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| 00:10.25 | oeuvre | yo klys |
| 00:10.33 | User01_ | hey |
| 00:10.47 | oeuvre | dat u |
| 00:10.50 | oeuvre | how goes |
| 00:11.07 | klys | I'm not doing anything a.t.m. |
| 00:11.11 | klys | ~slashdot |
| 00:11.28 | oeuvre | ** WinSys ** Client: HexChat 2.9.1 (x86) ** OS: Microsoft(R) Windows(R) Server 2003, Enterprise Edition ** CPU: Intel(R) Pentium(R) III Xeon processor (3.00 GHz) ** RAM: 16333 MB Total (15046 MB Free) ** VGA: AMD Radeon HD 7800 Series ** Uptime: 3.23 Hours ** |
| 00:11.44 | klys | you lookin at an upgrade |
| 00:11.49 | oeuvre | why |
| 00:12.02 | oeuvre | it's an i7 |
| 00:12.18 | klys | os version? |
| 00:12.50 | oeuvre | server 2003/windows 7 64 dual boot |
| 00:13.07 | klys | i.c. |
| 00:13.43 | oeuvre | how bout yo |
| 00:13.45 | oeuvre | *You |
| 00:14.02 | klys | wows about planet mercury shrinking |
| 00:14.28 | klys | I'm considering upgrading after buying software |
| 00:16.03 | klys | mostly not decided. looking at after effects + "final cut pro," "avid symphony," or "adobe production premium." |
| 00:17.43 | klys | tracking, keying, coloring, and conform tools. |
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| 12:16.24 | klys | ~slashdot |
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| 14:57.17 | levi | Well, that was a nice surprise. |
| 14:58.11 | levi | Took Thurs and Fri off of work, come back in, and my Aeron knock-off chair has been replaced with a *real* Aeron. |
| 14:59.18 | fugue88 | Sweet. |
| 15:00.14 | levi | It is sweet! I had my knock-off adjusted pretty well, but this one can be dialed in *perfectly*. |
| 15:08.15 | levi | I have new dev boards, too! It's like Christmas. |
| 15:09.08 | jsmith | levi: I've had an Aeron for the last nine years... and I love it :-) |
| 15:09.42 | jsmith | w00t! |
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| 17:43.22 | keldwud | I'm trying to build some reputation on stachexchange so that I can operate on the site (i.e. upvote and downvote, I'm still a plebe). Anybody interested in checking out a solution I found for a logstash issue? |
| 17:43.37 | keldwud | http://serverfault.com/questions/565469/logstash-server-log-file-flooded-with-failed-to-flush-outgoing-items-error-mes |
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| 18:23.12 | TimRiker | anyone have a recommendation for voip home solution? considering dropping centurylink entirely and moving to comcast/xfinity for internet and probably some other voip for home. would be nice to port my existing number, callerid for existing phones. US calling. |
| 18:24.33 | TimRiker | looks like magicjack+ device runs without a computer. cheapest option I see, but it may no be the best solution. |
| 18:25.21 | TimRiker | not running asterisk now, but I suppose I could again. just a single line solution would be easier. |
| 18:26.56 | jsmith | TimRiker: If simplicity is what you're looking for, why not just use Comcast for your phone as well? |
| 18:26.59 | jsmith | TimRiker: (You probably think it's funny having me say that, I'm sure) |
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| 18:29.38 | TimRiker | heh. well, looks like they are $30-45/month. I expect there are cheaper options for similar features. |
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| 18:35.18 | TimRiker | and it looks like comcast/xfinity requires an additional $8/mon rental for the phone interface. |
| 18:36.12 | levi | I am using a relatively small local VOIP company... I can't remember the name, though. |
| 18:36.32 | levi | They recently changed the name; not sure if it was bought out or just changed. |
| 18:36.36 | jsmith | That sucks :-( |
| 18:36.50 | levi | Used to be Arrivaltel, I think. |
| 18:36.53 | jsmith | Another option is to go with one of the cell-technology based systems |
| 18:37.02 | jsmith | (essentially a cell-to-landline bridge) |
| 18:37.18 | jsmith | I think AT&T and Verizon charge around $20/mo for unlimited calling |
| 18:38.04 | levi | Ahh, SenaWave is the new name. |
| 18:38.54 | levi | I pay something like... $12 or so a month? |
| 18:39.51 | levi | I use an unlocked PAP2 and Asterisk, but I think it'd work fine with just a PAP2. |
| 18:42.40 | jsmith | Yeah, should work just fine |
| 18:47.08 | keldwud | power is out |
| 18:47.22 | keldwud | laptops and poe switches for the win :) |
| 18:47.48 | keldwud | this is the third or fourth time the power has gone out in this complex in the span of a year |
| 18:47.49 | keldwud | crazy |
| 18:48.22 | keldwud | anybody getting crazy wind in salt lake county? or is it restricted to utah county for now? |
| 18:51.31 | TimRiker | anyone tries the magicjackplus device? $30/year sounds nice. I hear their support is awful, but then again I think CL support is awful too. |
| 18:52.00 | TimRiker | s/tries/tried/ |
| 18:54.57 | keldwud | "He loves muffins and I cook them healthy" ... |
| 18:55.16 | keldwud | that's like saying "I feed my child donuts, but I cook them healthy, so it's okay" |
| 18:57.13 | RyanE | crazy wind here in Draper |
| 18:57.25 | TimRiker | my understanding is that the magicjack plus hooks into any usb power, ethernet, and then phone plugs into that. not open like a pap2, but 30/year sounds appealing. |
| 18:57.27 | keldwud | hmm.. is belief in astrology an indicator of a functionally illiterate mind? |
| 18:58.03 | keldwud | RyanE: good to know. Gotta love that wind. Been a few of them in the last year iirc. |
| 19:00.06 | TimRiker | well, not openable like some pap2. others are vonage only. |
| 19:01.31 | keldwud | couldn't the functionality of magicjack be reproduced on a small microcontroller with a microkernel running on it and access to a SIP or something? |
| 19:07.04 | levi | "a SIP"? |
| 19:07.34 | levi | Anyway, I think you just described a magicjack, so yeah. |
| 19:09.14 | levi | TuxScreen with built-in magicjack! :P |
| 19:09.18 | keldwud | ummm |
| 19:09.23 | keldwud | let me check my terminology |
| 19:09.36 | keldwud | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Session_Initiation_Protocol |
| 19:10.31 | levi | I follow you, if by 'a SIP' you meant 'a SIP-based server' or something. |
| 19:10.38 | keldwud | yeah sip based server |
| 19:10.40 | keldwud | sorry :) |
| 19:11.19 | levi | I don't have any idea what the digital signalling portion of MagicJack really is, though. |
| 19:11.52 | dumby | you can run a PBX on a raspberry pi |
| 19:12.25 | dumby | IncrediblePBX has been built for pi's, or you can move up to a beaglebone for a bit more expandability |
| 19:12.41 | dumby | You'd need an IP phone that can connect to your home network, but you pay by the minute with a SIP provider and it's super cheap |
| 19:13.10 | keldwud | sip provider that was what I was looking for |
| 19:13.23 | keldwud | because I remember that you still need to pay somebody that has access to phone exchanges |
| 19:13.37 | dumby | http://www.vitelity.com/ |
| 19:13.55 | dumby | you just register your PBX server with your SIP provider, and then it does all the exchanging |
| 19:14.00 | keldwud | but yeah, that's kind of what I was thinking. a raspberry pi instead of a magic jack |
| 19:14.23 | levi | Magic jack has the bits to interface with analog phones, though. |
| 19:14.41 | keldwud | eightyeight: somebody is looking for you over in xmlounge |
| 19:14.54 | keldwud | oh nevermind |
| 19:15.00 | keldwud | Heartsbane is in here, too |
| 19:15.07 | levi | I'm not sure what all that entails, and how feasible it would be to do with a general purpose microcontroller plus discrete components or whatever. |
| 19:15.07 | dumby | if you don't want to get an IP phone, you get an ATA converter |
| 19:15.45 | keldwud | levi: oooh, I see. If somebody wanted to use the analog phone hardware to make calls |
| 19:15.54 | keldwud | instead of a microphone and a speaker |
| 19:16.24 | keldwud | like old people. I could see how old people would still need to use old phone hardware in order to make phone calls |
| 19:16.35 | keldwud | and couldn't make the switch to something that didn't resemble a phone |
| 19:16.36 | levi | Right. You could, of course, plug a headset into the Pi and make calls that way without any extra stuff. |
| 19:17.02 | keldwud | TimRiker: are you an old fart? ;) |
| 19:17.06 | dumby | If I were putting in a home phone system for cheap, I'd get a Pi and a used IP phone. |
| 19:17.12 | keldwud | ^ |
| 19:17.24 | keldwud | I'm going to do that once my google fiber comes in |
| 19:17.32 | keldwud | June :( |
| 19:17.50 | Heartsbane | keldwud: I will call him on his phone, when the emergency reaches Epic emergency |
| 19:18.00 | Heartsbane | which means it is on the nightly news |
| 19:18.01 | keldwud | Heartsbane: haha ok :) |
| 19:18.29 | Heartsbane | otherwise eightyeight it can wait until you are free to answer my questions |
| 19:18.59 | keldwud | I bet the wind is affecting more than just my location as far as services running throughout the valley |
| 19:19.13 | Heartsbane | you know the Sysadmin creed it is not important if you can ssh into the box or something catches fire |
| 19:19.16 | levi | Telephones are actually nice to have for the purpose of making phone calls. I wouldn't want to exclusively have softphones. IP phones would be fine, but honestly an unlocked PAP2 is pretty cheap and you probably already have phones. |
| 19:19.21 | Heartsbane | :) |
| 19:19.27 | Heartsbane | goes back to lurking. |
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| 19:21.47 | unum | was bluehost used in the target security breach? |
| 19:22.09 | levi | I mean, $30 or so and it also does the SIP signalling for you, so you don't need to tie up a Pi. |
| 19:22.29 | dumby | But then that's only 1 phone, correct? |
| 19:22.38 | manithree1 | My PAP does 2 lines |
| 19:23.03 | levi | You unplug the phone service outside and plug your PAP2 into the nearest wall jack. |
| 19:23.08 | unum | any recommendation on sip providers? |
| 19:23.52 | unum | oh I see vitelity is a sip provider |
| 19:24.05 | dumby | I only really know business providers, not sure what's out there for home that's better than someone like Vitelity |
| 19:24.35 | unum | ya we use veracity for work |
| 19:24.36 | levi | Then you can plug your normal telephones in where you normally would, and everything works like normal (until something breaks and it doesn't). |
| 19:24.50 | unum | they provide local call presence, and everyone hate us for using it :) |
| 19:27.07 | dumby | I just really like my Asterisk. Plus, having a soft phone on your cell is always nice |
| 19:28.01 | levi | You can always put asterisk between the PAP2 and your trunk provider. That's how I'm set up at the moment, with asterisk running on an ancient laptop with a dead screen. |
| 19:28.07 | keldwud | I wonder how much money I would save if I cut data out of my plan and went voice only |
| 19:28.20 | keldwud | -er wait |
| 19:28.26 | keldwud | I could cut out my whole plan altogether |
| 19:28.33 | keldwud | and just use wifi on my s3 |
| 19:28.51 | dumby | I wish I could get just data. I'd pay $50/month for 5 GB |
| 19:28.52 | levi | keldwud: For a long time, I used a pre-paid cell plan, and it was super-cheap. |
| 19:28.53 | keldwud | of course, then I couldn't go mobile. could only work from work and home |
| 19:29.06 | keldwud | yeah I could go pre-paid |
| 19:29.15 | keldwud | to give me soemthing to fall back on when I'm not at home or work |
| 19:29.32 | keldwud | easily add another 100 bucks back to the monthly budget. that's a lot of money |
| 19:29.47 | keldwud | that's a couple more classes I could be sending my daughter to |
| 19:30.06 | dumby | loss of sms is very inconvenient for me, which is unfortunate |
| 19:30.14 | keldwud | I use google voice |
| 19:30.18 | keldwud | I wouldn't lose sms |
| 19:30.53 | keldwud | hell, I went quite a few years without a cell phone already. I was using my kindle keyboard to text. since it had a free 3g connection |
| 19:31.01 | keldwud | and a browser where I could login to google voice |
| 19:31.26 | keldwud | $lastjob got me hooked on having a cell phone with a data plan |
| 19:31.50 | dumby | I use about 5 GB / month |
| 19:33.10 | dumby | I was working out ways earlier this year I could go all to VOIP and carrier data, but it just wasn't feasible with the plans offered by carriers |
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| 19:56.56 | jnbek | ~lart the stupid wind |
| 19:56.56 | infobot | DoSes the stupid wind |
| 19:57.10 | jnbek | oddly appropriate |
| 19:57.50 | Migs | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H0Ib9SwC7EI |
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| 20:23.49 | keldwud | anybody ever use logzilla? |
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| 21:54.32 | youtah | Database time |
| 21:54.37 | youtah | Lots of records to update |
| 21:54.42 | youtah | here I go....... |
| 21:55.02 | youtah | queues Fatboy Slim Weapon of Choice (excellent music video btw) |
| 21:56.32 | T4rku5 | You can go with this, you can go with that, you can go with this, you can go with that, or you can go with us! |
| 22:02.21 | keldwud | right about now |
| 22:02.28 | keldwud | check it out now |
| 22:02.55 | keldwud | "right about now, the funk soul brotha, check it out now, the funk soul brotha" (repeat ad infinitum) |
| 22:04.48 | keldwud | fatboy slim was actually one of the first mp3's I ever downloaded. |
| 22:04.54 | keldwud | back when mp3's were new |
| 22:05.44 | keldwud | from the astralwerks website. they were streets ahead back around the mid to late nineties |
| 22:05.50 | keldwud | I remember it was before napster was around |
| 22:07.50 | keldwud | each artist they carried had a few free mp3s. It was pretty dope. I think I downloaded a chemical brothers mp3 and some future sound of london (papua new guinea) |
| 22:08.40 | keldwud | the first mp3 I ever downloaded and listened to was butterfly wings by machines of loving grace. I think this was before winamp may have existed |
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| 22:09.41 | levi | youtah: If you walk without rhythm, it won't attract the worm |
| 22:12.32 | T4rku5 | ah, you never learn |
| 22:13.59 | keldwud | fear is the mind killer |
| 22:18.40 | keldwud | oh, maybe it was a real audio stream |
| 22:18.45 | keldwud | remember real audio? |
| 22:19.31 | keldwud | yeah, that's how I listened to astralwerks's artists |
| 22:19.32 | keldwud | http://web.archive.org/web/19980504204550/http://astralwerks.com/fsol/explosive.html |
| 22:21.54 | keldwud | there we go. I listned to quite a few of these streams back in the day: http://web.archive.org/web/19980717071023/http://astralwerks.com/highfidelity/hifiasn.html |
| 22:22.48 | keldwud | I had never heard of fatboy slim before I listened to him on his label's website |
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| 22:28.26 | levi | Nice. |
| 22:29.52 | levi | Sweet! I got this bluetooth dev kit running. |
| 22:54.17 | Tene | Nice! |
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| 22:59.30 | levi | Heh. I called my wife... apparently the A2DP profile works, but not the headset profile. Or maybe I don't have things configured completely. |
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| 23:08.51 | RyanE | always uncomfortable when you can hear them, and them not you, or vice-versa... |
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| 23:12.22 | levi | Would be nice to have some docs describing what all these jumpers do. I'm sure they exist, but they could at least provide a URL, if not a disc. |