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| 00:52.15 | davido_ | This fiber talk has me wondering... what alternatives do I have to Xfinity/comcast in Sandy (near Little CW Cyn)? |
| 01:02.07 | ldav15_ | davido_: CenturyLink rolled out some fiber in Sandy about 18mo ago or so in my area. You might call them and ask if it's in your area. |
| 01:02.32 | davido_ | Will Google encompass this area? |
| 01:02.45 | davido_ | Or are they targeting SLC proper? |
| 01:03.13 | davido_ | I wonder how century link compares to xfinity in pricing. |
| 01:03.37 | ldav15_ | It was my understanding they were going to be in SLC proper at first. |
| 01:03.53 | davido_ | Haven't actually been unhappy with what I'm getting from xfinity, but it never hurts to shop better performance or pricing. |
| 01:05.00 | ldav15_ | true. |
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| 01:20.21 | jxqz | how can an rpm both require and provide the same lib? |
| 01:23.54 | ldav15_ | jxqz: I've never tried that. Does rpm not install it? |
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| 15:43.00 | programm1 | anyone have any opinions they'd like to share about activemq, rabbitmq, or any other competitors? we're leaning towards rabbit. even if you can give a "heads up" as to what to look out for, that'd be handy. |
| 15:47.40 | eightyeight | i only have experience with 0mq |
| 15:47.59 | eightyeight | mostly because of salt |
| 15:48.39 | eightyeight | but i've played with it on my own as well. pretty lightweight. pretty fast. |
| 15:50.04 | jsmith | programm1: I'm no expert, but my word of advice is "beware the broker" |
| 15:50.12 | jsmith | programm1: So yeah -- look at 0mq |
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| 15:53.04 | keldwud | programm1: I have that exact same question |
| 15:53.29 | keldwud | I've found about a 50/50 split between redis and rabbitmq |
| 15:53.40 | keldwud | in my informal surveys from other channels |
| 15:53.43 | programmerq | redis isn't really amqp though |
| 15:53.48 | programmerq | it is queueing |
| 15:53.55 | keldwud | and I'm only looking for a broker for logstash |
| 15:53.59 | programmerq | ah |
| 15:54.00 | keldwud | so that's why the different context |
| 15:54.12 | programmerq | yeah, redis would be perfect for that, tbh |
| 15:54.32 | keldwud | some of the people I've spoken with that run large environments prefer rabbitmq |
| 15:54.53 | programmerq | I believe that. :) |
| 15:54.57 | keldwud | but then again, some prefer redis. that's why I'm confused :) |
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| 16:20.56 | keldwud | so I listened to a bunch of smashing pumpkins last night |
| 16:20.59 | keldwud | brought back memories |
| 16:21.57 | goozbach | led zepplin makes for an awesome seed on pandora |
| 16:25.22 | keldwud | I ditched pandora after 5 years |
| 16:25.31 | keldwud | paid even |
| 16:25.58 | keldwud | and now google play all access serves my every need |
| 16:26.00 | keldwud | swoons |
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| 16:41.57 | keldwud | anybody else going to mountainwest devops track? |
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| 17:05.11 | keldwud | does anyone know if mountain west has a deadline for registration or if it sells out? |
| 17:05.19 | keldwud | I won't be able to get my tickets until the 15th |
| 17:05.33 | keldwud | mtwest devops to be more specific |
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| 17:16.28 | jxqz | ldav15: I'm trying to build an rpm and rpmbuild is complaining about a ton of provides and requires |
| 17:16.56 | keldwud | utah county tech lunch. jason's Deli, south orem, Next Friday (14th), 11:30 |
| 17:18.02 | goozbach | jxqz: you need to install them |
| 17:18.17 | goozbach | or you can use mock to build it and it should install them |
| 17:18.27 | jxqz | keldwud: google can now replace you with a shell script |
| 17:18.33 | jxqz | it knows everything about you |
| 17:19.17 | jxqz | goozbach: this is a kitchen sink kind of package that 'should |
| 17:19.29 | jxqz | ' be providing almost all its own deps |
| 17:19.51 | keldwud | I think that would be pretty sexy to be a shell script, actually :) |
| 17:20.02 | keldwud | and since it is google, I'm sure there would be a lot of python in it |
| 17:20.06 | keldwud | I'm feeling sexier already |
| 17:20.07 | keldwud | wow |
| 17:20.24 | jxqz | keldwud: google's newest fanboi |
| 17:20.30 | jxqz | :) |
| 17:20.33 | goozbach | https://google-styleguide.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/shell.xml |
| 17:20.40 | goozbach | google and shell scripts |
| 17:20.49 | keldwud | well you mentioned shell script and I added python and how can yuo say no to that? |
| 17:20.55 | keldwud | I love shell scripts and python |
| 17:21.52 | keldwud | I try so hard not to be a google fan boy, but between the fiber and google play all access, android, search, I have a difficult time hating on them |
| 17:22.21 | jxqz | goozbach: rpmbuild is not finding the connections between the base package and provided 3rd party included pkgs |
| 17:22.24 | keldwud | oh and self driving cars |
| 17:22.37 | keldwud | those are going to save so many freaking lives |
| 17:22.45 | jxqz | keldwud: google had its Citizen Kane moment some time ago |
| 17:22.45 | keldwud | hundreds of thousands |
| 17:22.48 | goozbach | jxqz: have an example spec? |
| 17:22.59 | keldwud | I still haven't seen Citizen Kane :( |
| 17:23.00 | jxqz | statement of principles >> fire |
| 17:23.04 | keldwud | I should watch that tonight |
| 17:23.08 | jxqz | yes |
| 17:23.19 | keldwud | I've already been spoiled of course |
| 17:23.32 | keldwud | I think that's why I've put it off for so long |
| 17:23.49 | keldwud | I wanted to try and forget about the spoiler so I could be surprised the first time I watch it |
| 17:24.37 | jxqz | eh |
| 17:24.40 | jxqz | spoiler |
| 17:24.48 | jxqz | Citizen Kane can't have spoilers |
| 17:24.55 | keldwud | umm... the sled? |
| 17:24.59 | jxqz | it's too big, too perfect to have a spoiler |
| 17:25.03 | jxqz | what about it? |
| 17:25.06 | keldwud | rosebud |
| 17:25.13 | jxqz | that's a ploy |
| 17:25.15 | keldwud | apparently it's supposed to be a twist |
| 17:25.19 | jxqz | it's a mock of a spoiler |
| 17:25.22 | keldwud | not knowing that rosebud is the sled |
| 17:25.26 | keldwud | woohoo! |
| 17:25.38 | keldwud | so I haven't been spoiled? |
| 17:25.38 | jxqz | citizen Kane is more like a shakespeare play |
| 17:25.44 | jxqz | its story is supposed to be universal |
| 17:25.55 | jxqz | and hence, can't have spoilers by definition |
| 17:26.26 | keldwud | hmm 2 bucks |
| 17:26.31 | keldwud | I think I can afford that |
| 17:26.37 | keldwud | it's available on prime |
| 17:26.41 | keldwud | but I don't have internet at home yet |
| 17:27.01 | keldwud | wait |
| 17:27.02 | keldwud | what? |
| 17:27.09 | keldwud | It'S LETTING ME DOWNLOAD IT? |
| 17:27.12 | keldwud | OMG |
| 17:27.24 | keldwud | my kindle fire lets me download amazon prime videos! |
| 17:27.29 | keldwud | WHY DID NOBODY TELL ME THIS!?? |
| 17:27.40 | jxqz | it's probably DRM entangled |
| 17:27.46 | jxqz | strangled |
| 17:27.48 | keldwud | I'VE BEEN HALF A YEAR WITHOUT INTERNETS |
| 17:27.54 | keldwud | and I didn't know I could be watching shows! |
| 17:28.13 | keldwud | strangled? what? I can watch it on my kindle fire hdx. so why do I care if it's strangled? |
| 17:28.15 | keldwud | :-p |
| 17:28.19 | keldwud | I'm also an amazon fan boy |
| 17:28.28 | keldwud | open source people will not like me very well :) |
| 17:28.37 | keldwud | p.s. I love xbox live |
| 17:28.51 | keldwud | I'm just a walking bag of troll bait for the open source movement |
| 17:29.09 | jxqz | heh |
| 17:29.48 | keldwud | seriously. finding out just now that I can download amazon prime videos without needing an internet connection at home to stream it is a GAME CHANGER |
| 17:30.27 | jxqz | having intarwebz @home is a game changer :) |
| 17:30.43 | keldwud | lol |
| 17:30.47 | jxqz | it's 2014? Why don't I have a fibre into my house?! |
| 17:31.00 | keldwud | I'll know the answer to that question before the end of the business day |
| 17:31.10 | keldwud | checks his email again for an email from google to install his fiber |
| 17:31.25 | keldwud | damn. not yet |
| 17:32.08 | jxqz | keldwud: where u live? |
| 17:32.28 | jxqz | Provo? why not u get teh fibres when it was iProvo? |
| 17:32.29 | keldwud | downtown provo |
| 17:32.46 | jxqz | I had iProvo clear back in 2007! |
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| 17:33.01 | keldwud | in 2007 I was living in salt lake city |
| 17:33.09 | keldwud | driving a taxi |
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| 17:33.33 | keldwud | I started living in provo in september of last year |
| 17:33.34 | davido_ | Bleah!!!!! "The upgrade needs a total of 70.6 M free space on disk '/boot'. Please free at least an additional 15.6 M of disk space on '/boot'" :(((( |
| 17:33.53 | keldwud | davido_: rm /*.log |
| 17:33.58 | keldwud | oh rm -r |
| 17:34.00 | keldwud | sorry :) |
| 17:34.31 | keldwud | logs, who needs'em |
| 17:34.36 | keldwud | they just take up space ;) |
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| 17:35.39 | davido_ | Nope, no logs. ...some old kernels though. |
| 17:35.57 | davido_ | That's a partition I prefer not to mess with too much. ;) |
| 17:36.04 | jxqz | davido_: what distro? |
| 17:36.22 | jxqz | ubuntu likes to spam your /boot with kernels every day |
| 17:36.28 | jxqz | and not autoremove them |
| 17:36.35 | jxqz | like fedora |
| 17:36.40 | jxqz | like a decent distro :) |
| 17:36.50 | davido_ | Ubuntu |
| 17:37.45 | keldwud | omg ew |
| 17:37.51 | keldwud | I can smell what I ate yesterday |
| 17:37.54 | davido_ | Yeah, whatever. ;) |
| 17:37.57 | keldwud | but it was soooo good |
| 17:38.08 | keldwud | I got a 5 guys burger with almost everything on it |
| 17:38.19 | jxqz | keldwud: ugh |
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| 17:38.32 | jxqz | that place gives me the ughs :) |
| 17:38.44 | T4rku5 | it used to be fanatastic |
| 17:38.45 | keldwud | jxqz: haha. yeah, I try not to go more than once or twice per year |
| 17:38.52 | T4rku5 | then it went down. Don't know if it's still down |
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| 17:41.05 | jxqz | down? |
| 17:41.11 | jxqz | to chinatown? |
| 17:41.15 | keldwud | funky town |
| 17:41.25 | keldwud | does a little dance |
| 17:41.34 | keldwud | gets down tonight |
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| 17:50.57 | keldwud | $http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Trailer_Park_Boys_characters.example.com |
| 17:51.02 | keldwud | whoops |
| 17:51.03 | keldwud | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Trailer_Park_Boys_characters |
| 17:51.13 | keldwud | my host names for my pretend environment |
| 17:51.28 | keldwud | $(cat http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Trailer_Park_Boys_characters) |
| 17:51.29 | keldwud | there we go |
| 17:55.08 | jxqz | I've been going with olympians |
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| 18:31.33 | keldwud | I used to use names and places from the sprawl |
| 18:31.48 | keldwud | dunno why I stopped, really |
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| 18:40.29 | Jayce | http://joshworth.com/dev/pixelspace/pixelspace_solarsystem.html |
| 18:52.19 | programmerq | so I want to get some bids for getting sprinklers and sod put in. Can anyone recommend a company I should get a bid from? |
| 18:53.08 | eightyeight | i'm sure that's going to depend highly on where you live |
| 18:54.19 | programmerq | eagle mountain |
| 18:54.30 | programmerq | many companies will come out here if they service utah county at all |
| 18:54.47 | programmerq | (generally speaking across the trades, not necessarily specifically landscaping) |
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| 19:07.30 | unum | I don't think the one I'm using services Utah County |
| 19:07.43 | unum | I'm going to have him rip out my whole yard, start from scratch |
| 19:07.57 | unum | mostly to get rid of all the grass.... |
| 19:08.25 | unum | I'll see if any of his partners work out that way |
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| 19:44.55 | programmerq | I added up some costs to do it on my own, and my optimistic estimate is about $6000 |
| 19:45.20 | programmerq | well, conservatively optimistic |
| 19:45.33 | programmerq | quote from another company is $7500 |
| 19:49.23 | Jayce | programmerq: what part of EM? |
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| 19:56.10 | RyanE | That'd be the *populated* part, Jayce... :) |
| 20:06.52 | Jayce | so, not "city center" |
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| 20:25.16 | jxqz | that eagle utopia on the other side of magma displacement mountain |
| 20:26.30 | T4rku5 | magma displacement made some beautiful Hawaii a long time ago |
| 20:26.53 | jxqz | indeed |
| 20:27.09 | jxqz | the earth vomits |
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| 21:42.19 | unum | defeated by a copier |
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| 21:49.32 | bmurdock | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:52.29 | jxqz | new passwd, man |
| 21:53.12 | bmurdock | wait, wut? |
| 21:53.27 | bmurdock | wow, irc is so user friendly |
| 21:53.50 | bmurdock | um, so how do I change my nickserv password? |
| 21:53.51 | jxqz | haha |
| 21:53.59 | jxqz | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:54.07 | bmurdock | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:54.12 | bmurdock | just kidding |
| 21:55.02 | jxqz | I always make sure to msg sensitive stuff in the command window |
| 21:57.06 | bmurdock | searches for a command window |
| 21:57.27 | jxqz | what client are you using? |
| 21:57.31 | bmurdock | xchat |
| 21:57.40 | jsmith | hexchat is better! |
| 21:57.51 | bmurdock | sold |
| 21:58.03 | bmurdock | looks for hexchat |
| 21:58.12 | jxqz | there should be a pane that prints server connection and help messages |
| 21:58.29 | bmurdock | doesn't see an ubuntu package for hexchat |
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| 22:01.32 | tomstokes | Hexchat is for windows. :p |
| 22:02.17 | bmurdock | windoze people irc? |
| 22:02.36 | bmurdock | I actually did just find a hexchat package |
| 22:03.03 | tomstokes | Oh I guess I'm wrong, there are Linux and OS X packages. My apologies. |
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| 22:03.18 | bmurdock_ | hexchat looks exactly the same as xchat |
| 22:03.24 | bmurdock | and now I can talk to myself |
| 22:03.49 | bmurdock | so where is this command window? |
| 22:04.10 | tomstokes | In the channels pane, click on the server name. |
| 22:04.29 | bmurdock | oh |
| 22:04.30 | bmurdock | perfect |
| 22:04.31 | bmurdock | thanks |
| 22:10.30 | bmurdock | nickserv password changed, in case you were thinking of stealing my identity |
| 22:11.13 | jsmith | tomstokes: No, I'm running hexchat in Fedora :-) |
| 22:11.29 | tomstokes | jsmith: Yep, we figured it out |
| 22:11.33 | jsmith | :-) |
| 22:11.42 | jsmith | obviously tries to avoid being caught running windows |
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| 22:17.18 | jxqz | jsmith's on winders! |
| 22:17.34 | jxqz | ~dell jsmith |
| 22:17.35 | infobot | Dude! jsmith's getting a dell! |
| 22:17.38 | jxqz | haha |
| 22:17.42 | jxqz | made that one |
| 22:17.52 | jsmith | jxqz: Uh, no. |
| 22:18.05 | jsmith | jxqz: Not only am I not running Windows, I'm not on a Dell either :-p |
| 22:18.28 | jsmith | jxqz: And if you ever catch me running Windows on a Dell laptop, I'll buy you dinner :-) |
| 22:18.32 | jxqz | dell has made some decent hardware recently |
| 22:18.35 | jxqz | though |
| 22:18.49 | jxqz | at least their m110 is the roxorz |
| 22:18.55 | jxqz | best in class by fa |
| 22:18.56 | jxqz | r |
| 22:19.29 | jsmith | The m110 is a projector |
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| 22:33.07 | tomstokes | I first read that as "jsmith's getting a deli" |
| 22:33.12 | tomstokes | And I got hungry and wanted to go to it. |
| 22:33.17 | tomstokes | Now I'm just disappointed |
| 22:33.19 | jsmith | tomstokes: I'd prefer a deli :-) |
| 22:33.34 | jsmith | Instead of Jason's Deli, it would be JSmith's Deli |
| 22:35.15 | jxqz | I'm in control |
| 22:35.30 | jxqz | I can just reboot a VM whenever I feel like it |
| 22:35.47 | jxqz | no 'no reboot allowed' stigma affects me |
| 22:36.13 | jxqz | reboots like a winders user |
| 22:37.02 | jxqz | the other day I rebooted a system just because I could |
| 22:37.39 | jxqz | who cares about uptime anymore |
| 22:46.58 | unum | we were talking about rebooting monthly |
| 22:48.33 | jxqz | ~reboot unum |
| 22:48.34 | infobot | ACTION pushes unum's reset button |
| 22:48.46 | unum | a vendor emailed us a data file to upload to the server that runs their software, they told me to make sure I use "binary mode" |
| 22:49.16 | unum | I don't know why I keep expecting everyone else to share my biases against ftp, but they should |
| 22:49.27 | jxqz | haha |
| 22:49.51 | unum | I will not use it, no I won't |
| 22:50.01 | jxqz | if I have to interact with ftp, I usually just install filezilla and use that |
| 22:50.12 | unum | scp file server: |
| 22:50.20 | unum | that's how this transfer happened |
| 22:50.37 | jxqz | leave all the sftp, ftps, curl stuff behind |
| 22:50.43 | unum | actually I unzipped the file on my desktop, so I had to scp -r dir server: |
| 22:57.34 | jxqz | rsync ftw |
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| 23:10.31 | unum | webdav if you have to deal with winders |
| 23:10.49 | unum | it's the only secure way of allowing file uploads that windows allows out of the box |
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| 23:30.06 | jxqz | jsmith: and a wicked awesome projector at that |
| 23:30.25 | jsmith | would rather go eat sushi than sit here and talk projectors, sorry |
| 23:30.44 | jsmith | Luckily for me, I'm going out to eat sushi :-) |
| 23:30.45 | jxqz | does jsmith's deli even serve sushi? |
| 23:30.49 | jxqz | I didn't think so |
| 23:31.02 | jsmith | jxqz: No, but 168 Sushi in Ottawa, Canada does, apparently |
| 23:31.04 | jxqz | so anyway, 10000:1 contrast ratio! |
| 23:31.22 | jsmith | jxqz: So anyway, my chariot awaits! |
| 23:31.28 | jxqz | all for the low, low price of $399 |
| 23:31.52 | jxqz | s/chariot/projective geometry/ |
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| 23:40.27 | tomstokes | Who this m110 is really cool |
| 23:40.31 | tomstokes | Whoa, not who. |
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