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| 00:49.50 | frums | hello |
| 00:49.56 | frums | anyone around? |
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| 14:57.23 | Corpsman | is there a schedule yet with topics for openwest? |
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| 15:02.59 | davido_ | I don't think it's published yet. Probably soon. |
| 15:03.23 | Corpsman | kthx. |
| 15:03.25 | davido_ | We're also looking for someone to submit some Perl code for Mark Jason Dominus to examine in his code workshop. |
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| 15:10.42 | goozbach | davido_: what kind of code? |
| 15:12.00 | davido_ | Something that he can chew on, and show how to improve it. Here's a link to his talk synopsis: http://perl.plover.com/yak/flags/ |
| 15:15.17 | goozbach | got some old perl code here: |
| 15:15.20 | goozbach | https://github.com/goozbach/Asterisk-Store-Queue-Member |
| 15:15.31 | goozbach | and here: |
| 15:15.34 | goozbach | https://github.com/goozbach/Asterisk-Store-Queue |
| 15:19.32 | jxqz | ~napoleon |
| 15:19.32 | infobot | There's like a buttload of gangs at this school. One of them kept wanting me to join because I'm pretty good with a bowstaff. |
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| 15:40.49 | davido_ | goozbach: Will you be at OpenWest? |
| 15:41.31 | goozbach | davido_: nope |
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| 15:42.17 | goozbach | sometimes it sucks to be most of the way across the country |
| 16:03.27 | davido_ | Lol, I know. I lived in Portland for 3y, and Los Angeles for 10y before returning to SLC. |
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| 16:37.51 | programmerq | I just called direct communications (ISP out in eagle mountain) and asked about ipv6 |
| 16:37.59 | programmerq | they have absolutely no timeline |
| 16:38.07 | programmerq | which tells me they're just kind of meh about it |
| 16:39.46 | jsmith | programmerq: Most ISPs are meh about it |
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| 16:44.10 | davido_ | Everyone will be 'meh', until the situation becomes critical, then everyone will be 'omg!' |
| 16:46.47 | jsmith | Naw, the ISPs will just go to carrier grade NAT |
| 16:46.51 | jsmith | Many of them already have |
| 16:48.07 | goozbach | another rpm question |
| 16:48.24 | goozbach | I have a config file specified in the spec as %config /etc/foo/foo.conf |
| 16:48.48 | goozbach | in certian situations the directory /etc/foo doesn't exist |
| 16:49.11 | goozbach | (managed by drbd and not mounted on standby node) |
| 16:49.37 | goozbach | what I want is to be able to install the rpm which owns that file and not fail if that file can't be installed |
| 16:49.40 | goozbach | is there a way to do that? |
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| 16:52.56 | jsmith | goozbach: %config(missingok), perhaps? |
| 16:53.54 | goozbach | jsmith: I could kiss you! |
| 16:53.59 | goozbach | but I wont |
| 16:56.41 | jsmith | goozbach: Just send money |
| 16:56.54 | goozbach | howbout I convince tony to buy you death by meat |
| 16:56.57 | goozbach | :) |
| 16:57.13 | jsmith | goozbach: Agreed! So let it be written, so let it be done. |
| 16:59.27 | programmerq | there are quite a few ISPs that have ipv6 pretty much done |
| 16:59.36 | programmerq | veracity in provo had it done |
| 16:59.41 | programmerq | for quite a while |
| 17:00.31 | programmerq | I guess I'm not sure what will make it be critical-- price for ipv4 blocks skyrocket? |
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| 17:01.22 | programmerq | looks like it's about $10/ip at the moment. |
| 17:03.30 | Jayce^ | programmerq: I've been asking them for a long time, totally not on their radar |
| 17:05.30 | youtah | "It's okay to throw trucker bombs as long as you're on an indian reservation" - my friend I shall leave anonymous |
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| 17:06.59 | Migs | i agree with friend |
| 17:07.16 | Migs | the indians are lucky enough we gave them that land. We should be able to do whatever we want on it. |
| 17:08.33 | programmerq | Jayce^: the girl I talked to noted it on my account |
| 17:08.45 | programmerq | I was like wtf, okay, whatever. |
| 17:09.00 | programmerq | looks like the don't do twitter |
| 17:09.41 | Migs | http://hypervocal.com/news/2014/chicago-train-jumps-ohare/ |
| 17:10.34 | jima | ISPs and ipv6, ha ha ha |
| 17:12.20 | jsmith | jima: I know, right?!? |
| 17:12.53 | jsmith | programmerq: The other thing you need to realize is that most home-grade routers/firewalls aren't IPv6 ready either |
| 17:13.07 | jsmith | programmerq: And replacing them all is a huge expense |
| 17:13.13 | jima | jsmith: that's not as true as it used to be |
| 17:13.28 | jsmith | programmerq: (and turning up IPv6 without having firewall support in place is scary) |
| 17:13.43 | programmerq | jsmith: I've dealt with all that stuff before |
| 17:13.46 | jima | there's been a slightly surprising trend toward ipv6 capability in home-grade-ish cpe |
| 17:13.49 | jsmith | jima: OK, let me back up.... "For the crappy routers that most ISPs force upon their unsuspecting customers..." |
| 17:14.00 | programmerq | I agree that ipv6 support isn't quite there for consumer-grade |
| 17:14.01 | jima | i think that's still true. |
| 17:14.19 | programmerq | but it's getting *much* better |
| 17:15.04 | programmerq | anyone have any experience with ipv6 firewall on something like pfsense? |
| 17:15.15 | Jayce^ | programmerq: which neighborhood ar you in? |
| 17:15.48 | programmerq | I'm in the ranches on the east side of EM |
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| 17:15.53 | programmerq | saratoga borders my lot more or less |
| 17:16.13 | programmerq | I'm actually within walking distance to a directcom support facility |
| 17:16.50 | Jayce^ | stonebridge or highlands/eagles gate? |
| 17:18.17 | Jayce^ | and are you on fiber or copper? |
| 17:18.18 | programmerq | southmoor |
| 17:18.20 | programmerq | fiber |
| 17:18.24 | Jayce^ | ok cool |
| 17:18.26 | programmerq | I won't buy a house not on fiber. :) |
| 17:18.31 | Jayce^ | I'm on stonebridge.. same |
| 17:18.46 | Jayce^ | so just down the street from rockwell.. nearby |
| 17:44.19 | programmerq | runs outside with a torch, looking for Jayce^ |
| 17:45.01 | T4rku5 | anyone in here use Solarwinds? |
| 17:45.10 | jxqz | programmerq: fiber++ |
| 17:45.45 | jxqz | it makes me sick when I see whole new neighborhoods being built and they don't bury in fiber as part of the basic infrastructure |
| 17:46.09 | programmerq | I wrote it in to the contract when I built my home |
| 17:46.17 | jxqz | nice |
| 17:46.18 | programmerq | 'fiber optic line must be laid before landscaping goes in' |
| 17:46.31 | programmerq | they already had 'telephone and cable tv' services listed |
| 17:46.42 | programmerq | turns out the only way to get those in my neighborhood is the fiber line |
| 17:46.44 | programmerq | so :p |
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| 17:47.33 | jxqz | programmerq: is that utopia infrastructure? |
| 17:48.39 | programmerq | I don't think so |
| 17:48.41 | Jayce^ | except there is no cable tv in our area :) |
| 17:48.43 | jima | T4rku5: do you have to swear in here? |
| 17:48.48 | Jayce^ | no, direct comm's own network |
| 17:48.52 | programmerq | Jayce^: directcom is tv provider |
| 17:48.59 | programmerq | not 'traditional' cable |
| 17:49.05 | programmerq | but meh |
| 17:49.13 | Jayce^ | how much tv are you actually getting from them?? |
| 17:49.18 | programmerq | none |
| 17:49.21 | programmerq | I don't pay for tv |
| 17:49.25 | programmerq | not when I have sickbeard |
| 17:49.56 | jxqz | programmerq: fiber is fiber as long as you can pick your isp |
| 17:50.07 | Jayce^ | programmerq: same here |
| 17:50.12 | jima | jxqz: most fiber infrastructures, you can't |
| 17:50.15 | Jayce^ | ~sickbeard++ |
| 17:50.21 | jima | utopia is REALLY unusual in that regard |
| 17:50.35 | jima | awesomely unusual |
| 17:58.11 | T4rku5 | is Solarwinds a swear word? |
| 17:58.50 | jima | T4rku5: that was the joke, yes...i don't use it, but my work's US subsidiary does. |
| 17:58.56 | T4rku5 | :) |
| 17:59.17 | jima | i probably have access if i knew the url |
| 17:59.31 | youtah | They made a dessert at my work for lunch, that looked like the ship from Flight of the Navigator. And like 9/9 people I mentioned that to had no idea what I was talking about. |
| 18:00.14 | unum | were they developers? |
| 18:00.47 | youtah | no |
| 18:00.49 | youtah | yes |
| 18:00.55 | youtah | Hardware engineers |
| 18:01.12 | unum | hmmmm sounds like you need a new set :) |
| 18:01.31 | youtah | lol |
| 18:02.02 | unum | my students had an assignment about controlling a very simple robot arm to write words |
| 18:02.09 | unum | so I made them a little test program |
| 18:02.12 | unum | http://unum5.org/draw |
| 18:02.57 | jxqz | flight of the navigator ++ |
| 18:03.17 | youtah | is it supposed to be pseudo unum? |
| 18:03.28 | unum | ya |
| 18:03.45 | unum | the book had a list of commands it code follow |
| 18:03.49 | youtah | ah |
| 18:03.51 | unum | s/code/could |
| 18:03.59 | youtah | I just tried "move lower" and it did nothing |
| 18:04.00 | youtah | I don |
| 18:04.09 | unum | try the other way around |
| 18:04.10 | youtah | I don't have the paper, so I have no idea. lol |
| 18:04.11 | unum | lower |
| 18:04.12 | unum | move |
| 18:04.59 | youtah | ah |
| 18:05.24 | unum | one word commands |
| 18:06.25 | unum | someone wrote out cat that's probably been the most impressive one |
| 18:06.57 | jima | youtah: i haven't seen it in probably well over a decade, but i at least know what you're talking about. |
| 18:08.31 | youtah | ^ yes |
| 18:08.44 | youtah | I probably haven't seen it in well over a decade either |
| 18:09.38 | jima | unum: "cat" might be a reference to a not terribly sfw online comic |
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| 18:10.00 | youtah | LOL |
| 18:10.13 | youtah | So you're saying that they should get extra points jima? |
| 18:10.20 | jima | youtah: absolutely! |
| 18:10.30 | jima | also, detention. |
| 18:15.31 | youtah | unum, this college? highschool? |
| 18:16.22 | unum | youtah: college |
| 18:17.01 | unum | one of the one's recently mentioned on uphpu's mailing list.... |
| 18:19.45 | jima | one's? |
| 18:19.47 | jima | glares |
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| 18:20.34 | unum | s/one's/colleges |
| 18:20.46 | jima | itym college's *ducks* |
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| 19:03.10 | youtah | http://i.imgur.com/unXdbdc.jpg |
| 19:03.55 | youtah | I can't stop laughing |
| 19:04.41 | eightyeight | apropos: http://qdb.us/32511 |
| 19:06.55 | Migs | love that |
| 19:14.47 | Jayce^ | ++ |
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| 19:36.13 | youtah | fozzmoo passed me this one eightyeight http://www.bash.org/?244321 |
| 19:41.18 | Migs | okay, LinkedIn is out of control. It keeps telling people I got a new job. It just did it a second time! |
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| 19:41.22 | Migs | now everybody's congratulating me |
| 19:41.37 | Migs | people at my workplace are coming up to me IN PERSON and asking wtf is going on |
| 19:42.56 | Migs | I slightly changed a job title on something and now all of a sudden BAM! "Migs has a new job! Send your congratulations!" |
| 19:44.52 | eightyeight | linkedin == social spam |
| 19:45.01 | eightyeight | it offers very little in ways of actually being useful |
| 19:45.39 | eightyeight | just created an account? how about we email EVERYONE. IN. YOUR. CONTACT. LIST?!!! |
| 19:46.00 | eightyeight | someone wants to connect with you! let's email you. |
| 19:46.08 | eightyeight | haven't visited recently, EMAIL! |
| 19:46.15 | eightyeight | change jobs, EMAIL |
| 19:46.17 | jxqz | haha |
| 19:46.34 | Jayce^ | http://www.sheldoncomics.com/archive/140310.html |
| 19:46.36 | Jayce^ | relevant |
| 19:46.54 | joshh | eightyeight: its useful as a resume if you get a new job every year or two, but not for actual social stuff |
| 19:46.58 | jxqz | Migs: haha |
| 19:47.00 | jxqz | fail |
| 19:47.15 | eightyeight | jxqz: yerfect |
| 19:47.25 | eightyeight | s/yerfect/perfect/ |
| 19:47.41 | jxqz | why is fail so funny? |
| 19:47.44 | eightyeight | joshh: it's done squat for my career |
| 19:48.10 | eightyeight | every job i've gotten, has either been friend referrals, or hitting the job boards |
| 19:48.19 | joshh | eightyeight: its here in this area that i've seen it dominate, everyone uses it for every job |
| 19:48.24 | eightyeight | not because i knew sally from joe's grocer 30 years ago |
| 19:48.53 | eightyeight | in all honesty, who has gotten a job, because of linked in directly? |
| 19:48.58 | eightyeight | s/who/who here/ |
| 19:49.00 | jxqz | I got recruited for some job interviews I otherwise wouldn't have even considered from linkedin |
| 19:49.03 | Migs | I have |
| 19:49.14 | Migs | not from a recruiter, either. A CTO directly contacted me. |
| 19:49.20 | Migs | actually, it's happened more than once. |
| 19:49.32 | eightyeight | Migs: and you took those jobs? |
| 19:49.36 | Migs | Yes. |
| 19:49.51 | jxqz | Migs: then you need to eat your spam |
| 19:49.52 | Migs | there was another company that seriously wanted to hire me, but our hours wouldn't quite have worked out. |
| 19:49.55 | jxqz | it's good for you |
| 19:49.55 | Migs | left on good turns |
| 19:49.59 | eightyeight | i've had plenty of recruiters emailing me when i had a linkedin account |
| 19:50.05 | eightyeight | all for contract jobs |
| 19:50.21 | eightyeight | in fact, to think about it, since i deleted my linkedin account, i haven't gotten a single recruiter email |
| 19:50.24 | Migs | yeah, I usually tell recruiters to bugger off, or just give them ridiculous demands (maybe one will btie) |
| 19:50.26 | Migs | *bite |
| 19:50.41 | Migs | like "I don't work for less than 70k/hr, and the job must be 99% telecommute, and I get to set my own hours." |
| 19:50.47 | Migs | er |
| 19:50.49 | Migs | $70/hr |
| 19:51.04 | Migs | "need full bennies, and a pension that matches what I get now" |
| 19:51.07 | Migs | all the crap |
| 19:51.32 | eightyeight | all i ever got was noise |
| 19:51.38 | eightyeight | zero signal |
| 19:51.45 | jxqz | $70k/hour sounds great |
| 19:52.10 | Migs | sometimes CTOs or other web developers contact me just for advice, which I don't mind giving if it's short |
| 19:52.29 | Jayce^ | I've had several really good ones off linkedin actually.. usually FOF people looking |
| 19:52.49 | Migs | yeah, LinkedIn isn't really as spammy as some people claim |
| 19:53.00 | eightyeight | like me? |
| 19:53.21 | jxqz | "boss, should we use #00FF00 or #FF00FF for the homepage background?" "ask the mighty Migs over linkedin. He'll know the answer" |
| 19:53.22 | eightyeight | linkedin, imo, is a cesspool of spam, and recruiters |
| 19:53.25 | Migs | their business model makes you pay to really be able to search for and contact people that would be ideal for a job. So recruiters aren't going to waste their money spamming everyone. |
| 19:53.47 | Migs | jxqz: I'm the LinkedIn guru |
| 19:54.12 | jxqz | eightyeight: dice and monster seem worse than linkedin to me |
| 19:54.14 | Migs | monster, dice, etc. are the real spammers |
| 19:54.18 | Migs | jxqz++ |
| 19:54.20 | jxqz | heh |
| 19:54.29 | eightyeight | jxqz: why i also don't have accounts with them. :) |
| 19:54.44 | jxqz | and careers.stack is a step up from linkedin |
| 19:54.52 | Migs | yeah, that's good too |
| 19:54.53 | joshh | almost everyone here who wasn't referred by a person was found by the recruiters on linkedin |
| 19:54.58 | Migs | that's a great place to post job ads, as well |
| 19:55.14 | jxqz | a technoplatform for geeks to cut out the HR crap and get and offer real jobs on |
| 19:55.19 | jxqz | what linkedin used to be |
| 19:55.34 | Migs | well, linkedin isn't specifically tech-oriented. SO is. |
| 19:55.35 | eightyeight | to each their own. linkedin isn't for me. my inbox has been grateful since giving them the bird a bit ago |
| 19:55.57 | eightyeight | glad to see it's worked for others though |
| 19:56.01 | Migs | the only jobs I ever take are part-time contracts I can do on the side. I can't see myself ever leaving my day job. |
| 19:56.12 | eightyeight | i've never heard a single success story using it. |
| 19:56.14 | jxqz | Migs: there was a time when even twitter and facebook were just geek stuff |
| 19:56.15 | eightyeight | *shrug* |
| 19:56.23 | Migs | eightyeight: I just told you one |
| 19:56.30 | eightyeight | Migs: ... until today |
| 19:56.31 | joshh | basically linkedin has replaced resumes and sending them to apply to jobs. if you are going to be happy at your current job for the foreseeable future, then you will have little practical use for it |
| 19:56.50 | Migs | actually, the CTO and I that I mentioned just barely started another company that I'm working on |
| 19:56.52 | joshh | and we know eightyeight loves his current gig :) |
| 19:56.53 | eightyeight | joshh: you should see my resume. the average employement term is 2 years |
| 19:56.57 | Migs | we have a great working relationship |
| 19:57.02 | eightyeight | mostly due to getting laid off... |
| 19:57.06 | Migs | Thanks LinkedIn! |
| 19:57.15 | eightyeight | joshh: yeah. i'm not going anywhere now. even more reason i don't need it. :) |
| 19:57.28 | jxqz | eightyeight: linkedin lets Migs rate his working relationships! |
| 19:57.32 | Migs | I just like to keep my LinkedIn profile to show off how awesome I am |
| 19:57.46 | Migs | Yes. Our working relationship has a 9.7 compatibility |
| 19:57.55 | Migs | compared to my average of 7.2, that's excellent |
| 19:58.09 | Migs | I just made that up |
| 19:58.20 | Migs | also, *keep my LinkedIn profile updated |
| 19:58.22 | eightyeight | imagines Migs and LinkedIn talking long walks on the beach |
| 19:58.22 | jxqz | I got recruited by the recruiter who got me my job somehow, linkedin may have been involved or not, I'm not sure |
| 19:58.28 | joshh | it's also gotta be useless in areas with hardly any jobs |
| 19:58.43 | jxqz | he just called me one day |
| 19:58.49 | Migs | plenty of remote jobs in IT |
| 19:59.29 | eightyeight | gets back to work, no thanks to linkedin |
| 19:59.55 | Migs | hahahaha |
| 20:02.29 | Jayce^ | in the last 3 months I've been recruited via linkedin for 3 jobs that were very custom to my skillset, and quite attractive offers overall.. |
| 20:02.37 | Jayce^ | so for sure wasn't blind searching |
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| 20:06.56 | Migs | they probably just type certain keywords in the search box, then hit up the top 10 |
| 20:07.22 | Migs | so it could be a good idea to make sure your resume contains those keywords, and I think endorsements help boost you up the list |
| 20:07.34 | Migs | not 100% clear on how LinkedIn's algorithm works, though |
| 20:15.38 | jima | jxqz: i have slightly bitter feelings toward careers.stackexchange.com |
| 20:17.59 | Migs | why's that? |
| 20:18.30 | jima | so, i was hired to be the right-hand man for the lead sysadmin in my business unit |
| 20:18.51 | jima | except he quit less than three months after i started, to go work for stack exchange. |
| 20:22.07 | youtah | So |
| 20:22.11 | youtah | I tried this thing out yesterday |
| 20:22.18 | youtah | not yesterday.... Saturday |
| 20:22.42 | youtah | it was bizarre... wondering if any of you had ever heard of it before, or perhaps even tried it. |
| 20:22.52 | youtah | I went to this thing called a gym and tried working out. |
| 20:24.40 | unum | haven't tried that since eightyeight quit |
| 20:27.37 | goozbach | I've been recruited very heavily from linkedin over the last two years |
| 20:27.40 | goozbach | not one thing panned out |
| 20:27.48 | davido_ | Hm, sphere online judge is down: http://www.websitedown.info/spoj.pl |
| 20:27.51 | goozbach | even the gig with the new evil empire |
| 20:27.55 | goozbach | :( |
| 20:27.59 | goozbach | which ocould have been fun |
| 20:32.36 | eightyeight | wait. working out? what's that? |
| 20:32.51 | eightyeight | i hear it can be hazardous for your health |
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| 20:35.23 | unum | actually I did use the ellipitical this morning |
| 20:37.45 | eightyeight | thinks of 'elliptical' as related to crypto |
| 20:39.30 | T4rku5_afk | I can only hear elliptical as crypto |
| 20:40.08 | T4rku5 | you tell me you spent time on the elliptical, I'll ask you if you know the NSA already has a backdoor |
| 20:41.30 | unum | yes they do, don't your read schneier? |
| 20:42.08 | eightyeight | turns out, finding a reliable hardware RNG that hasn't already been tampered with by the NSA is difficult |
| 20:43.08 | T4rku5 | nigh impossible |
| 20:43.20 | T4rku5 | want to retire rich? |
| 20:43.28 | T4rku5 | but disappear? |
| 20:43.46 | T4rku5 | make one they want to get into |
| 20:47.36 | eightyeight | well, i could easily create one myself |
| 20:48.09 | eightyeight | such as tuning radios to white atmospheric noise, or using webcams in a black box |
| 20:48.16 | eightyeight | even radioactive decay with americium |
| 20:48.38 | eightyeight | lots of options. i'm just lazy, and don't want to code the C necessary to get the data into the kernel |
| 20:48.53 | T4rku5 | prove it works, is better than everything else, and they'll (offer to) make you very rich |
| 20:48.55 | eightyeight | although, i guess i could just keep it userspace |
| 20:49.07 | T4rku5 | RSA took $10M, and that accounted for 1/3 of their revenue that year |
| 20:51.04 | T4rku5 | "using webcams in a black box" Wait. Wut? |
| 20:51.28 | eightyeight | opening up the CCD fully, then letting it try to focus on nothing |
| 20:51.40 | eightyeight | the ISO goes through the roof, and you get solid grainy noise |
| 20:52.05 | T4rku5 | and how do you extrapolate a number from that? |
| 20:52.29 | eightyeight | run the noise through a black/white filter, and read each pixel |
| 20:52.34 | eightyeight | if black, 1, else 0 |
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| 20:52.54 | eightyeight | basically, a visual version of atmospheric noise |
| 20:53.10 | eightyeight | rather than listening for sound, vs. not, you're looking for pixels |
| 20:53.34 | T4rku5 | huh |
| 20:53.42 | jima | goozbach: i got recruited from irc. |
| 20:53.45 | T4rku5 | I wonder just how random that would be |
| 20:54.25 | eightyeight | sample it through the FIPS-140 tests, and see how the numbers fall |
| 20:54.28 | goozbach | I found my second 'real' job via irc and fozzmoo |
| 20:54.48 | goozbach | the third by myself because of my second |
| 20:55.00 | eightyeight | the CCD must be enclosed in a light-proof encasing though |
| 20:55.19 | goozbach | the fourth and fifth by way of a linux users group mailing list |
| 20:55.21 | eightyeight | just operated at high gain |
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| 20:55.47 | goozbach | the sixth through an IRC friend and by default |
| 20:56.19 | goozbach | eightyeight: how would you create a light-proof encasing? |
| 20:56.37 | goozbach | encase in molten ABS? |
| 20:56.49 | goozbach | some sort of black polimer? |
| 20:57.47 | eightyeight | i'll put that webcam in a box, and then i'll put that box inside of another box, and then i'll mail that box to myself, and when it arrives... |
| 20:58.12 | eightyeight | ... i'll smash it with a hammer! it's brilliant, brilliant, brilliant, i tell you! genious, i say! |
| 20:58.24 | goozbach | what should I do for my RFP for southeast linux fest? |
| 20:58.34 | goozbach | bashful adventurer? |
| 20:58.49 | goozbach | creating an ansible role? |
| 20:59.00 | eightyeight | goozbach: yeah. it's a hard problem to solve. i need the CCD gain to be just below the light floor |
| 20:59.04 | eightyeight | so, it doesn't have to be perfect |
| 20:59.14 | eightyeight | just good enough to prevent the CCD from detecting the photons |
| 20:59.39 | goozbach | molten ABS might be the easiest then |
| 20:59.50 | goozbach | just encase it in a block of ABS |
| 21:00.05 | goozbach | wires poking straight out in a strain relief sleeve |
| 21:00.25 | eightyeight | yeah. the usb cable is the most likely source of light, no doubt |
| 21:00.43 | eightyeight | i would think just a solid, opaque box, sealed well enough, would be good enough |
| 21:00.49 | eightyeight | i'd be interested in testing that though |
| 21:02.15 | eightyeight | if you're good with EE and a soldering iron, you could create zener diode noise |
| 21:02.22 | eightyeight | or noise from a reverse pn junction |
| 21:09.31 | fugue88 | Speaking of LinkedIn... |
| 21:09.45 | fugue88 | Jayce^: Congratulations on your work anniversary. |
| 21:11.52 | Jayce^ | lol |
| 21:11.57 | fugue88 | deletes the e-mail |
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| 21:17.57 | programmerq | Jayce^: you're still at BH, right? |
| 21:18.24 | Migs | here we go...just got another offer for a job interview through LinkedIn |
| 21:18.33 | Migs | not from a recruiter, either |
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| 21:18.55 | Migs | oh wait, it is a recruiter...pfffft |
| 21:19.06 | Migs | he was careful to use language that made him sound very much NOT like a recruiter |
| 21:19.07 | programmerq | I went to the devops day of mwrc-- got two "please send us your resume" conversations |
| 21:19.47 | programmerq | too bad timing wasn't a little different. I just started my current gig a month and a half ago. I want some stability and predictibility for a while. :) |
| 21:20.08 | jima | some jerkwad recruiter is getting a fat check...looks like we finally may have filled one of my reqs |
| 21:26.38 | unum | google contacted me via linkedin, I was very suprised they were that desperate |
| 21:27.42 | Tene | unum: they're collapsing under their own weight, and desperate for new hires to help support it. |
| 21:28.07 | Tene | the only way they can keep running is with a massive employee base. |
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| 21:41.38 | youtah | 17 minute violin music share.... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QqA3qQMKueA |
| 21:42.56 | youtah | Johann Sebastian Bach - Chaconne from Partita Nº 2, BWV 1004 | Hilary Hahn, Violin |
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| 21:44.05 | youtah | 4:25 starts to pick up |
| 21:44.15 | programmerq | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lgwF8mdQwlw |
| 21:47.45 | Jayce^ | programmerq: yeah |
| 21:50.49 | programmerq | my folding table and cheap office chair are turning into a bad compo for ergonomics. |
| 21:51.10 | programmerq | combo* |
| 21:56.55 | eightyeight | anyone have experience setting up an rpm .repo file to use SSL for the remote repo? |
| 21:57.03 | eightyeight | if so, what's the magic sauce getting it to work? |
| 22:00.01 | jsmith | eightyeight: Should just work |
| 22:00.30 | youtah | This still bugs me..... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Four_Corners_Monument#Misplacement_controversy |
| 22:00.40 | eightyeight | jsmith: want to test for me? i just setup https://mirrors.xmission.com, if you want to try it |
| 22:02.19 | eightyeight | https://198.60.22.13/centos/6/os/x86_64/repodata/repomd.xml: [Errno 14] PYCURL ERROR 7 - "couldn't connect to host" |
| 22:02.24 | eightyeight | ^ is what i get |
| 22:03.05 | levi | youtah: What bugs you about it? |
| 22:03.33 | youtah | they should have moved the monument |
| 22:04.10 | utz | i don't mean to swear, but do we have any windows admins in here? |
| 22:04.15 | levi | Eh. |
| 22:05.44 | jsmith | eightyeight: Connecting to 198.60.22.13:443... failed: No route to host. |
| 22:06.07 | eightyeight | o.0 |
| 22:06.24 | youtah | failed to connect as well |
| 22:06.30 | levi | youtah: Why move it? |
| 22:06.48 | youtah | So they don't have to make the borders look funny |
| 22:07.10 | youtah | Sure Utah gained more land out of the deal, and colorado lost some.... |
| 22:07.45 | eightyeight | jsmith: okay. one sec. it's bound to the external interface, and open in the firewall... testing |
| 22:10.51 | utz | just had a weird experience. the reverse lookup zone file was gone, nowhere to befound on the entire machine... |
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| 22:23.49 | eightyeight | jsmith: fixed |
| 22:23.53 | eightyeight | youtah: ^ if you're also testing |
| 22:25.39 | programmerq | I'm getting a bit of pain in my left hand from using my computer |
| 22:26.00 | programmerq | combo between crappy chair, folding table as desk, and maybe lack of wrist rest |
| 22:26.45 | youtah | Working for me now eightyeight |
| 22:27.05 | jxqz | for the first time in my life, 11.1 MiB/s download speed doesn't seem fast enough |
| 22:27.21 | youtah | lol jxqz |
| 22:27.49 | youtah | What... no DSLinux? |
| 22:27.55 | eightyeight | youtah: yeah. after realizing that i need to use exactly 'https://mirrors.xmission.com' and not 'https://198.60.22.13' |
| 22:27.58 | eightyeight | happy |
| 22:28.09 | jxqz | come on and download already! |
| 22:28.28 | jxqz | #fiberproblems |
| 22:29.03 | eightyeight | #firstworldfiberproblems |
| 22:29.31 | jxqz | #orisitfibre |
| 22:35.25 | jsmith | eightyeight: ERROR: certificate common name ‘*.xmission.com’ doesn't match requested host name ‘198.60.22.13’. |
| 22:35.30 | jsmith | eightyeight: Oh, looks like you already found that |
| 22:40.18 | jxqz | programmerq: s/emacs/vim/ |
| 22:43.02 | programmerq | jxqz: I'm already a vim user |
| 22:43.15 | programmerq | the strain is tied to me now working at home, and using a crappy office chair and folding table |
| 22:43.25 | programmerq | been getting worse slowly since I started doing that |
| 22:47.23 | eightyeight | dvorak++ |
| 22:49.56 | levi | I suspect there's a better solution than remapping your keyboard. :P |
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| 23:03.49 | jessie | dvorak++ |
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| 23:10.29 | levi | qwerty++ |
| 23:10.43 | jxqz | zxcvb++ |
| 23:10.48 | jxqz | zxcvbn++ |
| 23:11.00 | jxqz | poiuyt-- |
| 23:12.56 | levi | I am fond of Dvorak's 9th Symphony, though. |
| 23:31.20 | programmerq | eightyeight: I do use dvorak already. I've been using it since about 2007 |
| 23:31.30 | programmerq | I saw a fabulous improvement in pain/strain back then |
| 23:31.40 | programmerq | it's just this stupid table/chair combo killing me. :) |
| 23:32.04 | programmerq | I did grab my mechanical keyboard |
| 23:32.07 | programmerq | that is helping a bit |
| 23:32.18 | programmerq | but I still need a better chair/table |
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| 23:47.02 | jxqz | levi: try the 7th and 8th |
| 23:47.09 | jxqz | and also his American quartet |
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