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| 15:08.22 | keldwud | hey what do you guys use in linux to rip audio? my default choices in ubuntu are banshee, rhythmbox, brasero, and vlc |
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| 15:13.10 | neybar_work | I use grip |
| 15:13.27 | neybar_work | it is probably been outclassed by now, but I've used it for years. |
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| 15:22.28 | keldwud | I love this documentation: http://banshee.fm/support/guide/audio-cds/ |
| 15:24.06 | fugue88 | still uses cdparanoia |
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| 15:39.10 | neybar_work | youtah: turntable? |
| 15:49.25 | goozbach | neybar_work: you're welcome to join us in fourathens |
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| 15:58.32 | fozzmoo | ?? |
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| 15:58.49 | fozzmoo | keldwud: I use audex or k3b |
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| 16:06.35 | fozzmoo | What's fourathens? |
| 16:07.19 | goozbach | the tech incubator I've got an office at |
| 16:07.38 | fozzmoo | You want neybar_work to go there? |
| 16:07.40 | goozbach | they've got a turntable room which as of this morning was more popular than utah |
| 16:07.45 | fozzmoo | oh okay. |
| 16:07.47 | goozbach | just saying "hey there's folks here" |
| 16:08.40 | goozbach | but then after I said that, most everyone left :/ |
| 16:08.53 | neybar_work | doh |
| 16:09.40 | goozbach | yeah |
| 16:09.51 | goozbach | still two of us at the tables, so at least I can hear music |
| 16:10.53 | fozzmoo | Would I get poop flung at me if I don't play techno? |
| 16:11.07 | Jayce^ | flings from the nearby office |
| 16:12.39 | goozbach | fozzmoo: nah, there's been james blunt, some eclectic athens bands, and some techno |
| 16:14.31 | fozzmoo | wipes off |
| 16:14.53 | goozbach | but then you go and play prog rock :D |
| 16:14.55 | goozbach | ;) |
| 16:15.08 | goozbach | haven't really heard any PT since our road trip |
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| 17:09.31 | keldwud | hmm... expr doesn't allow parens? |
| 17:09.39 | keldwud | what do I use instead to group statements? |
| 17:11.19 | goozbach | subshell? |
| 17:11.40 | keldwud | googles subshell |
| 17:11.54 | keldwud | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electron_shell |
| 17:11.59 | keldwud | that's what I get :-p |
| 17:12.11 | keldwud | http://www.tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/subshells.html |
| 17:12.44 | keldwud | ahh |
| 17:12.47 | keldwud | I think maybe I understand |
| 17:13.10 | goozbach | bit it depends on what you're trying to do |
| 17:13.19 | goozbach | like ls $( for i in ...) |
| 17:13.28 | goozbach | or something like that |
| 17:13.45 | keldwud | ($numerator = expr n + n + n + n; $numerator / 4) |
| 17:13.51 | keldwud | ? |
| 17:13.55 | keldwud | ($numerator = expr n + n + n + n; $numerator / 4;) |
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| 17:14.19 | goozbach | ohh maths and shells are difficult |
| 17:14.20 | keldwud | i.e. I wanted the addition to happen before the division |
| 17:14.22 | keldwud | lol |
| 17:14.27 | goozbach | ahh |
| 17:14.30 | keldwud | ok so just stick with simple arithmetic in shell? |
| 17:14.40 | keldwud | I shouldn't try and get all fancy? |
| 17:14.49 | keldwud | I wanted to try it instead of google or calculator |
| 17:14.56 | goozbach | you get into issues with OoO with shell |
| 17:15.03 | goozbach | using bash I assume? |
| 17:15.07 | keldwud | yeah |
| 17:15.18 | goozbach | you could try double paren syntax |
| 17:15.22 | keldwud | hmm ok |
| 17:15.53 | keldwud | I produced a different error |
| 17:15.54 | goozbach | foo = (( maths )) |
| 17:15.58 | keldwud | ahh |
| 17:16.20 | keldwud | wait |
| 17:16.26 | keldwud | bash doesn't have an assignment operator? |
| 17:16.35 | keldwud | or if it does, I'm doing it wrong |
| 17:16.42 | keldwud | I did $foo = 10 |
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| 17:17.31 | keldwud | my noobishness keeps getting in my way |
| 17:19.48 | fugue88 | foo=10 |
| 17:19.55 | fugue88 | echo $foo |
| 17:20.27 | fugue88 | $ is only used to grab the value, basically. |
| 17:21.06 | fugue88 | keldwud: ^ |
| 17:24.47 | fugue88 | keldwud: btw, the info pages for bash are pretty good. I hardly ever use the man page for bash. |
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| 17:57.04 | youtah | Quick question for you guys.... |
| 17:57.19 | youtah | Anyone have a favorite e-commerce shopping cart? |
| 17:57.52 | youtah | I used http://www.x-cart.com once, like 6 years ago.... |
| 18:00.05 | Migs | I like OpenCart |
| 18:00.10 | Migs | easy to use, easy to customize |
| 18:08.26 | youtah | Thanks Migs |
| 18:41.59 | Migs | https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-ac6OeVHDs04/Ulw0jdQEQYI/AAAAAAAADi0/95I3XDXQMWA/w426-h354/that%2Bgirl%25E2%2580%2599s%2Ba%2Btrue%2Bfriend.gif |
| 18:45.54 | youtah | Poor guy |
| 18:47.14 | jlp_znc | keldwud: FYI, expr *does* support parens... you just have to escape them from your shell: expr 5 \* \( 2 + 3 \) |
| 18:47.23 | jlp_znc | yeah, "ick" comes to mind. :-) |
| 18:48.51 | keldwud | jlp_znc: I don't know why I didn't think about that |
| 18:49.12 | keldwud | what if I used quotes? |
| 18:49.15 | keldwud | would that also work? |
| 18:49.19 | jlp_znc | youtah: I also found Volusion, has a monthly fee instead of a one-time charge |
| 18:49.40 | jlp_znc | keldwud: I suspect that might be uglier: expr 5 '*' '(' 2 + 3 ')' |
| 18:50.03 | jlp_znc | but yeah, it would work |
| 18:50.05 | keldwud | I mean around the whole expression :-p |
| 18:50.06 | keldwud | lol |
| 18:50.14 | keldwud | but it would make the numbers not work, right? |
| 18:50.22 | keldwud | because then they would be char instead of ints? |
| 18:50.23 | jlp_znc | no, you would have to quote each thing individually. expr is kind of dumb about that |
| 18:50.35 | keldwud | ok. makes sense |
| 18:50.50 | jlp_znc | keep in mind, expr is, what, 40+ years old? |
| 18:50.55 | keldwud | lol |
| 18:51.05 | keldwud | owait. shi-. you might be right |
| 18:51.11 | keldwud | I just realized how old I was |
| 18:51.13 | keldwud | gah |
| 18:51.18 | jlp_znc | chuckles |
| 18:51.23 | keldwud | I hate that feeling |
| 18:51.31 | jlp_znc | yeah, my birthday was last week |
| 18:51.44 | keldwud | happy birthday :) |
| 18:52.07 | jlp_znc | I'm getting very close to 50 now. not looking forward to that colonoscopy appointment next year. |
| 18:52.21 | jlp_znc | thx |
| 18:58.32 | youtah | http://imgur.com/gallery/iWTvxUd first comment, amazing |
| 19:03.25 | jlp_znc | Mr. Pants all-nude Cabaret! |
| 19:03.48 | youtah | Does that say "Mr. Pants?" |
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| 19:06.14 | keldwud | heh. |
| 19:06.26 | keldwud | my 5 year old daughter drew a bunch of pictures in the break room |
| 19:06.34 | keldwud | and she is selling them to everyone that comes in |
| 19:06.36 | keldwud | "for free" |
| 19:06.40 | keldwud | "I'm selling them for free" |
| 19:06.47 | keldwud | I like the way she thinks. Genius marketing |
| 19:07.02 | jlp_znc | awesome |
| 19:07.04 | goozbach | first one's free |
| 19:07.08 | keldwud | if she were to say "here, have one for free", that takes the value away from them because it tells them that they aren't worth anything |
| 19:07.09 | youtah | Uhg. My wife sent me to work with some school fundraiser thingy |
| 19:07.11 | keldwud | goozbach: hahah |
| 19:07.13 | youtah | that I am supposed to put out |
| 19:07.23 | keldwud | you're alwasy supposed to put out for your wife |
| 19:07.24 | keldwud | duh |
| 19:07.35 | keldwud | oh wait. I missed that whole thing |
| 19:07.42 | youtah | stepped right into that one |
| 19:07.45 | keldwud | :) |
| 19:07.54 | jlp_znc | just sit it in the work cube. then you can tell her "I put it in a public area, but there were no takers." |
| 19:08.03 | keldwud | "my wife complains that I am supposed to put out" <-- firstworld problem |
| 19:08.20 | keldwud | jlp_znc: haha :) |
| 19:08.25 | youtah | but then I would feel bad, because she's going through all the energy and effort of getting family and friends to order/buy stuff |
| 19:08.27 | keldwud | I brought her to work today because bank holiday |
| 19:08.37 | keldwud | no day care and no school |
| 19:08.41 | jlp_znc | "holiday" |
| 19:09.01 | jlp_znc | you'll note that *you're* at work, and so am I |
| 19:09.13 | keldwud | haha |
| 19:09.17 | keldwud | good point :) |
| 19:09.20 | jlp_znc | not a holiday unless there are greeting cards for it |
| 19:09.26 | keldwud | I used it as an excuse for a half day |
| 19:09.30 | jlp_znc | I haven't seen any Columbus Day cards |
| 19:09.40 | keldwud | because my daughter can't last more than five hours before she goes crazy by herself |
| 19:09.51 | keldwud | she can make it five, but not much more than that |
| 19:11.03 | jlp_znc | how old is your daughter again? |
| 19:11.41 | youtah | This has been floating around Reddit/Facebook http://i.imgur.com/DNJRu7Q.jpg (warning, not politically correct) |
| 19:12.21 | keldwud | five |
| 19:12.26 | keldwud | ok you're right jlp_znc |
| 19:12.27 | keldwud | http://www.hallmark.com/search/?searchTerm=columbus%20day |
| 19:12.35 | keldwud | I was going to be a smart-ass and show you that there were |
| 19:12.40 | keldwud | but my search came up empty |
| 19:12.46 | youtah | lol |
| 19:13.30 | jlp_znc | at $(current employer - ... something, circa 2000-2001), we had a kids playroom at the office complete with TV, video games, movies, some toys, etc. and a webcam mounted near the ceiling so you could keep an eye on your little ones from your desk. |
| 19:13.39 | keldwud | youtah: hah. nice one |
| 19:13.52 | keldwud | yeah, I just put mine outside of my office window |
| 19:14.01 | keldwud | then I don't have to hear her |
| 19:14.08 | keldwud | and she doesn't have to ask me questions every 10 seconds |
| 19:14.18 | keldwud | but I can see everything she's doing in the dirt and the grass |
| 19:14.20 | youtah | http://www.buzzfeed.com/ellievhall/anthony-hopkins-sent-brian-cranston-and-the-cast-of-breaking?utm_campaign=socialflow&utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=buzzfeed |
| 19:14.57 | keldwud | wow. yeah if I binge watched breaking bad in the span of two weeks, I'd want to write about it, too. |
| 19:15.27 | youtah | I watched mine (S1E1 - Very End) in about a month |
| 19:16.38 | keldwud | that's gotta feel pretty good, though. |
| 19:16.43 | keldwud | as an actor / writer / director |
| 19:16.57 | keldwud | to get a 'grats from somebody who came before you |
| 19:17.02 | keldwud | a *big* somebody |
| 19:17.22 | keldwud | that's like the epitome of success, imho |
| 19:17.23 | Migs | wow |
| 19:17.40 | youtah | yeah |
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| 19:17.45 | youtah | quite the Hat Tip IMO |
| 19:17.58 | keldwud | when you do it so well that the people that did it so well before you were doing well tell you how well you're doing :) |
| 19:18.15 | keldwud | I know that sounds pretty abstract and circular, but it should make sense :) |
| 19:18.24 | keldwud | *abstract and recursive |
| 19:18.41 | youtah | It's like when Hans finds out that Zoolander was actually scared and felt threatned by him. |
| 19:18.55 | youtah | watched Zoolander this weekend. |
| 20:30.08 | rsimpkins | Columbus day no longer makes any sense. :( |
| 20:31.26 | jlp_znc | yeah, why don't we have Amerigo Vespucci day? |
| 20:33.31 | jlp_znc | http://archive.org/details/HareWeGo-Columbus |
| 20:34.25 | youtah | http://imgur.com/gallery/DNJRu7Q make sure to read the comments. Some are horrible (still entertaining), others spectacular |
| 20:34.59 | rsimpkins | I do think Columbus was a very interesting fellow. I read this book, and learned a great deal: http://www.amazon.com/Admiral-Ocean-Sea-Christopher-Columbus/dp/1567311431 |
| 20:35.13 | youtah | http://theoatmeal.com/comics/columbus_day |
| 20:35.36 | rsimpkins | Certainly learned enough to understand _why_ Columbus did what he did, what he was thinking, and what he wanted to accomplish. |
| 20:36.00 | rsimpkins | theoatmeal doesn't have enough room to dive in to that. ;-) |
| 20:36.02 | youtah | lol |
| 20:36.18 | youtah | it does a good job at it |
| 20:36.31 | rsimpkins | It doesn't explain why. |
| 20:36.52 | rsimpkins | Calling out just the bad stuff while not explaining why the bad stuff happened is - well - complicated. |
| 20:37.30 | youtah | yeah, but his key objective to disrupt the general mindset is achieved by his post |
| 20:38.27 | rsimpkins | Hopefully it at least encourages people to read more. I doubt it though. If you are reading 'theoatmeal' to gain world insight... I can't help you. :) |
| 20:38.29 | youtah | and allows people to break free from their Elementary School Teacher's misguided teachings/notion, and hopefully serves as a catalyst for further research |
| 20:39.15 | Migs | personally, I think Columbus should have TWO holidays in his honor |
| 20:39.43 | rsimpkins | If you want to really get to know Columbus - read that book I posted. He doesn't deserve a national holiday, but he is a very important figure in our history. |
| 20:46.11 | Migs | rsimpkins: Can't you just give the TL;DR version? |
| 20:47.35 | youtah | http://theoatmeal.com/comics/columbus_day << TL;DR version |
| 20:47.35 | youtah | ;-) |
| 20:48.19 | Migs | thank you, youtah |
| 20:48.27 | Migs | :) |
| 20:49.03 | Migs | rsimpkins: What makes your book better than other books about Chrissy C? |
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| 20:53.05 | fozzmoo | flings at Jayce^ |
| 20:54.43 | goozbach | fling! fling! |
| 20:59.56 | jlp_znc | http://theoatmeal.com/comics/movie_theater_layout <- I think I will post this outside the theater next time I go to a movie |
| 21:00.20 | jlp_znc | warning, some severe language in that image. if you're offended by that, too bad for you. |
| 21:04.11 | goozbach | http://screen.yahoo.com/snl/black-ops-090000297.html |
| 21:09.51 | manithree | If you're offended by strong language in theoatmeal, Into the dome! |
| 21:09.53 | jlp_znc | goozbach: nice to see SNL can still make a good skit |
| 21:10.17 | jlp_znc | manithree: that's my new battle cry: "Into the DOME!" |
| 21:10.30 | manithree | I recorded snl this weekend. Boy Dance Party was the funniest sketch |
| 21:11.31 | jlp_znc | I haven't really watched SNL since the Dan Ackroyd/Jane Curtin days |
| 21:11.32 | manithree | I hadn't watched snl for years |
| 21:12.57 | youtah | http://www.infoworld.com/d/security/backdoor-found-in-d-link-router-firmware-code-228725 |
| 21:13.34 | jlp_znc | good thing I'm running dd-wrt! |
| 21:14.39 | youtah | You've gotta read it |
| 21:14.49 | youtah | mumbles "Stupid Joel" |
| 21:15.08 | fozzmoo | AWESOME! |
| 21:15.14 | jlp_znc | bad move, Joel |
| 21:15.24 | fozzmoo | I need to get me an N-router that I can put dd-wrt on. |
| 21:16.17 | manithree | fozzmoo: You might as well get an ac router now |
| 21:16.45 | jlp_znc | hmmm, mine are DIR-632As... apparently not vulnerable |
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| 21:21.33 | jlp_znc | heh, D-link was not immediately available for comment. they're out trying to see if anyone named Joel still works for the company. |
| 21:21.56 | youtah | Firing all Joels |
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| 21:26.43 | youtah | Could Joel, yes, all of you Joels, please meet in the HR Conference room 193 in thirty minutes? </scratchy voice over speaker system> |
| 21:29.15 | fungus | lol, "Don't worry, for I have a cunning plan!" |
| 21:37.46 | jlp_znc | is it very cunning, my lord? |
| 21:38.45 | jlp_znc | hmmm, seagate 1TB 7200rpm drive for $60 with free shipping. |
| 21:39.44 | jlp_znc | aww, sold out |
| 21:39.47 | jlp_znc | :-( |
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| 21:45.09 | kalcy2 | hello |
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| 21:48.46 | Migs | there was one on Tiger Direct for $35 or something after rebate |
| 21:50.08 | jlp_znc | yeah, that one was on tiger direct with no rebate required... 24-hour sale but they're all gone already unless you want to go to a real store. |
| 21:50.28 | Migs | meh |
| 21:51.11 | jlp_znc | looks like texas would be the closest place to find a real store, although I could ask my dad to drive over to christiana delaware and pick one up for me |
| 21:52.24 | jlp_znc | it's only about 63 miles for him :-/ |
| 21:52.39 | jlp_znc | (essentially from one end of delaware to the other) |
| 21:52.53 | jlp_znc | okay, 2/3 of the state |
| 21:53.02 | jlp_znc | about like me driving to ogden. :-) |
| 21:54.02 | zzzirk | mmmm, sounds about like my daily commute ;) |
| 21:54.13 | jlp_znc | yeah, the east coast is weird |
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| 21:54.35 | jlp_znc | we hop in the car and drive a couple hundred miles to go shopping. they go through three states by doing that. |
| 21:54.54 | youtah | yeah, but it still takes them 3 X longer |
| 21:55.03 | jlp_znc | exactly! |
| 21:55.14 | jlp_znc | that's what's so weird |
| 21:56.29 | youtah | I remember, being a young 19yo in New Jersey, serving an LDS mission |
| 21:56.34 | youtah | stuck in traffic on the turn pike |
| 21:56.46 | youtah | and a car full of girls were right next to us |
| 21:57.01 | youtah | and they kept trying to flirt with us (there were 4 of us in the car) |
| 21:57.10 | youtah | and we had no AC, and it was summer, and it was super hot outside |
| 21:57.17 | youtah | so we had the windows down |
| 21:57.53 | youtah | Anyway, we were stuck next to them for about 3 hours |
| 21:58.02 | youtah | and took us 3 hours to go about 2 miles |
| 21:58.45 | fozzmoo | heh. |
| 21:58.49 | youtah | ends his random story rambling |
| 21:59.45 | fozzmoo | gettin' hot and sweaty on the highway with the ladies. |
| 21:59.54 | youtah | Dude |
| 21:59.59 | fozzmoo | In joisey. |
| 22:00.04 | youtah | I am sparing you a LOT of details |
| 22:00.12 | youtah | that are not SFW |
| 22:00.51 | Jayce^ | pfft.. went to brasil.. lots of nsfw details in every story there :D |
| 22:00.54 | fozzmoo | Well, it's Joisey, so yeah. |
| 22:01.27 | youtah | Well, they claimed they were Lesbians and proceeded to "prove it" to us. |
| 22:01.31 | youtah | That is all I will say |
| 22:01.39 | kalcy2 | lolwat |
| 22:01.46 | youtah | they knew we were Missionaries and were going for a reaction |
| 22:01.58 | kalcy2 | ahhh, that makes more sense |
| 22:02.21 | youtah | I dont think I have ever told anyone that story |
| 22:02.27 | youtah | come to think of it |
| 22:04.18 | Migs | I bet they weren't even lesbians! |
| 22:05.09 | youtah | and we were next to a budweiser plant |
| 22:05.51 | Migs | sounds like a veritable den of iniquity |
| 22:06.40 | youtah | Ever been to New Jersey? |
| 22:06.46 | youtah | Newark was one of the cleanest places I went |
| 22:06.53 | Migs | Why on earth would I ever leave Utah? |
| 22:07.00 | youtah | To see Newark |
| 22:07.05 | Migs | No. |
| 22:07.15 | Migs | I don't have a deathwish |
| 22:07.16 | youtah | okay, I can't argue against your logic |
| 22:07.23 | Migs | I don't want to get beaten and raped |
| 22:08.25 | youtah | I just remember coming back to Utah and thinking: A ) It's so quiet here. B ) People are "Asking" me questions, not "Axing" me questions and C ) everyone over 20 still had their teeth |
| 22:08.32 | Migs | lulz |
| 22:08.44 | fozzmoo | heh |
| 22:11.17 | youtah | I tore my shirt jumping over this fence http://goo.gl/maps/AJhNG when we were playing basketball and some guys started to get mad at some other guys on "their" court |
| 22:11.26 | youtah | so we left because we didnt want to see how it would end |
| 22:13.25 | youtah | it's funny to see that they dont have Google Street View for several of the streets in the areas I served |
| 22:23.50 | Migs | okay... |
| 22:25.03 | Migs | why didn't I know about Hobbitville in Sugarhouse until just now? |
| 22:25.10 | Migs | http://utahadventures.wordpress.com/2010/03/08/hobbitville/ |
| 22:28.12 | romanovic | Migs: haha! did you grow up in salt lake valley? i've heard Hobbitville tales since middle school |
| 22:28.18 | romanovic | went to school in Sandy |
| 22:28.59 | Migs | nope, Ogden |
| 22:34.18 | romanovic | a high school friend once claimed to have driven through at night. He said someone(s) came out and started hitting his car with blunt objects until he drove off. |
| 22:34.57 | romanovic | I didn't see his car post-incident, but it seems consistent with the accounts on that page |
| 22:36.53 | Migs | yeah, it seems a LOT of people have claimed that |
| 22:37.02 | Migs | probably just one angry resident that gives the area a bad name |
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| 22:57.57 | youtah | This is for ehurst http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9iP8SS9vQaU |
| 22:59.39 | youtah | That's it. I am buying winter tires. |
| 22:59.40 | youtah | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nRa-Jax-EN0 |
| 23:08.11 | jxqz | nowai |
| 23:08.17 | jxqz | kill ur fuel efficiency |
| 23:08.39 | jxqz | unless you have, like a lift in your garage and an impact wrench to quick change the tires |
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| 23:14.44 | jxqz | does anyone know why a home directory keeps renaming itself from '/home/user' to '(unreachable)'? |
| 23:17.22 | unum | is it network mount? |
| 23:19.23 | jxqz | unum: no, but I'm accessing it remotely from a login shell |
| 23:19.29 | jxqz | ordinary shell |
| 23:23.05 | youtah | jxqz, the only place I have been able to find, that supports lower mpg with snow tires is on forums. Nothing authorative in nature. |
| 23:23.36 | youtah | and the guys who said they do, said at the most 1~2 mpg, but they also suspect that driving throught he snow alone, could account for that. |
| 23:23.46 | youtah | and may have nothing to do with the tire itself. |
| 23:24.15 | youtah | Although, losing mpg in gas while tripling your stopping distance, and increasing your safety sounds very much so worth it |
| 23:24.57 | jxqz | tripling your stopping distance? :) |
| 23:25.12 | youtah | lol |
| 23:25.15 | youtah | I said that backwards |
| 23:25.27 | youtah | sorry, they were videos/stats from the UK... they're all backwards over there |
| 23:25.34 | jxqz | having lots of metal studs in your tires probably also wears the road down way faster than just rubber |
| 23:25.50 | youtah | this has nothing to do with studs |
| 23:26.09 | jxqz | hm, the only snow tires I know about have metal studs embedded in the tread |
| 23:26.18 | youtah | these are tires with a higher silicon content, which helps decrease the amount that the tire hardens under cold (7C) temps or lower |
| 23:26.28 | jxqz | oh, that's awesome |
| 23:26.38 | jxqz | silicone is awesome |
| 23:26.48 | youtah | while at the same time, helping prevent wear due to it being soft |
| 23:27.52 | youtah | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=elP_34ltdWI Source for the "three times the distance" |
| 23:27.53 | fugue88 | So, "wears like iron" is a bad thing, you really want "wears like silicone." |
| 23:27.58 | youtah | and they spell Tires Tyres... weirdos |
| 23:28.07 | youtah | ROFL fugue88 |
| 23:28.15 | fugue88 | :) |
| 23:29.07 | jxqz | silicone is very chemically and thermally stable |
| 23:29.15 | jxqz | especially compared to rubber |
| 23:29.44 | youtah | I like where this is going |
| 23:29.49 | youtah | (that's what she said) |
| 23:33.01 | levi | Studless snow tires are the new hotness in winter footwear for your vehicle. |
| 23:33.24 | youtah | Do those tires go all the way around? |
| 23:34.40 | levi | As opposed to tires that only go half the circumference of the wheel? |
| 23:35.37 | levi | Anyway, I have used studless snow tires, and they are indeed better than all-season tires in the snow. |
| 23:41.54 | fozzmoo | levi: How do they affect fuel economy? |
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| 23:45.11 | youtah | Yes levi, those tires aren't as sexy |
| 23:58.22 | jxqz | remember The Claw? |
| 23:58.26 | jxqz | from the 80s |
| 23:58.53 | jxqz | it had claws that sprang from the wheels to grab rough terrain when it hit something rocky |
| 23:59.24 | jxqz | I never had one, my family was too poor for junk like that, but maybe youtah can find retro 'The Claw' tires on ebay somewhere |
| 23:59.40 | jxqz | maybe he'll have to dig deeper though, 4chan or something |
