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| 03:38.28 | fozzmoo | Really, RyanE? |
| 04:17.19 | RyanE | I hit 'up', it gave me that. |
| 04:17.28 | RyanE | it was supposed to be a /clear, I swear. :) |
| 04:18.10 | RyanE | I'll blame it on irssi, or screen, or mosh, or ssh, or gnome terminal or Linux. |
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| 16:19.59 | youtah | Facebook & Twitter need keyword filter functionality naively built in. Even better if it allowed regex. |
| 16:20.18 | youtah | My first filter would be to block anything .*doTerra.* |
| 16:22.01 | eightyeight | i've been vocal for a while that standard browsers need transparent regex support |
| 16:22.18 | eightyeight | although some characters might get in the way, like '.' or '?' |
| 16:22.50 | youtah | I meant natively |
| 16:37.51 | youtah | OMG https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5CjldZLXiAU#t=138 |
| 16:40.07 | youtah | http://www.ksl.com/?sid=29039004&nid=1171&title=mother-shocked-to-find-her-face-on-revenge-porn-site&fm=home_page&s_cid=featured-1 |
| 16:41.45 | T4rku5 | yeah, that's a pretty big setup |
| 16:42.10 | eightyeight | ... seems i read this a while ago |
| 16:44.56 | youtah | which one eightyeight ? |
| 16:45.06 | youtah | That's what I was thinking T4rku5 |
| 16:45.09 | eightyeight | exactly |
| 16:45.16 | youtah | lol |
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| 16:47.55 | keldwud | do most people generally use kibana as their front end to elastic search, or are there people who use graylog? |
| 16:49.17 | youtah | Never heard of it before keldwud |
| 16:49.20 | youtah | looks cool |
| 16:50.53 | keldwud | kibana? or graylog? or elastic search? |
| 16:50.54 | keldwud | or all three? |
| 16:50.55 | keldwud | lol |
| 16:51.06 | youtah | lol |
| 16:51.09 | youtah | elastic search |
| 16:51.13 | youtah | http://www.elasticsearch.org/overview/kibana/ |
| 16:51.15 | keldwud | yeah, it's pretty neat |
| 16:51.26 | keldwud | I'm using it in my syslog / logstash pipe |
| 16:51.51 | youtah | Makes me want to play with my logs |
| 16:51.57 | youtah | (that sounded really weird) |
| 16:53.23 | T4rku5 | http://pastebin.com/f7DPskc7 |
| 16:54.26 | keldwud | anybody else going to mountainwest devops next week? or bsides? |
| 16:57.46 | youtah | ah man |
| 16:57.50 | youtah | my pebble just died |
| 16:58.29 | youtah | This is so freaking cool keldwud |
| 16:58.51 | keldwud | lol |
| 16:59.07 | youtah | I've seen logstash, never seen kibana before |
| 16:59.08 | keldwud | well I only just started playing with it two weeks ago |
| 16:59.15 | youtah | Easy to setup/use? |
| 17:02.02 | keldwud | yeah it's part of the logstash.jar |
| 17:02.18 | keldwud | all I did was run logstash.jar web |
| 17:02.32 | keldwud | and then opened a web browser |
| 17:02.52 | keldwud | and browsed to the IP (and port 9292 I think, I natted it to 80) |
| 17:03.27 | keldwud | well shit |
| 17:03.32 | keldwud | I didn't bring lunch today |
| 17:03.39 | keldwud | because I thought there was a team lunch :( |
| 17:03.47 | keldwud | and I don't have money 'til tomorrow |
| 17:03.52 | keldwud | so dum |
| 17:09.44 | jima | keldwud: good news: there IS a team lunch |
| 17:09.52 | jima | keldwud: bad news: you're paying for it |
| 17:10.09 | keldwud | and I'm the only one going :) |
| 17:10.20 | keldwud | 'cept my house is so far from here :( |
| 17:10.27 | jima | nope, i invited the rest of the desk, they'll be at your desk momentarily. |
| 17:10.28 | keldwud | I don't have time to go home and get lunch |
| 17:10.34 | jima | where's work? |
| 17:11.18 | keldwud | utah county |
| 17:11.20 | keldwud | orem |
| 17:11.24 | keldwud | home is in south provo |
| 17:11.30 | jima | ow. |
| 17:11.31 | keldwud | payday is tomorrow, yay :) |
| 17:11.38 | jima | \o/ |
| 17:11.47 | jima | unfortunately lunch is today :-( |
| 17:11.47 | keldwud | that's what I get for counting on a free lunch |
| 17:11.53 | keldwud | ^ |
| 17:11.57 | jima | didn't you know there's no such thing? |
| 17:13.00 | keldwud | nice try community college economy professor ;) |
| 17:13.28 | keldwud | although I'll totally accept the physics professor |
| 17:13.37 | keldwud | who would probably say almost the exact same thing |
| 17:13.52 | keldwud | but using energy instead, to explain it |
| 17:14.00 | keldwud | and something something laws of thermodynamics |
| 17:18.11 | jima | clearly that's what i meant, duh. |
| 17:18.28 | jima | like i'm any kind of professor...pfft...that would require that i had a college degree myself. ;-) |
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| 17:27.40 | manithree1 | forgot a lunch today, too |
| 17:28.48 | keldwud | maybe youtah can bring us all nachos :) |
| 17:29.10 | keldwud | I even skipped breakfast because I thought I'd be over-eating at lunch |
| 17:30.43 | manithree1 | I'm 20 miles from home now (after 17 years if 1.3 miles) so I'm probably eating out today. |
| 17:37.44 | jima | keldwud: no way, youtah works way up in cottonwood heights. |
| 17:37.52 | jima | unless he's not at the office. |
| 17:38.05 | jima | i should get youtah to bring ME nachos ;-) |
| 17:38.12 | keldwud | oh hey, are you gonna use some PTO tomorrow to take an early day to make it to lunch tomorrow, youtah? |
| 17:38.18 | keldwud | jima: I totally would if I had money |
| 17:38.27 | keldwud | but if I had money, I'd be able to get myself lunch |
| 17:38.51 | jima | keldwud: no, i said youtah specifically because we work right by each other |
| 17:38.59 | jima | but we're so antisocial that we haven't met yet |
| 17:39.06 | keldwud | oh I fail at parsing |
| 17:39.13 | keldwud | I read the you but not the tah |
| 17:39.18 | keldwud | I skim read everything |
| 17:39.38 | keldwud | it's how I justify slacking off at work while getting work done at the same time ;) |
| 17:39.55 | jima | wait, you bother rationalizing? ;-) |
| 17:40.18 | keldwud | I'm still young |
| 17:40.48 | keldwud | okay wth? what did I change to make it stop working? |
| 17:41.07 | keldwud | looks at his logstash that shows a test message from logger at 10:04 |
| 17:41.13 | keldwud | and now when I send that exact same command |
| 17:41.15 | keldwud | nothing... |
| 17:44.51 | keldwud | http://youtu.be/6XQfGmBnlMU |
| 17:53.28 | manithree1 | is elasticsearch as good as splunk? |
| 17:54.12 | manithree1 | oh, n/m it looks different. |
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| 17:57.00 | youtah | keldwud, jima you're fighting over me? I feel loved! |
| 17:57.11 | youtah | was away at lunch |
| 17:57.21 | youtah | eats another goldfish cracker |
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| 18:02.08 | youtah | Why Pebble why?!? Your replacement cable order page isn't secure! http://pages.getpebble.com/pages/replacement-cable (embedding an https page via iframe isnt secure) |
| 18:11.12 | jima | of course not...you could intercept the http request and inject your own (valid, but different-domain) https iframe. |
| 18:13.05 | keldwud | okay, is it just me, or does this track from fallout sound anything like the mood music on flight of the navigator? http://tindeck.com/listen/wtup |
| 18:14.04 | jima | doesn't do audio at work, and hasn't seen that movie in forever anyway |
| 18:15.02 | keldwud | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gVebPEYiq2o |
| 18:15.49 | youtah | cries.... youtah's out of fish crackers |
| 18:16.53 | youtah | exactly jima |
| 18:18.30 | jima | youtah: i knew you knew, i was just validating that your point makes sense |
| 18:19.00 | jima | if you don't think too hard about it, it seems secure |
| 18:19.14 | jima | "it has ssl! of COURSE it's secure!" |
| 18:22.07 | youtah | lol |
| 18:22.10 | youtah | cries |
| 18:22.28 | youtah | I told them in the IRC channel a couple of months ago and they said that it was perfectly secure |
| 18:22.32 | youtah | #pebble |
| 18:22.42 | youtah | I went again today to see if they had updated it, they had not. |
| 18:22.44 | youtah | is sad |
| 18:23.43 | youtah | flings Tapioca pudding int Pebbles general direction with a plastic spoon |
| 18:23.48 | youtah | in* |
| 18:24.40 | Migs | University of the People just got accredited in January: http://www.uopeople.org/ |
| 18:24.45 | Migs | in case anyone wants a free computer science or business degree |
| 18:26.01 | youtah | http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/special/world/malaysian-air-scale/ |
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| 18:28.58 | Greagle | wow @Migs, that's sweet, never heard of this site |
| 18:31.44 | cjcothran | what kind of accredidation? |
| 18:31.47 | cjcothran | checks |
| 18:31.53 | cjcothran | i.e. what is it compatible with |
| 18:31.53 | cjcothran | doh |
| 18:32.27 | jima | youtah: did you explain why it's not secure? |
| 18:32.29 | Migs | DETC |
| 18:32.33 | Migs | national accreditation, not regional |
| 18:32.47 | Migs | this one is getting pretty close to accreditation, too: http://theweu.com |
| 18:32.52 | Migs | hopefully within a year or so |
| 18:32.59 | Migs | realistically, maybe two |
| 18:33.39 | Migs | UofPeople doesn't offer a lot of degree options, but at least they chose two good ones |
| 18:34.09 | Greagle | have you studied with Coursera? |
| 18:34.25 | Migs | Coursera isn't a university. It's a MOOC provider. |
| 18:34.36 | Greagle | oh, don't get smart with me ^_^ |
| 18:34.38 | Migs | UoP and WEU are both actual institutions |
| 18:34.45 | youtah | not really jima |
| 18:34.47 | Migs | they function autonomously |
| 18:34.55 | Greagle | cool |
| 18:35.15 | Migs | others like edX and Udacity are MOOC providers, too |
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| 18:36.31 | Greagle | yeah, that makes sense |
| 18:36.38 | Greagle | you can get a certification or something now with Coursera |
| 18:36.47 | Greagle | it costs a little bit to have them say you passed their course |
| 18:37.07 | Migs | does the certification actually mean anything? |
| 18:37.42 | Greagle | I suppose your asking if it's valuable, and I suppose it depends on what you choose to recognize |
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| 18:38.04 | Greagle | it probably doesn't mean a lot if you don't care about Coursera.. I don't know how it is all working out |
| 18:40.29 | youtah | "Top 10 Creepy Kids Movies" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N3_1cLWREIY |
| 18:41.15 | Greagle | I've been taking some courses, but not for the certifications because I don't think anyone recognizes them |
| 18:43.30 | Migs | if it's not an industry-recognized certification, there's no point in getting it |
| 18:43.37 | jima | youtah: ok, then they may merely be ignorant rather than willfully stupid. |
| 18:44.12 | youtah | yeah, I didn't have much time |
| 18:44.17 | youtah | if I recall |
| 18:44.19 | Greagle | what makes it industry-recognized? |
| 18:45.04 | keldwud | Greagle: coursera has the signature tracks |
| 18:45.09 | keldwud | where you have a proctored test |
| 18:45.18 | keldwud | which counts for something since you have to take a test with a picture ID |
| 18:45.32 | Greagle | so would it be worth it to certify courses? |
| 18:45.35 | keldwud | and it's officially accreddited |
| 18:45.36 | Greagle | I guess it could |
| 18:45.38 | Greagle | yeah |
| 18:45.50 | keldwud | with those schools' names on it |
| 18:45.59 | keldwud | it can be added to your transcript afaik |
| 18:46.02 | Migs | yes, some are accredited through the schools |
| 18:46.12 | Migs | but you have to be enrolled AT the school |
| 18:46.25 | Migs | some of them can likely be transferred to other schools later, if you want to go through the hassle |
| 18:47.54 | keldwud | oh yeah, that was it |
| 18:48.03 | keldwud | you have to have it transferred to a school to get it added to your transcript |
| 18:52.51 | youtah | jima, I just, very nicely, informed someone in the channel of the vulnerability |
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| 19:01.08 | Greagle | Migs, do you have a degree ? |
| 19:01.49 | Greagle | better question: are you studying online to get a degree? |
| 19:04.14 | Migs | I have a bachelors and masters. I received my masters fully online. |
| 19:04.56 | jima | Migs: you downloaded the diploma and everything!? (sorry.) |
| 19:04.57 | Migs | and a graduate certificate in online teaching, for that matter |
| 19:04.59 | Migs | hahaha |
| 19:05.03 | Migs | No. |
| 19:05.09 | Migs | I paid a fee and they mailed it. |
| 19:05.13 | jima | THEN IT WASN'T FULLY ONLINE ;-) |
| 19:05.18 | Migs | sure it was |
| 19:05.31 | Migs | they send a JPG too |
| 19:05.32 | Migs | *sent |
| 19:05.40 | Migs | lo-res |
| 19:06.01 | jima | nope, you'd have to burn the hard copy before you can honestly make that claim :-) |
| 19:06.09 | jima | </pedant> |
| 19:06.17 | jima | ^ again, that's a lie, i can't turn that off |
| 19:07.17 | jima | ok, time to flip the switch on this routing |
| 19:07.58 | Greagle | LOL |
| 19:09.01 | Greagle | it's called a Signature Track to show the world my identity |
| 19:09.21 | Greagle | $39.00 if I do it with this international criminal justice course |
| 19:09.51 | Greagle | p.s. youtah, that comment about vulnerability, just made me feel vulnerable :O :D |
| 19:10.26 | Greagle | it's even eCertified |
| 19:10.56 | youtah | Greagle, it shows that they're on the pebble.com network too |
| 19:11.30 | Migs | Greagle: I have no idea what you just said |
| 19:14.36 | Greagle | :D |
| 19:15.41 | Greagle | ehh, basically, I am describing it from my end what it looks like when I register for a course |
| 19:16.07 | Greagle | but, I'd be interested in knowing whether or not you feel like certification in this way is good. |
| 19:16.49 | Greagle | https://www.coursera.org/signature/course/logic1/971676?utm_source=spark&utm_medium=banner |
| 19:17.24 | Greagle | this course is interesting, so I just enrolled, but I am not going to pay extra because I don't feel like people will find their course certificate valuable |
| 19:17.49 | keldwud | ok, I'm excited. I'm giving my first formal work presentation tomorrow |
| 19:18.06 | keldwud | on our centralized logging solution through the use of logstash |
| 19:23.41 | keldwud | well that's a good sign. the resource I requested accepted my appointment :) |
| 19:31.38 | keldwud | what do you guys use on your windows machines in your logstash pipe? I see snare and syslog-win32. those the standards? anything I'm missing? experiences with one or the other, bad or good? |
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| 21:40.24 | keldwud | phew |
| 21:40.36 | keldwud | that was kind a stressful but in a good way |
| 21:40.41 | keldwud | just finished presenting on logstash |
| 21:40.47 | keldwud | and boy did I suck balls at answering questions |
| 21:40.48 | keldwud | :) |
| 21:43.49 | programmerq | keldwud: who was the audience? I'm actually somewhat interested in logstash. |
| 21:43.53 | programmerq | I've used splunk before |
| 21:44.11 | programmerq | I set up a test install of logstash a couple weeks ago and saw my /var/log/syslog stuff there. |
| 21:44.14 | programmerq | that's as far as I got though |
| 22:19.35 | youtah | OMGosh... I think I finally got this init.d script working |
| 22:19.37 | youtah | again |
| 22:19.38 | youtah | Uhg |
| 22:20.06 | youtah | WRiting the same script to work on CentOS and Ubuntu = not fun |
| 22:26.19 | youtah | It's alive! IT'S ALIVE! |
| 22:50.37 | youtah | So...... |
| 22:50.40 | youtah | what's up? |
| 22:51.24 | youtah | I'm just sitting here |
| 22:51.26 | youtah | chillin' |
| 22:51.31 | youtah | watchin my scripts run |
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| 22:51.38 | youtah | waiting for them to not break |
| 22:52.58 | romanovic | this isn't the first run is it? |
| 22:53.47 | youtah | no |
| 22:53.48 | romanovic | is always afraid when complex scripts "work" on the first run, always wondering if they aren't running what he thinks they're running |
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| 23:00.04 | jlp_znc | all scripts work when you run them... they just sometimes print errors. |
| 23:00.12 | youtah | lol |
| 23:00.35 | jlp_znc | so, anyone on channel with linkedin? I mean, not having a linkedin account... actually working at linkedin? |
| 23:01.04 | jlp_znc | I had a phone screen this afternoon. went quite well. interestingly, one of the questions was very similar to one I got from google four years ago. |
| 23:01.14 | fungus | youtah, then don't do "init.d" scripts. Write an Upstart/systemd config. Much easier. |
| 23:01.48 | fungus | ~sysvinit-- |
| 23:02.00 | jlp_znc | what!? |
| 23:02.21 | jlp_znc | sysvinit >> 4.2bsd "rc" |
| 23:02.46 | fungus | sure, but upstart/systemd >> sysvinit |
| 23:02.53 | jlp_znc | well, that may be true |
| 23:02.58 | jlp_znc | ~karma sysvinit |
| 23:02.58 | infobot | sysvinit has karma of -1 |
| 23:03.12 | jlp_znc | I think it should have at least karma of zero |
| 23:03.35 | jlp_znc | it's not that bad, really |
| 23:04.34 | fungus | only if you ignore newer options. |
| 23:04.36 | fugue88 | ~karma openrc |
| 23:04.36 | infobot | openrc has neutral karma |
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| 23:26.46 | youtah | Would they pay you $900,000 jlp_znc? |
| 23:26.51 | youtah | A MONTH!?!?! |
| 23:28.00 | jlp_znc | I only asked for $160-170k base salary. :-) |
| 23:30.19 | youtah | http://imgur.com/gallery/dTEXC |
| 23:34.45 | shalkie | youtah: Thanks... I never thought of balloons on that scale. :-\ |
| 23:35.04 | youtah | lol... the more you know |
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