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| 18:44.50 | unum | only one month until psych the musical |
| 18:50.54 | klys | ~slashdot |
| 18:52.10 | shalkie | Oh, infobot! Now what is klys supposed to do? Go to the website? For petes' sake. |
| 18:52.30 | shalkie | is just going to go mind his own business now |
| 18:53.21 | ElForesto | unum: I dunno. Scrubs really hit the peak of what a sitcom musical episode should be, and the last season of Psych was kind of disappointing IMO. |
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| 19:11.11 | unum | ElForesto: I remember reading that the psych people were really jealous of how well scrubs pulled it off |
| 19:11.29 | unum | I really did enjoy scrubs |
| 19:11.48 | joshh | who was talking about breaking bad in here the other day |
| 19:11.52 | unum | and I'm afraid I have to agree with you about psych, I don't think I enjoyed last season as much as I've enjoyed previous seasons |
| 19:13.26 | joshh | im into season 4 now and it is pretty good |
| 19:18.45 | keldwud | breakingbad++ |
| 19:19.26 | keldwud | anybody know of a good channel for psx emulation discussion? I'm having a rough time with getting my memory card file to work with a certain game |
| 19:26.56 | youtah | NACHOOOOOOOOOOOOOS |
| 19:50.44 | klys | ~quote MU |
| 19:51.01 | unum | youtah: that's what I'm having too |
| 19:51.06 | unum | actually I need to go make them now |
| 19:51.52 | klys | today a first: vanilla pudding with oreo |
| 19:53.26 | goozbach | how's it going Jeez son! ( Jayce^ )? |
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| 19:59.37 | klys | is cool and relaxed |
| 19:59.42 | klys | ~slashdot |
| 20:03.03 | shalkie | I haven't seen psych for a bit. They could do a good job, but scrubs set such a high bar. |
| 20:03.18 | shalkie | That and Buffy of course, though that wasn't a comedy (always). |
| 20:06.54 | Jayce^ | goozbach: ? |
| 20:07.10 | Jayce^ | goozbach: you read that larry correia link we all were sharing yesterday? |
| 20:08.45 | goozbach | Jayce^: your comment on fb about the spelling of your name |
| 20:08.47 | goozbach | and yes |
| 20:08.51 | goozbach | larry is awesom |
| 20:09.39 | Jayce^ | very very awesome |
| 20:09.44 | Jayce^ | you've read the MHI series? |
| 20:15.36 | Jayce^ | goozbach: just shared another kickstarter that you'll need to add to your list |
| 20:15.45 | Jayce^ | http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1742632993/heirloom-chemistry-set |
| 20:16.14 | goozbach | geez! why can't I be flush with cash at the moment!? |
| 20:16.24 | goozbach | anyone want to back that for me for my christmas present? |
| 20:16.30 | goozbach | haven't read the MHI series |
| 20:16.39 | Jayce^ | are you kidding, I gotta get one for my son.. and one for me.. |
| 20:16.45 | Jayce^ | goozbach: you really really should |
| 20:17.00 | goozbach | I'm about to finish harry potter then I'll be needing a new book series to get into |
| 20:17.18 | goozbach | thinking mike cole, or some of the classics that jsmith suggested a while ago |
| 20:17.22 | Jayce^ | that is the one.. |
| 20:17.29 | Jayce^ | myke cole |
| 20:17.54 | Jayce^ | that spelling made him hard to google correctly for at one point |
| 20:18.41 | goozbach | I follow him on twitter after an interaction with Howard |
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| 20:32.58 | youtah | Seriously unum? Oh man, jealousy is filling my bloodstream |
| 20:33.13 | youtah | So... We just finished the TV series Jericho |
| 20:33.18 | youtah | Anyone watch that one? |
| 20:33.51 | youtah | I have learned that I need a 10,000 gallon diesel fuel tank buried in a hidden location, generators, and a hard copy of everything on Wikipedia |
| 20:34.01 | youtah | Oh, lots of medicines, Salt, and ammo galore |
| 20:34.13 | youtah | oh yeah, and alcohol. Apparently that stuff has a million uses |
| 20:36.32 | goozbach | youtah: make alcohol |
| 20:36.37 | youtah | ^ |
| 20:36.42 | youtah | Good idea |
| 20:36.55 | goozbach | http://opensourceecology.org/ |
| 20:37.01 | youtah | Oh yeah, and wind turbines |
| 20:37.15 | youtah | and I need a sniper rifle |
| 20:37.23 | youtah | is trying to think of what else was useful |
| 20:37.35 | youtah | Oh yeah, a bunch of 1970's trucks... so in case there is an EMP |
| 20:37.41 | youtah | then my trucks will still work |
| 20:38.14 | goozbach | Lots of space, lots of reliable methods of detection, *LOYAL* friends (no minions) |
| 20:38.39 | youtah | and my HAM radio (and other communication equipment) in a Ammo can (see EMP comment( |
| 20:38.40 | youtah | ) |
| 20:39.23 | youtah | Oh yeah, and I paid $2.87 a gallon yesterday |
| 20:39.36 | youtah | (a gallon of Gasoline that is) |
| 20:44.04 | fozzmoo | Where? |
| 20:44.13 | fozzmoo | hi, btw. |
| 20:44.21 | youtah | lol thx |
| 20:44.23 | youtah | one sec.... |
| 20:45.06 | youtah | 40.387984, -111.831262 |
| 20:45.12 | fozzmoo | Jayce^ has been telling me to watch Jericho for a while now. |
| 20:45.27 | youtah | It's really good. |
| 20:45.44 | youtah | Although, don't watch it right before you go to bed. I had amazingly disturbing dreams |
| 20:45.56 | youtah | While Breaking Bad helped me sleep like a baby |
| 20:46.38 | youtah | It's the Texaco just off I-15 (East side of the freeway) at the Main Street Exit in American Fork. |
| 20:46.58 | youtah | Just down the street from the Costcos |
| 20:48.38 | fozzmoo | Cool. |
| 20:48.58 | fozzmoo | makes a mental note to get Jericho on the server. |
| 20:49.48 | youtah | The nice thing is that most of it is actually, quite believable and not really too far fetched for the given circumstances. |
| 20:52.32 | youtah | "Having a baby is a big responsibility. It's like being in charge of sanitation at a Haitian Jail." - Frank |
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| 20:57.11 | fozzmoo | Salt Lake Perl Mongers meeting tonight, btw. |
| 20:57.32 | youtah | cc jlp_znc ^^ |
| 20:57.50 | fozzmoo | If you miss it, I'll upload video to youtube. |
| 20:58.17 | youtah | He's actually not in today, so I sent him a message |
| 20:58.25 | youtah | over the Googles |
| 21:12.40 | jessie | Angular.js meet up tonight in Lehi, btw. |
| 21:12.55 | jessie | Also BTW, if any of you rock at JS my company is looking to hire people. |
| 21:14.03 | youtah | http://i.imgur.com/GHKvj6g.jpg |
| 21:14.09 | romanovic | jessie: what is the name if your company? and do you have a job link? |
| 21:14.16 | romanovic | is not looking for work, but has friends who are |
| 21:14.45 | jessie | romanovic: Jive Communications. http://jive.com/job/engineering-web-application-developer |
| 21:14.51 | youtah | Someone in my neighborhood is also hiring or looking for PKI/Radius gurus as well. |
| 21:15.01 | romanovic | jessie: thx |
| 21:15.04 | youtah | Just as an FYI if you know someone that is looking, that has those skills |
| 21:15.27 | jessie | romanovic: We're looking for awesome devs of all types, not just JS devs, too. |
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| 21:54.18 | youtah | It's been a No Doubt kind of day |
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| 22:28.23 | jima | youtah: don't speak |
| 22:31.30 | jsmith | youtah: spiderwebs? |
| 22:32.17 | jsmith | youtah: Undone? Settle down? Ex-girlfriend? Dreaming the same dream? |
| 22:36.39 | manithree1 | Speaking of Larry Correia, it's almost time for 2013 "Christmas Noun!" Yay! |
| 22:50.23 | jima | jsmith: no, no, i was just telling youtah to shut up. ;-) |
| 22:53.59 | youtah | sorry, twas afk a minute.... eating a delicious apple and making hot chocolate |
| 22:54.18 | youtah | jima, jsmith I was listening to the song Running in particular. |
| 22:54.46 | youtah | But primarily Tragic Kingdom |
| 22:56.19 | youtah | http://blog.backblaze.com/2013/11/12/how-long-do-disk-drives-last/ |
| 22:56.37 | shalkie | Today dns.comcast.net is awesome. |
| 22:56.53 | shalkie | They are reporting that .gov is broken. |
| 22:58.18 | youtah | comcast is awesome |
| 22:58.22 | youtah | giggles and snorts |
| 23:03.23 | shalkie | I know. :-) It has also been pointed out to me that it is an old report (August), but still I get to praise them so rarely. |
| 23:04.10 | shalkie | I get tired of going off about how they suck snails balls, when they are being nice. |
| 23:04.16 | shalkie | :-\ |
| 23:04.27 | shalkie | is a former, and very disgruntled customer. |
| 23:09.59 | utahcon | giggles |
| 23:10.30 | utahcon | Just in case I wasn't the only one wondering: http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Do_snails_have_testicles#slide1 |
| 23:14.23 | youtah | ROFL come on now utahcon!!! This is a family safe site! |
| 23:14.32 | youtah | Mark that snail stuff as NSFW! |
| 23:14.36 | youtah | ;-) |
| 23:22.35 | klys | Judge: No Privacy Expectations For Data On P2P Networks ;; AMD Confirms Kaveri APU Is a 512-GPU Core Integrated |
| 23:23.03 | klys | Judge: No Privacy Expectations For Data On P2P Networks ;; AMD Confirms Kaveri APU Is a 512-GPU Core Integrated |
| 23:23.18 | harleypig | oops |
| 23:24.08 | klys | ~slashdot |
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| 23:24.33 | klys | sorry didn't realize it hit return :p |
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| 23:27.13 | klys | I don't mean to interrupt you guys' conversation |
| 23:27.26 | klys | ttyl |
| 23:28.25 | youtah | lol kly |
| 23:28.30 | youtah | klys* |
| 23:31.08 | utahcon | back to snail balls... |
| 23:34.33 | fungus | lol ""Hermaphrodites have twice the fun!"" |
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| 23:41.08 | yousiry | Are there any members of the mormon church in here? |
| 23:41.31 | utahcon | yes sir yousiry |
| 23:41.36 | utahcon | lots of them actually |
| 23:42.28 | klys | no I'm with jesus christ o.l.d. saints |
| 23:43.01 | klys | channel: ##lds |
| 23:43.01 | yousiry | What is the churchs policy for HIV/AIDS prevention in 3rd world countries? |
| 23:43.31 | youtah | That HIV and AIDS is bad. |
| 23:43.41 | klys | .g hiv aids site:lds.org |
| 23:43.47 | klys | hmm... |
| 23:43.52 | yousiry | Naturally , but how does the church offer to deal with it? |
| 23:44.19 | yousiry | Does it support for example distribution of condoms to the population? |
| 23:44.51 | youtah | I don't think they've officially come out with a statement or anything about 3rd world AIDS prevention. That's pretty specific. |
| 23:45.20 | yousiry | Is the church active in Africa? |
| 23:45.31 | ElForesto | Straight from the horse's mouth: http://www.lds.org/handbook/handbook-2-administering-the-church/selected-church-policies/21.3#213 |
| 23:45.34 | yousiry | My particular love is the country of Uganda |
| 23:45.44 | yousiry | its one of the countries I lvoe most in the world. |
| 23:45.54 | youtah | ElForesto wins. He found something the fastest |
| 23:45.57 | ElForesto | I don't see that they've taken any position beyond a pure eccesiastical one. |
| 23:46.15 | youtah | Oh great, now ElForesto is using big words |
| 23:46.25 | ElForesto | Your mom uses big words! |
| 23:46.33 | youtah | cries |
| 23:47.17 | yousiry | so they offer chastity before marriage, total fidelity and abstinence from homosexual relations, avoidance of drugs and reverence of the body |
| 23:48.15 | ElForesto | aka exactly what you probably thought they would. |
| 23:48.24 | youtah | Yeah, looks like that's it in 21.3.4 |
| 23:49.22 | yousiry | What about contraceptions? |
| 23:49.25 | fungus | 21.4.4 explains that usage of Birth Control is accepted. |
| 23:49.29 | yousiry | They work too. |
| 23:49.51 | fungus | accepted for use of married persons only. |
| 23:50.14 | yousiry | I have been to the hospital in Bwindi in the west of Uganda, where I do quite a lot of work, it is unbelievable the pain and suffering you se |
| 23:50.29 | yousiry | its true, abstinence will stop it. |
| 23:50.34 | youtah | Link specifically to where fungus pointed http://www.lds.org/handbook/handbook-2-administering-the-church/selected-church-policies/21.3#21.4.4 |
| 23:50.37 | yousiry | but so will condoms. |
| 23:51.02 | fungus | Yes, but that means sex outside of marriage which is forbidden |
| 23:51.32 | yousiry | Its a strange thing, this obsession with sex, absolutely obsession. |
| 23:52.36 | yousiry | Sex is a primary impulse fungus. |
| 23:52.44 | yousiry | Its a bit like food in that respect. |
| 23:52.45 | klys | ethically, I must ask is this the deontologist maxim of the church or the member to which you refer |
| 23:52.47 | yousiry | only even more exciting. |
| 23:53.04 | youtah | ...that can be controlled by the frontal lobe of the brain, giving us control over ourselves. |
| 23:53.10 | ElForesto | I find the obsession with reducing sex to nothing more than a set of physical sensations and potential consequences to be baffling. |
| 23:53.32 | yousiry | The only people obsessed with food are anorexics and the morbidly obese |
| 23:53.57 | klys | consensually, one or the other party must first be said to be obsessed. |
| 23:54.30 | klys | and this woukd carry huge ethical ramifications for the imperative which results. |
| 23:54.44 | yousiry | i THINK IT WILL ONE DAY BE ADMITTED THAT IT WAS WRONG TO SAY THAT CONDOMS ARE BAD, OR NOT AS IMMORAL IN THE SAME WAY. |
| 23:54.50 | yousiry | Sorry for capslocking |
| 23:55.02 | ElForesto | It should also be noted in the discussion above that the high success rates of condoms are only in ideal lab circumstances. There is a substantive amount of user error which greatly reduces their effectiveness. |
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| 23:56.15 | fungus | ElForesto, which is why education is very important. |
| 23:56.51 | klys | and if, through this statement, he portends the first imperative on deontology, the ethical theory to which he now refers as part of trust must be regarded as the paradigm of trust. |
| 23:57.04 | yousiry | I'm not denying that abstinence is a very good way of not getting AIDS, it really is, it works, so does being faithful, but so do condoms, and do not deny it |
| 23:57.42 | harleypig_ | condoms are only reliable 98% of the time. |
| 23:57.45 | ElForesto | Educated or not, people still screw that up in the real world. Heat of the moment, things are getting steamy, and you reenact a scene from Knocked Up. |
| 23:58.01 | youtah | stepping back, why would it even be a churches (any churches) responsibility to even give out condoms? |
| 23:58.09 | fungus | ElForesto, right, but even some protection is better than zero. |
| 23:58.31 | ElForesto | Better than is not the same as good. |
| 23:58.33 | yousiry | youtah, I think its somewhat effects on the question of whether the Church (any churches) is a force of good or evil. |
| 23:58.46 | ElForesto | A rotten steak is better than a horse apple, but I wouldn't eat either. ;) |
| 23:59.07 | harleypig_ | yousiry: feh ... should a church be hypocritical? |
| 23:59.18 | youtah | It's like me going to a grocery store to find religion |
| 23:59.39 | klys | within the trust model, a theory on management, politics, and law: paradigmal involvement affects storied content, sponsorship, and frequency, and is affected by the price of entry, the name, breadth, fun, and classification; all aspects of trust. |
| 23:59.57 | fungus | youtah, it's not about responsibility, it's mostly about churches specifically blocking their usage. |
