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| 15:03.31 | infobot | Pedro offers you his protection. |
| 15:03.42 | jsmith | Ah, Pedro... I'd vote for him |
| 15:24.27 | Jayce^ | speaking of which: http://imgur.com/gallery/c4uBPQx |
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| 16:20.34 | eightyeight | does anyone know of a general-purpose compression algorithm that offers the ability to increase redundancy in the compressed file? if so, what? |
| 16:22.31 | goozbach | eightyeight: increase redudancy? how so? |
| 16:22.42 | eightyeight | with the compression tables |
| 16:22.54 | eightyeight | that are generally spread out throughout the compressed file |
| 16:23.00 | goozbach | equiv of of copies=X in ZFS? |
| 16:23.10 | goozbach | or whatever that option is |
| 16:23.11 | eightyeight | no |
| 16:23.19 | eightyeight | that actually creates additional files |
| 16:23.35 | eightyeight | i'm looking for something that increases the internal redundancy of a compressed file |
| 16:23.48 | eightyeight | at the expense of growing the file size |
| 16:23.58 | eightyeight | so, if it takes a hit on corruption, it could still be decompressed |
| 16:24.10 | jsmith | eightyeight: I might be naive, but I would think that "compression" and "increased redundancy" would be at odds. |
| 16:24.32 | goozbach | what's the original problem you're trying to solve? |
| 16:24.37 | eightyeight | well, there _is_ some redundancy in compression algs |
| 16:24.42 | goozbach | compress twice? |
| 16:24.50 | eightyeight | not necessarily |
| 16:24.54 | goozbach | foo.copya foo.copyb |
| 16:24.59 | goozbach | :D |
| 16:25.21 | eightyeight | think of it like reed-solomon error correction, within the archive |
| 16:25.25 | fugue88 | So, maybe something to add error-correction codes to a compressed file, to make recovery from random corruption more likely? |
| 16:25.30 | fugue88 | Ah, heh, yeah. |
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| 16:26.02 | eightyeight | so, it could withstand say, 10% bit corruption, and still be decompressed successfully |
| 16:26.30 | fugue88 | You'd think there'd be a separate utility that could do that for any file... |
| 16:26.36 | fugue88 | isn't finding one though |
| 16:26.43 | eightyeight | yeah. it's surprising, actually |
| 16:26.54 | eightyeight | seeing as though how much people depend on a '*.tar.gz' for backups |
| 16:27.03 | eightyeight | and how easily corruptable they are |
| 16:27.09 | goozbach | so your workflow would be |
| 16:27.22 | goozbach | tar -c | reupifiy | gzip |
| 16:27.38 | goozbach | where reupify is the error correction tool? |
| 16:27.44 | fugue88 | No, more like tar -c | gzip | reupify |
| 16:27.45 | eightyeight | or "tar --solomon -czf backup.car.gz /path/to/backup/" |
| 16:28.21 | fugue88 | eightyeight: Sounds like a good patch you're getting ready to propose... ;) |
| 16:28.28 | eightyeight | heh |
| 16:28.39 | eightyeight | flexes his lacking C muscles |
| 16:29.01 | eightyeight | here's my problem: |
| 16:29.02 | goozbach | http://www.gzip.org/zlib/zlib_tech.html talks about the design decision here |
| 16:29.15 | eightyeight | i have a compressed archive of my wife's website from ~2008 |
| 16:29.18 | eightyeight | she wants it restored |
| 16:29.26 | eightyeight | when i created the archive, i verified it could be restored |
| 16:29.35 | eightyeight | from 2008-2012, it sat on ext4 |
| 16:29.41 | eightyeight | in 2012 it was added to zfs |
| 16:29.57 | eightyeight | it cannot be decompressed. fails with 'decoder error' |
| 16:30.11 | eightyeight | i'm guessing bit rot during those 4 years |
| 16:30.21 | eightyeight | that renders the compressed archive unrecoverable |
| 16:30.44 | eightyeight | it would be nice to have internal redundancy built into the compression alg to withstand some bit flips |
| 16:30.52 | goozbach | ohh that's stinky |
| 16:31.07 | goozbach | hasn't been touched since 2012? |
| 16:31.30 | eightyeight | and before that, since 2008 when it was initially created |
| 16:32.07 | fugue88 | archive.org helpful? |
| 16:32.25 | eightyeight | nay. i had a robots.txt that disallowed / |
| 16:32.26 | eightyeight | :( |
| 16:32.37 | fugue88 | Ouch. |
| 16:32.43 | goozbach | didn't store an md5sum or the like with it? |
| 16:32.45 | eightyeight | yeah. learned that mistake. |
| 16:32.52 | goozbach | to verify bit rot? |
| 16:32.52 | eightyeight | goozbach: no. heh. should have |
| 16:33.08 | eightyeight | it could be that the transfer from ext4 -> zfs didn't bring all the bits |
| 16:33.21 | eightyeight | but i _always_ use rsync(1), and i _always_ run it twice |
| 16:33.33 | goozbach | you don't have the source of that mothballed somewhere? |
| 16:33.34 | eightyeight | so, i'm doubting that it didn't transfer all the bits successfully |
| 16:33.36 | goozbach | :) |
| 16:33.48 | eightyeight | i have some drives at home that _might_ have the data, but not likely |
| 16:34.08 | goozbach | has like 10 old hard drives (PATA) which belong to various old LVM groups he needs to get the data off of |
| 16:34.15 | eightyeight | yup |
| 16:34.19 | eightyeight | this is a 20G IDE |
| 16:34.21 | eightyeight | heh |
| 16:34.34 | eightyeight | i have a 100G IDE somewhere, that _might_ also have the data |
| 16:34.38 | eightyeight | but i'm not hopefully |
| 16:34.41 | eightyeight | s/y$// |
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| 16:41.26 | fugue88 | eightyeight: Maybe this: https://pypi.python.org/pypi/zfec |
| 16:41.50 | fugue88 | Although I'd prefer in a situation like this that used the original file as-is, and provided the codes as a small extra file. |
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| 17:03.14 | levi | Anyone who's interested in language design should check this out: http://www.more-magic.net/posts/internals-gc.html |
| 17:04.43 | levi | It's a nice description of some implementation details of Chicken Scheme, which uses a clever strategy devised by Henry Baker to compile Scheme-like languages to C via continuation-passing-style transformation and a clever hack with the C stack. |
| 17:05.27 | levi | It includes an efficient generational garbage collector that uses the C stack as the nursery. :) |
| 17:06.40 | levi | Even if you aren't interested in Scheme at all, it's useful for getting an understanding of continuations and continuation-passing-style, which everyone doing Javascript programming these days could benefit from. |
| 17:07.24 | youtah | flings nachos in Jayce^'s general direction. Hits fozzmoo & neybar_work on accident instead. |
| 17:07.44 | fozzmoo | Hey. I'm on liquids only today! |
| 17:08.18 | youtah | nachos is a liquid.... |
| 17:08.39 | youtah | looks around hoping no one will refute youtah's claim |
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| 17:12.33 | shalkie | hands fozzmoo a blendmaster |
| 17:14.29 | jsmith | youtah: No argument from me, but if you're eating three-day-old nachos (the liquid state), I feel really sorry for you |
| 17:14.35 | fugue88 | youtah: 1, reason: 0 |
| 17:14.44 | jsmith | fugue88: :-) |
| 17:14.52 | fugue88 | :) |
| 17:15.05 | goozbach | nacho cheese is a liquid |
| 17:15.21 | goozbach | at proper temp of course |
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| 17:45.11 | jxqz | ~nacho |
| 17:45.12 | infobot | Tonight I wrestle the seven strongest men in town, maybe the world. |
| 17:49.29 | eightyeight | fugue88: interesting. i'll have to check that out. thx |
| 18:04.05 | ldav15 | eightyeight: Never tried this, but heard of it a while ago. Maybe it'll give you something recoverable... https://sourceforge.net/projects/ziprec/ |
| 18:04.37 | eightyeight | that is for the ZIP/DEFLATE compressed files |
| 18:04.40 | eightyeight | this is LZMA |
| 18:05.14 | eightyeight | (in the case of recovering this specific archive) |
| 18:05.22 | ldav15 | ah. Won't work then. |
| 18:05.56 | eightyeight | yeah. i found lziprecover(1), which uses lzip, which is supossedly a simpler implementation of lzma |
| 18:06.08 | goozbach | http://www.nongnu.org/lzip/lzip.html |
| 18:06.11 | eightyeight | but when trying to use it, it complains that the compressed file is not in lzip format |
| 18:06.24 | goozbach | yeah looks to be that it has to be in lzip format |
| 18:06.27 | goozbach | to recover |
| 18:06.29 | goozbach | :( |
| 18:06.57 | eightyeight | i understand that the point of compression is to internally remove duplication on the parent file |
| 18:07.10 | eightyeight | but the fact that they are so easily corruptable sucks |
| 18:07.29 | fugue88 | Well, cutting filesize in half then adding back just a percent or two certainly makes a lot of sense. |
| 18:08.17 | eightyeight | seems the proprietary Stuffit format supports error correcting codes, for this very reason |
| 18:08.25 | eightyeight | best i can find, atm |
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| 18:35.00 | utz | Anybody have any LPI certs in here? Thinking about getting them and wondering if you think it's worth it. |
| 18:41.05 | programmerq | So, I have an HP dl380G5. It takes 2.5" drives. I want to use it for a homelab. does anyone know a good source for cheap 2.5" sata or sas drives? I don't care if they are "HP supported" or not. |
| 18:41.17 | programmerq | maybe a local company that phases out drives over time? |
| 18:41.32 | eightyeight | utz: i don't have LPI certification, but i do have RHCE certification |
| 18:41.43 | programmerq | Jayce^: is bluehost getting rid of any 2.5" drives yet? or are they hanging onto those still? |
| 18:41.44 | eightyeight | utz: i think certs can be beneficial |
| 18:43.06 | utz | what do you do eightyeight and would you say your RHCE has helped you in your career? |
| 18:43.29 | eightyeight | i'm a system administrator, and it did help me get one job |
| 18:44.18 | jsmith | programmerq: Check eBay.... they usually have a ton of parts for the DL380s |
| 18:44.19 | utz | Cool. I am fairly confident i could get LPI 1 and 2 with little studying, so I figure I might as well right? |
| 18:44.26 | eightyeight | yeah |
| 18:44.36 | utz | Any CISSPs in here? |
| 18:44.43 | eightyeight | extra credentials on your resume can only help. i don't find them detrimental |
| 18:44.56 | utz | ^good point |
| 18:44.57 | programmerq | RHCE is one of the few I think is worthwhile. |
| 18:45.15 | goozbach | +1 |
| 18:45.25 | utz | programmerq: would you say it's better than the LPIs? |
| 18:45.25 | programmerq | ubuntu used to have one, but it went away. |
| 18:45.44 | programmerq | utz: it depends. LPI tries to be distro-agnostic, no? |
| 18:45.53 | programmerq | (I think the ubuntu ones were LPI-based, iirc) |
| 18:45.54 | utz | exactly. |
| 18:46.25 | programmerq | people are maybe a bit less familiar with LPI, but then again, I've worked in a ton of redhat shops. |
| 18:46.34 | programmerq | I'm using ubuntu on my current project. |
| 18:47.37 | utz | yeah, but if you have an RHCE, I still feel like it'll look good even if applying to administer a Debian enivronment. I can't imagine it would hurt your chances. |
| 18:51.37 | jxqz | has a RHCZ |
| 18:52.07 | Tene | utz: I have no idea about popular opinion on LPI, but my experience is that LPI is a worthless cert, personally |
| 18:52.29 | Tene | It means just about nothing compared to RHCE and friends |
| 18:52.41 | utz | Tene: good to know. Thanks. |
| 18:52.51 | utz | It's as bad as CompTIA? |
| 18:52.59 | jxqz | RHCQ |
| 18:53.09 | Tene | LPI is a text exam asking you to fill in blanks and multiple choice and such, and spends a lot of time on things nobody cares about like X init files and such |
| 18:53.12 | programmerq | I had a boss several years ago that hated all certs |
| 18:53.20 | programmerq | he worked at novell when they started intoducing certs there |
| 18:53.30 | programmerq | and as part of dogfooding, they had their own employees take the test |
| 18:53.32 | Tene | or at least, it was back when I taught it, in like 2009 or so? |
| 18:53.34 | programmerq | and they failed |
| 18:53.40 | jxqz | haha |
| 18:53.45 | programmerq | because the answers on the test that were "right" were just garbage |
| 18:53.45 | jxqz | s/certs/degrees/ |
| 18:53.48 | programmerq | some were completely false |
| 18:53.54 | Tene | RHCE is "here is a broken system. Here is a spec sheet. Make it go." |
| 18:54.00 | utz | yeah i have talked to a lot of people who think certs are worthless |
| 18:54.00 | programmerq | so that framed his opinion of certs from then on |
| 18:54.11 | Tene | part 2 is "here is a blank system. Here is a spec sheet and install media. Make it go." |
| 18:54.16 | programmerq | one of his peers was super big into cisco stuff |
| 18:54.27 | programmerq | but he always did stuff.... wrong |
| 18:54.44 | programmerq | so his cert that said he could do all this stuff was worthless in his case |
| 18:54.54 | programmerq | now, that's not to say that folks with cisco certs are all bad |
| 18:55.06 | Tene | If an applicant acted like an LPI cert meant anything at all, I'd dock him points, otherwise if he just didn't care about it I wouldn't mind. |
| 18:55.18 | Tene | But it would be pretty close to worthless if I'm on the hiring committee |
| 18:55.33 | utz | Tene: interesting. I'll have to take a look at it. I'll probably install RHEL on my home server this weekend and mess around |
| 18:55.47 | programmerq | sometimes I feel like I should study for some of the certs, but LPI I wouldn't actually try to get |
| 18:56.46 | ldav15 | prefers Tic Tacs to Certs |
| 18:56.52 | Tene | with RHCE, it's extremely good evidence that you can actually handle a system on your own |
| 18:57.24 | Tene | not everything, certainly, but pretty good |
| 18:57.43 | Tene | Now, having said that, I have no idea how well most hiring committees agree with me |
| 18:57.54 | utz | Thanks guys, this has all been super helpful. My ultimate goal is get the CISSP, and thought it wouldn't hurt to get some linux certs along the way too haha |
| 18:58.04 | Tene | all the jobs I've had have been largely based on personal recommendations, not on a resume at all |
| 18:58.26 | utz | ^^ true |
| 19:00.47 | goozbach | +1 |
| 19:01.13 | programmerq | I got hired at the BYU CS dept as a student because I knew what linux was, and I googled all the stuff on the job posting I didn't recognize before I went in. |
| 19:01.42 | utz | ^that's how I got my first job the in the industry as well |
| 19:01.45 | programmerq | when I left there, my resume history wasn't so great, so that's how I ended up doing support at bluehost. |
| 19:02.10 | utz | ^ that's what I did after too for 2 months, hated it, so now i'm a sys admin |
| 19:02.19 | programmerq | at HP, I passed because I had experience with many of the technologies they were using. I was still pretty much junior level, but progressed to pretty much senior level while I was there |
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| 19:02.41 | programmerq | and my gig now I was referred by my manager at HP (they were helping us find jobs since HP corporate closed our office) |
| 19:03.03 | programmerq | no certs ever came up in interviews |
| 19:04.47 | fadein | levi: Peter Bex is a sharp guy |
| 19:04.53 | fadein | levi: are you a CHICKENer, too? |
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| 19:19.31 | youtah | I'm fairly certain nachos are the most under rated vegetable ever. |
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| 19:22.06 | programmerq | youtah: I decided to follow you on twitter. |
| 19:22.09 | programmerq | nice sunset pics. |
| 19:22.14 | youtah | Gracias |
| 19:22.24 | youtah | I am hoping you won't be too badly disappointed. |
| 19:22.55 | programmerq | I've always enjoyed the stuff you've posted here |
| 19:23.33 | youtah | Gracias |
| 19:25.49 | youtah | lol, which one are you programmerq? |
| 19:26.05 | youtah | I've had like 12 follow me in the last two days |
| 19:27.06 | programmerq | programm3rq |
| 19:27.18 | programmerq | programmerq was taken by some korean guy with one tweet. |
| 19:27.33 | programmerq | so >:^O |
| 19:27.52 | youtah | Cool. Followed back |
| 19:28.00 | programmerq | cool |
| 19:28.26 | programmerq | I just decided a few weeks ago I might as well do twitter (I was at mwrc and it seemed like I was the only one not actively using twitter) |
| 19:29.50 | Greagle | any of you guys Bitcoiners? |
| 19:30.08 | youtah | uh oh..... Greagle just did it..... |
| 19:30.17 | programmerq | Greagle: yes |
| 19:30.19 | programmerq | youtah: did what? |
| 19:30.20 | youtah | there is a plethora of us in here |
| 19:30.23 | Greagle | :O |
| 19:30.28 | programmerq | ah |
| 19:30.29 | youtah | started an intense convo programmerq |
| 19:30.37 | Greagle | haha |
| 19:30.56 | Greagle | well once programmerq said "I was the only one not actively using dot dot dot" I thought, am I the last one to use BTC? |
| 19:30.59 | youtah | These convos get verbose. Not that I'm complaining.... just preparing myself |
| 19:31.41 | youtah | You guys see this photo from Yesterday evening? https://scontent-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/t31.0-8/10012703_10151978045890060_354987162_o.jpg |
| 19:32.58 | youtah | And this was taken *after* sunset... https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc3/t31.0-8/1898612_10151978712720060_2100766518_o.jpg |
| 19:33.11 | Greagle | haha |
| 19:33.34 | youtah | and this was taken DURING the sunset. https://scontent-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc3/t31.0-8/976306_10203663180324269_760992134_o.jpg |
| 19:33.36 | Greagle | I'm new to Bitcoin anyway, but I'd like to see if anyone can point me to any good resources for learning about it and potentially mining |
| 19:33.39 | youtah | That's all I will share for now |
| 19:36.37 | youtah | I think it's more so because it's a desert than anything else |
| 19:38.02 | Greagle | whatttt BTC? |
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| 19:39.18 | youtah | lol, oops, wrong window |
| 19:39.28 | youtah | I think it's more so because it's a desert than anything else << Wrong window |
| 19:39.34 | Greagle | lol |
| 19:39.46 | Greagle | well, I will have to agree with you, we do live in a desert.. |
| 19:39.55 | youtah | lol |
| 19:39.58 | goozbach | GebwiwagJewvatKeOshkomgeostent |
| 19:40.05 | Greagle | that's why we rely on virtual money, since we have no other resources |
| 19:40.14 | youtah | that's a horrible MD5 hash goodolbluey |
| 19:40.15 | youtah | oops |
| 19:40.19 | youtah | that's a horrible MD5 hash goozbach |
| 19:40.47 | goozbach | I've taken to posting output of apg(1) whenever someone says "wrong window" |
| 19:40.50 | goozbach | it's fun |
| 19:42.16 | goozbach | if anyone wants to send me bitcoin: 12JKCAtpxQ1erB2ETS1oHCWtHf5FSu7LNy |
| 19:42.24 | goozbach | :) |
| 19:45.09 | Greagle | I don't even have bitcoin |
| 19:45.09 | Greagle | :( |
| 19:45.20 | Greagle | I want to learn! |
| 19:45.28 | Greagle | someone helps... :D |
| 19:51.34 | shalkie | goozbach: You sends me bitcoins? |
| 19:52.17 | goozbach | shalkie: I haz no bitcoins |
| 19:52.22 | goozbach | I needs them |
| 19:52.34 | goozbach | so since they're worthless, someone might want one |
| 19:52.39 | goozbach | want to give me one I mean |
| 19:58.09 | goozbach | which one of you was it? http://notalwaysromantic.com/not-impressed-with-his-light-saber/29951 |
| 20:04.29 | youtah | harleypig, http://i.imgur.com/DzMTbwB.jpg |
| 20:07.32 | levi | fadein: I have used Chicken in the past, but not lately. |
| 20:11.44 | goozbach | youtah: apparently a troll acct |
| 20:11.51 | goozbach | which is now closed |
| 20:11.53 | goozbach | which is sad |
| 20:11.57 | goozbach | cause that's funny! |
| 20:12.14 | youtah | yeah, I read that too goozbach |
| 20:12.52 | youtah | I'm sorry goodolbluey but we can only have one "g-o-o-[tab]" in #utah, and goozbach already has that claim. You're going to have to change your name. ;-) |
| 20:13.03 | goozbach | goodolbluey: welcome! |
| 20:13.19 | goozbach | I was wondering where that came from earlier |
| 20:13.21 | goozbach | :D |
| 20:13.24 | youtah | lol |
| 20:13.34 | youtah | I've hit it like 4 times now |
| 20:13.47 | goozbach | prob with my fourth char being |
| 20:13.49 | goozbach | 'z' |
| 20:15.23 | eightyeight | so, for those following my redundancy woes with compression, i found a slick workaround |
| 20:15.35 | eightyeight | $ par2 create backup.tar.gz.par2 backup.tar.gz |
| 20:15.49 | eightyeight | this creates a number of parity files based on the source data |
| 20:16.12 | eightyeight | should the source file and/or parity files get corrupt, up to a certain level, the data can still be reconstructed |
| 20:16.17 | eightyeight | much like parity in raid arrays |
| 20:16.19 | eightyeight | anyway, fyi |
| 20:16.43 | eightyeight | the redundancy level can be specified also |
| 20:17.05 | eightyeight | uses reed-solomon |
| 20:18.24 | goozbach | eightyeight: what provides par2? |
| 20:18.35 | eightyeight | for debian/ubuntu, it's "par2" |
| 20:18.42 | eightyeight | unknown for fedora/centos |
| 20:19.02 | eightyeight | "par2cmdline"? |
| 20:19.20 | goozbach | looks like it |
| 20:19.23 | goozbach | https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/acls/name/par2cmdline |
| 20:19.42 | goozbach | cool it's in f20 and epel6 |
| 20:19.57 | goozbach | wonder why a tool like unto it hasn't been in binutils or the like |
| 20:20.06 | eightyeight | might be useful if storing long-term backups on non-btrfs/zfs filesystems |
| 20:20.22 | eightyeight | where self-healing is not an option |
| 20:20.55 | eightyeight | of course, it's hard to predict what is going to fail, and when |
| 20:21.01 | eightyeight | i'm not sure this scales very wel |
| 20:21.05 | eightyeight | s/$/l/ |
| 20:21.25 | goozbach | par2 is in homebrew too! |
| 20:21.28 | goozbach | tests |
| 20:28.16 | programmerq | homebrew is pretty freaking sweet, actually. |
| 20:28.37 | eightyeight | so, i guess par2(1) is standard on usenet servers, where the news posts are stored |
| 20:32.41 | goozbach | my cursory glance through the bin files in coreutils showed nothng similar |
| 20:32.56 | goozbach | you'd think with tools like md5sum, shasum, tsort |
| 20:33.01 | goozbach | etc there's be call for a tool ike this |
| 20:34.09 | eightyeight | indeed |
| 20:43.51 | Migs | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A_DaizJnnJQ |
| 20:46.59 | fugue88 | eightyeight: Excellent find. Thanks for sharing. |
| 20:47.05 | eightyeight | np |
| 21:10.59 | youtah | Marketing companies should use chromosomes in advertisements because sex cells. |
| 21:12.28 | tomstokes | I see what you did there. |
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| 21:14.31 | youtah | buwa ha ha ha ha |
| 21:28.00 | Jayce^ | must... kick... start... https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/381739996/dancers-of-war-a-third-person-action-video-game-fo |
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| 22:30.31 | harleypig | youtah: that was disturbing |
| 22:30.36 | harleypig | good job :] |
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| 23:27.22 | harleypig | Does anyone know why chpasswd updates /etc/passwd instead of /etc/shadow? |
| 23:29.54 | harleypig | wtf? passwd does to ... I thought they were supposed to update /etc/shadow ... |
| 23:48.13 | spangborn | Hm. |
| 23:48.23 | spangborn | PPTP blocked on XMission's library wifi. :( |
| 23:49.26 | spangborn | And yet I can SSH tunnel. Heh. |
| 23:53.17 | spangborn | Anyone know where redditgift's office is? |
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