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| 17:02.48 | youtah | This one is for harleypig http://i.imgur.com/1Qki1gI.gif |
| 17:03.09 | youtah | and on that note... I'm leaving to go get lunch |
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| 18:21.04 | jxqz | ~nacho |
| 18:21.04 | infobot | NACHOOOOOOOOOOOOOooooooooooooooooooo....! |
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| 18:44.49 | youtah | looks over at jlp_znc's empty, cold, lonely cubical and frowns. |
| 18:46.37 | skrike | is there a difference between cubicle and cubical? |
| 18:56.46 | eightyeight | "cubical" is "shaped like a cube", where as "cubicle" is an enclosed space |
| 18:56.49 | eightyeight | aiui |
| 19:13.29 | jxqz | why does the way shell handles whitespace have to be so annoying |
| 19:15.27 | jxqz | var=$(ls -1 ${dir} | sort) # automagically changes all whitespace in there to a single \s |
| 19:21.36 | youtah | what the............. |
| 19:21.47 | youtah | When I run tcpdump |
| 19:21.50 | youtah | I get this.......... |
| 19:21.52 | youtah | tcpdump: USB link-layer type filtering not implemented |
| 19:22.14 | youtah | any ideas? |
| 19:22.21 | youtah | I googled it and my eyes started glazing over |
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| 19:32.37 | jxqz | echo "${var}" |
| 19:32.43 | jxqz | is the answer, srsly |
| 19:36.22 | eightyeight | jxqz: time to use a better shell |
| 19:37.14 | eightyeight | youtah: what command are you running? |
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| 19:43.04 | youtah | just tcpdump |
| 19:48.27 | jxqz | eightyeight: I can't |
| 19:48.30 | jxqz | I wish I could |
| 19:49.21 | eightyeight | youtah: with no options, or arguments? |
| 19:49.46 | jxqz | features in sh were added one at a time, a hack here, a hack there |
| 19:50.01 | jxqz | with no goal or design structure |
| 19:50.21 | eightyeight | and released in 1977... |
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| 19:50.56 | jxqz | and we're still living with the itch scratching development methodology of the 80s |
| 19:50.58 | youtah | correct eightyeight |
| 19:51.18 | eightyeight | youtah: do you have IP attached to a USB device? |
| 19:51.32 | youtah | tcpdump -n -n port 670 or port 671 |
| 19:51.37 | youtah | I don't think so |
| 19:51.44 | youtah | it's in another building, so I can't check |
| 19:51.47 | youtah | *sigh* |
| 19:52.55 | youtah | Reading the Googles, there's a lot of mentions of an old bug that has since been fixed |
| 19:56.20 | eightyeight | youtah: looks like you can capture raw usb traffic with libpcap |
| 19:57.13 | eightyeight | but, if you found a bug, then meh |
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| 20:15.41 | youtah | I'll run over there and check to make sure something isn't plugged in |
| 20:15.45 | youtah | ...later |
| 20:15.47 | youtah | :-) |
| 20:21.06 | TodPunk | Fez in chip8! http://johnearnest.github.io/Octo/index.html?gist=4c9fecd91afdb6163964 |
| 20:21.19 | TodPunk | (A/Q/D/E for movement, rotation) |
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| 20:25.30 | TodPunk | jxqz: It doesn't convert spaces, assuming you're using bash. It strips out the spaces and puts the separate elements into a list-like structure which, when output, inserts the space as a separator |
| 20:43.29 | bmurdock | shell and whitespace: http://logbuffer.wordpress.com/2010/09/23/bash-scripting-preserve-whitespaces-in-variables/ |
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| 21:19.04 | tristanbob | anyone with Cisco ASA experience looking for some consulting work? |
| 21:40.07 | eightyeight | https://i.imgur.com/jCfGDHy.jpg |
| 21:51.17 | harleypig | Is there a way to yum/rpm that, yes, I know a file is conflicting with an installed version and, yes, I do want to overwrite it and have this new package be responsible for said file? |
| 21:51.26 | harleypig | s/way to/way to tell/ |
| 21:52.04 | harleypig | I know I can use rpm -ivh --replacefiles, but is there a way I don't have to do that every time I install an update to the package? |
| 21:59.35 | jxqz | I don't think so |
| 21:59.55 | jxqz | replacing files is a Big Deal |
| 22:00.08 | jxqz | for any pkgmgr |
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| 22:10.36 | harleypig | Yeah, I know. This is a custom rpm for our own servers, not meant for public consumption. |
| 22:10.56 | harleypig | I know I should be using config management, but I don't have a say in that. |
| 22:11.56 | goozbach | harleypig: using %config? |
| 22:12.00 | goozbach | don't use %config |
| 22:12.12 | goozbach | ohh NM |
| 22:12.30 | goozbach | the only way you'd get that to work is to modifiyg the conflicting pkg too |
| 22:12.34 | harleypig | not using config |
| 22:12.43 | goozbach | didn't read that properly |
| 22:12.46 | harleypig | ick, yeah, not going to do that. |
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| 22:21.30 | TodPunk | harleypig: you could install the normal package from source instead of rpm/yum and then use the new package to control the config (assuming that's all you're doing). The result should be about the same, except the source wont' be built for your OS necessarily (following its conventions and all that) |
| 22:23.33 | harleypig | TodPunk: I thought about that, but what I'm really doing is configuration management via rpm. There are a number of packages whose config files have been altered. I don't want to maintain that many custom rpm sources. |
| 22:24.36 | harleypig | What I've been doing before now is trying to keep track of each file and overwrite them on new setup, or when updating. |
| 22:24.36 | TodPunk | hehe, so "you're doing it wrong" is applicable here then. You know salt is pretty easy, right? =cP |
| 22:24.47 | harleypig | It's annoying as hell. |
| 22:25.04 | harleypig | I do. I can't use it. I can't use Chef or Puppet either. |
| 22:25.19 | harleypig | I know I'm doing it wrong. |
| 22:25.39 | TodPunk | you can't, but you can break rpm? xD I don't discount that it's a possibility, but it is a cruel twist of fate. |
| 22:25.40 | harleypig | It's just better than managing some 50+ files individually |
| 22:26.08 | harleypig | The people who will be maintaining the actual customer facing servers don't want to use config management. |
| 22:26.47 | harleypig | As far as *they* are concerned I'm not breaking anything ... they just get a complete filesystem. |
| 22:27.03 | TodPunk | Not to plug debian or anything, but there are ways to manage this scenario in apt that are pretty interesting (too many choices to say there's a "right" way there either, though. Probably not.) |
| 22:27.21 | harleypig | yeah, that's not going to happen either. |
| 22:27.23 | TodPunk | I know apt isn't helpful |
| 22:28.01 | TodPunk | oh, so their config management is a filesystem dump to start from |
| 22:28.23 | harleypig | hmmm ... I wonder though ... I don't know why I didn't think of this sooner ... I could set up my own salt instance and work from there. |
| 22:28.35 | TodPunk | also true |
| 22:28.38 | TodPunk | well hopefully it doesn't cause you too many nightmares |
| 22:28.47 | harleypig | since they don't care how it got done, only that it did ... |
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| 22:28.55 | harleypig | TodPunk: heh |
| 22:29.54 | goozbach | you could use ansible w/o leaving marks on the filesystem :> |
| 22:35.37 | TodPunk | goozbach: you can do the same with salt |
| 22:36.15 | TodPunk | I learned that one at OpenWest, and it was a touted feature of ansible (which is why we used it where I used to work) |
| 23:13.34 | jxqz | harleypig: ur using the Wrong Tools |
| 23:13.44 | jxqz | blame management |
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| 23:28.31 | youtah | https://scontent-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/t31.0-8/10380642_10202461603001115_9041829961250061753_o.jpg |
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| 23:43.26 | harleypig | https://imgur.com/gallery/EjPHoCX |
| 23:45.32 | davido_ | Any restaurant recommendations South Salt Lake / Sandy? :) |
| 23:45.57 | goozbach | davido_: blue iguana |
| 23:46.02 | harleypig | NSFW http://i.imgur.com/lHbZvKF.gif NSFW |
| 23:46.12 | goozbach | and the taco cart near salt palace |
| 23:46.34 | davido_ | I like blue iguana. Unfortunately my Filipina wife has no taste for Mexican food (almost a deal breaker, but not quite. ;) |
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