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| 16:28.40 | infobot | schweet. |
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| 16:51.09 | infobot | flings poo at dremex_work |
| 16:51.25 | jlp_znc | ahh, dremex_work |
| 16:51.37 | jlp_znc | beams proudly |
| 16:51.41 | dremex_work | o.O |
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| 16:52.31 | jlp_znc | so, dremex_work, I got to the airport, checked my bag and was told "hmmm, since it's less than 45 minutes before your flight, we can't guarantee that your bag will get on the plane with you" |
| 16:52.38 | jlp_znc | it was 43 minutes before my flight |
| 16:52.52 | youtah | you end up mailing it? |
| 16:52.59 | jlp_znc | then I looked at the line for security. it stretched all the way to the baggage claim carousels |
| 16:53.10 | jlp_znc | (no, youtah, it did make it on the plane) |
| 16:53.18 | youtah | but you didn't? |
| 16:53.30 | jlp_znc | so I hoofed it over to terminal 2 to go through security there. much shorter line, but it still took 20 minutes |
| 16:53.42 | youtah | oh man |
| 16:53.53 | jlp_znc | I was walking down the concourse when they announced that my flight was boarding. of course, my gate was at the very end of the concourse |
| 16:54.21 | jlp_znc | I walked up, observed that the B group was lined up, and got in line seconds before they had our group board. perfect timing. |
| 16:54.34 | dremex_work | Nice |
| 16:54.39 | youtah | *phew* |
| 16:54.46 | dremex_work | Odd that the security line was that long for a Sunday morning |
| 16:55.01 | jlp_znc | we actually were completely boarded and pushed back about five minutes early |
| 16:55.14 | youtah | is Terminal 2 the International? |
| 16:55.18 | jlp_znc | it was crazy long. |
| 16:55.22 | jlp_znc | no, terminal 2 is delta |
| 16:55.29 | youtah | ah |
| 16:55.32 | jlp_znc | I was flying on southwest |
| 16:55.35 | youtah | I know a lot of my friends will go over to the international because there is never a line |
| 16:55.43 | youtah | and then they'll walk back over |
| 16:55.49 | jlp_znc | international terminal security isn't open that early in the morning |
| 16:55.54 | youtah | :( |
| 16:55.56 | jlp_znc | I don't think it opens until 10:00 |
| 16:57.09 | jlp_znc | vegas was typical vegas. I had breakfast at popeyes (buscuit and gravy, yum) and easily made my connection. |
| 17:01.32 | shalkie | It closes by 10. |
| 17:01.44 | shalkie | It has a strange set of hours. |
| 17:04.08 | shalkie | Security is always a crap shoot. There are times where the delta line has gone across the skywalk and back. |
| 17:04.32 | shalkie | If I am in a hurry there is usually one of the SLC Airport staff with a radio and I will ask them. |
| 17:04.36 | jlp_znc | shalkie: yeah, it seems, though, that the terminal 1 and terminal 2 busy times do not overlap |
| 17:04.45 | shalkie | Generally. |
| 17:05.06 | shalkie | There have been a couple of occasions where I have found all three to be busy. |
| 17:07.05 | shalkie | Frankly the very best thing I have found is to use the TSA Pre Check. |
| 17:07.25 | shalkie | I hate the random nature of it though. |
| 17:07.27 | shalkie | :( |
| 17:07.28 | jlp_znc | I just hate the idea of paying them |
| 17:07.55 | shalkie | Yeah, I won't pay for it since it only "increases" my odds of selection. |
| 17:08.57 | shalkie | So in the meantime I try to stay with one airline and get a frequent flyer status or I just hope I get selected through "managed inclusion". |
| 17:09.13 | jlp_znc | it might be worth it to me as I'm flying back and forth to SLC a lot lately, but I just hate the idea of paying them. :-/ |
| 17:09.42 | shalkie | Which is when you go through checkin you might get randomly selected or when you go through the line and the agent hits his ipad you get directed left or right (one way being standard and the other being pre-check). |
| 17:10.27 | shalkie | jlp_znc: Do you have the "trusted traveler" or Global entry thingy from CBP? |
| 17:10.40 | jlp_znc | no, don't know what that is |
| 17:11.23 | jlp_znc | I have been routed through the pre check line (standard metal detector, don't need to take your shoes off, etc.) a couple of times |
| 17:11.40 | jlp_znc | once I had to have my hands swabbed to get there, though. |
| 17:11.59 | shalkie | Do you do a lot of international travel? |
| 17:12.22 | jlp_znc | I never travel internationally. my last international trip was in 1966 when I came to the USA |
| 17:12.30 | jlp_znc | I was 2 years old :-) |
| 17:14.22 | shalkie | Ah, well that is a good reason to avoid the hassel of joining those programs. |
| 17:14.54 | jlp_znc | nearly all of my travel is personal |
| 17:15.19 | jlp_znc | since I'm living in california, but my family is still in utah, I find I |
| 17:15.28 | jlp_znc | am making a lot of trips back and forth |
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| 17:23.30 | shalkie | I work hard to stay with Delta for flights at least partially because I get pre-check. |
| 17:24.26 | youtah | I need a Unity/Compiz replacement |
| 17:24.35 | youtah | curses compiz |
| 17:24.49 | fozzmoo | hands youtah a Fedora DVD |
| 17:24.55 | youtah | lol |
| 17:24.58 | youtah | yuck too |
| 17:25.22 | youtah | Maybe I should have stuck with a standard Debian install |
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| 17:37.45 | shalkie | Ah! The rise of the machine has begun with infobot! |
| 17:42.06 | eightyeight | ~lart shalkie for shits and giggles |
| 17:42.06 | infobot | blasts shalkie to oblivion with a kamehameha wave for shits and giggles |
| 17:43.17 | jlp_znc | youtah use metacity instead of compiz |
| 17:45.44 | youtah | not sure it comes with 14.04 |
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| 19:47.58 | sjansen | CentOS 7! |
| 19:48.05 | fozzmoo | \o/ |
| 19:48.07 | sjansen | is so excited he might pee himself |
| 19:48.16 | fozzmoo | is so excited, he might pee on sjansen |
| 19:48.21 | jlp_znc | TMI |
| 19:48.46 | jlp_znc | has much less interest in pee since my kids got past the diaper stage |
| 19:49.45 | eightyeight | is it released? i thought it was just a release candidate |
| 19:49.52 | eightyeight | re: centos 7 |
| 19:50.14 | eightyeight | http://seven.centos.org/ answers that |
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| 19:50.53 | eightyeight | needs to get his torrent seeds going |
| 19:52.05 | eightyeight | it will be interesting teaching it this fall |
| 20:02.11 | eightyeight | ah. how cute |
| 20:02.17 | eightyeight | centos 7 released on 07/07 |
| 20:02.32 | fozzmoo | It's like Styx's release of The Grand Illusion all over again. |
| 20:06.09 | fozzmoo | A former client of mine from years ago just texted me saying he's looking to hire a permanent system/network admin in the Holladay area. If you or someone you know is interesting, PM me. |
| 20:09.30 | jxqz | no one is available in that area because they're all on holiday |
| 20:10.04 | fozzmoo | slaps knee |
| 20:10.15 | fozzmoo | installs CentOS 7 in a VM |
| 20:10.21 | RyanE | that one is less knee-slapper, more face-slapper. |
| 20:10.31 | jlp_znc | I know lots of interesting people in that area, but I don't know that they would be interested |
| 20:10.58 | fozzmoo | slaps self |
| 20:11.12 | eightyeight | ~slap fozzmoo |
| 20:11.12 | infobot | ACTION slaps fozzmoo, keep your grubby fingers to yourself! |
| 20:11.25 | eightyeight | ~whaleslap jxqz |
| 20:11.25 | infobot | ACTION beats jxqz upside and over the head with a freakishly huge killer whale named Hugh |
| 20:13.25 | youtah | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r8gVgOV-G6Y&feature=kp |
| 20:23.02 | goozbach | my internet failed before my torrent finished :( |
| 20:23.14 | goozbach | hopefully it's come back online and will finish tonight |
| 20:23.29 | youtah | Witch craft https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Z5k9nWcuFc |
| 20:24.04 | fozzmoo | goozbach: :( |
| 20:24.49 | fozzmoo | youtah: One of the biggest challenges in our lives? |
| 20:25.29 | youtah | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Snph22qSUMU |
| 20:26.11 | youtah | such good editing |
| 20:26.15 | fozzmoo | Like anything you learn, it might feel awkward at first. |
| 20:26.31 | youtah | ^ |
| 20:26.46 | youtah | fozzmoo do you have any magnets? |
| 20:26.53 | fozzmoo | At work? |
| 20:26.58 | youtah | yes |
| 20:27.14 | fozzmoo | I have two, but they're currently holding up my Gadsden Flag. |
| 20:27.22 | youtah | dang |
| 20:27.32 | youtah | I have a UofU flag I would like to hang |
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| 20:31.36 | Oberon4278 | So, as far as universities inside of Utah go, where does USU land? |
| 20:31.43 | Oberon4278 | My friend is going there and I don't know anything about it. |
| 20:31.44 | RyanE | north-ish |
| 20:31.47 | RyanE | :) |
| 20:31.55 | Oberon4278 | Seriously? |
| 20:32.02 | Oberon4278 | The S doesn't stand for "south"? |
| 20:32.09 | eightyeight | "State" |
| 20:32.13 | Oberon4278 | ahhhh |
| 20:32.15 | eightyeight | Utah State University |
| 20:32.18 | eightyeight | it's in logan |
| 20:32.21 | RyanE | there's this thing called Google... |
| 20:32.31 | fozzmoo | heh. |
| 20:32.39 | Oberon4278 | yeah and it has college rankings |
| 20:32.41 | fozzmoo | What does your friend want to study? |
| 20:32.48 | Oberon4278 | MRS ;) |
| 20:32.55 | Oberon4278 | but they're at the national level |
| 20:33.01 | RyanE | wants to study married ladies? |
| 20:33.03 | Oberon4278 | and I don't want to pick through for Utah schools and then compare them |
| 20:33.11 | Oberon4278 | my friend is a she |
| 20:33.16 | RyanE | ah |
| 20:33.24 | goozbach | I repeat my question from earler, I need to find a single-family rental in utah county or south end of salt lake |
| 20:33.28 | RyanE | I'm sure there are plenty of marriageable people there. |
| 20:33.29 | eightyeight | women can't study other women? |
| 20:33.30 | goozbach | any suggestions? |
| 20:33.31 | eightyeight | o.0 |
| 20:33.46 | fozzmoo | goozbach: That shouldn't be too hard. |
| 20:33.50 | eightyeight | stops playing devil's advocate |
| 20:34.08 | Oberon4278 | goozbach: I'm in Boston, so I can't help, I'm sorry. |
| 20:34.22 | youtah | goozbach, my neighborhood is FULL of rentals |
| 20:34.27 | youtah | and it is about a 20 minute drive |
| 20:34.28 | fozzmoo | ^^ |
| 20:34.33 | fozzmoo | Quite a few in mine as well. |
| 20:34.49 | youtah | and we have Fiber Optics to house in Traverse Mountain |
| 20:34.51 | youtah | just sayin' |
| 20:34.53 | fozzmoo | http://www.propertypond.com/ |
| 20:36.37 | eightyeight | better not be utopia |
| 20:36.40 | eightyeight | i hear they're the devli |
| 20:36.42 | eightyeight | s/li/il/ |
| 20:36.44 | eightyeight | or, something |
| 20:38.02 | youtah | Not Utopia |
| 20:38.05 | youtah | but I wouldn't mind |
| 20:38.12 | goozbach | youtah: address? |
| 20:38.47 | fozzmoo | 84043 |
| 20:38.56 | fozzmoo | My zip is 84096 |
| 20:39.00 | youtah | ^ |
| 20:39.05 | youtah | Sent ya aPM too Derek |
| 20:39.09 | youtah | Errrr, goozbach |
| 20:39.41 | fozzmoo | gasps |
| 20:39.45 | youtah | LOL |
| 20:40.06 | fozzmoo | Man, PropertyPond results are kinda thin. |
| 20:40.38 | fozzmoo | http://www.zillow.com/homes/84096_rb/ |
| 20:44.59 | jxqz | 84096.zip? |
| 20:47.09 | Oberon4278 | fozzmoo: Could you say that their pool is a bit shallow? |
| 20:48.35 | fozzmoo | Oberon4278: Yeah, that would be a good (and punny) assessment. :) |
| 20:53.12 | sjansen | IIRC, fozzmoo studied at USU. That alone is a good reason to avoid it. |
| 20:53.20 | youtah | THIS COMPUTER RUNS SO MUCH FASTER now that I got rid of compiz and am now running metacity |
| 20:54.25 | eightyeight | run a tiling window manager, and you'll be even more amazed |
| 20:54.37 | jlp_znc | snorts |
| 20:54.43 | sjansen | (To be fair, I've gotten the impression that USU's CS program is actually pretty decent. But I don't know about any other dept. and my information is pretty dated.) |
| 20:54.52 | fozzmoo | This is perl 5, version 16, subversion 3 (v5.16.3) built for x86_64-linux-thread-multi |
| 20:55.00 | youtah | http://www.theguardian.com/world/2008/jul/24/russia.wildlife |
| 20:55.02 | fozzmoo | (from CentOS 7) |
| 20:56.05 | fozzmoo | heh. USU's CS program was (10+ years ago) a nice balance of theory and practical applications. A lot more theory than, say, Weber State or UVSC. |
| 20:56.10 | fozzmoo | Maybe not as much as UofU |
| 20:56.35 | youtah | I think that's one thing I didn't like about the UofU program |
| 20:56.39 | youtah | is that it was almost all theory |
| 20:56.50 | youtah | there was very little practical application, etc |
| 20:57.16 | youtah | I would have liked a more balanced program |
| 20:57.21 | fozzmoo | UVU |
| 20:57.32 | fozzmoo | UVU's program seems a lot better than it used to be. |
| 20:58.12 | fozzmoo | I was telling my wife this weekend that I wonder if I'd be a better student now if I went back to school than I was when I was in school. |
| 20:58.26 | fozzmoo | I really should find out. |
| 20:58.28 | eightyeight | i keep trying to tell my brother he won't like the UU CS program |
| 20:58.30 | youtah | ^ |
| 20:58.34 | eightyeight | but he's hell-bent on getting in anyway |
| 20:58.49 | eightyeight | i've made bets with my wife he drops out after the first year |
| 20:58.55 | Oberon4278 | I think I would definitely be a better student now than I was the first time around. But that's mostly because it would take consistent effort to be worse. |
| 20:59.13 | Oberon4278 | +eightyeight: Why? |
| 21:00.16 | eightyeight | i love my brother, but he's not the sharpest crayon in the box |
| 21:00.26 | eightyeight | he's not an analytical/abstract thinker |
| 21:00.59 | Oberon4278 | ah ok |
| 21:01.06 | eightyeight | i think WSU would be a better fit for him, but he views it as "harrison high", and he's not far off. :) |
| 21:01.13 | youtah | I'll take you up on that bet eightyeight |
| 21:01.16 | youtah | for one m&m |
| 21:01.25 | eightyeight | red |
| 21:01.30 | youtah | deal |
| 21:01.37 | eightyeight | :) |
| 21:01.41 | youtah | AFK |
| 21:02.29 | eightyeight | i just think he's jumping into a den of lions, without the slightest understanding of what awaits, or what will be required of him to stay alive |
| 21:02.39 | eightyeight | my wife thinks he can pull it off |
| 21:02.41 | eightyeight | shrug |
| 21:14.00 | jxqz | UU sold out to the lisp isolated worldview many years ago |
| 21:14.07 | jxqz | and then they sold out to java(R) |
| 21:14.13 | jxqz | just like everybody else |
| 21:14.43 | fozzmoo | When I was in CS at USU, I did Pascal and C/C++. Caught a little Java at the tail end. |
| 21:14.53 | jxqz | java: the preferred language of marketers |
| 21:15.05 | RyanE | CS at BYU was Pascal/C/Assembly |
| 21:15.06 | fozzmoo | java: the preferred language of whiteboard manufacturers |
| 21:15.08 | RyanE | back in the day |
| 21:15.22 | RyanE | missed the Java completely. Fortunately. |
| 21:15.44 | fozzmoo | Java is a nice language to study. Not so much to code in. |
| 21:15.45 | jxqz | yeah, writing 'public static vapid fozzmoo' everywhere has got to wear out markers quite fast |
| 21:15.56 | jlp_znc | I think my language path went something like Pascal, Fortran, assembly, Modula-2, C |
| 21:16.18 | jlp_znc | java didn't exist, and C++ was too new for anyone to even consider using |
| 21:16.20 | RyanE | Apple ][ Basic, Pascal, 6502 Assembly, C |
| 21:16.28 | RyanE | (some other crap) |
| 21:16.29 | RyanE | Lua |
| 21:16.31 | RyanE | :) |
| 21:16.59 | jxqz | until the c++11 standard, c++ has been too unusable for anyone to even consider using |
| 21:17.31 | sodaplayer | What's your guys' take on the rising popularity of functional languages? |
| 21:18.07 | RyanE | my cynical take? Hope it doesn't get so popular I have to care about it before I retire. :) |
| 21:18.21 | RyanE | j/k. Don't have a lot of experience in it, though. |
| 21:18.29 | fungus | ~troll jxqz |
| 21:18.30 | infobot | ACTION hereby declares jxqz a troll |
| 21:19.15 | Oberon4278 | When *I* was a kid! |
| 21:19.51 | Oberon4278 | We studied C as freshmen, because CS 101 was a filter and if you couldn't hack linked lists you didn't deserve to fight in my beloved Corps! |
| 21:22.02 | fozzmoo | :) |
| 21:28.54 | romanovic | I view the WSU CS program as, learn how to develop business applications, thorough understanding of computer systems on a low level not essential. |
| 21:29.38 | unum | does anyone know how the computer related programs at the applied technology centers are? |
| 21:30.36 | unum | looking at the languages used by many of you I'd say you have atleast a decade on me |
| 21:30.38 | romanovic | I've only experienced the U of U CS program, so I could be way off. but I was always surprised that coworkers who graduated from WSU seemed to have knowledge exclusively with MS |
| 21:31.07 | unum | USU was transitioning to visual studios when I left |
| 21:31.17 | romanovic | unum: from what? |
| 21:31.17 | fozzmoo | romanovic: I remember my bro-in-law took a "computer architecture" class at WSU and they learned how to put a PC together. |
| 21:31.24 | unum | the early programs required everything in visual studios |
| 21:31.49 | unum | romanovic: they were using builder when I started but seemed to allow what ever you wanted to use personally |
| 21:31.53 | joshh_ | cs1010 or whatever the number was at SLCC ~10 years ago was about microsoft office |
| 21:32.01 | unum | but the curriculmn was becoming more centered around visual studios |
| 21:32.16 | unum | though they still require a semester of linux/gcc |
| 21:32.28 | unum | but it's all together so it's not very in depth |
| 21:32.42 | unum | actually I think we even used kylix for an assignment |
| 21:32.47 | jxqz | the token acknowledge linux exists semester |
| 21:33.00 | jxqz | slcc is a joke |
| 21:33.10 | joshh_ | ya |
| 21:33.15 | joshh_ | i didn't even bother finishing there |
| 21:33.35 | joshh_ | though at the time, the cs class was an elective |
| 21:33.59 | joshh_ | i had enjoyable US history and astronomy classes there, but the rest sucked |
| 21:34.05 | Oberon4278 | I remember going to BYU's CS department |
| 21:34.05 | joshh_ | actually, the english teacher was funny too |
| 21:34.07 | unum | I remember explaining cd to another student, and I said just like DOS, and she said she had never used DOS |
| 21:34.26 | unum | and I realized I really should have graduated from college by then |
| 21:34.40 | Oberon4278 | I started at the U of Minnesota, which had several rooms full of SPARCStations and Silicon Graphics machines |
| 21:34.54 | Oberon4278 | you could just walk in and use one |
| 21:35.00 | unum | USU used to have those, they also had HPUX machines |
| 21:35.12 | Oberon4278 | except maybe around finals time, when the labs could get full, but then you could just log in remotely |
| 21:35.32 | Oberon4278 | so I get to BYU and I'm like "So where's the lab?" and someone points me to a room full of ancient machines running Windows |
| 21:35.44 | Oberon4278 | and I go "No like, where are the Unix machines?" |
| 21:35.49 | unum | so before there was a linux class there was an HPUX term and programming in HPUX term |
| 21:36.08 | Oberon4278 | "Oh, I think a professor upstairs has one, but only grad students get to use it." |
| 21:36.26 | Oberon4278 | That was about when I left BYU. |
| 21:36.50 | joshh_ | byu has no unix? but it has those sysadmins who post to plug, and the UUG and stuff |
| 21:36.57 | joshh_ | wtf |
| 21:37.11 | RyanE | BYU had tons of unix when I was there. |
| 21:37.20 | RyanE | but I graduated in '93. |
| 21:37.36 | Oberon4278 | I was there later than that |
| 21:37.38 | unum | at on point my friend and I(mostly him) were maintaining the linux lab as volunteers, and he was enrolled in the linux class, all the other students thought he was the TA since the instructor had to ask him to configure the lab for the assignments |
| 21:37.40 | Oberon4278 | so maybe I was just asking the wrong people |
| 21:37.41 | RyanE | I saw Unix there a year or two ago. |
| 21:38.04 | RyanE | "I know this, this is Unix!" :) |
| 21:38.22 | programmerq | the cs department runs linux in many labs |
| 21:38.24 | unum | well there's a difference between having unix admins and having on open unix lab |
| 21:38.52 | Oberon4278 | Mostly though, I just wish I'd appreciated what I had at the U of MN. |
| 21:38.53 | romanovic | That's what I liked about UofU too - labs full of linux machines, and the introductory classes required us to be familiar with them, and submit our homework in from the command line |
| 21:38.57 | programmerq | and when I was there (2007) the engineering building had a healthy mix of linux, hpux, and possibly a few other unixes. |
| 21:39.06 | programmerq | I worked for the CS dept |
| 21:39.14 | programmerq | we were definitely a linux shop first. |
| 21:39.19 | jxqz | linux is still the divisor between people who use computers, and people who will eventually know what they're doing |
| 21:41.01 | Q_Continuum | Oberon4278: I'm two steps removed from one of the creators/developers of Gopher. (Guy I used to live with is friends with/lived with one of them) |
| 21:41.28 | Q_Continuum | Oberon4278: U of MN still does a lot of Linux/Unix/etc |
| 21:42.47 | Oberon4278 | Last I checked, Q_Continuum, they also still run a major hub in the midwest. |
| 21:44.03 | Q_Continuum | They do. |
| 21:45.53 | Q_Continuum | is from MN, moved to UT for job little over 2 years ago |
| 21:47.00 | sjansen | My first experience with Unix was CDE on HPUX in one of the BYU CS labs. |
| 21:47.24 | Oberon4278 | Q_Continuum: What part? I grew up in St. Paul, right between Como Park and the Fairgrounds. |
| 21:47.29 | sjansen | Also spent some time on the Solaris boxen, but had to walk farther to reach them. |
| 21:47.50 | sjansen | When I left it was all Linux, with a couple token Windows rooms. |
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| 21:49.39 | sjansen | Of course, I think they're all limited to CS students. |
| 21:50.08 | sjansen | If you're talking about BYU OIT instead of the CS department, yes all the labs are Windows. |
| 21:51.00 | Q_Continuum | Oberon4278: I was up north of Coon Rapids. Somehow I think we've discussed this before. |
| 21:57.17 | jlp_znc | yes, you have |
| 21:57.32 | jlp_znc | I also lived in MN ... in Duluth |
| 21:57.33 | levi | When I started at BYU, any student could get a VMS account, IIRC. |
| 22:04.45 | shalkie | When I went to WSU I had a class that required a VMS account. |
| 22:04.49 | shalkie | I hated it. |
| 22:05.17 | shalkie | I just rolled my eyes and continued to use my FreeBSD installation. |
| 22:16.52 | RyanE | yeah, we could get VMS/Ultrix accounts. |
| 22:21.05 | jxqz | I had an english class that required MLA format |
| 22:21.15 | jxqz | I just rolled my eyes and used a LaTeX class |
| 22:21.37 | jxqz | every one of my essay's formatting was perfect though |
| 22:21.53 | jxqz | s/class/style/ |
| 22:21.59 | jxqz | or whatever it was |
| 22:22.28 | jlp_znc | that's the beauty of LaTeX, and TeX in general, isn't it? |
| 22:22.36 | jlp_znc | you don't care about the style, you just write the text. |
| 22:22.47 | jlp_znc | let the damn library worry about the layout |
| 22:22.52 | jxqz | the professer never knew I wasn't using M$ w0rd |
| 22:23.06 | jlp_znc | even though things were kerned correctly? :-) |
| 22:23.33 | sodaplayer | xD |
| 22:23.53 | jxqz | he didn't engage in such optical scrutiny to my knowledge |
| 22:26.17 | jxqz | although it being UVSC and their English department, I'm sure that if they found out my kerning was perfect, they'd have me arrested for plagiarism by the FBI |
| 22:26.42 | jlp_znc | :-D |
| 22:28.08 | jxqz | UVSC always wanted to be known for their famous over reacting |
| 22:28.18 | jxqz | I'm guessing that that has not changed |
| 22:29.49 | jxqz | it was a very totalitarian place when I was there |
| 22:30.23 | jxqz | you could tell who was weak minded by how they conformed |
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| 22:39.12 | shalkie | On that note: http://imgur.com/r/TheSimpsons/dsMimzL |
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