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| 00:04.41 | goozbach | it would be awesome if I could make $300-400 by the end of the week... anyone needing any ops help? |
| 00:04.44 | goozbach | scripting, config management, custom software packaging (deb/rpm), website config audit (heartbleed anyone?) |
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| 01:05.31 | jlp_znc | RyanE: yeah, my flight is supposed to leave at 12:04, so I'm thinking that getting there around 9:00 AM won't be too soon. |
| 01:06.11 | jlp_znc | SJC is a pretty small airport and usually I can get through security there in about 10 minutes, so I'm thinking three hours should be enough. :-/ |
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| 02:24.32 | shalkie | jlp_znc: A drivers license isn't the only acceptable form of ID, actually I have seen people get through with no ID. Though they did have to answer twenty questions. |
| 02:24.35 | shalkie | http://www.tsa.gov/traveler-information/acceptable-ids |
| 02:25.54 | shalkie | There is some sort of policy for people without state issued ID (imagine you get pick pocketed while traveling and can't get home from inside the US!) |
| 02:28.44 | goozbach | you have to submit to full pat down, and do some more talking |
| 02:28.49 | goozbach | helps if you're traveling with someone |
| 02:30.56 | shalkie | jlp_znc: For a roundtrip ticket and $600, you might be able to get goozbach to fly out and vo9uch for ya! ;) |
| 02:31.03 | shalkie | s/vo9/vo |
| 02:31.17 | goozbach | hah |
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| 10:46.29 | *** topic/#utah is Utah related discussion including user groups | logs @ http://ibot.rikers.org/%23utah/ | See also ##lds | OpenWest Conference sometime 2014! openwest.org | https://fiber.google.com/cities/provo/ |
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| 15:28.27 | eightyeight | ~cyber |
| 15:28.27 | infobot | i guess cyber is a word you put in front of another to make the second word meaningless. |
| 15:32.22 | sodaplayer | ~cyber infobot |
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| 15:45.14 | jxqz | ~cyberbot |
| 15:45.30 | jxqz | ~rebyc |
| 15:45.43 | jxqz | ~rot12345678900987654321 rebyc |
| 15:45.43 | infobot | mzwtx |
| 15:48.12 | fungus | ~cloud |
| 15:48.12 | infobot | i heard cloud is an experienced Zaurus user |
| 15:50.16 | jsmith | infobot: cloud is also a very nebulous term |
| 15:50.16 | infobot | jsmith: okay |
| 15:50.21 | jsmith | ~cloud |
| 15:50.21 | infobot | it has been said that cloud is an experienced Zaurus user, or a very nebulous term |
| 15:51.05 | sodaplayer | ~nebulous |
| 15:53.23 | fadein | does anybody know what Comcast is charging for internet in Provo now that Google Fiber is a thing? |
| 15:53.45 | fadein | The Comcrap salesguy wouldn't say what his company is charging in Provo nowadays |
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| 15:55.17 | sodaplayer | ~nebulous |
| 15:55.18 | infobot | it has been said that nebulous is a nebulous way to describe a cloud |
| 15:55.53 | eightyeight | 'the fog' is the future |
| 15:56.53 | sodaplayer | Its use will be translucent to all of us. |
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| 16:14.18 | eightyeight | sodaplayer: you thought i was joking: http://online.wsj.com/news/article_email/SB10001424052702304908304579566662320279406-lMyQjAxMTA0MDEwOTExNDkyWj |
| 16:16.16 | eightyeight | it's funny, how through computing history, data has gone back and forth from being stored server-side, then client-side, then server-side, then ... |
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| 16:27.16 | sodaplayer | Ahh, neat. |
| 16:35.10 | bmurdock | Speaking of "the fog", has anybody played with maidsafe yet? http://maidsafe.net/ |
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| 17:03.23 | programmerq | bmurdock: looks quite interesting. |
| 17:03.53 | programmerq | and more effective than my idea to try to convince the whole neighborhood to operate a mesh node alongside their existing internet |
| 17:04.14 | bmurdock | lol |
| 17:04.56 | bmurdock | I thought it looked interesting too and I keep meaning to read up on beyond the front page of their website |
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| 17:57.44 | davido_ | Anyone know of a good source and installer for class-III hitches, brake light wiring, and electronic brake control? |
| 17:59.32 | jxqz | uhaul does many hitches |
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| 17:59.56 | jxqz | they do all of those things in fact |
| 18:00.01 | Jayce | yeah, they are often one of the best place to get a receiver on |
| 18:00.10 | davido_ | Checking the site now. |
| 18:00.14 | davido_ | good suggestion. |
| 18:00.35 | davido_ | I was almost convinced I would do it myself, and then had visions of the pop-up trailer disappearing in my rear view. |
| 18:00.44 | Jayce | what are you pulling with? |
| 18:01.00 | davido_ | Nissan Pathfinder. It's a big popup... about 2500 pounds. |
| 18:01.44 | Jayce | look into anti-sway bar |
| 18:01.49 | Jayce | they are *awesome* |
| 18:01.55 | Jayce | make a huge difference |
| 18:02.19 | davido_ | Good point. I had one on my old Bronco when I used to tow a 5500lb sailboat, and that made a huge difference. |
| 18:04.29 | davido_ | Uhaul website: it will be about 227 for hitch and wiring. Doesn't mention electronic brake control. That may be the DIY part of the project. I see those on Amazon. |
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| 18:38.18 | unum | http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2014/05/how-a-mayors-quest-to-unmask-a-foul-mouthed-twitter-user-blew-up-in-his-face/ |
| 18:38.49 | unum | pashdown: if you haven't read the above link you should, especialy the part where they point out one of the warrants claimed he was involved in child porn |
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| 18:54.35 | eightyeight | http://www.boredpanda.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/magnified-drop-of-seawater-photo-david-liittschwager-large.jpg |
| 18:55.02 | eightyeight | er, post: http://www.boredpanda.com/magnified-drop-of-seawater-photo-david-liittschwager/ |
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| 19:10.38 | shalkie | Meh. Extra protein. Usually you can digest it, rarely can it digest you. :) |
| 19:11.12 | shalkie | Freshwater isn't much better. |
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| 19:32.02 | pashdown | that is the weakness in warrants. hoodwinking a judge is probably easier than i'd like to consider. |
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| 19:41.31 | TodPunk | social engineer > any buffer overflow |
| 19:42.15 | TodPunk | Sneakers is still a good film mostly because of this. |
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| 20:01.41 | eightyeight | i love sneakers. and war games. |
| 20:01.46 | eightyeight | two best hacking movies |
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| 20:18.10 | RyanE | Mister Potato Head! Mister Potato Head! Back doors are not secrets! |
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| 20:48.42 | jxqz | ~napoleon |
| 20:48.43 | infobot | Girls only like guys who have great skills: Nun-chuck skills, bow hunting skills, computer hacking skills. |
| 20:50.39 | jlp_znc | ~nacho |
| 20:50.39 | infobot | Tonight I wrestle the seven strongest men in town, maybe the world. |
| 21:00.27 | ldav15 | ~drstrangeloveorhowilearnedtostopworryingandlovethebomb |
| 21:03.28 | jlp_znc | WAHOOO! WAHOOOO! |
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| 21:09.14 | ldav15 | Gentlemen, you can't fight in here, this is the War Room! |
| 21:14.31 | Jayce | :) |
| 21:18.54 | jlp_znc | We must not allow a mineshaft gap! |
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| 21:46.20 | TodPunk | Any of you other nerds going to be at my PLUG presentation tonight? If so, I hope I don't disappoint you... |
| 21:53.35 | RyanE | I'm going to try and come |
| 21:56.09 | TodPunk | you poor bastard. Bring something to quietly do when you're bored =c( |
| 21:56.19 | RyanE | heh |
| 21:56.30 | jlp_znc | I highly doubt it, as I'm about 800 miles from Provo right now. |
| 21:56.37 | RyanE | If you were presenting on *Java*, not *Javascript*, I'd give it a pass. :) |
| 21:56.51 | jlp_znc | java is to javascript as car is to carpet |
| 21:59.12 | RyanE | or carport |
| 21:59.28 | RyanE | but that does imply *some* relationship, so I guess not. |
| 22:02.58 | davido_ | Java is to JavaScript as restrooms are to ATM's. They're both everywhere. People hate one, and tolerate the other. |
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| 22:07.48 | TodPunk | Java is to JavaScript as Target is to K-mart. They both look similar to someone that's never used them, and they fit entirely different demographics. |
| 22:11.39 | RyanE | except when you go into the Target, you'll find that you have to speak in CamelCaseWithExtrememlyLongNames. |
| 22:13.26 | TodPunk | RyanE: no, that's just how a lot of other people speak in Target. You can still just get eggs and a nice throw rug and tell them "No Thank You" about their card signup thing. |
| 22:13.47 | TodPunk | A lot of people really don't realize that you can write Java like it was C and it's actually pretty fantastic |
| 22:15.03 | TodPunk | I'm not advocating Java here, because if you do it for work it will likely be FactoryManagerInterfaceAbstractionSingleton all over, but I think it's interesting to look at the problem for what it is, instead of saying the language sucks |
| 22:15.22 | TodPunk | (not that I'm saying anyone is saying Java sucks as a language. Except me. I might say that sometimes.) |
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| 22:26.40 | jxqz | target always feels surreal |
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| 23:10.15 | davido_ | Here's a fencepost error for you: MS lets you download Windows virtual machine images. The initial run is good for 90 days. After that you can re-arm up to 4 times before starting with a fresh image. |
| 23:10.47 | davido_ | It seems unlikely that the intent was 455 days. |
| 23:11.44 | davido_ | It may well have been the intent, but seems like a strange choice of time limits. |
| 23:12.07 | RyanE | I thought it sucked because I used it back in the 90's or early oughts, when everything I tried to use was deprecated. |
| 23:12.11 | RyanE | and the typing. :) |
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| 23:13.39 | jxqz | why does a virtual machine have windows? |
| 23:14.06 | jxqz | what does 'windows' even mean in this context? |
| 23:14.41 | jxqz | window manager windows? |
| 23:14.55 | davido_ | Ok, so Microsoft has VM images of various versions of its Windows operating system that developers are allowed to install for the purpose of testing web work on various flavors of IE. |
| 23:15.31 | davido_ | I can, for example, use the VirtualBox host to run a free MS Windows install. |
| 23:16.13 | davido_ | The MS Windows virtual machine image downloaded from the MS website may be run for 90 days, after which time the dev has to re-arm it. He can do that four times at 90 days each. |
| 23:16.53 | davido_ | My observation was that it seems like five-90-day runs was the intent. Someone somewhere probably said "give them a year, then let them install a new image"... not "give them 455 days..." |
| 23:17.21 | davido_ | I mean it seems unlikely that five-90-day runs was the intent. |
| 23:17.43 | davido_ | More likely, a year was the intent; 4x90. But the initial run is 90, plus 4 re-arms = 455. |
| 23:18.01 | davido_ | A possible fencepost error. |
| 23:18.44 | jxqz | what is microsoft? |
| 23:19.26 | jxqz | s/microsoft/a microsoft/ |
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| 23:56.07 | jlp_znc | so, davido_, where do you go to sign up for this? do you have to have MDN or something like that? |
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