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| 03:11.32 | ericelliott | hi. |
| 03:13.30 | ericelliott | so, a really crazy thing happened. I posted an article on Medium about my JavaScript education Kickstarter campaign, and it went viral overnight. That was 3 days ago. Traffic has doubled day over day for three days. I've seen viral growth charts before, but the last time I ran a viral campaign, it doubled month over month, and reach over a million |
| 03:13.30 | ericelliott | users / month. |
| 03:13.56 | ericelliott | Day over day doubling... I've never personally seen before. I'm astounded. http://bit.ly/jshomes |
| 03:24.24 | RyanE | so you haven't seen the Potato Salad kickstarter, then? :) |
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| 03:39.10 | ericelliott | LOL |
| 03:39.13 | ericelliott | I have indeed. |
| 03:39.36 | ericelliott | Someone on Twitter even joked, "but will there be potato salad?" |
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| 07:43.12 | levi | ericelliott: Awesome. |
| 07:44.29 | levi | I made a comment on a reddit programming article about not using "academic" as a slur, and I've seen what *might* be oblique references to it from various people on Twitter lately. :P |
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| 10:47.59 | ericelliott | levi: Did you pledge on the Kickstarter? http://bit.ly/learnjsee |
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| 14:48.20 | unum | levi: that sounds like something I'd want to share with my tea party friends ;) |
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| 15:23.00 | unum | is bucardo still the best choice for postgresql replication |
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| 15:27.39 | jxqz | levi: sounds like something an academic would say |
| 15:28.31 | jxqz | you're probably a democrat trying to indoctrinate us in your subtle liberal ways |
| 15:28.44 | jxqz | ~napoleon levi |
| 15:28.44 | infobot | ACTION tames a wild honeymoon stallion for levi |
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| 17:55.39 | youtah | no |
| 17:57.02 | jxqz | yes |
| 17:57.45 | youtah | okay |
| 17:57.54 | youtah | bless in perl. weird. |
| 18:07.37 | eightyeight | this conversation makes more sense than perl |
| 18:09.08 | jsmith | eightyeight: Amen, brother! |
| 18:09.26 | youtah | lol |
| 18:09.26 | jsmith | expects to hear some feedback from Jayce^, neybar_work, and fozzmoo for that |
| 18:09.39 | youtah | Jayce^, is on vacation, again. |
| 18:09.47 | jsmith | youtah: I know, right? Such a slacker... |
| 18:10.02 | youtah | dont worry, we're filling his office right now |
| 18:10.11 | youtah | is just kidding, but it isn't a bad idea |
| 18:10.45 | youtah | fozzmoo, wanna help me fill Jayce^ 's office with water balloon? |
| 18:10.49 | youtah | balloons? |
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| 18:12.10 | youtah | Oh man |
| 18:12.14 | youtah | neybar, seriously? |
| 18:12.20 | neybar | doh! |
| 18:12.22 | youtah | you just now joined the room? |
| 18:12.41 | neybar | I thought I was in... I guess that explains why it was so quiet in here. |
| 18:12.44 | youtah | Sent you the history via Jabber |
| 18:13.01 | goozbach | I wanna help! |
| 18:13.09 | goozbach | water baloons seems exessive |
| 18:13.09 | youtah | !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 18:13.16 | goozbach | helium maybe |
| 18:13.20 | youtah | Kittens? |
| 18:13.27 | youtah | Fill it full of kittens? |
| 18:13.48 | youtah | Balloons would be fun, and too easy to clean up |
| 18:14.09 | goozbach | aluminim foil |
| 18:14.16 | goozbach | or three or for annoy-a-trons |
| 18:14.25 | youtah | Perfect goozbach |
| 18:16.00 | goozbach | i wish you could have it 'sleep' for a few days before activating |
| 18:18.14 | youtah | that would be perfect |
| 18:18.25 | youtah | although he does have an office, so it would be isolated |
| 18:20.38 | youtah | we woudln't have enough time for the annoy a trons |
| 18:20.50 | youtah | but an air compressor with a bunch of balloons would make work quick |
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| 18:24.14 | youtah | jsmith, Cora says hello |
| 18:25.13 | jsmith | youtah: OK, good to know. |
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| 18:26.00 | youtah | Howdy cora! |
| 18:27.32 | cora | HI :-) |
| 18:31.22 | youtah | http://i.imgur.com/9TA7rIA.gif |
| 18:31.31 | jlp_znc | I think it's round about lunch time... let's see, what's on the menu for today? |
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| 18:55.36 | fozzmoo | At this point, the biggest shock Jayce^ could have is returning to work to find NOTHING in his office. |
| 18:55.50 | fozzmoo | Or nothing different, rather. |
| 19:07.31 | goozbach | the anti-joke |
| 19:07.35 | goozbach | anti-prank rather |
| 19:07.42 | goozbach | just a lot of suspiious looks |
| 19:07.57 | goozbach | and muttered 'he hasn't found it yet's as he passes by |
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| 19:44.58 | youtah | but fozzmoo .... cora and I have figured out we're going to fill his office with balloon. btw, we need you to help us inflate them |
| 19:46.02 | fozzmoo | I've got plenty of hot air to spare. |
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| 20:04.10 | youtah | Perfect fozzmoo |
| 20:18.46 | jxqz | if /sbin/init weren't on a system, would that cause the kernel to not load the driver for the root fs? |
| 20:25.51 | jlp_znc | no |
| 20:26.08 | jlp_znc | drivers should be in the initrd |
| 20:26.37 | jlp_znc | how would it load the driver for the root fs if it needed the root fs (where /sbin/init is) to load drivers? |
| 20:33.30 | jxqz | it doesn't make sense, but that seems to be what is happening |
| 20:33.44 | youtah | Are you on Windows? |
| 20:33.47 | jxqz | actually, I'm talking about /sbin/init in the initrd |
| 20:33.54 | youtah | ducks |
| 20:33.56 | jxqz | ~initrd youtah |
| 20:34.09 | jxqz | s/initrd/initramfs/g |
| 20:34.32 | youtah | http://i.imgur.com/zLz8RNM.gif |
| 20:34.39 | jxqz | there is no init in the initramfs |
| 20:42.31 | eightyeight | /sbin/init != /boot/initrd.img |
| 20:43.29 | eightyeight | the root filesystem can still be mounted, even if /sbin/init does not exit |
| 20:43.51 | eightyeight | the fs driver can be statically compiled into the kernel, or loaded via /boot/initrd.img |
| 20:54.22 | jxqz | eightyeight: the initramfs (not initrd, those are sooo 2.6) does not contain an /sbin/init |
| 20:55.22 | jxqz | for some reason when /sbin/init is not there the rootfs doesn't get mounted because the kernel can't find the ahci driver |
| 20:57.11 | jxqz | for some reason redhat-influenced things still refer to it as 'initrd' although it is very clear from a minor amount of investigation that an initramfs is much superior to an initrd |
| 20:57.16 | jxqz | faster, simpler |
| 21:01.11 | harleypig | anyone know of a ssh based testing framework? I.e., run cli apps on a remote server via ssh and capturing and analyzing the output. |
| 21:03.27 | jxqz | salt? |
| 21:03.29 | jxqz | :) |
| 21:03.37 | goozbach | harleypig: I've written somethign like that in bash a while back |
| 21:03.42 | jxqz | I guess salt doesn't necessarily use salt though |
| 21:03.50 | goozbach | but I'd re-do it with ansible if I were to re-do it |
| 21:03.52 | jxqz | s/e salt/e ssh/ |
| 21:04.23 | harleypig | jxqz: it's got a ssh module though it's not very well s upported (in the sense the developers don't like it). |
| 21:04.59 | harleypig | goozbach: I'm hoping for a project that actually has the framework handled so all we have to do is create the tests. |
| 21:04.59 | eightyeight | initrd 2.6? huh |
| 21:05.11 | eightyeight | $ ls /boot/initrd.img-3.13-1-amd64 |
| 21:05.22 | harleypig | We have an in-house solution, but it's approaching it's second decade. |
| 21:06.09 | youtah | harleypig, that is EXACTLY what I was doing |
| 21:06.13 | youtah | at Fusion-io |
| 21:06.23 | youtah | I was using Python (paramiko) |
| 21:06.44 | youtah | but I did it from scratch, and made my own |
| 21:06.49 | jxqz | eightyeight: that's not an initrd |
| 21:06.53 | harleypig | this is a bastardization between perl 4, 5, bash and I'm pretty sure there's some ruby in there somewhere. |
| 21:06.54 | goozbach | it stores the output in TAP harness archive format |
| 21:07.04 | goozbach | harleypig: I'd use perl test and the TAP plugin for jenkins then |
| 21:07.05 | eightyeight | jxqz: i know. i don't understand your kernel 2.6 statement. |
| 21:07.12 | jxqz | if you're running after ~2.6.18 it's an initramfs |
| 21:07.13 | eightyeight | jxqz: i know what you're saying |
| 21:08.51 | jxqz | just recently got annoyed by paramiko |
| 21:09.01 | jxqz | is it time to just start using twisted? |
| 21:09.26 | eightyeight | the real root won't get mounted, because /etc/fstab won't be available |
| 21:09.42 | eightyeight | /etc/fstab won't be available, because / won't be mounted |
| 21:09.44 | eightyeight | :) |
| 21:10.43 | eightyeight | so, the initr{d,amfs} should contain the driver necessary for detecting / without /etc/fstab help, and should mount it ro |
| 21:10.58 | eightyeight | regardless if /sbin/init is missing or not |
| 21:11.24 | eightyeight | although, part of /sbin/init is to parse /etc/fstab |
| 21:12.43 | harleypig | goozbach: looking for the tap plugin for jenkins |
| 21:13.13 | goozbach | https://wiki.jenkins-ci.org/display/JENKINS/TAP+Plugin |
| 21:13.57 | goozbach | harleypig: my framework is as simple as adding a command to run |
| 21:15.55 | harleypig | Thanks. What we need to test is a little more complicated than that. E.g., if we want to test adding an ip we need to check the output of the cli app, then we need to check the config files and make sure the ip is responding from the correct server, etc. |
| 21:16.25 | goozbach | ahh |
| 21:22.56 | youtah | Telling ya |
| 21:23.01 | youtah | Python using Paramiko |
| 21:23.12 | youtah | harleypig, do this.... http://i.imgur.com/4X8GFKh.gif |
| 21:23.28 | jlp_znc | youtah did some cool stuff with paramiko at fusion. I saw it. it worked. |
| 21:23.34 | harleypig | ... |
| 21:23.36 | harleypig | woah |
| 21:23.45 | harleypig | that blew my mind for some reason |
| 21:23.50 | youtah | LOL |
| 21:24.02 | youtah | Python with Paramiko = Awesome sauce |
| 21:24.19 | harleypig | I think it was the languid blink at the end |
| 21:27.36 | youtah | http://usvsth3m.com/post/89368401033/blow-gently-on-your-screen-for-surprisingly-pleasing |
| 21:37.14 | jxqz | you don't need /etc/fstab if you can tell the kernel on its cmdline what the major/minor of the root dev are |
| 21:40.06 | jxqz | wait |
| 21:40.23 | jxqz | maybe it's the presence of /sbin/init in the initramfs and it's not supposed to be ther |
| 21:40.26 | jxqz | e |
| 21:40.36 | jxqz | and then init is trying to init the system |
| 21:40.51 | jxqz | but failing |
| 21:40.57 | jxqz | gives up |
| 21:41.20 | jxqz | this shell junk is making me crazy |
| 21:52.43 | harleypig | youtah: the nicolas cage is the best! |
| 21:53.18 | jlp_znc | what kind of cage is it? it's a nicholas cage! |
| 21:53.53 | jlp_znc | I don't know why that popped into my head. brain is lost in cfg2, I guess. |
| 21:55.37 | youtah | lol |
| 21:57.20 | jlp_znc | I'm upgrading java 7 -> java 8 in our test environment today for all of the products that I maintain. |
| 21:57.32 | jlp_znc | still learning how all the bits and pieces fit together. |
| 21:58.12 | jlp_znc | it's pretty cool, but I can't help the feeling that a lot of this stuff could be streamlined. of course, I don't have the big picture, either. |
| 22:08.39 | youtah | I know the feeling jlp_znc |
| 22:08.45 | youtah | so many bits, so stuck together |
| 22:08.48 | youtah | everywhere |
| 22:09.29 | *** join/#utah CrowderSoup (~CrowderSo@50-204-66-16-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net) |
| 22:26.47 | jlp_znc | dremex_work: http://purecitycycles.com/collections/pure-city-dutchi-bikes/products/the-langdon <- these are the new bikes LinkedIn is getting |
| 22:41.16 | dremex_work | classy |
| 22:41.27 | dremex_work | single or triple speed? |
| 22:41.32 | jlp_znc | 3-speed |
| 22:41.49 | jlp_znc | our old ones are Electras and they are in terrible shape |
| 22:42.07 | dremex_work | Do they check them out to employees or how does that work? |
| 22:42.26 | jlp_znc | they have a pile of them out in front of the buildings. you walk up and get on one and ride away. :-) |
| 22:42.40 | jlp_znc | we have helmets on a rack inside the lobbies, too. |
| 22:42.52 | jlp_znc | in case you don't have your own |
| 22:43.57 | dremex_work | Nice |
| 22:44.14 | jlp_znc | there are also a bunch of google bikes around |
| 22:45.04 | jlp_znc | one of the guys I lunch with said he actually saw a google bike down in santa cruz one weekend... just sitting on the side of the street. |
| 22:45.05 | jxqz | that's how they get you |
| 22:45.20 | jxqz | the copany starts giving out stuff and before you know it you're owned by the company |
| 22:45.38 | jlp_znc | jxqz: as long as they are giving out money, I'm good. |
| 22:45.45 | jlp_znc | "I like money." |
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| 22:50.36 | dremex_work | I think you guys should have gone with a fixy though |
| 22:50.36 | dremex_work | http://www.purefixcycles.com/products/the-golf |
| 22:52.00 | dremex_work | ^^ you can swap it between a single and fixy |
| 22:53.05 | jlp_znc | you just like the orange wheels |
| 22:53.53 | jlp_znc | our old electras are single speed. I guess some people were concerned about hills. |
| 23:41.26 | harleypig | Anyone know of a bike shop in Utah Valley that has a recumbent bike for fatties? |
| 23:42.44 | harleypig | Googling for 'recumbent bike for fatties' provides links for ar15, 4chan and other less than helpful for this purpose sites. But the posts are funny. |
| 23:42.56 | jlp_znc | :-) |
| 23:43.29 | jlp_znc | I suggest googling for "bike shop utah valley" and then calling them and asking your question |
| 23:45.20 | harleypig | Gah ... http://www.utahtrikes.com/ ... if these are the standard I'm going to be in trouble ... they're *WAY* to close to the ground. |
| 23:45.40 | harleypig | jlp_znc: yeah, but I was hoping someone had some pointers before I started down the blind calling path. |
| 23:54.56 | harleypig | meh ... this is harder than I expected, and I can't afford the $1K+ I would be looking at anyway ... *sigh* Why can't someone just give me a million bucks? |
| 23:56.10 | jlp_znc | http://www.utahtrikes.com/PROD-11618204.html |
| 23:56.41 | jlp_znc | then you can hook on a shopping cart to the back to carry your aluminum cans |
