| 00:05.48 | sodaplayer | Thanks |
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| 01:08.01 | shalkie | Why does FreePBX have to be fun to dink around with? |
| 01:08.06 | shalkie | has a new fun thing. |
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| 04:19.31 | shalkie | Well I just discovered that Deseret lives on in Unicode (U+10400 to U+1044F). http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deseret_alphabet |
| 04:29.23 | ldav15 | You didn't know that? Unicode is rife with dead scripts usually useful only to acedemia. Linear B, check. Cunieform, got it. Ancient Greek musical notation, no prob. |
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| 04:33.25 | shalkie | I knew there was the potential for them to be included, but I am unsure of the value from actually doing it. |
| 04:35.35 | shalkie | I suppose academics might be able to include the string of text directly in an email without a photo attachment. |
| 04:35.45 | shalkie | Anyways, night yall! |
| 04:41.02 | sodaplayer | Woo, finally got all my signed keys emailed out. Fought with my email client which wasn't accepting the validity of any of the keys. Took me a while to realize that I didn't trust my own key. |
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| 13:27.53 | goozbach | shalkie: if you need any freepbx help give me a holler! |
| 13:27.58 | goozbach | built that distro |
| 13:28.00 | goozbach | literallly |
| 13:28.04 | goozbach | wrote the tools which compose it |
| 13:28.50 | goozbach | shalkie: also I just finished my first OTTS course (open telephony training seminar) -- a full week of freepbx goodness |
| 13:30.20 | shalkie | Nice! |
| 13:30.28 | shalkie | I will do that goozbach. |
| 13:31.14 | goozbach | whatcha using for a provider? |
| 13:53.38 | eightyeight | looks like i might have software included in the 'signing-party' package as part of debian |
| 13:53.40 | eightyeight | w00t |
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| 14:35.08 | sodaplayer | Did you get your visual fingerprint packaged? |
| 14:35.42 | sodaplayer | eightyeight: |
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| 14:55.56 | shalkie | goozbach: Work. :) |
| 14:59.24 | shalkie | I feel like I am wasting precious bandwidth. Such a nice pipe and so little flow. |
| 15:03.50 | goozbach | work is your upstream sip provider? |
| 15:04.37 | shalkie | goozbach: Yep. :) We have a Asterisk instance running. |
| 15:04.45 | shalkie | s/a A/an A/ |
| 15:05.34 | goozbach | fun, |
| 15:05.38 | goozbach | s/,/!/ |
| 15:09.47 | shalkie | Yep, they gave me a login so I could use a sip client from home. I decided it would cooler if I setup FreePBX on my side and have my clients connect to it. |
| 15:10.27 | shalkie | The fact that I have a NAT going helped me decide this was a good idea, since it was simpler to setup the FreePBX setup to deal with NAT then some of the SIP clients. |
| 15:10.52 | goozbach | freepbx + nat is awesome sauce |
| 15:11.03 | shalkie | Yeppers. |
| 15:11.10 | goozbach | I'm like quadruple natted here in my office and things *JUST WORK* |
| 15:11.22 | goozbach | given proper config from freepbx external routes |
| 15:12.37 | eightyeight | sodaplayer: i'm just now getting write access to the signing-party svn repository on alioth |
| 15:12.44 | eightyeight | sodaplayer: it will probably hit the next release |
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| 15:20.39 | unum | eightyeight: how was the signing party? |
| 15:21.10 | eightyeight | it was good |
| 15:21.18 | eightyeight | we had 15 or so show up |
| 15:21.40 | sodaplayer | How many did you expect? |
| 15:22.54 | eightyeight | 8 |
| 15:23.09 | eightyeight | basically, those that were on the printout |
| 15:23.24 | eightyeight | the ones we had to write on the whiteboard were last-minute new-comers |
| 15:25.07 | sodaplayer | Ahh, I mean like when you hold these things how many people usually come? |
| 15:28.40 | eightyeight | ah |
| 15:28.44 | eightyeight | depends on the event |
| 15:28.56 | eightyeight | at SCALE, it's typically 50-60 |
| 15:29.09 | eightyeight | at UTOS in the past, it's been 15-20 |
| 15:31.19 | eightyeight | $ date --date=@1400000000 |
| 15:31.20 | eightyeight | Tue May 13 10:53:20 MDT 2014 |
| 15:31.30 | eightyeight | looks for sjansen |
| 15:31.46 | shalkie | Are you expecting sjansen for some reason? |
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| 15:33.21 | eightyeight | when it was @1234567890, i had him scripting all sorts of goodies |
| 15:33.34 | eightyeight | adding color, changing the font, etc, etc. |
| 15:33.56 | eightyeight | after like an hour of poking and prodding, he realized i was using him, and stopped providing updates |
| 15:33.58 | eightyeight | :) |
| 15:34.25 | eightyeight | i bet i still have it in my irc logs, actually |
| 15:34.27 | eightyeight | digs |
| 15:35.25 | eightyeight | nope. earliest i have is "Log opened Sat Aug 28 00:05:50 2010" |
| 15:35.34 | eightyeight | i need to go back to Feb 13, 1009 |
| 15:35.37 | eightyeight | heh |
| 15:35.38 | eightyeight | er, 2009 |
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| 15:47.59 | shalkie | Any immediate thoughts on why cheating and running a cat5e cable through my heating ducts would be a bad idea? |
| 15:48.11 | shalkie | is looking for easy, not pretty. |
| 15:50.04 | tomstokes | shalkie: That's what plenum-rated cable is for |
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| 15:50.12 | tomstokes | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plenum_cable |
| 15:52.30 | goozbach | shalkie: plenum cable |
| 15:52.33 | goozbach | ohh heh! |
| 15:55.40 | jxqz | there's a cable for every kind of fire hazard! |
| 15:56.27 | Q_Continuum | shalkie: plenum or you violate code and risk choking to death on toxic fumes |
| 16:02.06 | fungus | eightyeight, http://infobot.rikers.org/%23utah/20090213.html.gz |
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| 16:05.40 | eightyeight | ah. forgot about the bot logs |
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| 16:07.19 | eightyeight | heh |
| 16:07.21 | eightyeight | good times |
| 16:09.13 | eightyeight | i seem to recall him adding color. guess i was wrong |
| 16:10.12 | fungus | unless the logs strip the color... |
| 16:10.22 | eightyeight | i meant in his script |
| 16:10.35 | eightyeight | his script is just doing maths, and not changing the terminal formatting |
| 16:10.38 | eightyeight | shrug |
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| 16:11.15 | eightyeight | $ toilet -w 100 --gay -f bigascii12 $(date +%s) |
| 16:11.49 | eightyeight | http://aarontoponce.org/epoch.png |
| 16:16.52 | sodaplayer | starts writing a script to make his OpenWest electronics kit flash at the time. |
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| 16:42.57 | levi | Yo. |
| 16:49.02 | jxqz | ~napoleon levi |
| 16:49.02 | infobot | ACTION takes levi's girlfriend to the mall for glamor shots |
| 16:53.00 | fugue88 | This is tense. |
| 16:53.20 | fugue88 | ~celebrate |
| 16:53.20 | infobot | ACTION detonates a small nuclear device to celebrate the end of the world |
| 16:53.41 | sodaplayer | :D Happy 1400000000! |
| 16:54.01 | goozbach | nohh I missed it! |
| 16:54.03 | goozbach | dam |
| 16:54.11 | fugue88 | can be productive now |
| 16:54.25 | goozbach | by 38 seconds |
| 16:57.02 | levi | fugue88: If that was causing you to not be productive, there may be no hope of productivity. |
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| 17:14.56 | jxqz | \[\e[01;36m\]teal\[\e[0m\] |
| 17:15.01 | jxqz | oh well |
| 17:18.02 | rsimpkin1 | Anyone here interested in amature astronomy at all? |
| 17:21.50 | jxqz | I'm a professional astronomer |
| 17:21.57 | jxqz | or was, that is |
| 17:22.21 | rsimpkin1 | I guess I should have clarified... recreational astronomy? You in to that as well jxqz? |
| 17:22.34 | rsimpkin1 | I hear most pro astronomers are actually physics majors. |
| 17:22.38 | shalkie | jalbretsen: ^^ |
| 17:24.27 | rsimpkin1 | It seems that amature astronomy would be very much in-line with geek culture. Lots of electronics these days. Very complicated things to go learn.... seems like a perfect match! |
| 17:24.45 | rsimpkin1 | I'll post something to PLUG. |
| 17:26.07 | jalbretsen | Did someone say Astronomy? |
| 17:27.04 | jalbretsen | rsimpkin1: Degree titles vary, but professional astronomers do have a strong background in physics |
| 17:27.14 | rsimpkin1 | jalbretsen: Yo. |
| 17:27.22 | jalbretsen | the ones with PhD by their named that is |
| 17:27.37 | rsimpkin1 | I'm just curious who in here does recreational astronomy. |
| 17:27.44 | rsimpkin1 | Or, enjoys it rather. |
| 17:27.46 | jalbretsen | I have a masters in physics and my project was astronomy |
| 17:28.55 | jalbretsen | Utah-wise, BYU has an astronomical society, no idea of it's state. There is also a Ogden Astronomical Society that meets monthly I believe |
| 17:28.58 | rsimpkin1 | Okay, let me ask a dumb question. Do people who have degrees in physics and astronomy typically enjoy recreational astronomy as well? |
| 17:29.03 | jalbretsen | *its |
| 17:29.13 | jalbretsen | some do, some don't |
| 17:29.33 | rsimpkin1 | Do you? |
| 17:29.48 | jalbretsen | not lately |
| 17:31.19 | jalbretsen | one of my co-workers a Weber State has done some, I know he's taken some good pictures of comets and other events in the past |
| 17:31.35 | jalbretsen | he's one of the PhD Physics professors |
| 17:40.07 | jxqz | rsimpkin1: there's a great community event every Wednesday evening on the roof of the south physics building at UU |
| 17:40.25 | jxqz | lots of telescopes, lots of astro students and sometimes professors |
| 17:40.58 | jxqz | recreational astronomy typically being just a small subset of optical astro |
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| 18:00.15 | romanovic | has anyone tried that open source btsync alternative yet? http://syncthing.net/ |
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| 18:37.45 | jxqz | just finishing up the 2nd coat now |
| 18:44.20 | pashdown | romanovic: looks cool. i like btsync |
| 18:51.06 | bmurdock | romanovic, I've been following another open source alternative called clearskies, but I haven't seen syncthing yet |
| 18:51.15 | bmurdock | I love btsync, but do worry about the closed source... |
| 18:51.54 | bmurdock | https://github.com/jewel/clearskies |
| 18:54.15 | pashdown | someone should get those clearskies and syncthing people together |
| 18:56.47 | romanovic | yeah |
| 18:57.04 | romanovic | i know an open btsync replacement is one of the FSF's high priority projects |
| 18:57.23 | romanovic | they link to this wiki listing projects in development. it mentions both clearskies and syncthing http://libreplanet.org/wiki/Group:SyncReplacement |
| 19:01.11 | youtah | Who's good with a shovel? |
| 19:01.15 | youtah | Who wants to come help me |
| 19:01.24 | youtah | who wants to help me smooth out my neighbors yard? |
| 19:01.45 | shalkie | I would be willing too, provided it is north of centerville. |
| 19:01.55 | youtah | This...... |
| 19:01.56 | youtah | https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/t1.0-9/10325183_10203972672621383_8996421091420543233_n.jpg |
| 19:02.04 | youtah | Turned into this..... |
| 19:02.05 | youtah | https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc3/t1.0-9/10325639_10204008595359429_3878452549984280782_n.jpg |
| 19:02.21 | youtah | and this |
| 19:02.22 | youtah | https://scontent-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc3/t1.0-9/1239562_10204008693481882_7035954666083328515_n.jpg |
| 19:02.40 | youtah | and ultimately this |
| 19:02.41 | youtah | https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc1/t1.0-9/72145_10204008699882042_7342813671384577826_n.jpg |
| 19:03.48 | goozbach | ha ha |
| 19:04.08 | youtah | All they were supposed to do is bring top soil into my backyard |
| 19:04.09 | youtah | that's it |
| 19:04.11 | youtah | nothing more |
| 19:04.13 | youtah | *sigh* |
| 19:04.51 | shalkie | Oh right, your totally not north of centerville. Sorry dude. That sucks. |
| 19:06.24 | youtah | lol |
| 19:06.36 | youtah | Keep going north, you'll eventually reach me |
| 19:07.18 | youtah | That's my neighbors front lawn btw |
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| 19:18.34 | rsimpkins | What a disaster youtah! |
| 19:18.40 | youtah | yeah |
| 19:18.42 | rsimpkins | Fortunatley it is just dirt. |
| 19:18.47 | youtah | and grass |
| 19:18.53 | youtah | I was actually laughing |
| 19:19.01 | youtah | I think I made the guy driving the skid steer feel bad |
| 19:19.08 | youtah | and then I laughed harder |
| 19:19.25 | rsimpkins | You'd think they would have thought to check the stability of the soild BEFORE driving on it. |
| 19:19.32 | davido_ | Man, what a mess. Did it tear up any sprinklers? |
| 19:20.05 | youtah | No sprinklers |
| 19:20.08 | youtah | were harmed |
| 19:20.18 | youtah | rsimpkins, they had driven over it like 10x previously |
| 19:20.57 | davido_ | Now what do you do? Looks like at minimum there's going to be re-filling with soil, and then replacing sod. Fortunately that amount of sod isn't expensive. |
| 19:21.22 | davido_ | Is the neighbor ...um... upset? :) |
| 19:21.40 | youtah | lol |
| 19:21.41 | youtah | it's a rental |
| 19:21.49 | youtah | I already contacted the land lord and the hoa |
| 19:22.00 | youtah | neither care as long as it gets fixed |
| 19:22.05 | youtah | we're waiting for it to "Dry out" |
| 19:22.14 | youtah | until Friday and then will finish fixing ir |
| 19:22.16 | youtah | it |
| 19:22.57 | davido_ | good luck with it. |
| 19:23.39 | youtah | yeah thanks |
| 19:34.30 | jxqz | it is one of my life's goals to never subject myself to an HOA |
| 19:36.07 | youtah | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PN_WMG2Q5pQ |
| 19:37.37 | eightyeight | just did my first commit to svn.debian.org |
| 19:37.39 | eightyeight | w00t |
| 19:37.42 | eightyeight | heh |
| 19:37.43 | youtah | Woot! |
| 19:41.42 | youtah | http://i.imgur.com/mT7E03b.gif |
| 19:46.27 | opapo | is it common for a webservice to use a seperate session for each call? |
| 19:49.38 | davido_ | A separate session? Or a separate server that isn't doing a good job of dealing with sessions instantiated by another server? |
| 19:50.23 | opapo | Here's the situation: when an html script is placed on the server where php and apache are... |
| 19:50.43 | opapo | the javascript runs fine |
| 19:50.47 | opapo | and with one session |
| 19:51.31 | opapo | then if the html file is put on a different server the javascript calls to the api use a seperate session for each call. |
| 19:52.26 | davido_ | And *different server* is being hit at a totally different ip? I mean you're not mingling calls to each of two servers? |
| 19:53.03 | opapo | server A has html and javascipt with one IP. |
| 19:53.13 | opapo | server B has php and a different IP |
| 19:53.36 | davido_ | And no call to server B will ever be routed to server A? (that's what I'm trying to eliminate as a possible source of trouble) |
| 19:53.40 | opapo | when server A calls server B each transaction has a different Session |
| 19:54.05 | opapo | B is the source of the API |
| 19:54.10 | davido_ | I see. |
| 19:54.11 | opapo | B does not call A |
| 19:54.25 | davido_ | So the question is why is server A getting a new session every time it hits server B, right? |
| 19:54.49 | davido_ | Is server A accepting cookies from B? |
| 19:55.05 | opapo | It may be accepting cookies |
| 19:55.13 | davido_ | It probably *should* be. |
| 19:55.27 | opapo | I need to account for both cases |
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| 19:55.58 | davido_ | Server B needs some way of maintaining state between calls. If that mechanism is cookies, then A must accept the cookies and pass the same cookie back on each request. |
| 19:56.16 | davido_ | This is "in theory" ;) |
| 19:56.45 | opapo | Would it be better to authenticate every transaction? |
| 19:57.15 | davido_ | Authentication isn't as cheap (probably) as sending a cookie back and forth. I would think that would be up to the API's documentation to specify. |
| 19:57.35 | opapo | We are writing the API |
| 19:58.13 | opapo | If we authenticate each time, then we can avoid the need to keep cookies or state |
| 19:58.29 | davido_ | Ok. So if the API uses cookies, it would give "A" a cookie, and would want to get the same session cookie back from A on next request. ...which is back to the original problem of what's happening to the cookie it gives to A. |
| 19:59.08 | opapo | I don't know what is happening to the cookie. that's part of the problem |
| 19:59.50 | davido_ | So "A" has some user agent that it hitting "B". Sometimes that user agent must be configured to accept cookies. |
| 20:00.14 | davido_ | I'm not familiar enough with user agents built in PHP, so I wouldn't be able to get more specific than "in theory" |
| 20:01.24 | davido_ | Perl's [mod://LWP::UserAgent] has a cookie jar that can be set up to deal mostly behind the scenes with the cookies. |
| 20:03.32 | sodaplayer | Hey, I'm tempted to try out ZFS or BTRFS for my personal laptop. Can someone convince me to do or not do so? |
| 20:04.21 | sodaplayer | The main use of the laptop will probably be school work and personal projects. |
| 20:06.15 | opapo | davido_: I will look into the cookie issue. What would happen if someone turns cookies off? Stuff would need to be passed back and forth still. |
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| 20:06.40 | davido_ | With cookies off, you would have no choice but to authenticate on each request. |
| 20:07.22 | opapo | could I store cookie data in javascript and send that back after login? |
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| 20:10.38 | davido_ | Well, I suppose it would be possible to pass a key embedded as a hidden field, and let the server accept that token as a session ID. But the token should be something like a sha of some session id, some server B secret, and some characteristic that must be unique to the specific transaction so that it couldn't be spoofed, and then you're getting in to inventing your own security which is always a big risk. |
| 20:11.56 | opapo | At this point is it better to just authenticate each transaction? |
| 20:12.15 | jlp_znc | I just thought of a way to get more men interested in astronomy... bikini wearing telescope attendants! it seems to work for barber shops and coffee stops, why not for public telescopes? |
| 20:31.24 | davido_ | Well, often authentication is an expensive hit... that's one of the points to bcrypt, for example; that its time complexity renders attacks that need to try lots of times mostly useless. So if you're implementing a good quality authentication system on the server, it may be prohibitively expensive to authenticate each request. Better to sort out why the client (A) is losing its cookie. |
| 20:34.16 | opapo | We are trying to figure out why the session changes between requests. |
| 20:44.07 | davido_ | Either A is not accepting it or not handing it back, or handing it back in an altered state that isn't accepted by B, or B's cookie generation mechanism is flawed, or its acceptance mechanism flawed such that when it tries to verify the cookie it got back, it doesn't match what it sent. There are generally only a few possible points of failure. |
| 20:45.11 | davido_ | it's one of those low level things that is usually handled seamlessly by libraries so that you don't have to think too much about it. |
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| 21:14.50 | opapo | The cookies are not being sent back to the server and the origin is null. I think that has something to do with it. |
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| 21:25.18 | youtah | throws Jayce into a vat of nacho cheese |
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| 21:26.04 | youtah | jlp_znc, is back too |
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| 21:42.23 | youtah | http://imgur.com/gallery/1ZEr24s |
| 21:49.25 | opapo | an ajax call with jquery will not send cookies unless you specify type jsonp |
| 21:49.37 | opapo | type json does not send cookies |
| 21:50.27 | opapo | davido_: ^^ my findings. |
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| 22:03.33 | levi | opapo: What is setting your cookie in the first place? |
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| 22:07.54 | levi | opapo: You mentioned that the trouble started when you moved something to a different server. If you don't have the cookie domain configured correctly, a cookie set in one subdomain won't apply to another. |
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| 22:37.34 | TodPunk | I think people need to decide whether their job posting is developer, programmer, or software engineer, and just stick to it. I don't mind if different companies have different names for it, I just want consistency within a given company |
| 22:38.36 | youtah | ~fish levi |
| 22:38.36 | infobot | ACTION slaps levi around with a large trout |
| 22:43.02 | levi | Ow. |
| 22:43.09 | TodPunk | you like it |
| 22:43.29 | youtah | ^ |
| 22:44.18 | unum | we have people we call programmers who do a very different sort of thing than what I do as a software engineer |
| 22:44.46 | unum | though I think their proper industry title is "spec writer" |
| 22:45.00 | TodPunk | unum: business analysts, maybe? |
| 22:45.20 | youtah | http://i.imgur.com/RvBr2sL.gif |
| 22:49.18 | youtah | http://i.imgur.com/6AVnnZY.jpg |
| 22:49.35 | youtah | That is Avicii's new $15M mansion in LA |
| 22:49.36 | levi | unum: That's a weird way to do job titles. You'd think the programmer would write code and the software engineer would write specs. |
| 22:52.50 | pashdown | i should have stayed a dj |
| 22:53.26 | TodPunk | levi: I'd expect the responsibilities to fall similarly, but probably work out to things like Jr. to Senior or something. |
| 22:54.19 | TodPunk | pashdown: you really don't strike me as someone that would have a great conversation with the likes of a skrillex. You might want to reconsider that statement, unless you really do like the skrillexes of the day |
| 22:54.40 | pashdown | yeah, that is pretty much the reason i stopped. :) |
| 22:54.53 | youtah | lol pashdown |
| 22:54.54 | TodPunk | Kids these days... |
| 22:56.37 | unum | levi: the "programmers" are using a language somewhere between a scripting language and a markup language to create specifications for surveys |
| 22:57.05 | levi | Interesting. |
| 22:57.24 | levi | There are some pretty powerful specification languages. |
| 22:57.45 | levi | Leslie Lamport wrote one, in fact. |
| 22:58.47 | unum | a client sends us a surveys, are "programmers" mark it up and load it into our surveying software |
| 22:58.54 | levi | He's also the creator of LaTeX. |
| 22:59.17 | unum | hey it's tuesday and there's no last minute distasters |
| 22:59.25 | pashdown | i thought eric schmidt had something to do with tex or latex |
| 23:00.36 | levi | Well, I'm sure a lot of people have contributed, but Leslie Lamport is the initial creator of LaTeX. He's also the most recent Turing Award winner. |
| 23:02.02 | TodPunk | unum: who on earth do you work for that does this? |
| 23:03.14 | TodPunk | I suppose this is where I say making HTML shouldn't be a technical job |
| 23:03.47 | TodPunk | should learn him some latex |
| 23:03.56 | jxqz | that's the problem |
| 23:04.00 | levi | BTW, Lambda Lounge is tonight. It's Logic Night, and William Byrd will be presenting on miniKanren. |
| 23:04.06 | jxqz | everybody thinks html is a dump-only language |
| 23:04.18 | jxqz | equivalent to a trash compactor on the death star |
| 23:04.41 | jnbek | jxqz: wait... you're saying it's not? |
| 23:04.45 | jnbek | dang it |
| 23:04.55 | jxqz | as long as it is treated that way, it never will be the elegant, clean, expressive markup it *should* be |
| 23:05.01 | youtah | One of my friends married the owner of Area 51 |
| 23:05.10 | youtah | and I still have yet to go |
| 23:05.18 | jxqz | youtah: your friend married the guberment? |
| 23:05.23 | levi | He's a Postdoc at the U, a co-author of "The Reasoned Schemer", and a co-designer of mini-Kanren. If you know Clojure, mini-Kanren is the inspiration for core logic. |
| 23:05.23 | jnbek | bahh |
| 23:05.26 | jnbek | I was beaten |
| 23:05.28 | jnbek | :-P |
| 23:05.39 | youtah | wrong area 51 |
| 23:05.53 | jxqz | you've probably never heard of area 52 |
| 23:05.54 | TodPunk | levi: is this anywhere in real civilization, or is this in the northern barrens? |
| 23:06.49 | *** part/#utah Nemus (~Nemus@unaffiliated/nemus) |
| 23:07.59 | levi | It's at SLCC's Miller Corporate Partnership Center, which is in Sandy right next to the freeway. |
| 23:08.12 | levi | http://www.meetup.com/Lambda-Lounge-Utah/events/164368252/ |
| 23:10.32 | TodPunk | So northern barrens. OK. |
| 23:10.36 | TodPunk | I kid, I kid. |
| 23:10.57 | TodPunk | http://johnearnest.github.io/Octo.html |
| 23:11.09 | TodPunk | For all you chip8 fanatics |
| 23:11.32 | levi | It's in the northern barrens rather than the Great Southern Wasteland. |
| 23:11.37 | pashdown | chip8 lol |
| 23:11.54 | TodPunk | levi: did you know Orem is swahili for "Oasis"? |
| 23:12.23 | pashdown | from sanity? |
| 23:12.35 | TodPunk | s/sanity/reality/ |
| 23:12.46 | TodPunk | I only live here because I was promised Utopia |
| 23:12.58 | TodPunk | shakes an angry fist at the sky |
| 23:13.02 | pashdown | someday |
| 23:13.28 | TodPunk | By that time I'll have laid out my own fiber |
| 23:13.57 | TodPunk | or I'll move right before that happens. either way |
| 23:16.18 | levi | TodPunk: Sandy is English for the way the beach feels. |
| 23:16.52 | TodPunk | "outdoorsy, and never going to get out of your shoes" |
| 23:21.09 | TodPunk | should just move to Murray |
| 23:25.32 | youtah | is in Lehi with 100mbps up/down fiber for $65 a month |
| 23:25.36 | youtah | to home |
| 23:26.32 | TodPunk | so jealous |
| 23:30.23 | levi | youtah: Where did you get that from? |
| 23:30.39 | youtah | Veracity |
| 23:30.42 | youtah | I am in Lehi |
| 23:30.46 | youtah | They are both ISP and carrier |
| 23:30.58 | youtah | in Traverse Mountain |
| 23:31.10 | bmurdock | does the $65/month go up after the first 6 months or something? |
| 23:31.15 | youtah | nope |
| 23:31.20 | youtah | straight $65 a month |
| 23:31.24 | youtah | that includes taxes |
| 23:31.39 | youtah | no contract |
| 23:33.06 | levi | Ah, well, I don't suppose they do that elsewhere in Lehi? |
| 23:33.17 | youtah | They do |
| 23:33.18 | youtah | yes |
| 23:37.16 | bmurdock | youtah, why do you have to make me dislike comcast even more? |
| 23:37.24 | youtah | lol |
| 23:37.31 | youtah | Static IP address |
| 23:37.34 | youtah | no filtering |
| 23:37.36 | bmurdock | it's unproductive when I have so few options |
| 23:37.50 | youtah | Oh wait |
| 23:37.53 | youtah | one second... |
| 23:37.59 | youtah | let me go ahead and RDP into my desktop at home |
| 23:38.07 | youtah | WITHOUT ANY INTERRUPTION |
| 23:38.21 | youtah | j/k.... I am outta here |
