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| 00:37.08 | youtah | I'm screwed http://xkcd.com/838/ |
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| 00:51.22 | fozzmoo | youtah: heh. |
| 00:51.28 | fozzmoo | 'Tis the season |
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| 01:04.22 | shalkie | youtah: If you get any coal it appears that I might need it for heating purposes. Feel free to share the wealth with me. :-) |
| 01:06.32 | youtah | sounds good shalkie |
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| 01:18.23 | klys | what do you have that uses coal |
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| 02:05.42 | shalkie | klys: Fireplace. |
| 02:07.04 | klys | oh. there seem to be better ways to keep warm these days, pellets, gas... |
| 02:07.33 | shalkie | Yeah, but if youtah is just gonna get some coal for free... :-) |
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| 02:07.55 | klys | what kind of coal do you want |
| 02:12.03 | shalkie | Anthricite? |
| 02:13.01 | klys | sounds good |
| 02:13.21 | shalkie | klys : I don't have a pressing need at the moment. However I am doing some house shopping and one of the places I really like is primarily heated through a wood fireplace. |
| 02:15.07 | shalkie | It looked pretty well constructed and I could probably do coal in it with out a problem. |
| 02:15.13 | klys | if you lived out in the country you could just drive down a dirt road and pick up wood. |
| 02:16.26 | shalkie | Yeah. Actually I am considering changing the system to propane. I hear that is expensive though. |
| 02:17.51 | goozbach | depends on where you live |
| 02:19.19 | shalkie | The lot I am loking at comes with an acre of land. I could do some sort of geothermal heat exchange. |
| 02:19.26 | shalkie | s/loking/looking/ |
| 02:19.50 | shalkie | Too late in the season to do that now though. |
| 03:08.36 | levi | Whee, I have a FPGA dev board now. |
| 03:12.34 | klys | "flat pin grid array" |
| 03:13.23 | levi | "field programmable gate array" |
| 03:13.59 | klys | er, is it erasable |
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| 03:18.13 | toocanX | ~karma comcast-- |
| 03:18.13 | infobot | comcast-- has karma of -1 |
| 03:19.06 | goozbach | als |
| 03:23.11 | levi | klys: It's like a reconfigurable integrated circuit. A bunch of logic gates in a switchable matrix, so you load the gate configuration in when you power up and it becomes whatever logic you want. |
| 03:23.47 | klys | I understand, but does it clear back out when you cycle power |
| 03:24.21 | klys | I also have a board with something like that on it. no logic probe though. |
| 03:35.15 | levi | Yeah, though in designs you usually have a little eeprom that it loads the logic bytestream from at power-on. |
| 03:39.11 | klys | the only similar thing I can think of is /dev/microcode. |
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| 03:46.31 | klys | hi supaplex |
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| 04:03.45 | toocanX | found out they are attempting to use hotspots out of a router I'm leasing |
| 04:03.51 | toocanX | that's .. not cool, at all.. |
| 04:05.22 | klys | so, your router is covering airspace in a public building...? |
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| 06:52.57 | levi | Gah, stupid Xilinx platform cable drivers. |
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| 08:32.20 | toocanX | heh |
| 08:32.34 | toocanX | sorry, I'll explain.. |
| 08:34.48 | toocanX | so we are leasing a xfinity router in our home, and the main issue is that we will have tons of spiking and even lose Internet service. The tech came by earlier, and explained that one of the features of the router is to provide a hotspot. The router is providing Internet wireless service for my home and for people that want access to it as a hotspot. I was also told that it is in the small |
| 08:34.48 | toocanX | print. |
| 08:36.03 | toocanX | the issue is consistent with this particular router, and he wants to deactivate the hotspot service to see if the spiking/Internet loss occurs anymore. |
| 08:36.20 | toocanX | I just want to buy a router that's not providing service for people that aren't paying |
| 08:36.23 | toocanX | it just doesn't make sense |
| 08:36.42 | toocanX | btw, I live in a neighborhood ;) this is residential |
| 08:40.23 | klys | sounds good to me |
| 08:45.44 | toocanX | haha |
| 08:45.52 | toocanX | what exactly? :) |
| 08:46.10 | toocanX | dude, I'll be your neighbor if you want to provide me with free wi-fi ^_^ |
| 08:53.33 | levi | Aha! I finally got the stupid JTAG thing to work. |
| 08:57.20 | jxqz | levi: you're supposed to use wireless technology for everything |
| 08:57.55 | jxqz | that will solve all your problems |
| 09:28.48 | klys | last time I came down the highway monitoring wifi networks there were over eighty within scope of my current location, and twelve at a rural gas station. |
| 09:29.25 | klys | more than half of them are unprotected. |
| 09:29.45 | klys | ~slashdot |
| 09:45.22 | toocanX | my neighbors are using passwords finally lol |
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| 15:59.55 | goozbach | RHEL7 BETA!!!! yaya! http://www.redhat.com/about/news/archive/2013/12/red-hat-announces-availability-of-red-hat-enterprise-linux-7-beta?utm_content=buffer0d15c&utm_source=buffer&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=Buffer |
| 16:00.44 | jsmith | goozbach: That is good news :-) |
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| 16:19.41 | manithree | I guess I'm going to have to buckle down and really learn systemd now. |
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| 17:59.23 | goozbach | my cobbler server is now offering RHEL-7-Beta-x86_64 :D |
| 17:59.57 | goozbach | or ooops will be once I add the rhel7 sig to the codebase |
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| 18:37.54 | shalkie | The very best part of the RHEL7 announcement is the in place upgrade. |
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| 19:21.35 | levi | I like systemd, but it does take a bit of work to get used to it. |
| 19:23.04 | jsmith | Yeah, but once you do get used to it, it's hard to go back |
| 19:24.00 | levi | I really want to migrate my embedded system I'm working on to it, to help with getting the startup sequencing right. |
| 19:27.37 | youtah | You're welcome http://imgur.com/a/akHsJ?gallery#0 |
| 19:28.06 | youtah | Does anyone know what this is from? http://i.imgur.com/A9qGcvX.jpg |
| 19:28.54 | jxqz | the intarwebz |
| 19:28.59 | youtah | lol |
| 19:29.12 | youtah | or this? http://i.imgur.com/seFChyx.jpg |
| 19:29.41 | youtah | I believe it is the same online comic series, but I dont know what it is called. |
| 19:35.41 | Migs | that's from Modern Warfare |
| 19:36.25 | youtah | goes to show how often I play video games |
| 19:36.41 | Migs | I never play video games, and I STILL knew that |
| 19:36.48 | youtah | I love this one http://i.imgur.com/rwht8H1.jpg |
| 19:38.03 | youtah | You get the original? |
| 19:38.10 | Migs | no |
| 19:38.11 | youtah | seen/know of the original? |
| 19:38.22 | youtah | It's from a painting called Nighthawks |
| 19:38.38 | youtah | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nighthawks |
| 19:40.48 | Migs | never heard of it |
| 19:41.12 | Migs | still don't understand what's going on in it |
| 19:41.21 | youtah | popular 1940's painting |
| 19:41.23 | youtah | read the article |
| 19:41.24 | Migs | why's the bear standing up like that, and why's the window broken? |
| 19:41.35 | youtah | that's subject to your own interpretation |
| 19:41.37 | Migs | TL;DR |
| 19:42.09 | jsmith | youtah: I've actually seen that painting in real life :-) |
| 19:42.20 | youtah | jsmith, it's one of my favorites |
| 19:42.25 | youtah | the first time I saw it, I hated it, |
| 19:42.40 | youtah | and then it ticked me off, and then I grew to like it, and then I loved it |
| 19:44.13 | youtah | jsmith, did you like the polar bear rendition of it? |
| 19:45.22 | jsmith | youtah: Not nearly as much, no |
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| 19:46.13 | youtah | I enjoy the disruption of it |
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| 19:58.10 | romanovic | youtah: found that painting sitting on my last work computer, used it as my desktop bg for a long time. |
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| 19:59.54 | romanovic | I love to see that time period depicted in paintings and designs |
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| 20:02.22 | romanovic | polar bear version has that 'come at me bro' stance, maybe the man on the left looked at him sideways |
| 20:03.44 | Migs | as far as I'm concerned, there was no time period before I entered this world |
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| 20:23.35 | rsimpkins | Nothing like waiting on outlook to delete 30,000 e-mails. How hard can it be? *thirty minutes later* |
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| 20:35.51 | shalkie | http://verigames.com/FAQ |
| 20:36.01 | shalkie | Just gonna leave that there for ya... |
| 20:38.37 | ldav15_ | Hmm ... StormBound Update - Fix infinite tutorial loop |
| 20:39.04 | ldav15_ | Maybe they should run that through verigames to see if there's a problem |
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| 20:44.56 | youtah | exactly romanovic the "come at me bro" stance disrupts the feeling of photo perfectly |
| 21:08.29 | jxqz | my bg image: http://history.nasa.gov/ap08fj/14day4_orbits456.htm |
| 21:08.50 | jxqz | the BW earthrise on there |
| 21:09.00 | jxqz | first ever photo of earth from lunar orbit |
| 21:09.24 | jxqz | they were supposed to be photographing the lunar surface to find landing sites |
| 21:49.38 | eightyeight | anyone familiar with orgmode? |
| 22:05.49 | youtah | http://i.imgur.com/tyOqgGx.png |
| 22:14.42 | Jayce^ | last I recall in here levi and maybe sjansen were using it.. |
| 22:14.50 | Jayce^ | or at least had the most familiarity |
| 22:16.20 | levi | eightyeight: Orgmode is awesome |
| 22:20.31 | eightyeight | levi: yeah. i'm just learning in now |
| 22:20.31 | eightyeight | i finally starting picking up emacs yesterday |
| 22:20.31 | eightyeight | making some good progress |
| 22:20.32 | levi | It takes a while to get proficient, but it's easy to get to a state where it's pretty usable. |
| 22:20.32 | eightyeight | i'm having a hard time mapping a lot of the keybindings in my head |
| 22:20.32 | eightyeight | and 'yank' is defined differently in vim vs emacs |
| 22:20.54 | levi | Yeah, the kill/yank stuff is one of the most difficult bits when switching between them. |
| 22:21.13 | levi | But there's always evil mode. |
| 22:21.53 | levi | Have you tried out magit yet? |
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| 22:22.43 | eightyeight | no. so far, i've only played with easypg, gnus, and orgmode |
| 22:23.05 | eightyeight | right now, i'm learning spreadsheets in orgmode |
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| 22:26.26 | eightyeight | heh |
| 22:26.29 | eightyeight | emacs mode for git |
| 22:26.30 | eightyeight | nice |
| 22:29.26 | levi | It's pretty sweet, though I've only touched its surface so far. |
| 22:30.10 | levi | To aid in immersion, you might install erc as your irc client as well. ;) |
| 22:31.34 | levi | Also the various terminal/shell modes can be handy for a quick shell session. |
| 22:34.34 | levi | And if you have files distributed across a variety of computers, you should learn how to use tramp as well. |
| 22:34.39 | eightyeight | i don't think i'll switch quite yet to erc |
| 22:35.52 | hjp_beta | I've seen a bunch of docs on how to get gtalk working with bitlbee, but nothing on getting google hangout working. They are apparently two different services. Is hangout even an xmpp based service? |
| 22:35.54 | levi | Oh, one thing I'd highly recommend customizing early on is how emacs deals with its auto-backup files. They can be really handy, but having them litter your work directories is really annoying. I configure it to store them all in a directory within .emacs.d |
| 22:35.55 | eightyeight | due to my work load, it's going to take time for me to feel comfortable with emacs, but so far, i'm enjoying it |
| 22:36.17 | levi | hjp_beta: My understanding is that Hangout is moving away from xmpp. |
| 22:37.22 | eightyeight | hjp_beta: there does appear to be a hangouts API, so it may be possible to integrate hangouts into bitlbee for chat |
| 22:37.37 | eightyeight | but who knows what the future holds for that |
| 22:37.45 | hjp_beta | right |
| 22:38.23 | eightyeight | also, it appears that google is deprecating voice into hangouts, although you'll still be able to keep your voice number, and make/receive calls with it |
| 22:40.03 | levi | It's nice that XMPP is a standard protocol, but it's kind of a lame protocol, so I'm not really surprised they're switching. |
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| 22:41.39 | eightyeight | i haven't been able to find an XMPP server that can reliable support 50 or more simultaneous connections |
| 22:41.43 | levi | Although XMPP is lame, it is at least well-specified. IRC, on the other hand... yow. |
| 22:41.48 | eightyeight | s/reliable/reliably/ |
| 22:47.22 | hjp_beta | irc is "organic" :> |
| 22:51.26 | levi | There are two sets of RFCs for it. The first is a single document and is hilariously imprecise in many places. The second is a whole mess of documents that generally tighten up the old stuff, but also extend the original protocol with a bunch of things that turn out to not actually be widely implemented. |
| 23:20.13 | jxqz | goozbach, rsimpkins: what do I do on a centos system where epel can't be found? |
| 23:20.52 | jxqz | nm |
| 23:21.09 | jxqz | I thought epel was in the base repo |
| 23:37.29 | ldav15_ | EPEL isn't in the base repo. It just usually becomes that way ;-) |
| 23:40.43 | Tene | If the XMPP ecosystem had actually grown like SMTP did, I could see them continuing it, but XMPP has a lot of costs that are nice to drop. I can certainly see why they dropped it. For now, Hangouts still interoperates with xmpp clients for one-on-one chat, but not for group chats. |
| 23:41.09 | Tene | The hangouts API is still pretty limited, I believe, but I expect they'll fill it out enough eventually for third-party clients. |
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| 23:57.49 | levi | Group chats were part of the problem with XMPP. It had no real 'multicast' story. |
| 23:59.12 | levi | This was also a big problem for presence updates; some analysis done a while back showed that in some real XMPP systems, some huge percentage of the traffic in the system was actually status update messages due to the really inefficient way they propagate. |
