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| 08:08.46 | goozbach | I drew and colored a sad ghost eating a burger: https://twitter.com/goozbach/status/384950670148644864/photo/1 |
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| 13:16.20 | Migs | that is definitely a sad ghost eating a burger |
| 13:16.24 | Migs | excellent work |
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| 14:53.03 | goozbach | thanks! |
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| 16:25.30 | youtah | https://scontent-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/547810_10151884685167726_1082345305_n.png |
| 16:27.45 | Migs | haha, what's he holding in his right hand? |
| 16:27.56 | jlp_znc | looks like a banana |
| 16:28.06 | youtah | ^ |
| 16:28.30 | youtah | whatever it is, without him, stuff will still get done |
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| 16:33.12 | unum | well I was going to go to zions this weekend |
| 16:33.14 | unum | but I guess that's "not important" |
| 16:33.21 | youtah | I was going to Canyonlands National Park |
| 16:33.27 | youtah | http://www.doi.gov/shutdown/fy2014/upload/NPS-Fact-Sheet.pdf |
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| 16:41.32 | Migs | https://twitter.com/BarackObama/status/385081333917036545 |
| 16:41.36 | Migs | I love how Obama himself calls it Obamacare |
| 16:48.34 | youtah | https://twitter.com/markknoller/status/385082841203109889 |
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| 16:53.34 | youtah | How ironic that the National Parks are all shutdown on the same day as their Birthday? |
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| 17:03.00 | HumanCell | Did they shut down all of the government perks in DC? |
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| 17:05.38 | jlp_znc | and monuments, I'm sure they did. |
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| 17:07.42 | Jayce^ | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Washington_Monument_Syndrome |
| 17:11.32 | fozzmoo | Jayce^++ |
| 17:11.45 | fozzmoo | It's not stopping the WWII vets. :) |
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| 17:20.01 | Migs | http://thinkprogress.org/security/2013/10/01/2710701/photos-world-war-ii-veterans-force-memorial-honoring-them-open-during-shutdown/ |
| 17:20.08 | Migs | awesome |
| 17:23.05 | T4rku5 | Yeah, that's awesome :) "I've been in a war. This barrier won't hold me! I stormed a beach! What will you do, cop? Shoot me? I'm going to my memorial. Good bye." |
| 17:27.23 | goozbach | Migs: of course obama calls it obamacare. his ego won't allow for anything less |
| 17:31.46 | unum | the term obamacare was invented by conservative pundits as part of their FUD tactics |
| 17:32.00 | Zefram | ^ |
| 17:32.08 | unum | I never heard him use the term until last years debates |
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| 19:06.42 | keldwud | <UForgotten> keldwud: bluehost is awful |
| 19:06.42 | keldwud | <UForgotten> keldwud: have heard nothing but pain from that place. |
| 19:06.56 | keldwud | man, everywhere I go, bluehost gets a bad rap from other sysadmins |
| 19:07.27 | fugue88 | keldwud: Tell them that a *true* sysadmin wouldn't have any problems. ;) |
| 19:07.39 | keldwud | lol |
| 19:07.51 | keldwud | I'm just trying to figure out why bluehost has such a bad rap |
| 19:08.41 | fugue88 | Low-price things often attract hostile comments. Especially free things. |
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| 19:14.31 | unum | maybe it's the other office :) |
| 19:14.37 | unum | I've never heard anything bad |
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| 19:43.25 | fozzmoo | yawns |
| 19:45.12 | jsmith | fozzmoo: Stop that, please? |
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| 19:45.20 | jsmith | fozzmoo: Some of us are trying to be productive! |
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| 19:56.22 | Migs | I found a great dating site! ancestry.com |
| 20:00.56 | unum | everyone in the state is on it :) |
| 20:01.14 | unum | and probably connected to you by less than 6 degrees |
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| 20:24.39 | youtah | lol, love this >> T4rku5> Yeah, that's awesome :) "I've been in a war. This barrier won't hold me! I stormed a beach! What will you do, cop? Shoot me? I'm going to my memorial. Good bye." |
| 20:26.03 | youtah | so. |
| 20:26.04 | youtah | yeah. |
| 20:26.16 | youtah | they are going to have to replaced *ALL* the carpet padding in my entire house |
| 20:26.20 | youtah | my new house. |
| 20:26.29 | youtah | My furnished, un-packed, house. |
| 20:37.20 | jlp_znc | don't be surprised if you need to have the place repainted after the carpet guys are done. |
| 20:42.38 | goozbach | youtah: what happened? |
| 20:58.17 | unum | should repaint first |
| 20:58.24 | unum | that way they don't have to cover the carpet :) |
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| 21:04.11 | keldwud | so somebody interviewed with my boss today |
| 21:04.19 | keldwud | while I also happened to be out of the office |
| 21:04.24 | keldwud | and he said the guy sounded exactly like me |
| 21:04.28 | keldwud | thought I was playing tricks on him |
| 21:04.33 | fungus | doh, you are getting replaced... |
| 21:04.37 | keldwud | lol |
| 21:04.43 | keldwud | no, they're getting a senior |
| 21:04.55 | keldwud | because my two seniors don't have enough time to teach me to do what they do |
| 21:05.21 | keldwud | but it was nice to hear that he thought it was me the whole time interviewing for the position |
| 21:05.41 | fungus | only if he interviewed well... |
| 21:05.47 | keldwud | that means that not only could he not tell from the voice, but he couldn't differentiate much between the skillset that the guy projected for the position |
| 21:05.53 | keldwud | and my skillset |
| 21:06.02 | Migs | are you sure that's what it means? |
| 21:06.04 | keldwud | lol |
| 21:06.08 | T4rku5 | so they interviewed someone who sounds like you, has your skill set, and its for a position over yours? |
| 21:06.11 | keldwud | yeah it could mean that he interviewed poorly |
| 21:06.18 | T4rku5 | but they aren't going to just promote you to this senior position? |
| 21:06.25 | Migs | you need to interview for it |
| 21:06.26 | keldwud | no, I still have some things to learn |
| 21:06.30 | Migs | so what? |
| 21:06.45 | Migs | that's what I did when I first started here and didn't know much. The guy above me left after a year, so I jumped on the opportunity. |
| 21:06.58 | Migs | got the job, and got caught up with everything in a month or so |
| 21:07.02 | keldwud | yeah, they want somebody to jumpstart my learning curve |
| 21:07.21 | Migs | it sounds like either they or you don't have much faith in your skillset |
| 21:07.23 | keldwud | I keep asking to do the ceph stuff and the cloudstack stuff |
| 21:07.35 | keldwud | but they want /need it done quickly |
| 21:07.40 | keldwud | so I miss opportunities to learn it |
| 21:07.57 | Migs | tbh, that's your own fault. |
| 21:07.58 | keldwud | and I asked for six months to do the puppet stuff |
| 21:08.06 | keldwud | it *is* my fault |
| 21:08.15 | keldwud | because I don't give myself enough time outside of work to learn it |
| 21:08.20 | Migs | If it's for career potential, it's worth spending an hour a day on your own just learning some of this |
| 21:08.22 | keldwud | I end up spending that time with my daughter instead |
| 21:08.29 | keldwud | or end up wasting my time paying bills |
| 21:08.34 | Migs | autopay |
| 21:08.36 | Migs | autonanny |
| 21:08.38 | keldwud | or doing stupid stuff like driving places to take care of things |
| 21:08.39 | Migs | problem solved |
| 21:08.47 | keldwud | yeah, apparently it's that easy |
| 21:08.49 | Migs | hahaha |
| 21:08.56 | keldwud | so that also makes me stupid |
| 21:08.58 | keldwud | and incompetent |
| 21:09.02 | Migs | I get it. It's tough. But imo it's worth it to just squeeze in some professional development now and then. |
| 21:09.05 | keldwud | since I can't even get stuff done the easy way |
| 21:09.23 | keldwud | so my pace is kind of crawling right now |
| 21:09.37 | keldwud | I guess I'll go take myself where people who don't put enough effort into learning deserve / belong |
| 21:09.51 | keldwud | might as well once $newguy shows up |
| 21:10.02 | keldwud | I don't fight hard enough to keep my daughter |
| 21:10.10 | keldwud | so I don't know why I'm even pretendint to try |
| 21:10.31 | keldwud | if only I was strong enough to push myself harder / more |
| 21:10.37 | keldwud | then things would be okay |
| 21:10.40 | Migs | holy emo |
| 21:10.42 | keldwud | but I'm lazy |
| 21:10.44 | Migs | settle down |
| 21:10.47 | keldwud | well it's true |
| 21:10.57 | keldwud | it *is* my fault that I am where I'm at |
| 21:11.02 | keldwud | I have nobody to blame but myself |
| 21:11.04 | Migs | I was just messing with you |
| 21:11.12 | keldwud | and if I ended up in that position, it can only be due to my own laziness |
| 21:11.19 | keldwud | because that's the only thing I have control over is myself |
| 21:11.29 | keldwud | lol, sorry |
| 21:11.38 | keldwud | you caught me in a sensitive mood |
| 21:11.40 | Migs | seriously, some self-confidence goes a long way. |
| 21:11.52 | keldwud | no, self-confidence gets me into trouble |
| 21:12.00 | keldwud | big trouble |
| 21:12.12 | Migs | What I started doing is just telling myself how awesome I am every day. "Holy snap, Migs, you ROCK!" etc. After several months, I was actually believing it |
| 21:12.28 | keldwud | yeah, my confidence threatens people |
| 21:12.37 | keldwud | and I tend to be vulnerable to those who feel threatened by me |
| 21:12.45 | Migs | I don't think that's confidence |
| 21:13.16 | keldwud | well, when people keep doing everything in their power to undermine your ability to believe in yourself and try and take your kid away |
| 21:13.22 | keldwud | your self confidence tends to take a back seat |
| 21:13.45 | keldwud | especially when every time you display self confidence, hugely negative things that impact your life and your daughter's life happen |
| 21:14.07 | keldwud | gah |
| 21:14.15 | keldwud | how'd you get me here? |
| 21:14.53 | keldwud | back to studying :-p |
| 21:15.01 | T4rku5 | vulnerable to those that feel threatened by you? How does that work? |
| 21:17.13 | keldwud | well, my life contains instability and I tend to expose my instability to those who might feel threatened by me if I were to be successful or confident |
| 21:17.44 | keldwud | in order to make themselves better, they exploit those vulnerabilities |
| 21:18.08 | keldwud | I also don't have a mainstream philosophy or lifestyle |
| 21:18.20 | keldwud | that exposes me to more issues |
| 21:24.24 | keldwud | has anybody been to Odyssey Dance Theatre: Thriller! in provo? |
| 21:24.40 | keldwud | I'm trying to figure out if it is good for a 5 year old or not |
| 21:24.53 | keldwud | i.e. too scary? |
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| 21:27.43 | fungus | My niece went to one of those in SLC when she was 4 or 5. Had to be taken home from screaming. But depends on child. |
| 21:27.54 | unum | ya |
| 21:28.03 | unum | my oldest daughter is afraid of EVERYTHING |
| 21:28.08 | unum | including santa clause and the easter bunny |
| 21:28.14 | unum | so she probably couldn't handle it |
| 21:28.18 | fungus | lol, how unfortunate. |
| 21:28.19 | unum | but it's not really scare |
| 21:28.38 | unum | there is the part with people wearing hockey masks |
| 21:28.44 | unum | at least there was a few years ago |
| 21:28.49 | unum | that was probably as scary as it got |
| 21:28.51 | fungus | right, it's not scary, but the makeup and costumes can be to some children |
| 21:29.03 | unum | that's probably the best way to put it |
| 21:29.19 | unum | the guys dressed up as Jason were actually hilarious |
| 21:29.46 | unum | but I think the costumes might scare my 5 year old |
| 21:30.38 | unum | but she's scare by this costume: |
| 21:30.41 | unum | http://www.amazon.com/Full-Body-Spandex-Suit-Costume/dp/B00354BQE2 |
| 21:30.47 | unum | I should have found it on costume craze :) |
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| 21:42.50 | youtah | hey jsmith .... https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/1292992_10151630578720060_1645871583_o.jpg |
| 21:44.33 | keldwud | thanks for the feedback, guys |
| 21:44.35 | jsmith | youtah: Nice... did you see http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5463/9957220526_4e6742804a_o.jpg ? |
| 21:45.00 | youtah | DUDE!!!! |
| 21:45.02 | youtah | NO!! |
| 21:45.06 | keldwud | I think mine could handle it, but at the same time I don't want to take the chance of causing her to have nightmares |
| 21:45.06 | youtah | Don't tell me you went there |
| 21:45.19 | keldwud | lol jelly |
| 21:45.47 | jsmith | youtah: Left Cusco last night, and flew from Lima to Mexico City this morning |
| 21:45.58 | jsmith | youtah: Now I'm waiting in Mexico City for my flight to Guatemala City |
| 21:46.27 | youtah | unum, the carpet guys are known for beating the crap out of the footboards/molding while using their kickers. It's common, very common, to repaint those when the carpet goes in. |
| 21:46.39 | jsmith | youtah: I've got a few other Peru pictures upload to my stream, like: http://www.flickr.com/photos/websmith/10024072166/ |
| 21:46.39 | youtah | any revenge? |
| 21:46.42 | youtah | wait, don |
| 21:46.47 | youtah | don't answer that |
| 21:46.48 | youtah | I don |
| 21:47.02 | youtah | I don't want to know about any visits from Montezuma |
| 21:47.18 | unum | youtah: we've been stripping those off, repainting everything, recarpetting and then putting them back on |
| 21:47.27 | jsmith | youtah: None whatsoever.... They don't call me "Iron Gut Smith" for nothing |
| 21:47.30 | youtah | Look at that Lightning jsmith !!!! |
| 21:47.35 | youtah | *lighting |
| 21:47.38 | keldwud | gah. I might skip Odyssey Dance Theatre Thriller despite how much I want to go |
| 21:47.44 | youtah | it's soft, yet so illuminated |
| 21:48.02 | youtah | there must have been a faint cloud when you took that shot |
| 21:48.03 | keldwud | two factors, cost is a bit steep for someone of my means, especially combined with the fact that I'm not sure if I should take my 5 year old |
| 21:48.24 | unum | ya |
| 21:48.24 | jsmith | youtah: Yeah, the lighting turned out very well :-) |
| 21:48.34 | unum | it's really bad when you spend all that money and then have to leave 5 minutes into it |
| 21:48.36 | jsmith | youtah: Anyhoo, I'll upload more as I have time... but now I'm off to catch another flight |
| 21:48.46 | youtah | seriously, you can't even plan for lighting like that |
| 21:48.58 | unum | I'm having the hardest time concentrating today |
| 21:48.58 | youtah | L8R jsmith |
| 21:48.59 | keldwud | anybody have any reviews of Utah Regional Ballet's Legend of Timpanogos? |
| 21:49.07 | jsmith | mindjuju: Yes, I remembered to buy you a souvenir from PerĂº.... |
| 21:49.14 | jsmith | runs to his gate |
| 21:49.32 | youtah | goozbach, so they ended up putting in a "premium" padding that has gazillions of hard chunks |
| 21:49.39 | youtah | like, the padding itself is rock hard |
| 21:50.03 | unum | I just want to argue with people |
| 21:50.08 | youtah | so as I walk on my carpet, it reminds me of walking in a tent, and feeling the pine needles and rocks through the tent floor. Uneven and bumpy. |
| 21:50.14 | youtah | no you don't unum |
| 21:50.15 | keldwud | unum: no you don't |
| 21:50.17 | unum | now I understand why they stuck me in an office by myself :) |
| 21:50.18 | keldwud | damnit youtah |
| 21:50.21 | youtah | LOL |
| 21:50.33 | keldwud | unum: you're not by yourself |
| 21:50.35 | keldwud | and it's not an office |
| 21:50.40 | youtah | TWSS |
| 21:50.54 | youtah | that makes no sense, but I've sticking by it |
| 21:51.00 | keldwud | dude |
| 21:51.06 | youtah | TWSS |
| 21:51.11 | keldwud | I played classical for my daughter on the ride up to ogden friday |
| 21:51.21 | youtah | she love it? |
| 21:51.23 | keldwud | and she said "what is this daddy!?" |
| 21:51.26 | keldwud | and she was quiet |
| 21:51.28 | keldwud | dead queiet |
| 21:51.32 | keldwud | so I went to change it |
| 21:51.35 | keldwud | and she said "heeeyyyyy" |
| 21:51.42 | keldwud | CHANGE IT BACK PLEASE |
| 21:51.45 | keldwud | yeah, she loved it |
| 21:51.56 | keldwud | I made her tell me about closing her eyes and what she saw |
| 21:51.59 | keldwud | she said she saw "shows" |
| 21:52.05 | keldwud | and I had her describe them to me |
| 21:52.10 | keldwud | I've exposed her to music before |
| 21:52.17 | keldwud | but now that she's five, she can finally start to appreciate it more |
| 21:52.19 | keldwud | and better |
| 21:52.25 | keldwud | I almost tweeted about it, actually |
| 21:52.29 | keldwud | just for you, youtah |
| 21:52.30 | keldwud | :) |
| 21:52.51 | unum | my wife plays in the Murray Symphony Orchastra I take both my daughters when they have performances |
| 21:52.55 | unum | every few months |
| 21:53.10 | youtah | woot keldwud |
| 21:53.52 | youtah | I have the hardest time remembering who's who in here and what their twitter account is. |
| 21:54.03 | youtah | Luckily Jayce^'s is easy |
| 21:54.05 | youtah | so is mine |
| 21:54.09 | keldwud | yeah I was trying to figure out when UVU Wind Symphony plays at covey arts center |
| 21:54.16 | keldwud | but I couldn't find it anywhere on their website |
| 21:54.18 | youtah | spangborn and utahcon's usernames are easier too |
| 21:54.21 | keldwud | but I can find it on plenty of other websites |
| 21:55.18 | keldwud | hmm.. australian pink flloyd hasn't announced tour dates yet |
| 21:55.24 | keldwud | don't they usually announce them by now? |
| 21:55.42 | keldwud | I thought they usually played between end of september and october sometime |
| 21:56.20 | keldwud | I don't see any USA tour dates :( |
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| 22:06.08 | youtah | that's because they shut down keldwud ... ;-) |
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| 22:30.49 | youtah | http://www.buzzfeed.com/tasneemnashrulla/klu-klux-klan-rally-at-national-park-getting-canceled-actual |
| 22:32.19 | youtah | and then there's this http://theoatmeal.com/blog/playdoh |
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| 22:35.30 | youtah | http://imgur.com/gallery/LO4yypb ROFL |
| 22:41.06 | youtah | ElForesto, welcome! |
| 22:41.48 | ElForesto | Thanks |
| 22:43.48 | youtah | ElForesto, you'll probably recognize a bunch of people in here |
| 22:44.00 | youtah | many also apart of the twittersphere |
| 22:45.01 | ElForesto | Yeah, I see more than a few names I recognize. *waves* |
| 22:45.17 | keldwud | whaaaaaaat? |
| 22:45.20 | youtah | like Jayce^ |
| 22:45.25 | keldwud | pink flloyd experience shut down? |
| 22:45.29 | keldwud | flips a table |
| 22:45.30 | youtah | keldwud used to be a huge twitterer |
| 22:45.34 | keldwud | lolno |
| 22:45.36 | keldwud | never |
| 22:45.52 | youtah | Back in the day, you were rockin' your tweeps |
| 22:45.54 | keldwud | 2006 doesn't count as a year people were using twitter |
| 22:46.00 | rsimpkins | keldwud: pink floyd worked for the government? |
| 22:46.04 | keldwud | -er 8? |
| 22:46.16 | keldwud | yeah 8 |
| 22:46.18 | keldwud | 2008 |
| 22:46.24 | youtah | yeah, I started Aug 2008 |
| 22:46.29 | keldwud | for some reason I thought my twitter account started 2006 |
| 22:47.02 | youtah | remember back in the day keldwud, when you could say "I just tweeted" and no one knew what the freak you were talking about? |
| 22:47.08 | keldwud | okay so I'm trying to decide Utah Valley Symphony Young ARtists Concert or theri Family Christmas Concert |
| 22:47.22 | keldwud | I'm already planning on going to BYU presents Christmas Around the World and a couple nutcrackers |
| 22:47.29 | keldwud | so I'm thinking I can skip the christmas concert |
| 22:47.36 | keldwud | but is the young artists concert any good? |
| 22:48.30 | keldwud | you mention twitter, youtah and the room goes silent |
| 22:48.40 | keldwud | way to go, poopface |
| 22:48.55 | youtah | lol |
| 22:49.00 | youtah | http://imgur.com/gallery/PpCsluM << Oh my |
| 22:50.21 | rsimpkins | I'm going to Washington DC in a month. I sure hope things are open again by the time I get there. I have a sinking feeling they will open up the day after I leave. |
| 22:50.34 | rsimpkins | Waste of money. |
| 22:51.09 | youtah | http://isthegovernmentopen.com/ |
| 22:51.10 | ElForesto | Meh, I give the "shutdown" a couple of weeks, tops. I'd be surprised if it even lasts more than a few days. |
| 22:51.20 | youtah | I was supposed to go to Canyonlands NP this weekend |
| 22:51.22 | rsimpkins | ElForesto: My guess is 32 days. |
| 22:52.23 | youtah | My guess is one week from today. So October 7th. |
| 22:52.29 | rsimpkins | youtah: FoxNews says you can still visit. By using Google Earth. ;-) |
| 22:52.37 | youtah | rofl |
| 22:52.52 | youtah | we were planning on hiking into False Kiva and doing night photos |
| 22:53.01 | rsimpkins | They also call it a 'slimdown' instead of a shutdown. |
| 22:53.25 | RyanE | Shutdown didn't stop the Vets from visiting the memorials... http://legalinsurrection.com/2013/10/wwii-vets-storm-barry-cades/ |
| 22:53.39 | rsimpkins | Yeah, saw that. Good for those guys. |
| 22:53.42 | ElForesto | TO be fair, keeping 80% of people working isn't exaclty halting all business. |
| 22:53.55 | rsimpkins | If we all just behaved ourselves, all the time, and were perfect, this would have never happened! |
| 22:54.02 | rsimpkins | I blame all the imperfect people. |
| 22:54.18 | RyanE | I blame all the people who don't think like me. |
| 22:54.24 | RyanE | who, by definition, are imperfect. |
| 22:54.34 | youtah | ROFL RyanE |
| 22:54.59 | youtah | Just think, we're saving over $1 billion per day, right? |
| 22:55.20 | rsimpkins | No one knows how much we are really saving. |
| 22:55.36 | rsimpkins | 1 billion saved here is another billion spent over there because some family is hurt by this. |
| 22:55.41 | youtah | I saw some estimates at about 10 billion a week |
| 22:55.45 | RyanE | I stole that idea from here, which you guys have likely already seen: http://mindhacks.com/2013/09/21/this-complex-and-tragic-event-supports-my-own-view/ |
| 22:56.04 | youtah | Which basically means we've now flat lined this... http://www.brillig.com/debt_clock/ |
| 22:56.15 | rsimpkins | There is no good way to do this. We just do the best we can with what we have. |
| 22:57.50 | rsimpkins | What I want to know: How many millionaire CEOs don't have a job today because of this? |
| 23:03.49 | youtah | I cannot stop laughing at this http://i.imgur.com/OvJ2hzk.gif |
| 23:04.08 | youtah | "WTF was that for?" |
| 23:04.16 | youtah | rsimpkins, you guys still have goats? |
| 23:04.17 | ElForesto | Dude, how much time DO you spend on imgur? |
| 23:04.32 | youtah | when it gets close to going home, lots |
| 23:05.23 | rsimpkins | youtah: I didn't see them today, but they were out there yesterday. |
| 23:05.38 | youtah | they set up a small pen on the West side |
| 23:05.44 | youtah | which is where I usually see them |
| 23:06.28 | rsimpkins | Yeah, we had an issue with the goats. I saw lawn mowers out there today. I think we've abandoned the goat idea. |
| 23:06.42 | rsimpkins | There aren't enough goats available, from what I gather, to make this work. |
| 23:07.03 | rsimpkins | They are good for maintaining things, but not trimming down tons of grass. |
| 23:08.25 | unum | I have a battery powered mower |
| 23:08.33 | unum | and my wife signed us for blue sky |
| 23:08.51 | rsimpkins | A battery powered mower would get you exactly 12 inches in to our weedscape. |
| 23:09.33 | unum | the three week government shutdown in 1995 cost $1.5 billion |
| 23:09.50 | unum | I have to mow the front and back on different days |
| 23:09.55 | unum | well i could do them a few hours apart |
| 23:10.04 | youtah | So what you're saying is significantly cheaper than the rate we're spending at now |
| 23:10.09 | rsimpkins | unum: This blue sky? http://www.bluesky-adventures.com/ |
| 23:10.45 | rsimpkins | youtah: Calculating the true cost is beyond any one person's ability. |
| 23:10.57 | rsimpkins | youtah: There are just too many variables in play. |
| 23:12.17 | unum | rsimpkins: good guess but it's actually this one: http://www.rockymountainpower.net/bluesky |
| 23:12.55 | rsimpkins | youtah: If you didn't have a salary for one month, what would that cost your family? Each family will be different. Some families might not have much of a problem. Others might face serious financial consequences. |
| 23:14.13 | rsimpkins | Depending on how long it goes, the costs quickly become very complex to determine. What is the cost to your business if you lose a key employee? What if you lost 20% of an entire key department? |
| 23:17.42 | rsimpkins | Cost to local governments in lost tax revenue due to lost tourism business. Cost to maintainence. Cost to recovering assets that have been shut down. The longer it goes, the faster the costs add up. It might cost 500 million in week one, and then 5 billion in week three. |
| 23:18.43 | rsimpkins | The indirect costs are what we can't ignore, is my point. |
| 23:21.24 | keldwud | dude. springville museum of art is open on sundays |
| 23:21.25 | keldwud | score! |
| 23:22.49 | keldwud | okay, got october filled and part of november and december |
| 23:32.51 | youtah | just wants to make photos |
| 23:33.13 | ElForesto | TWSS? |
| 23:36.12 | youtah | Yes! |
| 23:36.19 | youtah | That's the spirit ElForesto! |
| 23:36.54 | ElForesto | I'm also loaded with "your mom" jokes. |
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