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| 00:43.31 | shalkie | I just showed my co-worker the trailer for The Lego Movie.... |
| 00:44.36 | shalkie | I can't decide if I feel good or dirty for showing him. Hmmmm.... |
| 00:44.51 | shalkie | wanders off muttering something about everything being awesome... |
| 00:44.52 | levi | Haha. The Lego Movie is awesome. |
| 00:45.10 | shalkie | It totally is! |
| 00:45.13 | shalkie | :D |
| 00:45.48 | levi | I was skeptical after seeing the bits from the ads, but I totally loved it. |
| 00:46.03 | shalkie | Yep, and good for all ages. |
| 00:48.55 | levi | Yeah, my kids loved it too. |
| 01:40.11 | Greagle | wouldn't it be weird if we started going into another state and resolving their issues? that's what we're doing for ukraine/russia... sigh |
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| 16:45.22 | unum | while I support raising taxes to fund education, line 205 bothers me |
| 16:45.24 | unum | http://le.utah.gov/~2014/bills/static/SB0111.html |
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| 17:01.11 | ldav15_ | unum: It should. It seems to me they are still trying to figure out how to teach with tech two decades on. Giving kids an distraction device^H^H^H iPad is _not_ a solution. |
| 17:03.47 | fugue88 | It used to be that talking about what you were studying was considered "interactive." But, we don't talk anymore. We text. |
| 17:04.28 | fugue88 | And we watch moving pictures. |
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| 19:09.41 | youtah | Morning |
| 19:09.47 | youtah | Traffic sucked today |
| 19:10.02 | youtah | and when I say sucked... I mean it Suuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuucked |
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| 19:11.35 | keldwud | dude. I tried out the I-15 commute at 8am once just for shits and giggles to see what it was like and HOLY CRAP IT'S CRAZY OUT THERE |
| 19:11.43 | youtah | lol |
| 19:11.49 | keldwud | if I drove any slower than 80mph I would get run off the road |
| 19:11.50 | dumby_PC | it's basically war |
| 19:11.57 | keldwud | and people drive 2 feet behind your car |
| 19:11.58 | youtah | Hey jsmith .... how's this photo? https://scontent-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc1/t31/1900566_10203485527243053_1908737567_o.jpg |
| 19:12.17 | jessie | keldwud: But... Why would you *want* to go slower than 80mph? |
| 19:12.18 | keldwud | and then when I would speed up to 90 to put distance between me and the car behind me so I could move over, THEY WOULD STILL BE TWO FEET BEHIND ME |
| 19:12.25 | keldwud | jessie umm, because reasons |
| 19:12.41 | jessie | Crazy person. |
| 19:12.54 | jsmith | youtah: Underexposed :-p |
| 19:12.57 | keldwud | there's no reason you should drive two feet behind the car in front of you just because they are not going at your ideal speed |
| 19:13.03 | keldwud | but yeah, I'm never doing that again |
| 19:13.08 | keldwud | I forgot how dangerous everyone drives |
| 19:13.19 | keldwud | and how they forget that automobiles are weapons of mass destruction |
| 19:13.20 | jsmith | youtah: Not bad, though -- nice DoF, a bit of bokeh, and great leading lines... now you just need a strong focal point :-p |
| 19:13.27 | keldwud | it's like people don't even realize that cars kill people |
| 19:13.33 | jsmith | keldwud: or mass distraction |
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| 19:13.50 | youtah | and the subject jsmith? |
| 19:13.51 | keldwud | it's akin to carrying around a loaded gun with the safety off and just pointing it at whatever you want |
| 19:13.57 | keldwud | and not caring about the consequences |
| 19:14.03 | keldwud | that's what I relate driving to |
| 19:14.25 | jsmith | youtah: I really like the photo -- trust me, I do. But the one issue I have with the photo is that my eye jumps from spot to spot (mostly the ridges in where the bacon buckles up) |
| 19:14.46 | jsmith | youtah: A more soothing photograph would have one or two strong focal points, with leading lines drawing the eye to that spot (or two) |
| 19:15.22 | jsmith | youtah: That's all I know... but it's a simple trick I learned in freshman art (which I took as a senior, because I'm dumb) -- a line is a mark that causes the eye to follow |
| 19:15.38 | jsmith | youtah: A great picture gets your eye to move to the focal point, and then stop |
| 19:16.18 | youtah | Yeah.... not very many angles to work with while it's still in the oven, lol |
| 19:16.54 | jsmith | youtah: That being said, it's better than any photo I've taken in the past three months, so I shouldn't be critical at all |
| 19:17.21 | youtah | lol, naw |
| 19:17.30 | youtah | it is kind of a greasy photo.... |
| 19:17.41 | youtah | The subject was wonderful after the shoot.... |
| 19:18.33 | youtah | I also just uploaded 14 photos from SL Comic Con to my 500px account: http://500px.com/youtah |
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| 19:21.43 | keldwud | has anybody else encountered this? make changes to existing NAT and Firewall rules on Edge Gateway in vcloud. Gets stuck indefinitely in configuring? |
| 19:23.16 | youtah | 3600 year old cheese anyone? http://www.ksl.com/?sid=28946182&nid=1012&title=3600-year-old-cheese-found-on-mummies-necks |
| 19:23.24 | youtah | I personally would not eat the cheese |
| 19:23.37 | keldwud | I dare you |
| 19:24.09 | youtah | Not even on nachos |
| 19:24.16 | keldwud | what if it was melted? :) |
| 19:26.40 | davido_ | If anyone wants to step up and give a presentation at our March meeting next week for Salt Lake Perl Mongers please let me know. |
| 19:40.12 | jsmith | youtah: Yeah, some of the last photos I posted publicly were from DragonCon (way back in '12) |
| 19:42.01 | youtah | Have you guys played with DarkTable (like Lightroom) for linux before? |
| 19:42.03 | youtah | Kind of interesting |
| 19:42.10 | youtah | They have a PPA for Ubuntu. http://ppa.launchpad.net/pmjdebruijn/darktable-release/ubuntu |
| 19:44.33 | jsmith | youtah: Yeah, that's my go-to tool |
| 19:44.36 | jsmith | youtah: It's awesome :-) |
| 19:45.02 | youtah | Kind of slow and clunky, but looks awesome |
| 19:45.11 | youtah | I know LR inside and out... so it would be hard... but it's kind of the same |
| 19:46.06 | keldwud | heh... 'it would be hard' |
| 19:46.20 | keldwud | waits for it |
| 19:46.27 | youtah | lol |
| 19:46.35 | youtah | TWSS |
| 19:46.38 | youtah | obligatory |
| 19:48.09 | jsmith | youtah: I haven't used LR, but I really like darktable |
| 19:48.15 | youtah | yeah |
| 19:48.21 | youtah | LR is amazing. Truly amazing |
| 19:48.39 | jsmith | youtah: So I hear -- but then I'd have to pay through the nose for software, and well -- I'm obviously biased |
| 19:48.58 | RyanE | 40% of LightRoom is written in Lua, so I approve. :) |
| 19:49.09 | youtah | Yeah, you can grab it for $90 quite frequently |
| 19:50.01 | keldwud | heh "grab it quite frequently" |
| 19:50.07 | RyanE | heh |
| 19:50.08 | keldwud | sorry, the juvenile in me is taking over |
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| 19:53.35 | youtah | lol |
| 19:54.13 | youtah | Great fozzmoo .... now I'm watching BabyMetal |
| 19:54.19 | youtah | and it's all your fault |
| 20:01.39 | Jayce | jnbek be all over that stuff |
| 20:09.19 | jnbek | wait, whast? |
| 20:09.46 | youtah | BabyMetal |
| 20:10.07 | Jayce | link him, apparently he didn't pay attention when I tagged him on the book of faces |
| 20:10.13 | jnbek | oh yea |
| 20:10.15 | jnbek | I remember that |
| 20:10.23 | jnbek | tuck linked me a while ago |
| 20:10.26 | jnbek | shudders |
| 20:10.46 | Jayce | you're all over it |
| 20:10.56 | jnbek | yea.... no |
| 20:11.15 | jnbek | throws on some Eluveitie instead |
| 20:11.51 | youtah | lol |
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| 20:13.37 | youtah | Jayce, remember this one? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0c9LybUbxII |
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| 20:25.29 | youtah | Has jnbek seen any of DIE ANTWOORD's music videos? |
| 20:25.53 | youtah | Now that is disturbing |
| 20:25.58 | jnbek | not yet. I will be correcting that grave oversight shortly |
| 20:25.58 | youtah | NSFW Audio |
| 20:26.16 | youtah | and just so so wrong |
| 20:26.45 | jnbek | rap-rave, eh |
| 20:26.52 | jnbek | has second thoughts |
| 20:26.59 | youtah | yeah |
| 20:27.18 | youtah | it's the only thing that's worse than BabyMetal IMO |
| 20:28.23 | youtah | couldn't watch all of it |
| 20:28.29 | youtah | had to close it... too strange |
| 20:28.39 | jnbek | tries to decide which Amon Amarth vid to play now |
| 20:28.48 | youtah | lol |
| 20:28.50 | testicon | votes runestone to my memory |
| 20:28.57 | testicon | synchronized headbanging ftw |
| 20:29.41 | jnbek | chooses http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tBxJvJpmdqc#aid=P8G-TpxZOUA |
| 20:30.14 | keldwud | oh god I love DIE ANTWOORD |
| 20:30.25 | keldwud | been liking them since around 07ish |
| 20:30.26 | keldwud | ? |
| 20:30.55 | youtah | yeah, they're rather NSFW videos |
| 20:31.03 | youtah | Audio and Video |
| 20:31.07 | keldwud | heh |
| 20:31.14 | keldwud | what was that one about the slave boy? |
| 20:31.20 | keldwud | and the champagne glass full of... |
| 20:31.21 | keldwud | umm |
| 20:31.30 | youtah | The "Baby's on Fire" one |
| 20:31.35 | keldwud | I don't think there was a video, it was just a song |
| 20:32.13 | youtah | I think the only other video that made me feel this horrible was Salad Fingers |
| 20:32.18 | youtah | I cried for weeks |
| 20:33.10 | jnbek | I been getting on a 'folk metal' kick lately. Bands that mix Death Metal with traditional culture music. Orphaned Land (Arab/Hebrew), Eluveitie (Celtic/Germanic), Amon Amarth (Viking), Cruachan (Celtic), etc |
| 20:33.24 | keldwud | ooh, check out Devil's Cuntry |
| 20:33.26 | keldwud | local |
| 20:33.36 | keldwud | and yes, it is spelled that way |
| 20:33.40 | keldwud | no typo |
| 20:33.57 | youtah | turns on some N.W.O. Ministry |
| 20:34.35 | youtah | "rusty spoons" |
| 20:34.49 | Jayce | so JunkieXL did the soundtrack for the new 300 movie... *intrigued* |
| 20:34.59 | youtah | Oh? |
| 20:35.17 | Jayce | it's on spotify |
| 20:35.20 | youtah | Apparently Smiths just took over the naming rights for the Franklin Covey Field. |
| 20:35.49 | youtah | Can't stop Ministry mid-song... must wait before jumping over to JunkieXL |
| 20:36.41 | jnbek | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TzR3kiVpXBo <<--- local band too |
| 20:37.43 | Jayce | https://scontent-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/t1/1912111_10151948431876837_2146856842_n.jpg |
| 20:37.45 | jnbek | selfish plug: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NBgdhRjW5gY and yes, i know the bass is too loud :-P it's a cell phone video |
| 20:38.10 | jnbek | goes off to find some work to do now |
| 20:38.30 | keldwud | Smith's ballpark? |
| 20:38.36 | youtah | yeah |
| 20:38.53 | keldwud | weird |
| 20:39.04 | keldwud | although sounds better than Franklin Covey, I think |
| 20:39.09 | keldwud | and WAY better than sprint mobile |
| 20:39.12 | keldwud | or whatever it was |
| 20:39.32 | jnbek | tries to remember what he was thinking with that awful haircut.... |
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| 20:51.18 | youtah | http://www.edisproduction.de/2014/03/04/short-animation-of-what-happens-in-a-mans-mind-on-a-first-date/ |
| 20:56.14 | youtah | Anyone heard of the blogging platform "Ghost"? |
| 21:01.41 | keldwud | is it the next big thing in social media? ;) |
| 21:05.29 | youtah | I dunno |
| 21:05.31 | youtah | but it looks clean |
| 21:10.14 | youtah | House approved prison relocation backing. 70-3 vote. |
| 21:10.51 | youtah | Convention Hotel bill passed house too. |
| 21:11.10 | youtah | Bizarre to think it will only have 1000 rooms |
| 21:11.14 | youtah | Seems so few, yet so many |
| 21:13.43 | shalkie | The Hotel or the Prison (Involuntary Hotel?) |
| 21:13.45 | shalkie | ? |
| 21:14.30 | youtah | lol, th ehotel |
| 21:14.38 | youtah | The voluntary hotel |
| 21:15.05 | youtah | The hotel where you pay, not get paid (even if it's just cents on the dollar) |
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| 21:28.29 | shalkie | I suddenly have a revitilization thought for Detroit. |
| 21:31.20 | keldwud | is this bad form? touch filename && vim filename |
| 21:31.47 | youtah | I just ... |
| 21:31.50 | youtah | vim newfilename |
| 21:33.28 | youtah | There's nothing "wrong" per say with doing it that way, it's just that vim already supports and has the first argument as the newfilename functionality built in. |
| 21:33.42 | shalkie | keldwud: More work then necessary. Though I suppose it will tell you if you can write to the file in advance. |
| 21:34.13 | youtah | "touch filename && vim filename" does help teach the interactions (piping) commands together and order of execution though. |
| 21:34.21 | keldwud | well, the vim filename will be replaced with something else later |
| 21:34.28 | keldwud | right now I'm just adding it by hand |
| 21:34.37 | keldwud | but later I will be adding the contents via another method |
| 21:35.02 | keldwud | by concatenating the contents of a central source |
| 21:35.10 | youtah | Does the file have to exist before than? |
| 21:35.14 | youtah | for some reason? |
| 21:35.24 | youtah | hand* |
| 21:35.25 | shalkie | If your doing redirections, it will create the file if it doesn't already exist. |
| 21:35.30 | keldwud | not that I know of, I'm just dotting my is and crossing my ts |
| 21:35.39 | shalkie | And frankly test or [ is a better way of testing. |
| 21:35.41 | keldwud | but yeah, I could just > |
| 21:35.44 | keldwud | or < |
| 21:35.48 | shalkie | >> |
| 21:35.54 | keldwud | >> appends? |
| 21:35.56 | youtah | I prefer dotting my t's and crossing my i's personally |
| 21:35.56 | keldwud | or > appends |
| 21:35.59 | youtah | yes |
| 21:36.03 | youtah | > writes new |
| 21:36.04 | shalkie | Yeah, >> appends. > will blank. |
| 21:36.09 | keldwud | okay yeah, I don't want to append |
| 21:36.15 | keldwud | that's why > |
| 21:36.32 | keldwud | shalkie: what do you mean by test or [? |
| 21:36.36 | keldwud | I'm not familiar with those two |
| 21:36.46 | youtah | echo "NACHOS ARE HOLY CRAPOLA AWESOME" > thisisyournewfile.txt |
| 21:36.52 | youtah | then try running |
| 21:36.56 | keldwud | damnit, you always make me want to eat nachos |
| 21:36.59 | keldwud | and I'm dieting |
| 21:37.01 | joshh | me too |
| 21:37.06 | youtah | echo "Didn't you hear me? NACHOS ARE HOLY CRAPOLA AWESOME" >> thisisyournewfile.txt |
| 21:37.16 | youtah | lol |
| 21:37.35 | joshh | and i rode past a brand new nacho place/taqueria on my train today and thought of youtah |
| 21:37.36 | keldwud | I already know that >> will append, I was just unsure when shalkie then recommended it for my purposes |
| 21:37.58 | youtah | lol, yes! joshh |
| 21:38.52 | joshh | there is a place here with the most amazing carne asada nachos i've had or could ever even imagine |
| 21:40.15 | keldwud | omg |
| 21:40.21 | keldwud | now I want super nachos from betos |
| 21:40.27 | keldwud | or whatever it's callled these days |
| 21:40.41 | keldwud | goes to get lunch from subway before he caves |
| 21:40.53 | keldwud | i.e. 6 inch roasted chicken with no sauces |
| 21:41.07 | youtah | Be strong keldwud ... stick with your diet! |
| 21:41.13 | keldwud | I am :) |
| 21:41.22 | keldwud | I've already lost 3 pounds in the last week and a half |
| 21:41.41 | youtah | I lost 22lbs in a month by cutting out Soda |
| 21:41.50 | keldwud | yeah I don't drink soda so it's harder for me |
| 21:41.56 | youtah | yeah |
| 21:41.58 | keldwud | and the weight will come off more slowly |
| 21:42.08 | keldwud | and I don't eat dips or condiments anyway |
| 21:42.18 | Tene | keldwud: you could start drinking soda, and then stop |
| 21:42.23 | shalkie | keldwud: test, also known as [, is used to do testing on the command line. [ -f /path/to/file ] to see if a file exists, as an example. It can check things such as the type and writeability. man test or man bash for the details. |
| 21:42.28 | keldwud | insanitywolf.jpg from Tene :) |
| 21:42.40 | keldwud | shalkie: thank you for that |
| 21:42.56 | youtah | Love your thinking outside of the box Tene |
| 21:43.02 | keldwud | yeah I just wanted some form of built-in error checking because I was planning on scripting this later |
| 21:43.35 | youtah | keldwud, you using bash? |
| 21:43.38 | keldwud | yeah |
| 21:43.44 | youtah | keldwud, you know about -v and -o |
| 21:43.46 | Tene | A friend of mine keeps this around for these situations: http://tinyurl.com/tene-helpful |
| 21:43.48 | keldwud | verbose? |
| 21:43.52 | youtah | (v is the same as o) |
| 21:43.53 | youtah | yeah |
| 21:43.56 | youtah | and then use -x |
| 21:44.11 | keldwud | Tene: that's awesome |
| 21:44.27 | keldwud | and very zen :) |
| 21:44.40 | youtah | So at the beginning of your #!/bin/bash use -vx |
| 21:44.43 | youtah | so..... |
| 21:44.51 | youtah | #!/bin/bash -vx |
| 21:45.00 | youtah | test it out and see if that's what you're looking for |
| 21:45.13 | youtah | it can be helpful at time when trying to step through a bash scipt |
| 21:45.15 | youtah | script |
| 21:45.18 | keldwud | oh hey |
| 21:45.20 | youtah | not entirely sure that's what you're looking for |
| 21:45.25 | keldwud | I should have that in all of my bash scripts as a noob |
| 21:45.28 | keldwud | no, that helps |
| 21:45.38 | youtah | np |
| 21:45.38 | keldwud | I mean, I'll remove the -xv in the end |
| 21:45.45 | youtah | right |
| 21:45.47 | keldwud | but definitely helpful for the now |
| 21:45.53 | youtah | if it gets to verbose, try just -x |
| 21:45.59 | youtah | too* |
| 21:48.07 | fugue88 | likes "set -e" in bash scripts too |
| 21:48.16 | shalkie | Yeah, the -x is pretty awesome. |
| 21:49.34 | youtah | keldwud, what shalkie said.... -e will exit when it hits the first error |
| 21:50.13 | shalkie | Tene: Nice! :-) |
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| 21:50.50 | shalkie | keldwud: If you haven't checked it out, go look at the bash scripting guide on linux.die.net |
| 21:51.25 | youtah | http://tldp.org/ is pretty good too |
| 21:52.01 | youtah | http://tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/ << over view of the Advanced BASH |
| 21:52.02 | jnbek | youtah: yes it is |
| 21:53.09 | shalkie | I am 99% positive it is the same guide. |
| 21:53.35 | shalkie | Nope, LDP is more current. |
| 21:53.40 | shalkie | you++ |
| 21:53.43 | shalkie | youtah++ |
| 21:54.11 | jnbek | youtah 4LYF |
| 21:54.12 | jnbek | :D |
| 21:56.37 | youtah | just got back, lol |
| 21:56.47 | youtah | Looks like I am getting a fan club? Not again! |
| 21:57.02 | youtah | tries to be helpful in here every once in a while. |
| 21:59.31 | youtah | Again? http://www.ksl.com/?sid=28947065&nid=157&fm=home_page&s_cid=featured-3 |
| 22:09.34 | youtah | This is so gratifying... http://i.imgur.com/WQO486Y.gif |
| 22:20.17 | eightyeight | that was a fun episode |
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| 22:44.04 | keldwud | hmm.. |
| 22:44.15 | keldwud | need to set my "sincedb_dir or home" environment? |
| 23:17.22 | Migs | http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2014/03/05/good-news-for-parents-see-what-a-judge-told-a-spoiled-teen-who-moved-out-and-then-sued-them-for-college-tuition/ |
| 23:22.43 | eightyeight | rich kids... |
| 23:22.50 | eightyeight | spoiled brats |
| 23:23.34 | jnbek | ^^ |
| 23:25.19 | keldwud | this is so beautiful: http://pastie.org/8878200 |
| 23:28.31 | eightyeight | ok... |
| 23:29.43 | keldwud | you don't find that beautiful? |
| 23:29.47 | keldwud | http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc3164 |
| 23:30.59 | eightyeight | no. not really. |
| 23:34.27 | keldwud | well then what kind of geek are you? |
| 23:34.29 | keldwud | pshhh |
| 23:34.44 | keldwud | ohshi- gymtime |
| 23:34.45 | keldwud | later |
| 23:34.49 | eightyeight | apparently not a beautiful one |
