | I did that for a while, just had a 'catastrophe' policy, and paid cash for other stuff.. way better |
| 20:55.50 | tomstokes | I think he was referring to our earlier conversation about car insurance |
| 20:56.31 | tomstokes | Also an HSA still requires health insurance |
| 20:56.42 | fozzmoo | The solution seems to be "move back in with mom & dad." But that only works until you're 27. |
| 20:57.05 | Jayce^ | the linked policy filled that.. but was almost nothing |
| 20:57.19 | Jayce^ | fozzmoo: dont' worry, that date will keep moving |
| 20:57.26 | fozzmoo | Of course it will. |
| 20:57.49 | RyanE | 14:52 < shalkie> tomstokes: Now I wonder, are there any states that still allow you to opt out of insurance if you can prove suffecient financial resources? |
| 20:57.52 | RyanE | 14:52 < tomstokes> Is that a thing? |
| 20:58.30 | RyanE | sorry, absent-minded scrolling / selecting text bit me in the behind... :) |
| 20:58.42 | tomstokes | No worries, we've all been there before |
| 20:58.57 | RyanE | usually it's /clear |
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| 21:05.09 | youtah | shalkie & tomstokes ... if you guys have so much money that you don't think you no longer need pay for insurance anymore..... "How You Doin?!" |
| 21:05.17 | shalkie | tomstokes: Yeah, for car insurance back in the day you were not necessarily compelled to have insurance. When I was a teenager Utah was (if my memory is valid) a state that let you off the hook if you had like a $1m in liquid assets. |
| 21:05.26 | tomstokes | youtah: Oh don't be fooled, I love my insurance |
| 21:05.36 | tomstokes | shalkie: Oh, very interesting |
| 21:06.06 | shalkie | youtah: Don't be fooled, I have much more interesting things I would like to spend that insurance money on. |
| 21:06.46 | shalkie | But if I ever find my way into that type of money... I don't know that I would tell anyone other then the IRS. |
| 21:10.24 | youtah | So you're asking for a friend? |
| 21:11.26 | shalkie | *sniffle* Yes! |
| 21:11.31 | shalkie | gives sad eyes |
| 21:11.37 | shalkie | *sniffle* |
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| 21:47.05 | youtah | lol |
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| 21:51.49 | fungus | fuck |
| 21:51.55 | fungus | oops, wrong window |
| 21:52.24 | RyanE | yeah, you don't want to do *that* in the wrong window. :) |
| 21:52.52 | fungus | lol, I don't know, maybe it'll be fun. |
| 21:53.08 | eightyeight | potty mouth! |
| 21:54.09 | fungus | If my bash history recorded command not found errors, it would be my top used command. |
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| 22:04.04 | jxqz | what would be your bottom used command? |
| 22:04.13 | tomstokes | rm -rf / |
| 22:04.23 | tomstokes | Once, and never again |
| 22:07.16 | shalkie | tomstokes: I do that one on a regular basis... But for demonstrative purposes only. |
| 22:08.58 | shalkie | fungus: Please remember this is utah. So in future consider a substitute that sounds simliar. Buck is a reasonable choice. Oh sure we all get what your aiming at, but we can at least pretend that you didn't mean to curse. |
| 22:09.23 | shalkie | I have always found that substition thing to be stupid funny. |
| 22:09.32 | fungus | haha, but I did mean to curse. Just not in this window. |
| 22:10.06 | fungus | and F-words are so much more satisfying than B-words |
| 22:10.51 | shalkie | Depends on the B-word. C words can really get some people going too. |
| 22:11.38 | fungus | True, I don't use C words. they get people killed, or at least body parts removed, usually very painful ones. |
| 22:19.27 | shalkie | Anyone ever been to Malaysia? |
| 22:19.37 | RyanE | Singapore close enough? |
| 22:19.44 | Jayce^ | Philipenes |
| 22:24.28 | jxqz | what about |
| 22:24.31 | jxqz | ... |
| 22:24.34 | jxqz | G-words? |
| 22:24.46 | jxqz | H-words??! |
| 22:26.09 | shalkie | I was just looking at a screaming deal for a resort in Malaysia. |
| 22:26.37 | shalkie | I was just wondering if there was something(s) to be aware of. |
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| 22:31.02 | jxqz | I-words |
| 22:31.09 | jxqz | ~spoiler |
| 22:31.09 | infobot | from memory, spoiler is HARRY KILLS RON!!!!1 |
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| 23:49.51 | jxqz | ~spoiler |
| 23:49.51 | infobot | somebody said spoiler was HARRY KILLS!!!!1 |
