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| 02:08.28 | *** topic/#utah is Utah related discussion including user groups | logs @ http://ibot.rikers.org/%23utah/ | See also ##lds | OpenWest Conference sometime 2014! openwest.org | https://fiber.google.com/cities/provo/ |
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| 15:01.10 | goozbach | anyone else get approached by packt publshing for either a blog post or a book review or to write a book? |
| 15:01.14 | goozbach | is it worth it? |
| 15:05.46 | fozzmoo | No, but that would be cool. I'd love to write another book. |
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| 15:08.04 | goozbach | I doubt I could make any money on writing a book for another publisher (outside of the big names) |
| 15:08.10 | goozbach | and I'd want to publish myself |
| 15:08.17 | goozbach | which isn't difficult to do nowdays |
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| 15:38.23 | eightyeight | http://programming.com/social/posts/3899777139716654294 |
| 15:38.57 | unum | eightyeight: good one |
| 15:39.56 | unum | I'm in the middle of debating weather to rewrite a script or not.... |
| 15:41.22 | eightyeight | heh |
| 15:41.26 | eightyeight | so the timing is good then. :) |
| 15:42.03 | shalkie | http://programming.com/social/posts/3889541487632843868 |
| 15:42.12 | shalkie | ^^ Since the conference just ended. |
| 15:43.59 | eightyeight | heh |
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| 15:53.53 | fugue88 | Anyone know the URL for the utahopensource *channel* on youtube? I can get the utahopensource *user* rss feed, but that's not what I'm looking for. |
| 15:54.26 | fugue88 | I mean that I want the URL for the rss feed for the channel. |
| 15:59.50 | shalkie | https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC0wbcfzV-bHhABbWGXKHwdg |
| 16:01.43 | fugue88 | shalkie: That's what I want the rss url for. |
| 16:02.56 | fozzmoo | I should be more diligent about putting everything into a playlist. :-/ |
| 16:04.20 | shalkie | fugue88: Ah, sorry. |
| 16:05.10 | fugue88 | np |
| 16:05.17 | fugue88 | I wasn't clear. :) |
| 16:06.59 | fugue88 | My problem with the rss feed for the user (https://www.youtube.com/rss/user/utahopensource/videos.rss) is that it's only displaying one video from 2014. |
| 16:07.22 | fugue88 | I assume this is because a different user is uploading the videos, but they're being aggregated into the youtube channel. |
| 16:07.27 | fugue88 | I don't really know how that works. |
| 16:07.52 | fugue88 | The strange thing is that the 2014 videos only show a link for utahopensource, not any other user that I see. |
| 16:09.04 | fozzmoo | Youtube is weird. |
| 16:09.23 | fozzmoo | When I log into Youtube as media@utos.org, it gives me the option of being one of three different users. |
| 16:10.03 | fozzmoo | utahopensource, Utah Open Source, and media@utos.org |
| 16:10.17 | fozzmoo | This change happened since last year's Openwest. |
| 16:10.33 | fozzmoo | Since the change, I've been uploading videos as Utah Open Source because, well, that looks best. |
| 16:10.38 | fugue88 | :D |
| 16:10.50 | fozzmoo | But all the videos I uploaded last year are now under utahopensource |
| 16:11.04 | fozzmoo | There doesn't seem to be an obvious way to consolidate. |
| 16:11.48 | fugue88 | Okay, yeah, that's weird. |
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| 19:50.01 | jxqz | ~napoleon |
| 19:50.01 | infobot | There's like a buttload of gangs at this school. One of them kept wanting me to join because I'm pretty good with a bowstaff. |
| 19:50.52 | harleypig | I've got a perl module and I'm making an rpm package out of it. The module creation process creates symlinks. How do I tell rpmbuild to honor these links and include them in the rpm? |
| 19:51.12 | harleypig | Google tells me I can just create the links manually in the %install section, but this seems redundant to me. |
| 19:51.52 | harleypig | If I include the link in the %files section I get file not found errrors |
| 19:52.42 | harleypig | gah ... scrum ... bbiab |
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| 20:08.26 | jxqz | harleypig: huh? |
| 20:15.47 | harleypig | jxqz: ? What huh? |
| 20:15.55 | harleypig | I mean, how did I confuse you |
| 20:15.57 | harleypig | ? |
| 20:17.14 | goozbach | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:20.05 | jxqz | what is 'scrum' |
| 20:20.16 | jxqz | is the rpmbuild master here |
| 20:20.54 | jxqz | latest managerspeak, I believe |
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| 20:21.55 | harleypig | jxqz: scrum is a (supposedly) quick stand up meeting where we tell what we did and what we'll do. |
| 20:21.57 | Jon_ | cout<<"hello world<<end; |
| 20:22.32 | jxqz | harleypig: that seems like it should be just handled by your 'make install' process |
| 20:23.01 | harleypig | jxqz: you should reread what I said. :] |
| 20:23.18 | TodPunk | macnewbold: you around? I have a followup question to your hiring presentation =cP |
| 20:23.38 | jxqz | harleypig: I did; I'm confused about why/what is happening with your symlinks |
| 20:24.29 | harleypig | The ./Build install process creates the symlinks correctly. When I look in the BUILD/MyPackage-1.02/blib directory the symlinks are there. |
| 20:24.48 | jxqz | rpmbuild normally just bundles up your %files inside of rpmbuild/BUILDROOT as is |
| 20:24.56 | TodPunk | Specifically, "How does one looking for a job deal with the kick back of being 'overqualified' to hiring companies?" |
| 20:25.06 | tensai | that was a weird random drive by from Jon_. wonder if he confused irc for a c++ compiler. |
| 20:25.19 | jxqz | well, he had a syntax error |
| 20:25.23 | harleypig | When I create the MyPackage.spec file I put the files to be installed in the %files section. When I run rpmbuild -ba MyPackage.spec I get missing files errors, even though they are there. |
| 20:27.34 | jxqz | harleypig: can you paste the rpmbuild output+specfile? |
| 20:28.44 | jxqz | rpmbuild runs a ton of scripts that haven't been touched since the early 00's, it seems, and it seems to never have really matured option- and operation-wise |
| 20:29.51 | jxqz | lots of arcane, unconfigurable things it does, some of which are counterhelpful and others are just annoyinng and still more are just plain undocumented |
| 20:30.40 | harleypig | feh ... where is that stupid pastebinit script |
| 20:31.26 | jxqz | you're turning it into an rpm |
| 20:31.45 | shalkie | harleypig: fpaste ? |
| 20:34.48 | harleypig | shalkie: that'll work, thanks |
| 20:34.54 | harleypig | jxqz: http://ur1.ca/hd36d |
| 20:37.22 | jxqz | harleypig: is the install tree correct within the rpmbuild/BUILDROOT dir? |
| 20:37.40 | jxqz | I think rpmbuild clears that dir, so it would be an intermediate step |
| 20:38.15 | harleypig | ... crap |
| 20:38.35 | harleypig | So, it's being installed in BUILD but not BUILDROOT |
| 20:38.58 | harleypig | It's not listed in the installing section. |
| 20:39.28 | harleypig | I think this may actually be a module build problem then |
| 20:40.08 | jxqz | the vps.umount file doesn't appear in the list of files installing into $RPM_BUILD_ROOT |
| 20:40.23 | harleypig | yeah |
| 20:40.40 | jxqz | so, do I get any points? |
| 20:41.20 | jxqz | also, just cause it's a symlink, you may want to ensure it's not a broken link |
| 20:42.40 | harleypig | It's going to be broken until it's installed in the target system if it's not a relative link. |
| 20:43.19 | jxqz | that may be a problem for rpmbuild; I don't know for sure, just guessing |
| 20:43.30 | harleypig | Joy |
| 20:43.34 | jxqz | :) |
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| 21:06.00 | ChrisHansen | hi |
| 21:06.17 | ChrisHansen | my name is Chris Hansen |
| 21:06.38 | ChrisHansen | and your on Dateline to Catch a Predator |
| 21:06.55 | ChrisHansen | dont you guys have some else better to do |
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| 21:10.34 | harleypig | o o o ... Can I be on it! |
| 21:11.13 | peno | only if you wear the thong, harleypig |
| 21:13.15 | harleypig | And bring a 6 pack of root beer? |
| 21:18.15 | jxqz | the c++ troller |
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| 21:18.49 | jxqz | overtakingyou |
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| 21:24.32 | Jayce | too bad our little digis customer isn't sticking around to get the harleypig effect |
| 21:25.07 | jxqz | Jayce: u know u want d1g1s |
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| 21:39.14 | harleypig | Who? ChrisHansen? |
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| 22:44.16 | TodPunk | jxqz: there are jokes, and there's a line you cross into "Just don't do that." I think you crossed that line. |
| 22:53.16 | macnewbold1 | TodPunk: yeah, i'm here, what's up? |
| 22:54.30 | jxqz | digis 4 TodPunk!? |
| 22:55.01 | macnewbold | TodPunk: saw your question now, re: overqualified |
| 22:55.12 | macnewbold | usual objections I think are these: |
| 22:55.17 | macnewbold | 1. you'll be too expensive for them |
| 22:56.58 | harleypig | TodPunk: what joke? what line? |
| 22:57.33 | jxqz | mutually orthogonal lines |
| 22:57.35 | harleypig | Is there a way to restrict what files or directories rpmbuild looks at to determine dependencies? |
| 22:57.52 | jxqz | harleypig: unfortunately not |
| 22:58.16 | macnewbold | 2. you'll be dissatisfied with the job and still be looking for something else |
| 22:58.18 | harleypig | hmph ... is there a way to exclude dependencies? |
| 22:58.34 | macnewbold | 3. maybe they're worried you're smarter than them? or will think you are, or act like you should be in charge? |
| 22:58.56 | jxqz | harleypig: the best thing you can do, from what I've seen is this: http://www.revragnarok.com/blog/blog/optional_rpm |
| 22:59.07 | macnewbold | so TodPunk, to resolve #1, you just need to have the salary talk with them, and say you really want the job and will do it for X which is within their budget, etc. |
| 22:59.16 | jxqz | I mean, I'm guessing that's what you're asking about |
| 22:59.36 | macnewbold | to resolve #2 is a little harder, and would require a lot of honesty. they're probably looking for a long term fit, so you'd have to convince them that you really are interested in the job for the long term |
| 23:00.07 | macnewbold | if they think #3 is an issue, either they didn't talk to you long enough to not be worried about it, or they talked to you long enough that they are worried about it ;) |
| 23:01.51 | harleypig | jxqz: what a hack! that's kind of scary actually ... but looks like it'll do what I need. |
| 23:02.05 | jxqz | harleypig: yup |
| 23:02.10 | jxqz | that's rpmbuild for you |
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| 23:04.25 | jxqz | also because the spec file has directives to explicitly declare Requires' |
| 23:05.42 | harleypig | Yeah, I've got those ... which is why it bugs me that I can't say 'IgnoreRequire' or 'OptRequire' |
| 23:06.22 | jxqz | #rpm is supposedly for nextgen rpm stuffs; you could bring it up there :-) |
| 23:18.52 | harleypig | jxqz: I'll check it out |
| 23:19.37 | TodPunk | darn, mac left, I can't thank him yet |
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