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| 00:02.50 | klys | ~slashdot |
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| 14:59.16 | jima | jlp_znc: hey, did your wife have her surgery? |
| 15:02.25 | jima | err, today, huh. |
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| 16:25.00 | youtah | jima, yeah jlp_znc's wife is having the surgery today. |
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| 16:36.17 | jxqz | ~napoleon youtah |
| 16:36.18 | infobot | ACTION hunts woverines in Alaska with youtah's cousins |
| 16:37.11 | Migs | http://imgur.com/JcwUkLd |
| 16:41.03 | jxqz | ~napoleon Migs |
| 16:41.03 | infobot | ACTION throws Migs's favorite Masters of the Universe action figure out the bus window attached to a fishing line |
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| 16:49.16 | cjcothran | omg I fixed something today and it only took me an hour :) |
| 16:49.36 | cjcothran | I feel like I'm actually starting to be comfortable and knowledgeable in *nix |
| 16:49.40 | cjcothran | pats himself on the back |
| 16:50.04 | cjcothran | I didn't have to look up much because I remembered most of it from memory |
| 16:52.46 | cjcothran | I have a serious case of imposter syndrome at times because there's so much I *don't* know |
| 16:53.19 | jima | i remember being like that with linux |
| 16:53.22 | jima | kind of |
| 16:53.29 | jima | it's been a while :-\ |
| 16:53.49 | jima | i also remember being like that with windows...vividly. |
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| 16:54.47 | youtah | That is fantastic Migs |
| 16:55.27 | cjcothran | what's the other word for defunct / legacy? |
| 16:55.50 | jima | deprecated? |
| 16:55.53 | cjcothran | thank you :) |
| 16:55.57 | cjcothran | that's the one I was looking for |
| 16:56.02 | cjcothran | ~jima++ |
| 17:01.10 | jima | no problem, it's in a bunch of rfcs and everything :-) |
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| 17:08.18 | cjcothran | it's such a useful term |
| 17:09.48 | Migs | http://happyplace.someecards.com/29270/washed-out-hipsters-warn-college-kids-about-the-dangers-of-liberal-arts |
| 17:11.38 | cjcothran | haha, just from the title alone |
| 17:11.45 | cjcothran | but it looks like a video |
| 17:11.51 | cjcothran | videos are too distracting |
| 17:11.56 | cjcothran | says while chatting on irc |
| 17:21.21 | youtah | sprinkles nachos in jlp_znc's old cubical just as the Mayan's did of old |
| 17:25.23 | cjcothran | s/cubical/cubicle |
| 17:25.47 | cjcothran | unless you meant "in a shape representing that of a cube" |
| 17:25.51 | cjcothran | ;) |
| 17:32.56 | cjcothran | this is keld, btw |
| 17:33.12 | cjcothran | I just didn't want to use my old nick while at $newjob |
| 17:33.23 | cjcothran | which I got |
| 17:33.39 | cjcothran | at double my last salary and full benefits |
| 17:33.48 | cjcothran | holds his hand up for hifives |
| 17:35.41 | jima | oh, ok |
| 17:35.45 | jima | wtg |
| 17:40.04 | cjcothran | just wanted to get settled in before I started braggin |
| 17:42.33 | cjcothran | I'm going to design and deploy my first syslog server |
| 17:42.35 | cjcothran | any tips or advice before I dive into documentation? |
| 17:43.11 | goozbach | ^5 |
| 17:43.15 | jima | syslog or rsyslog? |
| 17:43.33 | goozbach | cjcothran: you may want to look at logstash or greylog2 |
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| 17:45.26 | cjcothran | jima: diff? |
| 17:45.31 | cjcothran | goozbach: thank you |
| 17:46.03 | jima | deprecation ;-) |
| 17:46.11 | jima | i'm exaggerating a bit...i think. |
| 17:47.28 | cjcothran | google suggests this for me: syslog vs rsyslog vs syslog-ng |
| 17:52.08 | jima | iirc rsyslog allows for tcp and some better filtering/routing of message types |
| 17:52.15 | jima | other than that, dunno |
| 17:58.12 | shalkie | rsyslog is a modular design and can be extended. It has support for UDP/TCP, encryption, message filtering, message formating and even writing directly to a SQL database. |
| 17:58.30 | youtah | <cjcothran> s/cubical/cubicle << yes, that |
| 17:59.04 | shalkie | Fedora has made some noise about going with journald<?> the default journaling system for systemd in place of rsyslog. |
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| 18:03.40 | cjcothran | I'm hearing a bit about ES/Logstash/Kibana. Anybody here have experience with any of those? |
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| 18:47.43 | jlp_znc | at the hospital... got irc on my phone now |
| 18:48.21 | jlp_znc | congrats cjcothran |
| 18:48.29 | goozbach | weeboot! |
| 18:48.57 | jlp_znc | i'm currently unemployed... but hopefully not for long |
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| 18:53.40 | jima | hopefully not, no |
| 18:53.47 | jima | jlp_znc: how's the wife doing? |
| 18:54.19 | cjcothran | oh there's a thing tomorrow |
| 18:54.23 | cjcothran | I hope to go to that |
| 18:54.29 | jima | a thing |
| 18:54.30 | cjcothran | herlo's meetup |
| 18:54.33 | cjcothran | for python |
| 18:54.42 | cjcothran | it appears to be on my campus, actually |
| 18:55.06 | cjcothran | ~seen herlo |
| 18:55.09 | infobot | herlo <~clints@fedora/herlo> was last seen on IRC in channel #uphpu, 1d 55m ago, saying: 'no problem. sorry it's such a vague bit of info. I recall it taking me a while to figure out the exact settings I wanted and tweaking it just right.'. |
| 18:56.00 | jlp_znc | we are in prep/preop right now. waiting for labs, i guess. anesthesiologist and surgeon haven't been in yet. |
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| 19:20.40 | youtah | Best wishes jlp_znc |
| 19:24.27 | youtah | I was looking at logstash too cjcothran... looked cool |
| 19:25.01 | cjcothran | yeah, that's what some other people are saying |
| 19:25.13 | jima | jlp_znc: whee, the waiting game. don't worry, i'll be in that situation in...uhm...two weeks. |
| 19:25.26 | cjcothran | I'll know more after I finish reading this chapter on sylog and log files |
| 19:25.56 | cjcothran | oh you said you couldn't make it to the meetup tomorrow, didn't you, youtah |
| 19:26.51 | goozbach | I'd be tempted to use graylog over logstash as I want to integrate GELF |
| 19:26.53 | goozbach | http://graylog2.org/#home |
| 19:27.11 | youtah | cjcothran, yeah, this week is horrible for me. |
| 19:35.19 | youtah | Good news! HB60 might be dead..... |
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| 19:40.15 | jlp_znc | thanks, jima. good luck to your wife as well. |
| 19:41.23 | jlp_znc | nurse is about to put in an IV. then we'll probably head upstairs. |
| 19:42.16 | jlp_znc | thanks, youtah, also. how is the feeling around the office? |
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| 20:11.27 | jxqz | youtah: is that the 'no more fiber intarwebs for you' bill? |
| 20:12.22 | jima | jxqz: yes |
| 20:12.32 | jxqz | nice |
| 20:12.57 | jxqz | I guess the qworst+cabal lobby isn't as strong as it thought it was |
| 20:15.02 | RyanE | thank heavens. Not that I have any likelihood to get fiber up in Highland... :| |
| 20:15.38 | jima | regardless of whether it benefits or harms us, it's just bad politics. |
| 20:17.12 | jima | were any non-member cities actually affected by utopia coming through on their way to a paying customer? |
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| 21:21.54 | youtah | jlp_znc, it's very very quiet. |
| 21:22.20 | youtah | Just got back from the back doctor. X-rays looked great. No spinal damage and the discs look great. |
| 21:22.30 | fozzmoo | youtah: What did you do? |
| 21:22.35 | jlp_znc | like, scary quiet? |
| 21:25.09 | youtah | confused and unsettled quiet. |
| 21:25.24 | youtah | fozzmoo, I hurt my back Monday morning |
| 21:26.35 | fozzmoo | doing? |
| 21:26.36 | goozbach | my wife got a blendtec about three weeks ago |
| 21:26.42 | goozbach | I majorily approve |
| 21:26.49 | goozbach | smoothies as far as the eye can see! |
| 21:27.07 | goozbach | never thought I'd say this but the smootie with celery and kale is tre yummy! |
| 21:29.40 | fozzmoo | youtah? |
| 21:30.29 | jlp_znc | he helped his neighbor move several thousand pounds of furniture |
| 21:33.31 | levi | Smoothies with nasty stuff are good as long as the nasty stuff is not in there in sufficient quantity and the good stuff is suitably overwhelming. |
| 21:34.22 | romanovic | people make veggie smoothies with blendtec? |
| 21:34.36 | romanovic | saw a video on the interweb, assumed blendtecs were for people who like iphone/ipad smoothies |
| 21:34.46 | levi | Heh. |
| 21:34.53 | jlp_znc | he he |
| 21:35.17 | levi | I wonder how much better Blendtec and VitaMix really are than, say, the Ninja blenders. |
| 21:35.28 | jlp_znc | man, this irc client eats my battery for breakfast |
| 21:35.42 | romanovic | jlp_znc: which client do you use? |
| 21:35.50 | jlp_znc | andchat |
| 21:36.08 | jlp_znc | android client |
| 21:36.31 | jlp_znc | it is very good, but is a battery muncher. |
| 21:36.34 | levi | Does it use a bouncer service? |
| 21:36.52 | romanovic | ah. yeah i use quasseldroid, and it used to shred my battery |
| 21:37.03 | romanovic | got a new android, and for some reason its not so bad anymore |
| 21:37.05 | jlp_znc | not sure how much munching is the client and how much is keeping wifi on |
| 21:37.26 | youtah | fozzmoo, what jlp_znc said. I helped move furniture for someone that was moving in, during the rain storm. And then the next day I bent over to put a drawer into a dresser and KA-PLOW! |
| 21:38.03 | romanovic | but since quassel comes with a headless core i run on my server, i disconnect as needed from my android and the core persists my irc state |
| 21:38.40 | goozbach | levi: night and day |
| 21:38.47 | goozbach | the neigbhor has a ninja |
| 21:39.04 | goozbach | doesn't get things broken down |
| 21:39.15 | levi | We have an ancient, secondhand VitaMix. |
| 21:39.18 | goozbach | nijna smoothins are grainy and seperate quickly |
| 21:39.29 | goozbach | vitimix and blendtec are worlds apart |
| 21:39.41 | levi | Makes great smoothies, but we just don't use it that much. |
| 21:41.42 | youtah | puts jlp_znc's old desk into a blendtec.... |
| 21:42.19 | youtah | throws in some bacon and nachos too |
| 21:42.30 | levi | BTW, Zathura is the best document reading program ever. |
| 21:51.24 | fozzmoo | levi: My kids watched that movie during our drive to St. George this last weekend |
| 21:53.31 | levi | The movie probably doesn't display pdfs, djvus, postscript, and have a minimal keyboard-friendly interface though. |
| 21:54.28 | fozzmoo | :) |
| 21:57.32 | jlp_znc | romanovic: i use znc running in my linode for the same reason. |
| 21:58.22 | jlp_znc | moving up to the surgery waiting area now. hopefully everything goes smoothly. |
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| 22:51.52 | jxqz | eightyeight: so what is this systemd thing anyway? |
| 22:52.19 | levi | jxqz: New whiz-bang init process that is very controversial. |
| 22:52.57 | jxqz | probably those ubuntu dudes foisting it upon the rest of the world via freedesktop, etc. |
| 22:56.29 | eightyeight | yeah. it's full of political fail, on both accounts- debian and red hat |
| 22:59.57 | Tene | jxqz: it's the ubuntu dudes who are whining about it, actually. |
| 23:00.47 | eightyeight | i have plenty in my twitter and g+ feed on every side of the isle whining about it |
| 23:01.22 | eightyeight | IE: a red hat employee whining about debian not switching. a debian poster claiming lennart is the devil. |
| 23:01.29 | eightyeight | and everything in between |
| 23:01.32 | eightyeight | it's hilarious |
| 23:05.21 | Tene | eightyeight: Mostly it's the ubuntu folk whining about systemd, and the red hat folk whining about everyone else whining. Certainly not entirely, just pointing out that jxqz had it backwards. |
| 23:05.37 | eightyeight | i haven't seen any ubuntu people whining about it |
| 23:05.39 | eightyeight | only debian ones |
| 23:08.12 | Tene | jxqz: Ubuntu hasn't shown any interest at all in adopting systemd. They've developed their own init system, upstart, that systemd was started as an alternative to because of canonical's restrictive CLA. |
| 23:09.57 | levi | And also because Lennart didn't think Upstart was doing it right. |
| 23:12.30 | levi | All the whining about Lennart is hilarious, though. Popularity is such a random thing. |
| 23:13.00 | eightyeight | on the reverse, the cult of personality around him that exists at red hat is just as hilarious |
| 23:13.19 | eightyeight | i've been debating trying it out on my workstation though |
| 23:13.24 | eightyeight | seems interesting enough |
| 23:30.57 | fungus | I really like Upstart, it's simple and works well. |
| 23:31.26 | fungus | haven't tried systemd, but looks interesting, though a bit large and complicated. |
| 23:35.25 | levi | eightyeight: No more hilarious than the cult of personality around Linus. |
| 23:36.33 | eightyeight | indeed |
| 23:38.29 | jlp_znc | Those crazy wacky Ubuntu guys. |
| 23:38.56 | errstr | fungus++ |
| 23:40.31 | jlp_znc | Trying a different client for a bit. |
| 23:43.00 | jlp_znc | Foo |
| 23:44.30 | youtah | Looks like the protest in Ukraine is loosing it's umph http://www.ustream.tv/channel/euromajdan/pop-out |
| 23:45.35 | youtah | it's no longer live |
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| 23:49.08 | romanovic | I think this is because the protest has been going on for X+1 days, where X = number of days since someone last threatened to use a nuclear device. North Korea understands this. When people stop paying attention, the rocket tests begin again. |
| 23:49.59 | romanovic | sorry, i guess that should be X = number of days you get air time without threatening to use a nuclear device |
| 23:50.53 | jlp_znc | Nuke the terrorists. There, that should keep things going for a while. |