| 00:00.12 | fozzmoo | Succumbed to his (gunshot) injuries, I assume. |
| 00:00.22 | jima | oh, ok |
| 00:00.37 | jima | tragic. i hope the officer(s) who shot them aren't too troubled by it. |
| 00:00.43 | fozzmoo | indeed. |
| 00:01.02 | fozzmoo | Considering he was shooting at them, I wouldn't be too troubled by it. |
| 00:01.04 | dumby_PC | eh, he killed a cop and nearly another. I'd hope there's not much remorse |
| 00:01.26 | fungus | jima, perhaps. Depends on how fun it is. |
| 00:01.51 | fungus | But using the term "suckers" makes me think no. |
| 00:01.56 | dumby_PC | No one else was injured subduing him as far as I know |
| 00:02.29 | jima | dumby_PC: i mean psychologically. |
| 00:02.38 | jima | even if they had it coming, it can be damaging. |
| 00:02.43 | fozzmoo | And the two guys that toppled the hoodoo in Goblin Valley have been charged with felony criminal mischief |
| 00:03.08 | levi | What kind of a moron do you have to be to topple a hoodoo? |
| 00:03.22 | fozzmoo | It was dumb, but I don't think it should have been a felony charge. |
| 00:03.31 | jlp_znc | just your basic run of the mill moron |
| 00:03.52 | levi | Felony may be a bit harsh, yeah. |
| 00:03.56 | dumby_PC | the biggest thing about that is they were Boy Scout leaders |
| 00:04.11 | jima | the feds probably want to make an example out of them |
| 00:04.17 | dumby_PC | to me, at least |
| 00:04.28 | jlp_znc | they'll probably plea bargain down to a misdemeanor |
| 00:04.30 | fozzmoo | Not anymore. :) |
| 00:04.32 | dumby_PC | if they're shaping our youth and going around disrespecting nature like that? screw 'em |
| 00:04.42 | fozzmoo | BSA doesn't want them anymore. |
| 00:05.03 | fozzmoo | they might as well be gay at this point. ;-) |
| 00:05.39 | dumby_PC | If they got the max sentence, that'd be harsh. But a decent fine and some prison time oughta do them well to think about how their actions may affect the community |
| 00:06.03 | keldwud | jima, I believe goozbach may have been looking. not sure if he's still looking. and I've a little bit of experience :) |
| 00:06.21 | jima | i'm not sure i have enough money for goozbach |
| 00:06.25 | keldwud | haha |
| 00:06.32 | keldwud | I hear I'm pretty cheap :) |
| 00:06.41 | jnbek | that's what she said |
| 00:06.44 | keldwud | lol |
| 00:06.50 | keldwud | gah, I forget how intense some of this game is |
| 00:06.53 | keldwud | would you kindle |
| 00:06.56 | keldwud | kindly |
| 00:06.58 | keldwud | now kill |
| 00:07.02 | yukaia-work | jima: it's a state park so I doubt that the feds are involved. |
| 00:07.05 | keldwud | a man chooses. a slave obeys. |
| 00:07.10 | keldwud | brutal. |
| 00:07.18 | jima | yukaia-work: oops, was thinking it was national. |
| 00:07.42 | jima | yukaia-work: s/feds/state/ |
| 00:08.06 | yukaia-work | haha, yeah, there's a lot of parks in utah. |
| 00:10.53 | ldav15_ | I knew one of the topplers through work. He was the chief IT guy. I woudn't characterize him as a moron, but then I didn't deal with him on a daily basis, so I really don't know. |
| 00:11.29 | levi | Well, some people are situational morons, I guess. |
| 00:11.35 | keldwud | the sad part about that is there are hundreds of drunk people that go there every year |
| 00:11.43 | keldwud | and not even the drunks topple it |
| 00:12.01 | ldav15_ | I think _everyone_ is a situational moron. |
| 00:12.11 | jlp_znc | it depends on the situation |
| 00:12.12 | levi | That's probably true. |
| 00:12.27 | levi | Not many people are the sort of situational moron that topples a hoodoo, though. |
| 00:12.35 | ldav15_ | That's kind of the "Dilbert" POV... |
| 00:13.16 | keldwud | it's true, you'd think that if it were a situational thing, people under the influence of alcohol would have knocked it over years ago |
| 00:13.33 | keldwud | people under the influence are much more susceptible to that type of thinking. this guy was sober |
| 00:13.44 | keldwud | maybe that was his problem ;) |
| 00:14.15 | keldwud | man, these little sisters never stop creeping me out |
| 00:14.33 | levi | I wonder if he truly thought he was removing a dangerous situation, or if that was just the sort of BS that one makes up for a trial defense. |
| 00:19.41 | ldav15_ | levi: It could be that they thought they were remoiving something dangerous. I guess that's what the trial or whatever will try and determine. |
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| 00:22.35 | levi | Well, of course it *could* be that he was telling the truth when he said it. |
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| 00:24.04 | jlp_znc | which no doubt is why he was laughing maniacally as per the video |
| 00:28.43 | ldav15_ | jlp_znc: My thoughts, exactly. The video looked a little "festive" for a removal of something "dangerous". |
| 00:29.12 | jima | yep. |
| 00:29.12 | jlp_znc | so the key take away here is never record yourself doing something that you would normally prefix with "here, hold my beer" |
| 00:29.27 | ldav15_ | jlp_znc: lol |
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| 01:15.42 | goozbach | levi et al: I figured it out |
| 01:16.07 | goozbach | there's not a function for config_error_file anymore |
| 01:49.59 | levi | goozbach: Right, it's a macro. |
| 01:55.48 | levi | I'm a bit confused as to how you got it to compile with the expectation that there would be a config_error_file function available. Do you have the .h for an old version or something? |
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| 02:21.28 | goozbach | it is a "working" example i found |
| 02:22.32 | goozbach | <PROTECTED> |
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| 02:26.49 | levi | Sure, but normally an example wouldn't compile. |
| 02:30.12 | levi | If you had the right #include directive, you wouldn't get a reference to a config_error_file symbol because the code would have been macro-transformed to something else. And if you didn't have the right #include directive, the compiler would at least issue a warning about config_error_file not being declared anywhere. |
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| 02:31.38 | levi | Although at times I guess things happen to look enough like the default function signature that you won't get an actual error. |
| 02:31.44 | levi | Stupid C. |
| 02:35.49 | goozbach | yeah, this is 100% non-understanding of C |
| 02:47.23 | levi | Well, if you would like help making your patch and you have some way of sharing the code with me, I will be happy to help. |
| 02:58.09 | goozbach | levi: thanks |
| 02:58.16 | goozbach | I'll be putting it in github I'm sure |
| 02:58.25 | goozbach | I'm patching plymouth |
| 02:58.40 | goozbach | right now the colors for the default text boot screen are hard coded |
| 02:59.17 | goozbach | I'm thinking it shouldn't be too hard to create a config file which is then used |
| 03:01.50 | goozbach | but the further I think on this, the .so that plymouth uses is embedded in the initrd... this may be more work than I thought |
| 03:17.53 | goozbach | all becomes clear, I'm using an *OLD* version of libconfig |
| 03:23.34 | levi | So you've got the header from an old version and you're trying to link with a new version? |
| 03:23.51 | levi | When your headers and binaries don't match, bad things happen. |
| 03:24.13 | goozbach | no, I've got the example from someone using the newer version and it didn't work on the older version |
| 03:24.33 | levi | goozbach: When you compile, does it give any warnings? |
| 03:24.51 | levi | If not, try again with -Wall and see if it warns you about the missing function. |
| 03:25.06 | goozbach | https://gist.github.com/goozbach/e0c45051d2eb74928329 |
| 03:25.10 | goozbach | it does |
| 03:25.20 | goozbach | of course a missing function will not show up |
| 03:25.27 | levi | That's the linker, not the compiler. |
| 03:25.32 | goozbach | ohh |
| 03:25.51 | levi | They're all coordinated by the gcc binary, so it's sometimes hard to tell. |
| 03:27.41 | goozbach | ldap.c: In function ‘main’: |
| 03:27.43 | goozbach | ldap.c:17: warning: implicit declaration of function ‘config_error_file’ |
| 03:27.45 | goozbach | ldap.c:19: warning: format ‘%s’ expects type ‘char *’, but argument 3 has type ‘int’ |
| 03:27.47 | goozbach | ldap.c:38: warning: format ‘%d’ expects type ‘int’, but argument 3 has type ‘long int’ |
| 03:27.49 | goozbach | /tmp/ccF9dSgN.o: In function `main': |
| 03:27.51 | goozbach | ldap.c:(.text+0x62): undefined reference to `config_error_file' |
| 03:27.53 | goozbach | collect2: ld returned 1 exit status |
| 03:27.58 | levi | Yup, the line 17 warning is the key. |
| 03:28.23 | goozbach | I'm gonna compile and insall the newer libconfig into /usr/local and see if that does it |
| 03:28.46 | levi | The other two are likely to bite you too. |
| 03:29.05 | levi | Ignore the compiler's warnings at your own peril. :) |
| 03:29.34 | goozbach | I know that much |
| 03:31.42 | goozbach | dingdingding |
| 03:31.50 | goozbach | when built against latest libconfig it works |
| 03:33.09 | goozbach | well, compiles, I need to staticlly link it I suppose |
| 03:41.54 | goozbach | yeah this yak is gonna stay hairy. |
| 03:42.01 | goozbach | I can easily patch the rpm |
| 03:42.08 | goozbach | switching colors |
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| 03:56.06 | levi | Heh. Well, glad you could get it working, anyway. |
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| 05:21.14 | jima | goozbach: keldwud was trying to throw you under the job bus, but that's right, you're in georgia, huh. |
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| 06:48.11 | ldav15_ | Boy Dalvik sure is picky about how shared libraries it loads are linked. |
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| 13:15.50 | goozbach | jima: yeah, and I've just accepted an offer :) |
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| 16:21.33 | fozzmoo | goozbach: Wha? |
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| 16:33.18 | jxqz | ldav15_: I tried linking the dalvik-cache dir on my phone from the internal tiny ssd to the external reservoir of space, but then strange errors started happening :( |
| 16:33.47 | jxqz | which is very annoying because that single dir is responsible for over 0.8 of the memory use of the internal storage |
| 16:34.23 | jxqz | ~nacho |
| 16:34.23 | infobot | Why can't we ever have just, like, a salad? |
| 17:08.32 | klys | ~slashdot |
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| 20:13.36 | jima | goozbach: hah, congrats |
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