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| 03:01.03 | toocan | karma lol |
| 03:01.05 | toocan | ~karma comcast |
| 03:01.05 | infobot | comcast has karma of -223 |
| 03:09.46 | Supaplex | ~karma Supaplex |
| 03:09.46 | infobot | supaplex has karma of 1 |
| 03:09.52 | Supaplex | \o/ |
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| 03:33.05 | toocan | ~karma infobot |
| 03:33.05 | infobot | infobot has karma of 3 |
| 03:33.17 | toocan | oh snap bro |
| 03:33.22 | Supaplex | ~karma toocan |
| 03:33.22 | infobot | toocan has neutral karma |
| 03:33.27 | toocan | LOL |
| 03:33.30 | toocan | :D |
| 03:33.36 | Supaplex | ~infobot++ |
| 03:33.46 | Supaplex | ~karma infobot |
| 03:33.46 | infobot | infobot has karma of 4 |
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| 07:31.52 | toocan | good infobot |
| 07:31.56 | toocan | karma up |
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| 17:54.11 | levi | Yo. |
| 17:54.58 | goozbach | ~yo levi |
| 17:55.03 | goozbach | ~yoyo |
| 17:55.03 | infobot | ACTION has a cow |
| 17:55.11 | levi | Did everyone have a good T-day? |
| 18:02.01 | fungus | Yes I did have a good Thursday |
| 18:05.06 | T4rku5 | hehe |
| 18:05.26 | T4rku5 | levi -- yeah, it was good. Low stress (other than still looking for a job), and great time with family and great food |
| 18:05.28 | T4rku5 | you? |
| 18:35.32 | levi | I had a good one too. I made a great maple pecan pie and got to spend a lot of time sleeping and programming my current hobby project. |
| 18:37.10 | Migs | T4rku5: What kind of job are you looking for? |
| 18:43.45 | T4rku5 | Info Sec |
| 18:45.33 | T4rku5 | Information Security Engineer/analyst stuff |
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| 18:59.30 | manithree | spent all Thanksgiving day working on a science fair project |
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| 21:22.26 | Migs | T4rku5: In northern Utah? |
| 21:42.09 | fadein | anybody here have experience with ltrace(1)? |
| 21:42.33 | fadein | I want to use it to trace calls made to libncurses functions, but I can't seem to get that to work... |
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| 21:59.32 | levi | I haven't used it before, but it looks like something worth learning. |
| 22:00.15 | T4rku5 | Migs, Right now, anywhere in central to north Utah |
| 22:00.26 | T4rku5 | and further if there's relocation assistance available |
| 22:01.01 | levi | fadein: What problems are you having with it? Just doesn't print anything? |
| 22:01.24 | fadein | levi: well, I think the problem may be that ltrace on RedHat is ancient - |
| 22:01.46 | fadein | levi: on my Gentoo box the -l flag accepts a pattern; on RedHat 6.4 -l seems to want a filename |
| 22:02.36 | fadein | but no matter what permutation of the .so's name I give it (full path, with/without 'lib-' prefix, symlink or actual .so file...) it still doesn't filter out all of the other crap that I could care less about |
| 22:02.37 | levi | I don't even have it installed on my laptop. |
| 22:02.51 | levi | There's always grep. |
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| 22:03.20 | fadein | except then I'd have to know the names of all of the possible function names in libncurses |
| 22:03.37 | fadein | I'm not quite sure what I'm looking for, save I know it's some ncurses function |
| 22:03.40 | levi | Ah, it doesn't include the library name? |
| 22:03.44 | fadein | no |
| 22:03.48 | fadein | at least, not by default |
| 22:05.44 | fadein | and I can't build the latest version of ltrace on this RedHat box because its toolchain is too old... |
| 22:06.02 | levi | Heh, fun. |
| 22:06.39 | fadein | booyeah |
| 22:06.41 | levi | Well, you can always get a list of function from libncurses and write a filter using those. |
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| 22:08.08 | youtah | HOWDY |
| 22:08.15 | youtah | I am alive, do not fear! |
| 22:08.20 | youtah | I just had to reboot my machine |
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| 22:12.48 | levi | fadein: objdump -T /usr/lib/libncurses.so.5.9 | awk -e '{ print $7 }' |
| 22:14.36 | fadein | levi: thanks! |
| 22:15.22 | fadein | let's see - that's only 440 symbols... |
| 22:15.26 | levi | Heh. |
| 22:15.33 | levi | There are probably some blank lines in there. |
| 22:15.44 | Migs | guy in another channel has been on hold with Adobe for 3 hours...and they just disconnected him because the call center closed |
| 22:15.45 | Migs | lol'd |
| 22:15.49 | fadein | oh, yeah, there are |
| 22:16.05 | levi | Not a whole lot, percentage-wise, but a few. |
| 22:16.39 | fadein | 123 blanks |
| 22:16.46 | fadein | so that's only 317 functions... |
| 22:17.23 | youtah | https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/1401324_10151748995765060_190644353_o.jpg |
| 22:17.29 | youtah | Gobble Gobble Gobble |
| 22:18.32 | levi | fadein: Well, I'm not suggesting you manually compare them. You should be able to load those into a perl hash or something and use that to filter the ltrace output. |
| 22:18.50 | fadein | levi: yeah, that's what I have in mind |
| 22:19.10 | fadein | don't take me wrong - your idea is much less work than what I originally had in mind |
| 22:19.43 | fadein | I'm just griping because I keep running into the limitations of RedHat's stability |
| 22:20.01 | fadein | I'm sure I'll come to appreciate it as more and more of our customers switch over to Linux |
| 22:21.35 | levi | Yeah, open source stuff is not exactly friendly to 'stable' consumers in general. Debian Stable and RedHat's enterprise stuff tend to feel downright old sometimes. |
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| 22:21.52 | fadein | oh, and I just discovered that there is another program called "latrace"... it appears to work more to my liking on this RedHat box... |
| 22:23.35 | fadein | I was really excited when we ported our software to Linux from AIX - I finally felt like I'd be able to apply all of the skills I learned at home |
| 22:23.59 | fadein | but I am constantly hamstrung by my reliance on cutting-edge features |
| 22:24.17 | fadein | still, our AIX boxes are rocking ksh88 |
| 22:24.38 | fadein | so I really shouldn't complain too much that RHEL 6.4 is shipping zsh-4.3.10 |
| 22:25.03 | levi | ksh was the first shell I had a book for. |
| 22:25.18 | levi | Those were the days. |
| 22:27.14 | levi | The typical mall bookstore had about 3 books on 'the internet' and they taught you all about how to do usenet, email, ftp, gopher, and... MUDs! |
| 22:27.40 | unum | good old archie |
| 22:27.44 | unum | those were the days |
| 22:28.03 | levi | archie and veronica |
| 22:29.59 | levi | Mostly I just went to the standard ftp sites, like ftp.sunet.se and ftp.funet.fi |
| 22:30.30 | youtah | "Twenty-eight percent indicate that amongst family, friends and acquaintances they hide the fact that they work in IT for fear of being asked to provide technical help." |
| 22:30.36 | youtah | http://www.teksystems.com/resources/pressroom/2013/teksystems-geek-pride-and-stress?goback=%2Egde_46343_member_243195892 |
| 22:30.57 | levi | I can't remember the other big ones. Well, there was ftp.cdrom.com. |
| 23:05.21 | youtah | shakes first at Centos |
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| 23:08.50 | goozbach | why4? |
| 23:10.51 | youtah | Have a bunch of DHCP configured machines |
| 23:10.56 | youtah | switch them to Static years later |
| 23:11.07 | youtah | makes a mess of a bunch of files all over the place |
| 23:11.27 | youtah | Cats, sleeping with dogs, etc |
| 23:11.38 | goozbach | ohh you might try using a tool I discovered recently |
| 23:12.08 | goozbach | system-config-network-cmd |
| 23:12.14 | keldwud | pxe boot on virtual box? |
| 23:13.03 | keldwud | network on top of boot order, right? |
| 23:14.24 | unum | I just tell everyone I don't know windows and refer them to my younger brother(hourly rate $60) |
| 23:14.30 | unum | though I guess he's given that up |
| 23:14.36 | unum | so I just I say I don't do windows |
| 23:18.44 | rsimpkins | Migs: That's horrible about the guy on hold with Adobe support. Was it support for creative? |
| 23:22.46 | youtah | That's what I used goozbach and now I have 8 DNS entries in my /etc/resolve.conf |
| 23:22.47 | youtah | lol |
| 23:22.51 | youtah | something happened somewhere |
| 23:23.03 | goozbach | ohh you need to make sure to use the clean option |
| 23:23.15 | goozbach | clear option |
| 23:23.16 | youtah | They have those now? |
| 23:23.29 | goozbach | system-config-network-cmd -cif some/file/ |
| 23:23.41 | youtah | Trying to think of a funny joke about using the tool to clean my house |
| 23:23.58 | goozbach | ahh |
| 23:24.09 | goozbach | is comedy chalanged tonight |
| 23:24.14 | youtah | ditto |
| 23:26.16 | youtah | NETWORKING=yes still makes me giggle every time I configure.... networking. |
| 23:27.28 | goozbach | like answering "sex" with "yes" on an application |
| 23:27.30 | goozbach | ? |
| 23:27.35 | youtah | Yes |
