| 00:02.46 | shalkie | davido_: In South Salt Lake? Hmmmm... So many choices. I like The New Ho Ho Gourmet, but the Red Ginger is supposedly really good. |
| 00:02.48 | shalkie | http://www.urbanspoon.com/r/54/1483467/restaurant/South-Salt-Lake/Red-Ginger-Bistro-Salt-Lake-City |
| 00:03.11 | davido_ | Haven't heard of Red Ginger. Is the "new ho ho" the one on State? |
| 00:03.55 | shalkie | If your thinking around 17th south, it is the first. The New Ho Ho is off 33rd. |
| 00:04.29 | shalkie | But if your around 21st and looking for curry, there is Curry In A Hurry just north of 21st on State st. |
| 00:04.41 | shalkie | Pats BBQ if your looking for good BBQ. |
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| 00:05.15 | shalkie | http://www.yelp.com/biz/pats-bar-b-que-salt-lake-city |
| 00:05.34 | shalkie | Oh, Curry in a Hurry is Pakistani. |
| 00:05.44 | shalkie | davido_: Does that help ya out? |
| 00:05.54 | davido_ | Yes, it does. Thanks shalkie. |
| 00:06.13 | davido_ | By the way, that reminds me, there's a great himalayan place on about 350 south Main. |
| 00:07.03 | davido_ | I'm in Sandy at 96th and 26th east, but we're accustomed to having to drive a little if we want something interesting. |
| 00:07.26 | shalkie | What are you looking for? |
| 00:08.09 | shalkie | used to live down in Murray. |
| 00:08.09 | davido_ | I never know what I'm looking for until my wife tells me what I should be looking for (j/k). ...which is why it's good to have a few suggestions, so thanks! :) |
| 00:08.53 | shalkie | Ah! Well your welcome. :) |
| 00:10.00 | shalkie | There is a good indian place on state just north of 90th south: http://www.yelp.com/biz/india-house-sandy |
| 00:12.20 | davido_ | By the way: stevecoug recommended Bam Bam for BBQ once when I was in Utah County, and I am almost afraid to go anywhere else now because it will almost certainly be a letdown. |
| 00:13.45 | shalkie | davido_: Ah, but was it featured on Diners, Drive-ins and dives? http://www.foodnetwork.com/restaurants/ut/salt-lake-city/pats-bbq-restaurant.html |
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| 02:26.12 | harleypig | Is there a way to list files in a directory that were not installed by an rpm package? |
| 02:33.39 | harleypig | well, this is a clumsy way to do it: find /dir | sort -u > local.files ; rpm -qal | grep '^/dir' | sort -u > rpm.files ; diff -u rpm.files local.files ... the files with a plus are not managed by rpm. |
| 02:44.46 | harleypig | huh ... looks like I don't need that grep |
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| 14:37.04 | goozbach | http://hackedgadgets.com/2012/06/16/gir-robot-build/#section1 |
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| 15:35.11 | opapo | I just found out that Red Hat just bought CentOS |
| 15:35.27 | opapo | I've been out of the loop for a while |
| 15:36.32 | eightyeight | more like 'join forces' rather than 'bought' |
| 15:37.04 | opapo | What I heard is that we can't install CentOS without a license. |
| 15:37.42 | opapo | maybe not can't, but we have chosen to do so, I don't know the details |
| 15:38.11 | eightyeight | ? |
| 15:38.27 | eightyeight | centos hasn't change licensing or access to the platform |
| 15:38.55 | eightyeight | only that the build servers have been brought in house under red hat's roof, and red hat employees are paid to help with development of the project |
| 15:39.09 | eightyeight | and, as with fedora, is officially sponsored now |
| 15:39.11 | opapo | I was just told our infrastructure group hasn't installed CentOS because "they haven't gotten the license yet" |
| 15:39.35 | eightyeight | they're misinformed then |
| 15:39.46 | opapo | it wouldn't be a first |
| 15:40.02 | goozbach | opapo: that's about as wrong as it can be |
| 15:40.33 | goozbach | nothings really changed except who's paying jim, kanibir, and the rest of the core centos team |
| 15:40.33 | opapo | goozbach: I'm glad someone else sees it that way |
| 15:40.44 | opapo | It may be that they are getting a support contract |
| 15:41.20 | opapo | what happened to GoOSE linux and the other one? |
| 15:42.54 | eightyeight | opapo: companies using centos won't get official support from red hat |
| 15:43.03 | eightyeight | just as if they were using fedora on their desktops |
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| 15:45.43 | opapo | What would they pay for if they want to use CentOS? |
| 15:46.02 | eightyeight | what would who pay? |
| 15:46.10 | opapo | I'm trying to figure them out, but maybe I'm appling logic to an illogical situation |
| 15:46.19 | eightyeight | centos is as free as it's always been |
| 15:46.27 | eightyeight | nothing in that regard has changed |
| 15:46.42 | opapo | I don't get what my Infrastructure group would pay for |
| 15:47.07 | eightyeight | i guess you could pay a 3rd party consulting group/person for centos support |
| 15:47.19 | eightyeight | if you don't have the technical expertise in house |
| 15:47.24 | eightyeight | https://www.centos.org/download/ |
| 15:47.43 | goozbach | opapo: gooselinux is in limbo, we tried to move some of the infra to the openwest org, but I don't think that went well |
| 15:47.47 | eightyeight | http://mirrors.xmission.com/centos/ |
| 15:48.29 | opapo | eightyeight: Sometimes I shouldn't ask why. I get less frustrated that way |
| 15:48.41 | eightyeight | nothing has change |
| 15:48.46 | opapo | goozbach: what was the other group you were in talks with? |
| 15:48.49 | eightyeight | s/change/changed/ |
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| 16:22.58 | jxqz | ~napoleon goozbach |
| 16:22.59 | infobot | ACTION takes goozbach's girlfriend to the mall for glamor shots |
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| 16:51.24 | harleypig | Is there a way to make yum provides use a queryformat? or, conversely, a way to find the same information using rpm? |
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| 16:55.10 | harleypig | nm, found it: repoquery --whatprovides '/path/to/file' -qf 'format string' |
| 16:55.35 | jxqz | eightyeight: what is the magic incantation that makes chromium *not* highlight an item in the suggestions list when you want to enter a direct url into the url text field? |
| 16:56.51 | jlp_znc | bmurdock: http://hamgear.wordpress.com/2013/08/13/hf-transceiver-for-under-400-kn-920/ |
| 16:57.05 | eightyeight | jxqz: so, when typing urls, you don't want it providing suggestions, based on your previous browsing history? |
| 16:58.06 | eightyeight | if so, that's in the privacy settings |
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| 16:58.42 | jxqz | eightyeight: that is unacceptable |
| 16:59.02 | jxqz | I don't mind it providing suggestions, I just don't want it to force me to pick one of them |
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| 16:59.49 | eightyeight | 'force you'? you mean you can't hit <Enter> to enter your url? |
| 16:59.59 | jxqz | no |
| 17:00.04 | eightyeight | i'm not following |
| 17:00.08 | jxqz | that doesn't work |
| 17:00.28 | eightyeight | i don't see how you're forced to pick a suggestion |
| 17:00.32 | jxqz | maybe its because you're mind has already been subverted by the chromium groupthink |
| 17:00.45 | jlp_znc | good lord, you guys are still going at it!? |
| 17:00.49 | eightyeight | i'm trying to understand your technical issue |
| 17:01.10 | eightyeight | jlp_znc: he asked a technical question, looking for support. not allowed here? |
| 17:01.27 | jlp_znc | I'm just amused... talk about whatever you like :-) |
| 17:01.43 | jlp_znc | I'm familiar with the behavior he describes |
| 17:02.01 | eightyeight | can you describe it? because i don't understand the question. |
| 17:02.17 | jxqz | chromium is just one big UI fail and I'm forced to use it :( |
| 17:02.28 | jlp_znc | so, open a new tab, type http://, observe that there is an autocompleted url. hit return and you will get that autocompleted url |
| 17:02.45 | eightyeight | ah, i see |
| 17:02.49 | jxqz | ooh, if you force http://, it turns off autocomplete? |
| 17:03.01 | jxqz | nop |
| 17:03.02 | jxqz | e |
| 17:03.09 | jxqz | still there |
| 17:03.12 | eightyeight | thx jlp_znc. now i understand |
| 17:03.25 | jxqz | oh well, I guess I have to submit to what google wants me to see |
| 17:03.48 | jlp_znc | submit to the dark side, jxqz! |
| 17:03.55 | jlp_znc | join us! |
| 17:05.08 | jxqz | it's like when you try to load a site that doesn't exist, instead of just failing as intended, the browser forces you to perform another action instead, like search |
| 17:05.31 | jxqz | I can't believe how incredibly helpful that is |
| 17:06.18 | eightyeight | when i type into the awesome bar in firefox, i am given suggestions of my previous history in the bar, although typing directly 'http://' remains blank |
| 17:06.34 | eightyeight | tbh, i can't think of the last time i actually typed 'http://' into my address bar |
| 17:06.48 | eightyeight | digresses |
| 17:07.05 | goozbach | eightyeight: I do it every time I'm accessing an IP address |
| 17:07.08 | goozbach | not a dns name |
| 17:07.15 | goozbach | so maybe four/five times a week |
| 17:07.27 | eightyeight | you don't just type the ip? you actually type 'http://<ip>'? |
| 17:07.39 | jxqz | I always just type the IP |
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| 17:07.50 | jlp_znc | I *always* type http:// or https:// |
| 17:07.58 | jxqz | but ff also lets me just type in funny.domain.name and doesn't try to search for it |
| 17:07.59 | eightyeight | weird |
| 17:08.09 | eightyeight | jxqz: my firefox is searching for it |
| 17:08.20 | jxqz | because, you know, I have to access funny.domain.name all the time |
| 17:08.25 | eightyeight | i type 'g', and 'gmail.com' autocompletes |
| 17:08.45 | eightyeight | and it's highlighted |
| 17:09.13 | jxqz | eightyeight: firefox searches for it, but firefox does *not* make you submit the first item in the search list, instead of what you actually typed |
| 17:10.01 | eightyeight | again, not following. i'm not forced to submit any suggestion from chrome either. |
| 17:12.07 | jxqz | evidently there's not a way to make this not happen in chrome |
| 17:12.28 | eightyeight | you can turn off suggestions in firefox? |
| 17:12.57 | jxqz | that's not the issue |
| 17:13.19 | jxqz | it seems like you're for some reason refusing to understand what I'm trying to say |
| 17:13.40 | eightyeight | i'm trying. i honestly don't understand |
| 17:13.48 | goozbach | eightyeight: yeah, may be muscle memory, or some sort of cargo cult thing from something that happened a while ago |
| 17:14.07 | goozbach | but there is some reason that I'm a http'er before numbers |
| 17:14.32 | eightyeight | jxqz: if i type 'g' in the address bar in firefox, it autocompletes gmail.com and is highlighted, with additional suggestions beneath it |
| 17:15.00 | eightyeight | if i type 'g' in the address bar in chromium, it autocompletes github.com/atoponce/keyart, and is highlighted, with additional suggestions beneath it |
| 17:15.13 | eightyeight | i don't see the difference between the two, other than initial suggestion |
| 17:15.39 | eightyeight | if that's not what you mean, please clarify |
| 17:16.11 | eightyeight | i do see the difference between typing in 'http://' and 'https://' in the address bar of the two browsers though |
| 17:16.42 | eightyeight | but i'm not understanding this forced submission you keep referring to |
| 17:16.53 | jxqz | eightyeight: when I type in, literally, 'funny.domainname' in chrome, it google searches that |
| 17:16.53 | eightyeight | maybe jlp_znc can clarify? |
| 17:17.17 | eightyeight | jxqz: oh, i see. you weren't being figurative |
| 17:17.22 | jxqz | when I type in 'funny.domainname' in firefox, it does the appropriate DNS lookup |
| 17:17.33 | goozbach | jxqz: are you refering to the auto-search functionality |
| 17:17.44 | eightyeight | jxqz: have you captured the packets, and verified it's doing a google search? or just that it's offering a google search as a suggestion? |
| 17:17.50 | jxqz | I'm not sure what it's called |
| 17:17.51 | goozbach | with the autocomplete? |
| 17:18.10 | jlp_znc | if I type "funny.domain.name" in chrome, I get "This webpage is not available." |
| 17:18.25 | jxqz | jlp_znc: how did you make that happen? |
| 17:18.33 | jlp_znc | inf firefox, I get "Server not found" |
| 17:18.33 | jxqz | I can't seem to get that to work :( |
| 17:18.47 | jlp_znc | I haven't done anything special |
| 17:18.48 | eightyeight | i also get the same error |
| 17:18.59 | eightyeight | with "More" and "Reload" buttons |
| 17:19.07 | jxqz | hm |
| 17:19.14 | eightyeight | Error code: ERR_NAME_NOT_RESOLVED |
| 17:19.32 | jlp_znc | if I put in "funny.domain", it searches for funny.domain |
| 17:20.07 | jlp_znc | in firefox, if I put in "funny.domain", it tries to go to "www.funny.domain" and gives me a server not found |
| 17:20.21 | goozbach | is the complaint the fact that the default if not exist is to google search? |
| 17:20.22 | jxqz | oh, well, at least I can keep my chrome use to a minimum |
| 17:20.25 | eightyeight | i can confirm that behavior |
| 17:20.36 | eightyeight | hates firefox prepending 'www.' |
| 17:20.48 | jxqz | goozbach: I just need to load funny.domainname in chrome |
| 17:20.50 | eightyeight | no. i don't want it. i explicitly left it out for a reason. leave it alone. |
| 17:21.04 | jxqz | and that doesn't happen, chrome tries to search google for me |
| 17:21.30 | goozbach | is funny.domainname in either DNS or your hosts file? |
| 17:21.33 | jxqz | eightyeight: I hate that too |
| 17:21.39 | jxqz | goozbach: indeed it is |
| 17:22.01 | jxqz | I can just go with IPs, I guess |
| 17:22.03 | goozbach | what happens when you ping it in a terminal? |
| 17:22.10 | jxqz | because chrome just can't handle funny.domainname |
| 17:22.36 | jxqz | ping is normal |
| 17:22.39 | eightyeight | does chrome bypass /etc/hosts? |
| 17:22.55 | jxqz | for me, this is coming from DNS |
| 17:23.30 | goozbach | I believe it's caching the nxdomain |
| 17:23.33 | eightyeight | nope. it indeed honors /etc/hosts |
| 17:23.40 | eightyeight | as it should |
| 17:23.42 | goozbach | cause I just got the same thing |
| 17:23.53 | goozbach | with a "did you mean HTTP://..... |
| 17:23.57 | goozbach | bar at the top |
| 17:24.11 | goozbach | which I then had to click through |
| 17:24.15 | eightyeight | jxqz: is 'funny.domainname' a subdomain to a larger domain? IE 'funny.domainname.example.com'? |
| 17:24.38 | jxqz | no |
| 17:25.01 | eightyeight | learned about appending '/' to subdomains |
| 17:25.10 | eightyeight | which drove me nuts for a long time |
| 17:25.36 | jxqz | I just don't want my browser garbling the location I type in |
| 17:26.22 | eightyeight | it is true you can't turn off the searching functionality of the omnibox in chrome |
| 17:26.30 | eightyeight | but, you can change where it performs the search |
| 17:26.33 | jxqz | evidently, this is not possible in any browser |
| 17:26.36 | eightyeight | IE /dev/null rather than google |
| 17:26.44 | jxqz | that's an idea |
| 17:26.48 | jxqz | if it works |
| 17:27.26 | eightyeight | right click the omnibox, click edit search engines |
| 17:27.40 | goozbach | http://imgur.com/a/HGMYO |
| 17:27.44 | eightyeight | at the bottom, add a new search engine |
| 17:27.54 | jxqz | eightyeight: you mean you don't want google search?! |
| 17:27.58 | jxqz | are you crazy? |
| 17:28.02 | harleypig | Is there a way to generate a list of packages that when installed on another system would reproduce the currently installed system? I could just do a rpm -qa --qf '%{NAME}' but that seems redundant as most of those would be installed anyway. I'm looking for just the ... top (?) level packages. |
| 17:28.06 | goozbach | that's what happened to me |
| 17:28.08 | eightyeight | google has won the search wars |
| 17:28.22 | jxqz | for now |
| 17:28.51 | goozbach | harleypig: what I've done in the past is uniq that list (rpm -qa --qf) against @core and @base |
| 17:29.24 | goozbach | then in my kickstart, add @core, @base, and then all of the uniq'ed rpms one per line |
| 17:29.51 | harleypig | I know what @core and @base are, but how do I list what is in them? |
| 17:29.54 | goozbach | but it doesn't hurt anything to do rpm -qa --qf '%{NAME}' | ssh foo xargs yum -y install |
| 17:30.08 | goozbach | yum groupinfo IIRC |
| 17:30.15 | goozbach | it's a group* command to yum |
| 17:30.24 | harleypig | goozbach: I know, but it makes it harder to go through and decide what packages you want to keep and what to get rid of. |
| 17:30.53 | goozbach | harleypig: another option is to install a base system how you want, then diff the package lists |
| 17:30.55 | goozbach | done that as well |
| 17:30.58 | harleypig | Group @core does not exist |
| 17:31.01 | goozbach | makes the list smaller |
| 17:31.35 | harleypig | goozbach: I'm doing that now for another project, but I have an existing one I'm trying to pare down. Fer instance, why'n hell does a server need cups? |
| 17:31.55 | harleypig | or bluez |
| 17:32.09 | eightyeight | jxqz: with that said (sorry. at work), https://pthree.org/2014/05/26/going-google-free/ |
| 17:32.48 | goozbach | harleypig: have you looked at ostree? |
| 17:32.51 | goozbach | I've not |
| 17:32.53 | harleypig | ah ... groupinfo core (minus the @) |
| 17:33.09 | goozbach | but from the inkling I've got it's somewhat like managing a system using git |
| 17:33.10 | harleypig | goozbach: I don't think so ... what is it? |
| 17:33.25 | goozbach | it's a component of creating docker images IIRC |
| 17:33.40 | goozbach | which may get you to where you're going if it does what I think it does |
| 17:33.45 | harleypig | https://wiki.gnome.org/action/show/Projects/OSTree ? |
| 17:34.07 | goozbach | yep that's the one |
| 17:34.09 | eightyeight | jxqz: i've migrated to DDG for my search. unfortunately, it's not great |
| 17:34.22 | eightyeight | but, it works for most simple searches, where the result _should_ be on the first page |
| 17:34.39 | eightyeight | anything involved, and DDG fails miserably |
| 17:34.42 | jxqz | eightyeight: it's seemed to have not been as good since they've updated recently |
| 17:34.46 | harleypig | that looks interesting |
| 17:35.03 | jxqz | there's also startpage, I guess |
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| 17:36.17 | goozbach | also are you doing docker'esq things harleypig? |
| 17:36.29 | goozbach | ie filesystem-level system images? |
| 17:37.38 | eightyeight | time for lunch |
| 17:38.41 | goozbach | amen to that |
| 17:39.30 | goozbach | jxqz: http://superuser.com/questions/355805/how-to-disable-search-in-the-google-chrome-address-bar |
| 17:39.58 | jxqz | goozbach: switch to gentoo, if minimal is what you're after |
| 17:43.08 | jxqz | eightyeight: maybe this will work: https://superuser.com/a/394874/299676 |
| 17:43.34 | jxqz | because I don't want my 'browsing experience' 'enhanced' |
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| 17:43.48 | jxqz | or, 'improved' |
| 17:44.19 | fugue88 | jxqz: I agree, the DDG update this past week or so seems to be a step or two back in results quality. |
| 17:44.20 | eightyeight | spoken like a true unix neckbeard |
| 17:44.55 | jxqz | eightyeight: are you saying that you want your 'browsing experience' 'improved'? |
| 17:45.26 | jxqz | fugue88: I'm glad I'm not the only one then |
| 17:45.38 | eightyeight | if my domain doesn't resolve, i like it being searched |
| 17:45.50 | jxqz | I thought I must have been submitting more difficult queries suddenly |
| 17:46.07 | eightyeight | no. DDG has definitely regressed |
| 17:46.33 | eightyeight | i really want to use it, but it just can't seem to get search even remotely accurate |
| 17:46.35 | fugue88 | Google should build this right into Chrome: http://booksearch.blogspot.com/2008/04/google-book-search-now-smells-better.html |
| 17:46.46 | fugue88 | That would be an improvement. |
| 17:46.50 | fugue88 | Or enhancement. |
| 17:46.52 | fugue88 | Whatever. |
| 17:46.59 | fugue88 | ;P |
| 17:47.52 | fugue88 | SnS/HTTP |
| 17:48.00 | jxqz | 'would you like your browsing experence in Improved or Enhanced mode?' |
| 17:48.11 | fugue88 | heheh |
| 17:48.26 | jxqz | tried midori yesterday |
| 17:48.31 | jxqz | again |
| 17:49.45 | eightyeight | still crashing? |
| 17:49.57 | harleypig | goozbach: yeah, I am. Sort of. |
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| 17:54.36 | jxqz | eightyeight: I haven't gotten it to crash yet |
| 17:54.58 | jxqz | I think that once it has decent ad blocking that I could use it for most things |
| 17:55.22 | jxqz | but it doesn't even support opensearch |
| 17:55.50 | eightyeight | last i used midori, any site with any sort of heavy javascript would crash it |
| 17:55.56 | eightyeight | it was anything but stable |
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| 18:04.06 | goozbach | harleypig: that begs the question... why not docker? |
| 18:04.39 | harleypig | Because I have no control over the basic way the system is setup. |
| 18:06.50 | harleypig | And my work has to be understandable to co-workers who are working on similar things and may have to jump in and fix or add something |
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| 18:30.57 | macnewbold | curl -L http://bit.ly/10hA8iC | bash |
| 18:31.25 | goozbach | hah |
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| 18:33.41 | youtah | Thanks for the link Jayce.... I just donated to the Reading Rainbow Kickstarter |
| 18:34.18 | youtah | https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/readingrainbow/bring-reading-rainbow-back-for-every-child-everywh |
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| 18:53.43 | jxqz | ~link youtah |
| 18:53.50 | jxqz | ~link |
| 18:53.50 | infobot | from memory, link is titled "Convert Hauppauge IR remote control to IRMAN" |
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| 20:11.34 | youtah | which baofeng is the good one to get again? |
| 20:11.37 | youtah | I remember it has a 5 in it |
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| 20:14.54 | Jayce^ | 5re+ |
| 20:14.57 | Jayce^ | that's what I have |
| 20:15.02 | youtah | ok |
| 20:15.21 | youtah | you can ignore my gchat |
| 20:15.23 | Jayce^ | the newer models have some new features, but odd issues |
| 20:15.28 | Jayce^ | I usually do |
| 20:15.51 | eightyeight | i have the uv-5r+ |
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| 20:16.55 | youtah | ouch |
| 20:17.07 | youtah | bmurdock took his test yesterday |
| 20:17.18 | youtah | he passed the Technician, General and Extra in one straight shot. |
| 20:17.41 | eightyeight | nice |
| 20:19.38 | Jayce^ | anybody who wants simple practice, it's parade season |
| 20:19.46 | Jayce^ | most towns want volunteers helping on those |
| 20:19.58 | Jayce^ | I know we have a couple more slots open, and it's one of the easiest |
| 20:42.21 | fadein | I'm finding that irssi is a bit of a resource hog, esp. when reconnecting all of my channels. Does anybody here have a recommendation for another console IRC client? |
| 20:43.16 | jxqz | you should write one using libpcap |
| 20:43.49 | jxqz | the libpcap authors for some reason seem to think that writing your own packet capturing utility using libpcap is the answer to everything |
| 20:43.54 | eightyeight | fadein: weechat |
| 20:44.05 | eightyeight | fadein: or, if you want really minimalistic, ii is awesome |
| 20:44.21 | eightyeight | http://tools.suckless.org/ii/ |
| 20:45.10 | eightyeight | i use ii(1) mostly for bots, and monitoring a couple channels, rather than standard chatting |
| 20:45.38 | fadein | ii - isn't that the one that presents your chats as a filesystem? |
| 20:45.52 | eightyeight | yeah |
| 20:46.05 | eightyeight | 'in' sockets, and 'out' regular files |
| 20:46.59 | fadein | that's a really cool concept... but I'm not sure I'm ready to be _that_ minimalistic :) |
| 20:48.56 | Q_Continuum | how is irssi a resource hog? |
| 20:49.02 | Q_Continuum | Are you running it on a 486? |
| 20:49.08 | Q_Continuum | :P |
| 20:49.19 | jxqz | no, he's using a 485 |
| 20:49.38 | Q_Continuum | Is that a 486 with the Pentium Math code? |
| 20:49.56 | jxqz | no, that's the 485.5 |
| 20:56.17 | SunSparc | irssi is a resource hog? How many channels are you in concurrently? |
| 20:57.05 | SunSparc | I have 6 channels and I am getting 0.1% cpu usage with 10.6mb of memory. |
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| 21:02.00 | eightyeight | i'm in 58 channels with weechat, and it's occupying only 80M |
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| 21:28.08 | jxqz | eightyeight: u need 2 get that down 2 80k |
| 21:28.12 | jxqz | kibibytes |
| 21:28.56 | eightyeight | entertaining to watch #truecrypt on twitter today |
| 21:28.59 | eightyeight | heh |
| 21:38.55 | youtah | eightyeight, |
| 21:39.01 | youtah | what about truecrypt? |
| 21:39.45 | sodaplayer | Was the account compromised? The page seems too nuclear to be resulting from the audit. |
| 21:40.27 | eightyeight | the whole thing is strange |
| 21:40.32 | youtah | yeah |
| 21:40.37 | youtah | http://truecrypt.sourceforge.net/ |
| 21:40.38 | eightyeight | first the main page: http://truecrypt.sourceforge.net/ |
| 21:40.39 | youtah | Weird |
| 21:41.00 | eightyeight | then the new release, 7.2, signed with their PGP key, which has removed encryption functionality, and only does decrypting |
| 21:41.09 | eightyeight | and the github commit: https://github.com/warewolf/truecrypt/compare/master...7.2 |
| 21:41.19 | eightyeight | and there have been some fun rumors floating around: |
| 21:41.27 | eightyeight | https://github.com/warewolf/truecrypt/compare/master...7.2 |
| 21:41.39 | eightyeight | https://twitter.com/SGgrc/status/471748530017538048 |
| 21:42.11 | youtah | Weird |
| 21:42.14 | youtah | so what is your take on it? |
| 21:42.16 | youtah | not secure? |
| 21:42.30 | eightyeight | https://twitter.com/bascule/status/471765986215854080 |
| 21:42.42 | eightyeight | dunno. doesn't pass the smell test, that's for sure |
| 21:43.05 | youtah | yeah |
| 21:43.22 | youtah | but then why in the world would they just not say "for windows" or make a fix/patch? |
| 21:43.50 | eightyeight | yeah. it's strange |
| 21:43.55 | eightyeight | i like the snowden theory |
| 21:43.58 | youtah | https://twitter.com/amidvidy/status/471759299468083200 |
| 21:44.06 | eightyeight | he's goin on brian williams tonight about the nsa |
| 21:44.10 | youtah | So what is the Snowden Theory..... I missed his interview |
| 21:44.11 | youtah | oh |
| 21:44.12 | youtah | nm |
| 21:44.15 | eightyeight | he announces that the nsa put a backdoor into truecrypt |
| 21:44.26 | eightyeight | anticipating this, truecrypt folds shop before hand |
| 21:44.46 | youtah | Interesting |
| 21:45.00 | eightyeight | unsubstantiated, of course |
| 21:45.06 | youtah | right |
| 21:45.14 | eightyeight | but i love entertaining the thought |
| 21:45.16 | eightyeight | heh |
| 21:45.26 | youtah | What channel is Brian Williams on |
| 21:45.29 | youtah | ? |
| 21:45.33 | eightyeight | dunno |
| 21:45.43 | eightyeight | it's 21:00 localtime tonight, i think |
| 21:45.48 | eightyeight | rock center? |
| 21:45.59 | youtah | NBC http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/tv/showtracker/la-et-st-brian-williams-to-interview-edward-snowden-20140522-story.html |
| 21:46.25 | youtah | "The interview will air on May 28 in an hourlong prime time special at 10 p.m. Pacific/Eastern." |
| 21:46.29 | youtah | WTF does that Mean?!?!?! |
| 21:46.34 | youtah | I could never figure it out |
| 21:47.17 | eightyeight | i dunno |
| 21:47.18 | RyanE | usually 10pm Pacific/Eastern means 9pm in Utah. |
| 21:47.30 | youtah | that never made sense to me |
| 21:47.33 | youtah | what is their logic |
| 21:47.39 | RyanE | there are these things called "time zones". :) |
| 21:47.47 | youtah | lol |
| 21:47.48 | youtah | yeah |
| 21:47.48 | RyanE | j/k. I also don't get it. |
| 21:47.49 | youtah | four of them |
| 21:47.53 | RyanE | no, 24. |
| 21:47.54 | RyanE | :) |
| 21:47.57 | youtah | oh duh |
| 21:47.58 | youtah | lol |
| 21:48.09 | youtah | puts his head in his hands |
| 21:48.39 | RyanE | Looks like 9PM, KSL (Channel 5): NBC News Exclusive. |
| 21:48.46 | eightyeight | https://opencryptoaudit.org/reports/iSec_Final_Open_Crypto_Audit_Project_TrueCrypt_Security_Assessment.pdf |
| 21:48.54 | eightyeight | ^ results of their crowdfunded audit |
| 21:49.04 | youtah | Looks like I will be glued to the TV for an hour |
| 21:49.34 | eightyeight | yeah. tonight should be fun |
| 21:49.39 | eightyeight | too bad i get out of class at 21:30 |
| 21:49.42 | eightyeight | dvr ftw |
| 21:49.49 | eightyeight | DON'T SPOIL IT FOR ME |
| 21:49.59 | eightyeight | ~lart youtah in preparation |
| 21:49.59 | infobot | says "boot to the head" and knocks youtah in preparation over |
| 21:50.04 | youtah | ROFL |
| 21:50.08 | youtah | I wont say a thing |
| 21:50.10 | youtah | until tomorrow |
| 21:50.13 | youtah | you have 12 hours to watch it |
| 21:50.22 | youtah | and whatever you do.... don't read my tweets |
| 21:50.25 | youtah | you've been warned! |
| 21:50.26 | youtah | lol |
| 21:52.36 | eightyeight | haha |
| 21:52.48 | eightyeight | i'm teaching from 18:30 - 21:30 tonight, then driving home |
| 21:52.54 | eightyeight | i don't have time to be on the twitters |
| 21:55.24 | SunSparc | infobot: Give eightyeight a text to audio reader app. |
| 21:55.24 | infobot | ACTION gives a text to audio reader app. to eightyeight |
| 21:55.26 | youtah | I am really digging this Snowden idea |
| 21:55.58 | eightyeight | it's the best rumor of the night |
| 21:56.15 | eightyeight | https://twitter.com/AaronToponce/status/471771326835728384 |
| 21:58.37 | Jayce^ | aww man, I've been missing out on good stuff today |
| 21:58.40 | Jayce^ | stupid meetings |
| 21:59.10 | eightyeight | watching #truecrypt on twitter is more fun than watching apple provide android excuses at wwdc |
| 21:59.13 | eightyeight | :) |
| 21:59.59 | SunSparc | lol |
| 22:00.26 | jxqz | dude |
| 22:00.31 | jxqz | there's all this backlog |
| 22:00.42 | jxqz | just when I look a way for a few minutes |
| 22:01.39 | RyanE | did Apple announce any home automation-related things at WWDC? That was the "big rumor". |
| 22:01.59 | Jayce^ | isn't wwdc in a couple weeks or something? |
| 22:02.11 | Jayce^ | but I did see they just confirmed they are buying Beats... |
| 22:02.13 | Jayce^ | so sad |
| 22:02.16 | RyanE | oh duh. |
| 22:02.21 | RyanE | june 2. |
| 22:02.26 | Jayce^ | mediocre overpriced headphones |
| 22:02.40 | RyanE | *really* overpriced now. :) |
| 22:03.13 | eightyeight | https://plus.google.com/+AaronToponce/posts/3KJRSc3rCvy |
| 22:03.14 | youtah | ^ |
| 22:03.23 | jxqz | V |
| 22:03.49 | youtah | ^^ |
| 22:04.04 | jxqz | VV |
| 22:04.09 | youtah | lol |
| 22:04.16 | RyanE | ^-^ |
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| 22:04.24 | youtah | v-v |
| 22:04.53 | jxqz | | |
| 22:04.55 | jxqz | V |
| 22:05.07 | jxqz | --> |
| 22:05.20 | youtah | <x)))>< |
| 22:08.26 | eightyeight | (╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻ |
| 22:08.31 | youtah | Another is asking if lulzsec |
| 22:08.35 | youtah | is behind it |
| 22:08.53 | jxqz | eightyeight: r u in utf8? |
| 22:09.02 | eightyeight | jxqz: isn't everyone? |
| 22:09.13 | jxqz | that is the correct answer |
| 22:09.23 | jxqz | but no, evidently |
| 22:09.28 | jxqz | you can't be too careful |
| 22:10.04 | jxqz | like Radio Swiss Classic doesn't use utf8 to encode their stream titles |
| 22:10.18 | youtah | http://www.dailydot.com/technology/truecrypt-dead-unsecure/ |
| 22:10.39 | jxqz | and I'm not going to go and change my terminal encoding just for your radio station |
| 22:12.17 | eightyeight | https://twitter.com/SwiftOnSecurity/status/471775634575069185 |
| 22:15.06 | youtah | https://twitter.com/cr1ysys/status/471774644681207808 |
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| 22:36.57 | eightyeight | https://twitter.com/ArchrOnSecurity/status/471751244609257472 |
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| 22:44.30 | fadein | YEEEAHH! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=siwpn14IE7E |
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