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| 00:57.27 | youtah | Dude! |
| 00:57.29 | youtah | Jayce^, |
| 00:57.33 | youtah | Destroid is coming to Utah |
| 00:57.36 | youtah | for NYE |
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| 02:19.53 | KingMichael | Hello |
| 02:28.40 | klys | hil how are you? |
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| 02:40.30 | KingMichael | klys i'm okay my GF of almost 3 years broke up with me today because I told her she had to go to work |
| 02:40.49 | KingMichael | is still in shock lol |
| 02:41.38 | klys | had you discussed this before with her, or does she claim you have |
| 02:41.45 | KingMichael | thats the reason honest to god i ..... i just don't get it |
| 02:41.57 | KingMichael | we have talked about it |
| 02:42.20 | KingMichael | ah shit i g2g be back in an hour or too most go to my sisters |
| 02:42.38 | klys | don't worry, I'll be okay. |
| 02:43.04 | KingMichael | I no but to brake up over that ............. i just don't get it |
| 02:43.18 | KingMichael | but i'm kinda happy i fill free once again |
| 02:43.23 | klys | you have defined the relationship. |
| 02:43.23 | KingMichael | k all be back |
| 02:43.30 | klys | tah-tah. |
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| 14:50.32 | jxqz | ~napoleon |
| 14:50.32 | infobot | Girls only like guys who have great skills: Nun-chuck skills, bow hunting skills, computer hacking skills. |
| 14:57.22 | jxqz | I decree that bugs will now be called moths |
| 14:57.31 | jxqz | debugging -> demothing, etc. |
| 15:10.51 | manithree | has the same birthday as Grace Hopper |
| 15:11.09 | manithree | well, 60 years apart, but the same day of the year |
| 15:12.33 | jxqz | ~convert 135.8 F to kelvin |
| 15:12.39 | jxqz | um |
| 15:15.49 | jxqz | 179.93 K |
| 15:15.52 | jxqz | yawn |
| 15:16.09 | jxqz | that's not even cold enough to distill nitrogen |
| 15:16.13 | jxqz | oxygen, maybe |
| 15:17.26 | jxqz | actually, oxygen freezing point is lower than nitro |
| 15:17.40 | jxqz | whatever |
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| 16:37.10 | ldav15 | Sounds like overkill to me http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hkDD03yeLnU |
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| 16:40.44 | programmerq | so, I'm going to be ramping up my efforts to find a new job (my location is closing and I don't want to move to colorado). Anyone have any opinions on the in-person drop-in to hand over my resume? |
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| 16:43.02 | programmerq | is it just silly? |
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| 16:58.03 | Jayce^ | for what level of job and in what area? |
| 16:58.47 | jsmith | programmerq: You gotta share more details if you want our help in finding you a soft landing... |
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| 17:00.24 | Migs | lol @ our filter: "Facebook.com blocked. Web site contains prohibited Friendship content." |
| 17:00.29 | programmerq | utah county, devops mid-to-senior (looking for $85k), and I want to start at the beginning of May (if possible) |
| 17:00.30 | Migs | FRIENDSHIP DENIED. |
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| 17:00.57 | Migs | programmerq: what languages do you know? |
| 17:01.20 | programmerq | Migs: python and ruby |
| 17:01.36 | programmerq | I've been doing python much longer, but more ruby in the last year. |
| 17:02.17 | programmerq | since my start date won't be for a while still, I haven't quite started blasting out my resume. |
| 17:04.46 | Migs | the nice thing about being a dev is you're never out of work for long |
| 17:05.03 | programmerq | I'm more of an ops (dare I say, devops) type of guy |
| 17:05.13 | Migs | I don't even know what that means |
| 17:05.13 | programmerq | so there are fewer opportunities for that as far as I can tell. |
| 17:06.12 | goozbach | programmerq: I see your problem... you're using the word 'devops'... *shudder* |
| 17:06.14 | goozbach | :) |
| 17:06.24 | goozbach | I'm an ops automation expert |
| 17:06.33 | goozbach | release engineer |
| 17:06.36 | goozbach | somethig like that |
| 17:06.51 | programmerq | goozbach: yeah, I'm not a fan of the word |
| 17:07.07 | programmerq | but I'm not sure what else to put on the resume for the automated tag cloud sniffers to see |
| 17:07.13 | goozbach | if you want to include that word use it as an ajective |
| 17:07.24 | goozbach | "I'm familiar with devops style tools...blatiblat |
| 17:07.32 | goozbach | tools and processes |
| 17:08.21 | goozbach | https://twitter.com/jgoldschrafe/status/398565457713577984 |
| 17:08.37 | Migs | ohhh |
| 17:08.46 | Migs | gotcha now |
| 17:09.41 | T4rku5 | so is programmerq a sysadmin? |
| 17:09.47 | programmerq | yeah |
| 17:09.57 | goozbach | when did creating a vagrant base box become so difficult |
| 17:10.00 | goozbach | ? |
| 17:10.15 | programmerq | oh yeah, I should put vagrant on my resume |
| 17:10.18 | programmerq | :/ |
| 17:12.14 | Migs | what's your LinkedIn url? |
| 17:17.20 | Jayce^ | our admin team is always looking for that skillset. and while we are a perl shop, we have a lot of python work on openstack as well |
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| 17:23.13 | youtah | Jayce^, did you see Destroid is coming to SLC? |
| 17:24.13 | Jayce^ | I did not. |
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| 17:30.55 | programmerq | Migs: I need to get on linkedin |
| 17:35.12 | programmerq | (doing that now) |
| 17:35.17 | programmerq | I've put it off long enough. :) |
| 17:35.24 | T4rku5 | we could do a linkedin follow party |
| 17:35.56 | youtah | They're coming NYE |
| 17:41.48 | jxqz | I thought the purpose of debootstrap is to install debian on another os |
| 17:42.01 | jxqz | but the only downloads it shows are for debian packages |
| 17:42.09 | jxqz | that's debian for you, I guess |
| 17:43.47 | levi | It's not for installing debian on another os. It's mostly for installing debian on a chroot inside debian. |
| 17:44.13 | levi | Or probably initially for creating the base images for new versions of the distro. |
| 17:45.23 | Jayce^ | youtah: I'll be out of town |
| 17:45.38 | youtah | Yeah, plus its V2 events hosting it |
| 17:45.43 | youtah | so there will be a lot of nakedness |
| 17:45.55 | goozbach | jxqz: I've seen debootstrap rpms... not sure where |
| 17:49.28 | jxqz | how do you get dpkg to not enforce failing on not finding dependencies? |
| 17:50.13 | T4rku5 | never heard of Destroid |
| 17:50.22 | T4rku5 | sounds like almost geeky |
| 17:50.32 | T4rku5 | DestROID |
| 17:50.35 | Jayce^ | youtah: link him up |
| 17:54.37 | fozzmoo | yum updates |
| 17:55.09 | jxqz | better than gross update |
| 17:58.47 | hjp_beta | http://i.imgur.com/Rm6bbyT.jpg |
| 17:58.49 | hjp_beta | Though I suppose that's more creepy than gross |
| 18:02.35 | youtah | T4rku5, coming up.... |
| 18:03.25 | youtah | T4rku5, this is my favorite "song" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gV45sktBMMQ |
| 18:03.53 | youtah | this will give you an idea as to what their shows are like http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wGPOxs3HfKw |
| 18:04.10 | youtah | that's the short version of the song btw |
| 18:08.56 | T4rku5 | thank you, I'll enjoy them later |
| 18:09.42 | youtah | np |
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| 18:27.09 | programmerq | Migs: http://www.linkedin.com/profile/view?id=309559939 |
| 18:27.17 | programmerq | I think that's the right link for me to give out? |
| 18:28.08 | programmerq | http://www.linkedin.com/pub/jeff-anderson/87/807/597 - or is it this |
| 18:28.48 | ldav15 | programmerq: definitely the second one |
| 18:29.27 | programmerq | yeah, found that one second. :) |
| 18:30.39 | Jayce^ | I see you used to work here before |
| 18:32.36 | programmerq | yup |
| 18:33.06 | programmerq | my last day was extremely close to endurance purchasing bluehost. |
| 18:34.51 | T4rku5 | programmerq I'd add you to my network, but linkedin won't let me |
| 18:35.08 | T4rku5 | oh, here it is |
| 18:36.26 | keldwud | TIL that Charlie Brown Christmas obliterated the aliuminum Christmas tree industre |
| 18:36.29 | keldwud | *industry |
| 18:36.32 | keldwud | on the same note: |
| 18:36.47 | keldwud | TIL that there used to exist an Aluminum Christmas tree industry. |
| 18:36.58 | keldwud | Aluminum Christmas trees |
| 18:37.02 | keldwud | TIL that those existed |
| 18:40.14 | programmerq | did charlie brown dislike aluminum christmas trees? I don't remember it well enough. |
| 18:41.48 | manithree | remembers having a foil tree as a kid |
| 18:42.36 | manithree | Although, I suspect common decency had as much to do with obliterating that industry as the CBCS |
| 18:43.11 | ldav15 | remembers aluminum Christmas trees too. Never had one. |
| 18:43.37 | Jayce^ | my grandma had one |
| 18:44.25 | ldav15 | The last one that I saw was at The Bayou. It was made of beer cans. |
| 18:46.17 | fozzmoo | went to the Festival Of Trees last week, for the first time, ever. |
| 18:46.47 | fozzmoo | I don't remember much except for the cinnamon rolls. I probably blacked out after that. |
| 18:50.10 | ldav15 | keldwud: IIRC, the big problem with aluminum Christmas trees was that people wanted to put standard Christmas tree lights on them, and would get zapped by the tree if the insulation on the lights was not good. |
| 18:51.25 | jxqz | happy festivus! |
| 18:54.20 | Migs | anyone want some free sheet music? https://www.dropbox.com/s/hpv5pzj5btw1xlj/Still%2C%20Still%2C%20Still.pdf |
| 18:54.23 | Migs | The first of hopefully many more |
| 18:55.00 | jxqz | Migs: http://imslp.org/ |
| 18:55.09 | Migs | my transcriber just barely finished it |
| 18:55.15 | Migs | oh nice |
| 18:55.44 | jxqz | no need for any more 'sheet music' :) |
| 18:56.22 | Migs | pffft... I still think it's awesome |
| 18:56.30 | Migs | I'm excited to see what he does with my other songs |
| 19:02.07 | keldwud | festival of trees? where's that at? |
| 19:02.49 | keldwud | ldav15: oh. I thought it was because charlie brown had a real christmas tree and talked about how christmas sucked because it was so manufactured |
| 19:03.12 | keldwud | and assumed that it had a cultural effect on america at the time :) |
| 19:04.54 | keldwud | they had illuminated color wheels to light the aluminum christmas trees :) |
| 19:05.11 | keldwud | now I want an aluminum christmas tree. just to be a rebel |
| 19:07.13 | programmerq | looks like amazon has some. |
| 19:07.29 | programmerq | the "genuine" ones are like $300+ |
| 19:08.41 | rsimpkins | http://inthralld.com/2012/12/15-fantastic-alternative-christmas-tree-ideas/ |
| 19:08.56 | rsimpkins | The one made of beer bottles is super-classy. |
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| 19:25.13 | jxqz | why is it every time I have to use yum I feel like I'm dealing with an annoying, tempermental, manic teenager? |
| 19:27.20 | rsimpkins | jxqz: Are you using it, or abusing it? |
| 19:27.29 | rsimpkins | What's harder than yum install <pkg> ? |
| 19:27.51 | jxqz | rsimpkins: how would you characterize 'yum install tmux'? |
| 19:28.11 | jxqz | and then getting 'nuh-uh-uh, you didn't say the magic word' |
| 19:28.54 | rsimpkins | I've not done it, but based on the list of two packages it wants to install I'd guess it will be painless. |
| 19:29.14 | goozbach | jxqz: you mean the auto-ask for any dependancies? |
| 19:29.27 | goozbach | IMNSHO that's the "proper" thing to do |
| 19:29.34 | goozbach | principle of least suprise |
| 19:29.40 | jxqz | requiring .i686 on every package name by default is about the stupidest thing I've seen all month |
| 19:30.17 | jxqz | rsimpkins: you're luckier than I, I see no tmux possibilites available :( |
| 19:30.27 | rsimpkins | jxqz: epel for CentOS. |
| 19:30.33 | goozbach | jxqz: enable epel |
| 19:31.15 | rsimpkins | The i686 thing is RH's fault, really. Not Yum's. RH made a whacky decision there, and we all get to live with the crazy consequences. |
| 19:31.51 | jxqz | well, at least I've got the yum defenders going :) |
| 19:32.25 | rsimpkins | jxqz: I'm not trying to defend it, just curious what pain points people have with it so I can better respond to people who need help in the future. |
| 19:32.58 | jxqz | rsimpkins: it's not aptitude, waa, waa |
| 19:33.16 | rsimpkins | jxqz: lol. Well, no. You're right. |
| 19:34.53 | rsimpkins | I'm sure someone out there has managed to rip out RPMs on a RH system and went to .debs, aptitude, etc. |
| 19:35.22 | rsimpkins | Though why you wouldn't just run Debian in that case escapes my understanding. |
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| 19:35.31 | jxqz | rsimpkins: work |
| 19:35.56 | jxqz | the things I do for money |
| 19:36.00 | rsimpkins | If you can't convince a business that aptitude is better for them... maybe it isn't. :) |
| 19:36.59 | jxqz | submits to the superiority of yum |
| 19:51.38 | fozzmoo | youtah: Fusion-IO's "Employment Opportunities" page sucketh max. |
| 19:51.45 | fozzmoo | ~fusion-io-- |
| 19:52.04 | jxqz | haha |
| 19:53.01 | youtah | fozzmoo, there's 25 on there righ tnow |
| 19:53.03 | youtah | right now |
| 19:53.09 | youtah | (regarding Utah) |
| 19:53.39 | youtah | and the list changes it seems on nearly an hourly basis |
| 19:53.46 | youtah | and that's not even showing all of the reqs |
| 19:54.06 | fozzmoo | Each job is a JS link. |
| 19:54.16 | fozzmoo | And it doesn't even load in the window properly (in FF) |
| 19:54.25 | fozzmoo | You have to scroll up after clicking the link to view the job description. |
| 19:54.54 | youtah | yeah it loads correctly for me, but the scrolling is annoying |
| 19:56.38 | fozzmoo | I would think they'd want each job to be a unique URL - so people can share links to specific jobs. I'll never understand sites that don't do that. |
| 19:57.05 | youtah | yeah, I actually think it's a plugin from Jobvite |
| 19:57.12 | fozzmoo | Instead, you have to share a link to the main list and tell someone "Find the one that says Blah Blah and click on it. Don't middle-click!" |
| 19:57.14 | youtah | but I have never peaked under the covers |
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| 19:59.34 | youtah | I just found out that my package is on the internet |
| 19:59.36 | youtah | https://twitter.com/rklau/status/410483281860128768/photo/1 |
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| 20:23.07 | jxqz | rsimpkins: I think the main bother (other than epel and .i686) is being asked so many times for a single install command |
| 20:23.31 | jxqz | whereas aptitude/apt-get will try to assemble everything all together with a one contact confirmation |
| 20:26.11 | jxqz | or maybe I'm remembering that wrong |
| 20:26.27 | jxqz | yum tends to be more verbose by default |
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| 20:58.37 | Migs | http://www.buzzfeed.com/ryanhatesthis/there-is-a-guy-on-vine-missing-his-arm-and-legs-who-pretends?bftw |
| 21:01.40 | manithree | youtah: I don't want to see your "package" even if it is on the Internet |
| 21:06.45 | youtah | manithree, how do you think I feel!!!?!?!?! |
| 21:06.56 | youtah | I'll bet your package(s) are on there too |
| 21:22.17 | programmerq | I am hoping jetbrains does another december sale like last year. |
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| 22:04.27 | klys | ~slashdot |
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