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| 01:52.24 | winsoff | I like having beach fires, but hauling the driftwood is such a pain. Any suggestions for lashing together all of the driftwood--other than my obvious "JUST WRAP ROPE AROUND IT AND KNOT IT" |
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| 01:52.38 | winsoff | Like any tips/tricks/experiences, that is. |
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| 02:06.36 | TodPunk | winsoff: there are very specific ways to knot the rope for hauling, and there is an entirely different set of scenarios for "lashing together all" of them at once. Which are you going for? |
| 02:08.10 | TodPunk | For log hauling, the timber hitch: http://www.animatedknots.com/timber/ |
| 02:08.39 | TodPunk | For just lashing a bunch of driftwood together (why would you do this?) it really just is "wrap rope around it and knot it somehow" |
| 02:13.07 | winsoff | Well, the standard procedure for gathering wood for a fire involves a lot of legwork with no rope--taking back everything you can put in your arms involves more distance than could be worthwhile. |
| 02:13.41 | winsoff | So, if I instead used a large amount of rope to tie a bunch together that I could drag along the sand, it could cut down on the walking. |
| 02:14.16 | winsoff | But say, if I have a lot of big logs, TodPunk, are you saying I could just use the same length of rope and just tie a bunch of timber hitches? |
| 02:20.33 | TodPunk | winsoff: personally if I wanted to haul a lot of stuff across a sandy beach, I'd use a tarp or net as a sack and tie the rope up to that |
| 02:20.48 | winsoff | Another genius idear. |
| 02:20.49 | TodPunk | rockier beach, tarp |
| 03:40.32 | shalkie | Wow, I have some nice neighbors. They cut my lawn while I was away at openwest. |
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| 04:38.06 | davido_ | lol, either nice, or not willing to let a home on their street have 12" long grass. ;) (j/k) |
| 04:40.36 | shalkie | davido_: The weeds were 12, the grass was only about 6. ;) |
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| 04:57.33 | davido_ | lol. My neighbor has a strip of grass 2.5' wide adjacent to his driveway, and that is separated from my lawn by a 3" concrete border. |
| 04:58.02 | davido_ | He never mows it, so I do because it looks terrible, and has the appearance of being just part of my lawn anyway. |
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| 15:22.40 | tomstokes | I'm always tempted to go mow the front yard of a guy who lives on my street |
| 15:22.59 | tomstokes | At minimum, it would keep all those weeds in his front yard from spreading to everyone else's nicely maintained yards |
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| 16:03.00 | romanovic | needs to do something about his back lawn for the same reason |
| 16:03.49 | romanovic | for some reason, my front lawn stays beautiful, lush, and weed-free, but the back lawn does not. i suspect this is because it faces west |
| 16:04.15 | romanovic | gets the hot afternoon sun |
| 16:05.19 | tomstokes | You could consider over-seeding with a different variety of grass that tolerates full sun better |
| 16:06.03 | romanovic | I spread some weed killer, and it appeared to shrivel and kill them at first. but 2-3 weeks later, twisted mutant dandelions managed to grow in anyway |
| 16:06.39 | programmerq | at my first house that I owned, I tried so hard to stay on top of the lawn |
| 16:06.44 | romanovic | tomstokes: any suggestions as to variety? i tried overseeding last year. i can't remember which variety but it didn't work |
| 16:06.45 | programmerq | it went backwards while I lived there :/ |
| 16:07.13 | programmerq | I would regularly pour seeds everywhere and water them like crazy. the weeds just always grew back. |
| 16:07.24 | tomstokes | programmerq: I'm actually in the same boat and I'm not entirely sure. I'm thinking I may just look for a good seed blend and then hope that whatever variety in the blend works best wins out |
| 16:08.12 | programmerq | There were some days where I would do nothing other than pull weeds by hand from the yard by the bucketful. |
| 16:08.22 | romanovic | i wish it weren't so late in the spring. i'll probably have to wait until fall to try overseeding again |
| 16:08.45 | programmerq | I had something similar to this: http://www.amazon.com/dp/B0030MIHAU |
| 16:09.01 | programmerq | I'd pull the tap root as best I could, and spray some weed killer in there for good measure. |
| 16:09.39 | programmerq | still didn't seem to help. |
| 16:09.55 | programmerq | my new house is new construction, so I have to put a yard in. |
| 16:10.11 | romanovic | ooh i want one |
| 16:10.19 | programmerq | I'm about to just take an early distribution from my 401k and get it done |
| 16:10.40 | programmerq | since I'm hourly now, it is a lot harder to justify my spending hours and hours away from work doing stuff I'm not very good at. |
| 16:11.24 | programmerq | if the grading was done it wouldn't be such a big deal, to be honest. |
| 16:16.59 | RyanE | Just FYI, Broadleaf killer (like for Dandelions) works by being absorbed into the leaf (if not washed off by rain for a few days). Spraying into the hole isn't doing anything but wasting it. |
| 16:18.00 | programmerq | RyanE: yeah, it was more to make me feel a bit better. |
| 16:18.10 | RyanE | yeah, how'd that go for ya? :) |
| 16:18.11 | programmerq | "gonna dance on your grave dandelion!" |
| 16:18.41 | programmerq | there's probably something better to throw in a hole to deal with any residual root bits |
| 16:19.03 | programmerq | but I don't know of anything that wouldn't kill the grass further |
| 16:19.12 | programmerq | though that wouldn't have been a problem in my case. |
| 16:19.14 | RyanE | strong grass is the best weedkiller. |
| 16:19.28 | RyanE | but it's a neverending battle, that's for sure. |
| 16:19.29 | programmerq | there was so much thatch buildup |
| 16:19.55 | programmerq | I called around to see if anyone could come de-thatch |
| 16:20.08 | programmerq | and most companies were like "well, we could, but chances are you don't really need that" |
| 16:20.11 | programmerq | and I would describe my lawn |
| 16:20.25 | programmerq | and they'd agreed it was an economical thing to try |
| 16:20.36 | programmerq | or at least a decent alternative to just ripping out the lawn and starting over |
| 16:20.55 | programmerq | which is something we would have done, but decided to sell the house instead. |
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| 16:43.24 | youtah | http://imgur.com/gallery/lsoomRq |
| 16:46.15 | RyanE | nice. |
| 16:47.20 | RyanE | Used to have neighbors whose daughter was 'stealth'. We wouldn't hear a door open, we wouldn't hear her come in, but we'd just notice she was there, playing quietly in the corner. |
| 16:47.37 | RyanE | she was maybe 3-4 at the time. |
| 16:47.52 | youtah | lol |
| 16:48.05 | youtah | best kind of neighborhoods IMO |
| 16:48.29 | youtah | where everyone trusts each other, and is okay with letting the community (safely) help raise their child |
| 16:48.34 | youtah | which I think is needed |
| 16:48.35 | RyanE | yeah, her parents were pretty 'free-range'. |
| 16:48.48 | youtah | but it's getting to be a scarier world |
| 16:49.08 | RyanE | not really. statistics show it's pretty much safer now than it's ever been. |
| 16:49.16 | RyanE | just everyone watches the news, which sells fear. |
| 16:49.23 | youtah | that could be true |
| 16:49.42 | youtah | I have always wondered if it isn't the rapid spread of information that makes it appear worse |
| 16:49.53 | youtah | but I have never seen any stats to prove (or disprove) it |
| 16:50.00 | youtah | of course I never looked either |
| 16:50.58 | RyanE | http://www.ivillage.com/kid-safety-then-and-now/6-a-443840 |
| 16:51.14 | youtah | is ivillage a reputable site? |
| 16:51.53 | RyanE | free range kids (www.freerangekids.com) is. |
| 16:52.11 | RyanE | but I don't have a specific link on there for safety now vs. then. |
| 16:55.08 | pashdown | there are a lot less bears and wolves now |
| 16:55.22 | RyanE | true. :) |
| 16:55.51 | youtah | pashdown, that's because they made it illegal for bears to attack people |
| 16:56.01 | pashdown | laff |
| 16:56.36 | RyanE | Great keynote at OpenWest, pashdown. |
| 16:58.22 | jxqz | it was a real A 440.0 Hz |
| 16:58.43 | eightyeight | 432.0 Hz is the One True Hz |
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| 17:02.42 | youtah | How rude |
| 17:03.15 | youtah | A sorority wouldn't let me join them just because I am a guy. Maybe I'll open up a sexual discrimination lawsuit. |
| 17:05.30 | jxqz | youtah: tell them you're currently exploring your gender |
| 17:05.47 | jxqz | if it's ambiguous they can't do anything |
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| 17:14.03 | tensai | ~lart Jayce |
| 17:14.04 | infobot | smacks Jayce up side the head with a clue-by-4 |
| 17:16.29 | jxqz | ~napoleon tensai |
| 17:16.30 | infobot | ACTION hunts woverines in Alaska with tensai's cousins |
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| 17:45.28 | tensai | it's about time, right? |
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| 17:47.02 | tensai | still need to revive my irc proxy |
| 17:47.27 | pashdown | thanks ryane |
| 17:48.15 | jlp_znc | youtah: dogs and cats, living together! |
| 17:51.35 | goozbach | heytensai! |
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| 18:01.00 | youtah | lol jxqz |
| 18:01.08 | youtah | just read your response (I was at lunch) |
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| 18:07.55 | programmerq | I want to put a presentation together about test driving nginx configs. |
| 18:08.14 | programmerq | I'd like to start presenting at conferences, and that's the most interesting topic that I think I could talk about. |
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| 18:14.17 | youtah | http://www.ksl.com/?sid=29854334&nid=148&title=fiber-internet-coming-to-park-city&s_cid=queue-12 |
| 18:15.10 | youtah | pashdown, you guys in hot pursuit of this? ^ |
| 18:15.37 | pashdown | not directly, i've pushed macquarie their way. |
| 18:16.28 | youtah | as an investor for the city to setup the infrastructure themselves? |
| 18:17.54 | jxqz | sounds like a job for: Fiber Man! |
| 18:18.07 | pashdown | the rfp is really just testing the waters. |
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| 18:18.28 | pashdown | it also didn't have a lot of time allowed |
| 18:19.12 | youtah | ah |
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| 18:20.07 | youtah | well, pashdown you'll have to excuse me for not introducing myself. You were pretty swamped with people tugging at your sleeve |
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| 18:24.18 | eightyeight | jxqz: you should enjoy this post: http://www.rdrop.com/~half/Creations/Puzzles/visualizing.4D/ |
| 18:26.31 | youtah | So I just have to say, that I really enjoyed OpenWest |
| 18:26.47 | youtah | I just wish I could have actually sat through some of the classes, or attended the whole conference. |
| 18:37.44 | fugue88 | Oh man! I totally missed you there, youtah! |
| 18:38.08 | youtah | did you see someone running around with two cameras? |
| 18:38.13 | fugue88 | Nope. |
| 18:38.19 | youtah | I have a FANTASTIC photo of shalkie btw |
| 18:38.24 | fugue88 | Er, don't think so, anyway. |
| 18:38.34 | youtah | I was trying to be low profile |
| 18:38.48 | jxqz | youtah: u were that 2 camera guy? |
| 18:39.04 | youtah | jxqz, two Nikons |
| 18:39.07 | youtah | yeah |
| 18:39.15 | youtah | fozzmoo_, with all the video gear |
| 18:39.37 | jxqz | you were taking pix right next to me during the panel on Friday |
| 18:39.59 | youtah | oh? |
| 18:40.04 | youtah | where were you sitting? |
| 18:40.05 | jxqz | ~shalkie's beard |
| 18:40.10 | jxqz | on the front row |
| 18:40.21 | youtah | ah |
| 18:40.30 | youtah | I was trying to be sneaky |
| 18:40.38 | youtah | and not throw pashdown off, by making him camera shy |
| 18:40.46 | youtah | although I suppose he's pretty used to it by now |
| 18:41.51 | jxqz | your cameras made impressive camera sounds though |
| 18:41.59 | youtah | rofl |
| 18:42.37 | youtah | "click ka-thunk" |
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| 18:43.11 | programmerq | after seeing Parker's I want one too: http://www.builda3dprinter.eu/shop/kossel-kit/kossel-mini/ |
| 18:44.07 | programmerq | this has a bunch of what I'd need, but doesn't have the controller nor power supply. |
| 18:56.03 | youtah | http://imgur.com/a/ihsbr |
| 18:56.08 | youtah | ^ Photos from OpenWest |
| 19:01.04 | goozbach | sad to have missed it |
| 19:11.55 | eightyeight | why does convert(1) produce such small GIFs compared to PNGs? |
| 19:16.16 | eightyeight | hmm. bits per pixel might be my ticket |
| 19:18.52 | eightyeight | nope. :/ |
| 19:28.38 | programmerq | youtah: nice |
| 19:39.20 | Jayce | pedofox? http://i.imgur.com/rdFjTPt.jpg |
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| 19:48.12 | eightyeight | interesting that gimp defaults produce smaller png files than convert(1) |
| 19:50.10 | eightyeight | not smaller gif files though. quite the opposite, in fact |
| 19:50.12 | eightyeight | strang |
| 19:50.14 | eightyeight | e |
| 19:51.45 | sodaplayer | eightyeight: What kind of image stuff are you doing? |
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| 19:54.53 | eightyeight | sodaplayer: so, you know the web of trust i printed off sat? |
| 19:55.21 | eightyeight | $ convert wot.ps wot.gif # produces about 1.9 MB file |
| 19:55.21 | sodaplayer | Yeah |
| 19:55.31 | eightyeight | $ convert wot.ps wot.png # produces about 12 MB file |
| 19:55.45 | sodaplayer | Ahh |
| 19:55.50 | eightyeight | with convert(1) and optipng(1), i've been able to get it as small as 3.9 MB |
| 19:56.03 | eightyeight | curious why GIF is so small compared to PNG |
| 19:56.08 | eightyeight | so, i'm learning about image formats |
| 19:56.11 | eightyeight | heh |
| 19:56.59 | Jayce | depending on the content, how much whitespace/color changes when going across the horizontal line |
| 19:57.43 | sodaplayer | What happens when you use a PNG-8? |
| 19:58.28 | eightyeight | $ convert wot.ps -colors 256 -depth 8 wot.png # produces about 4.2 MB file |
| 19:58.35 | eightyeight | still > 2x the size of the GIF |
| 19:59.03 | eightyeight | removing the alpha channel to the background color of white seems to increase file size, actually |
| 20:00.32 | eightyeight | actually, it doesn't seem to change it |
| 20:00.34 | eightyeight | that's good |
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| 20:01.47 | eightyeight | however, gimp exports that wot.ps file to wot.png at ~3.0 MB |
| 20:01.55 | eightyeight | and optipng(1) can bring it down to about 2.5 MB |
| 20:02.13 | eightyeight | curious what the defaults are in gimp, and how to bring those into convert(1) |
| 20:04.13 | eightyeight | which is still larger than the GIF created by convert(1) |
| 20:04.16 | eightyeight | heh |
| 20:18.15 | jxqz | eightyeight: mv wot.gif wot.png # done |
| 20:18.31 | sodaplayer | Anyone know when the recorded sessions from OpenWest will be posted? |
| 20:20.38 | davido__ | sodaplayer It was over 500gb of video and audio files, and in most cases the audio was recorded separately, necessitating syncing up prior to rendering to a format that is youtube friendly. That's the long answer, the short answer is "As soon as it's done, which should be real soon now." |
| 20:21.33 | davido__ | fozzmoo_ is working on it, but it is a pretty big undertaking. |
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| 20:31.21 | davido__ | I do think that a few are probably already there under the utos channel. |
| 20:33.15 | goozbach | something like 600G of media, right? |
| 20:33.19 | jxqz | whatever you do, don't watch mine, it was awful |
| 20:33.51 | davido__ | It was well over 500G... at least that's what an email I read earlier said. |
| 20:33.58 | davido__ | jxqz, which was yours? |
| 20:33.59 | shalkie | Yes there are some up already. |
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| 20:35.51 | jxqz | {num|sci}py |
| 20:36.03 | davido__ | Ah, I didn't get to that track. |
| 20:36.17 | davido__ | How could that be awful though; already sounds interesting. |
| 20:36.51 | shalkie | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:42.09 | davido__ | That one was pretty good. |
| 20:42.14 | davido__ | I think I caught most of it. |
| 20:42.55 | sodaplayer | Ahh neat :D The one I was looking for is already up. |
| 20:43.55 | youtah | Adi gave me his email address |
| 20:44.09 | youtah | he wants to know if he can have a copy of my NSA lightning storm photo |
| 20:44.24 | jxqz | haha |
| 20:44.38 | jxqz | you should put in a Sauron eye too |
| 20:45.35 | davido__ | Oh yeah, I did catch most of his privacy talk; I was behind one of the cameras (probably whichever one is most misaligned) |
| 20:45.50 | youtah | https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/t31.0-8/1274547_10202106925458870_489606632_o.jpg |
| 20:46.42 | sodaplayer | youtah: Whoa that's pretty. |
| 20:47.05 | davido__ | Is the audio a little buzzy? |
| 20:49.27 | youtah | Hurry and post your revenge porn before it's illegal in Utah |
| 20:49.45 | shalkie | blinks |
| 20:49.48 | shalkie | What? |
| 20:49.52 | youtah | Comes into effect tonight at Midnight |
| 20:50.01 | youtah | http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/politics/57920731-90/bill-com-education-hunting.html.csp |
| 20:50.53 | davido__ | Or use XMission's tor node. |
| 20:51.03 | youtah | lol |
| 20:51.16 | youtah | I am personally excited for the 80mph zones |
| 20:51.39 | jnbek | ya me too |
| 20:51.50 | jnbek | though, does that make it kosher to drive 87 now? |
| 20:52.11 | jnbek | not that I don't typically do that already.... just be nice to know I'm closer to being clear :-P |
| 20:53.09 | youtah | lol |
| 20:53.23 | youtah | I think cops will begin to be less lenient |
| 20:55.09 | davido__ | When I'm driving between CA and UT (a couple times a year, typically), I set the cruise for 5mph over, so 85 where it's marked 80. Never had a problem. |
| 20:55.24 | davido__ | I think they're typically waiting for someone more bold than that. |
| 20:55.35 | davido__ | ...makes for a more lucrative stop. |
| 20:57.15 | jxqz | that's pushing your car that much closer to it's engineered limit |
| 20:57.32 | jxqz | which, especially for an older car can be quite dangerous |
| 20:57.45 | davido__ | I've got a turbo outback. I think it can handle it. |
| 20:58.00 | jxqz | not that driving above 50 mph is already lethal in so many ways |
| 20:58.57 | davido__ | I'm much relieved that a clean ubuntu install on a dual-boot laptop went smoothly today. :) |
| 20:59.39 | davido__ | I delayed doing it (despite tons of system error messages and an inability to enter sleep mode since upgrading to 14.04) because I didn't like the worst case scenario of being without the laptop at my OW presentations. |
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| 21:02.35 | youtah | Watching a youtube clip of a band called Avenged Sevenfold where they pulled a guy out of the audience and he is playing the lead guitar part completely unrehearsed. Supposedly. |
| 21:03.15 | youtah | jnbek, ^ |
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| 21:03.53 | jnbek | Avenged Sevenfold, eh... |
| 21:04.06 | youtah | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGbfHaqyMuw |
| 21:04.17 | youtah | They say it's not staged |
| 21:05.56 | youtah | Here's Linkin Park with two kids out of the audience https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YNkTQSLL9U4&feature=youtu.be&t=4m37s |
| 21:09.08 | jnbek | this is the one that I saw earlier https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D79kxAaMf3I |
| 21:09.34 | jnbek | likely going to become a 'trend' in this vein of metal bands |
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| 21:10.11 | youtah | probably |
| 21:11.37 | RyanE | Like the kid playing with Billy Joel on "NY State of Mind". |
| 21:12.15 | youtah | it makes it a lot of fun |
| 21:13.09 | jnbek | ya |
| 21:13.40 | jnbek | I'm not the biggest fan of Avenged Sevenfold, but my respect for them just jumped seven hundred fold :) |
| 21:13.49 | jnbek | thanks for the share youtah |
| 21:13.52 | youtah | np |
| 21:14.09 | youtah | I'm digging this 11yo playing |
| 21:14.35 | jnbek | yea, I was like all O_O |
| 21:14.52 | youtah | His resume in a youtube video |
| 21:18.31 | jxqz | jnbek: you're a tape player? |
| 21:18.36 | jxqz | playa |
| 21:19.27 | shalkie | It is good to see that there was some attempt at preventing suicide in the new bills. |
| 21:20.11 | youtah | Speaking of Tape |
| 21:20.12 | youtah | http://www.cnn.com/2014/05/08/tech/innovation/data-storage-cassette-tape-sony/ |
| 21:20.42 | youtah | "180 terabytes of data on a single cartridge" |
| 21:20.56 | youtah | Love this line |
| 21:20.58 | youtah | "That's enough jams for a really long road trip -- say, driving in Atlanta during a snowstorm." |
| 21:21.06 | youtah | goozbach ^ |
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| 21:43.21 | jnbek | jxqz: naw, I actually play, though lead guitar isn't my forte, I can cut some chords pretty alright |
| 21:44.28 | jnbek | my resume: http://www.zoelife4u.org/tracks/ |
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| 21:59.48 | youtah | http://i.imgur.com/UReJmnA.jpg |
| 22:01.48 | shalkie | That's one bad ass little Mofo. :) |
| 22:03.16 | youtah | it comes from this: http://imgur.com/gallery/lsoomRq |
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| 23:39.05 | sodaplayer | Can someone link me youtah's OW album? |
| 23:53.38 | goozbach | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:56.19 | jlp_znc | http://imgur.com/a/ihsbr |
| 23:56.27 | jlp_znc | since youtah is apparently napping |
| 23:56.52 | jlp_znc | (I hope that's it... I never actually looked at it) |
| 23:57.16 | jlp_znc | whew, it's not his goatse archive |
