| 00:02.05 | shalkie | tristanbob_h: I would wager that there is a group of publically funded people you can call that will come and remove him from the property for you if you don't want him there. Just a thought. |
| 00:02.59 | shalkie | They could take him to someplace warmer then your front porch at least. |
| 00:03.13 | shalkie | Or just get hime to wander on his own. |
| 00:05.17 | tristanbob_h | shalkie, If he passes out on my porch, I will call someone... not sure which public department is best (police, but not 911?) |
| 00:08.06 | shalkie | tristanbob_h: Yeah, non-emergency number for dispatch. Goes to the same center, but leaves 911 free for higher priority. |
| 00:08.52 | shalkie | Should be the same number for medical as police. |
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| 14:25.03 | Greagle | another week of gay marriage and inversion! woot woot |
| 15:12.11 | eightyeight | another week of same sex marriage? |
| 15:12.23 | eightyeight | the state has been issuing licenses to same sex couples again? |
| 15:13.38 | eightyeight | i'm not seeing that that's the case |
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| 15:13.41 | eightyeight | Greagle: can you clarify? |
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| 15:28.24 | jima | uh, yeah, i don't think that's been brought back |
| 15:28.41 | jima | which i'm sure is the only thing saving us from complete doom. |
| 15:28.55 | shalkie | eightyeight: I think Greagle was just offsetting a crapy bad thing with a really good thing. :-) |
| 15:33.51 | Greagle | don't take it too literally.. just.. welcome to a new week :) |
| 15:34.27 | Greagle | on an IT related note, we get to see news about another retailer being hacked.. kind of a bummer. |
| 15:34.43 | Greagle | Michaels.. |
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| 15:42.37 | jima | it's hard to tells puns to kleptomaniacs because they always take things, literally. |
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| 16:05.06 | opapo | are there places who will reuse old pentium 4 computers? |
| 16:10.43 | jlp_znc | opapo: perhaps very poor school districts, but I suspect a recycler would be more likely |
| 16:11.21 | jlp_znc | tristanbob: did you ever resolve your drunk guy issue? or is he snoozing on your front porch this morning? |
| 16:11.29 | jlp_znc | catches up on the weekend's irc events |
| 16:12.50 | jlp_znc | for future reference, the salt lake county number for non-emergency police dispatch is 801-840-4000. I've had to use it on occasion. |
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| 17:47.17 | shalkie | SLPD Dispatch actually uses 799-3000, but they can switch you between call centers. |
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| 17:49.41 | unum | ya I keep it saved in my phone |
| 17:50.34 | jlp_znc | I use the 840 one because they can route you to whomever you need to talk to, unified police, murray city, highway patrol, etc. |
| 17:50.48 | jlp_znc | I never know whose jurisdiction I'm in, so I find it very helpful :-) |
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| 18:07.28 | tristanbob | jlp_znc: he found his way somewhere else. thanks for the info. |
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| 19:11.34 | Migs | http://www.denvercountyfair.org/pot-pavilion/ |
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| 20:05.44 | youtah | jlp_znc, I need to save that number into my phone |
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| 20:10.08 | youtah | dremex_work, I have found seven spots to take photos of your new BRZ |
| 20:14.14 | dremex_work | sweet |
| 20:14.26 | dremex_work | Come on spring! |
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| 20:33.38 | youtah | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B-Wd-Q3F8KM cc: RegionSyx |
| 20:41.47 | youtah | I want a file, that only contains an md5 hash. That hash is also the hash to the file. |
| 20:42.14 | youtah | Go! |
| 20:46.21 | shalkie | Wow, that is an interesting idea. |
| 20:46.42 | jima | youtah: better get started, there are only 340,282,366,920,938,463,463,374,607,431,768,211,456 possibilities |
| 20:47.21 | youtah | jima how did you come to those? |
| 20:47.36 | jima | well, 32 characters of hex, right? |
| 20:47.46 | jima | 16^32 unless i miss my mark |
| 20:49.43 | jima | echo 16^32 | bc |
| 20:49.47 | jima | add commas |
| 20:50.06 | youtah | So there's got to be a logical way to approach this, without looping through every combination..... |
| 20:50.15 | jima | danged if i know. |
| 20:50.37 | jima | is not a cryptologist. |
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| 21:00.45 | eightyeight | thankfully, md5 is easy to break |
| 21:01.01 | eightyeight | http://www.mscs.dal.ca/~selinger/md5collision/ |
| 21:01.30 | fungus | youtah, http://paste2.org/ej9PtMg7 |
| 21:02.25 | eightyeight | heh |
| 21:02.40 | fungus | lol, if you have the time. |
| 21:02.48 | eightyeight | thread it |
| 21:02.58 | eightyeight | have 4 pids going |
| 21:03.27 | eightyeight | first doing 0-2^125, second doing 2^125-2^126, third doing 2^126-127 and last doing 2^127-2^128 |
| 21:03.56 | eightyeight | might as well divide and conquer if you're going that route |
| 21:04.02 | fungus | totally. |
| 21:04.20 | youtah | If only cloud computing existed... |
| 21:05.29 | bmurdock | maybe you should ask this guy for help: http://nbviewer.ipython.org/url/norvig.com/ipython/xkcd1313.ipynb |
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| 21:26.08 | youtah | https://scontent-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/t1/1555394_857603214269133_1822706492_n.jpg |
| 22:06.22 | ldav15 | youtah: I would hope that there is no such file that MD5 hashed to itself. |
| 22:07.04 | levi | ldav15: Finding hash-function quines is something that some people do. |
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| 22:17.45 | levi | Assuming that md5 distributes its inputs evenly over possible outputs, it's a bit more likely than not that md5 has at least one quine/fixed point. |
| 22:20.34 | youtah | Upon googling, lots of interesting reads. No one has posted anything yet |
| 22:21.26 | levi | I'm pretty sure I saw an example of a quine for some smaller hash function than md5, but I don't remember where. |
| 22:22.57 | jxqz | md5.5 |
| 22:28.02 | levi | Hmm, only thing I found was someone writing a program that found the Ruby implementation's hash function for the Integer class's fixed point through brute force. |
| 22:32.50 | levi | Anyway, some hash functions have easy-to-find fixed points based on their construction, but I am pretty sure md5 isn't constructed in a way that makes fixed points easy to find. |
| 22:34.22 | levi | The birthday paradox makes arbitrary hash collisions somewhat easier to find than fixed points, so chances of finding a fixed point for md5 are extremely slim. |
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| 22:40.33 | youtah | bmurdock.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=falGA-ewmr0&t=2m40s |
| 22:42.49 | jxqz | levi: just take the contour integral of the cayley graph and project it into the hausdorff measure of the 2-category |
| 22:48.53 | levi | jxqz: As if that would work. :P |
| 22:54.51 | bmurdock | youtah, does Russia have their own section of youtube yet? |
| 22:54.56 | bmurdock | full of insane videos |
| 22:55.00 | bmurdock | ? |
| 22:56.07 | jxqz | levi: all this c++ coding is driving me crazy |
| 22:56.21 | jxqz | basically boilerplate everything |
| 22:56.36 | youtah | bmurdock, proably |
| 22:56.38 | youtah | probably |
| 22:57.01 | levi | jxqz: Why don't you generate the boilerplate with template metaprogramming? :P |
| 22:57.35 | jxqz | because c++ templates are a hack |
| 22:57.59 | levi | C++ is a hack. So? |
| 22:58.04 | jxqz | well, not as bad as some of the meta-style hacks that are inherited from C |
| 22:58.18 | jxqz | like the entire notion of a preprocessor |
| 22:58.22 | jxqz | ugh |
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| 22:59.53 | bmurdock | youtah, if this was done in America the dudes would be wearing all kind of expensive climbing clothing and equipment. In Russia, dockers and and button up shirts. |
| 23:00.57 | youtah | the guy was wearing a freaking suit. |
| 23:00.59 | youtah | amazing |
| 23:03.52 | levi | jxqz: So, link the lua interpreter into your binary and code stuff in lua instead. It's small enough that no one will notice! ;) |
| 23:05.18 | jxqz | sure |
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| 23:09.53 | RyanE | levi: Amen, Brother! |
| 23:10.00 | RyanE | I was about to suggest the same... :) |
| 23:15.51 | shalkie | :-( That spamtastic email was only 3 hours old, and already someone has taken down the site. Now hows am I suppose to buy that fancy pill from europe? |
| 23:17.14 | jlp_znc | shalkie: just wait a couple of hours... you'll get another e-mail with a whole brand new site you can go to! |
| 23:17.34 | shalkie | Oh goodie! |
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