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| 15:49.17 | jlp_znc | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8cuihrjLNAo |
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| 16:12.20 | d3c4f | So yeah, everyone that would like to. We are having a Tech-Lunch in Orem today. Meeting at Firehouse Subs in Orem at Noon. |
| 16:14.21 | skrike | "part of the world trade will be escorted down foothill around 11:00, 11:30 going to Camp Willams." |
| 16:14.47 | skrike | youtah: go take pics! |
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| 16:32.35 | fozzmoo | Wow: http://codepen.io/TimPietrusky/pen/eHGfj |
| 16:34.41 | d3c4f | Sorry for the spam. Looks like most of the crowd wants to move todays "tech-lunch-thing" up to the Firehouse Subs in Lehi. So... Lehi, not Orem today. |
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| 16:40.20 | keldwud | lets say I have a bunch of php scripts that pointed to certain hostnames but those hostnames have changed but I don't know where the php scripts are that do it, maybe I could create some "aliases" for those hosts and make them point to the correct IPs or hosts? |
| 16:40.41 | keldwud | i.e. oldhostname => newhostname | $HOSTADDRESS |
| 16:40.49 | keldwud | what tool would I use to do such a thing? |
| 16:40.58 | ldav15 | You mean redirects on the hosting server or something like that? |
| 16:41.48 | ldav15 | In Apache or whatever the http server is. |
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| 16:46.53 | keldwud | that could probably work, yeah |
| 16:46.56 | keldwud | so I'd do it from apache? |
| 16:47.27 | keldwud | although all the addresses are internal |
| 16:47.28 | ldav15 | Yes. From apache. |
| 16:47.37 | keldwud | well, nginx in my case :) |
| 16:47.46 | keldwud | but I get the abstract you're describing |
| 16:47.50 | ldav15 | All right, nginx then. |
| 16:49.57 | jlp_znc | perhaps you just want to add DNS CNAME records? |
| 16:50.12 | keldwud | jlp_znc: that sounds more up my alley, actually |
| 16:50.40 | jlp_znc | do you have your nginx configured for name-based virtual servers? |
| 16:50.56 | keldwud | :( not sure. they haven't given me responsibility over the nginx stuff yet |
| 16:51.01 | jlp_znc | if so, you will need to tweak that config, as well, so they respond to the old names as well as the new |
| 16:51.08 | keldwud | but the guy responsible for the php files is out 'til monday |
| 16:52.16 | keldwud | my first answer was just to sed the files in question |
| 16:52.22 | keldwud | which would be one maybe two lines in bash |
| 16:52.25 | jlp_znc | in nginx config files, there is a "server_name" directive in the "server" config element that needs to contain all of the names the vserver should respond to. even if you don't have "responsibility" for it, you could at least look at it. :-) |
| 16:52.39 | goozbach | fozzmoo: is there a hexidecimal char class in perlre like unto '\d'? |
| 16:52.48 | jlp_znc | yeah, fixing the php source is the right way, but if you're not allowed to touch it, you've got to play nice. |
| 16:53.08 | keldwud | jlp_znc: well responsible was the wrong word :) it's that I haven't gotten to play with it at all therefore I'm absolutely unfamiliar with it :) but now is as good a time as any to step up :) |
| 16:53.12 | jlp_znc | a find, grep, maybe some awk or sed, bam, you're done |
| 16:53.32 | keldwud | ^ |
| 16:53.40 | jlp_znc | if you have independent filesystems on all of your machines, look at parallel-ssh, also |
| 16:53.46 | keldwud | yup, that was my proposal when they mentioned they needed something fixed |
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| 16:54.07 | goozbach | or Jayce^ or harleypig or any other perl nut |
| 16:54.14 | jlp_znc | the CNAME solution is kind of a bandaide fix |
| 16:54.21 | fozzmoo | goozbach: I think so. |
| 16:55.49 | jlp_znc | goozbach: you can match a specific hex character with \xNN, but I don't think there is a generic one. of course, [0-9a-zA-Z] works |
| 16:55.54 | goozbach | just used posix [[:xdigit:]] |
| 16:55.56 | fozzmoo | goozbach: :xdigit: |
| 16:56.05 | goozbach | thanks ya'll |
| 16:56.11 | goozbach | was hoping there was a shorter one |
| 16:56.13 | goozbach | but that's ok |
| 16:56.20 | goozbach | regexes kick my trash nowdays |
| 16:56.45 | goozbach | maybe I need to check my assumption |
| 16:57.08 | goozbach | given an interface name $INTERFACE how would *YOU* get the mac address? |
| 16:57.58 | jlp_znc | linux? ifconfig $INTERFACE | grep HWaddr | awk '{print $NF}' |
| 16:58.11 | goozbach | jlp_znc: yeah linux |
| 16:59.37 | goozbach | here's what I did |
| 16:59.39 | goozbach | ifconfig ${INTERFACE} | grep -oP '(?<=HWaddr )([[:xdigit:]]{2}:){5}[[:xdigit:]]{2}' |
| 16:59.51 | goozbach | nasty little regex |
| 16:59.54 | goozbach | but it's explicit |
| 17:00.08 | goozbach | wish there was a 'what's the mac addr of this iface command |
| 17:00.11 | jlp_znc | that makes my head hurt, but it will work if they move where HWaddr is in the output |
| 17:00.19 | jlp_znc | you could write one in C pretty easily |
| 17:00.20 | keldwud | goozbach: let's write one! :) |
| 17:00.25 | keldwud | can I help? |
| 17:00.28 | jlp_znc | and if you can do it in C, you can do it in perl :-) |
| 17:00.33 | keldwud | lol |
| 17:00.35 | keldwud | no perl! |
| 17:00.38 | keldwud | just c :) |
| 17:00.40 | keldwud | maybe python ;) |
| 17:01.15 | goozbach | jlp_znc: it'll work as long as it stays 'HWaddr<SPACE><MAC>' regardless of where it ends up |
| 17:01.32 | goozbach | the reason I'm even visiting this is it's moved since I wrote this original script |
| 17:02.38 | keldwud | damn. ceo just told me that CNAME is a fix, not a bandaid |
| 17:02.47 | keldwud | guess I won't argue with him :) |
| 17:02.51 | jlp_znc | ceo is wrong wrong wrong :-) |
| 17:02.54 | keldwud | I'll let them handle it from there |
| 17:03.00 | keldwud | I already stated my opinion |
| 17:03.03 | keldwud | and it's in writing |
| 17:03.11 | keldwud | so I can just copy paste it in the future when something goes wrong |
| 17:03.32 | jlp_znc | when you find yourself in a maze of twisty little CNAMEs, all different, you'll wish they had let you do it the right way |
| 17:03.33 | keldwud | yeah, I definitely don't want anything to do with it at this point ;) |
| 17:03.54 | keldwud | lol collosal caves reference :) |
| 17:04.55 | keldwud | *colossal |
| 17:05.01 | keldwud | ADVENT |
| 17:05.10 | keldwud | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colossal_Cave_Adventure |
| 17:05.32 | keldwud | I have yet to beat that :( |
| 17:05.40 | keldwud | tried like mad when I was 8 |
| 17:05.44 | jlp_znc | yeah, I used to love playing adventure on the VAX at school. had a hard copy map and everything. no idea where that ended up. |
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| 17:06.53 | keldwud | yeah, my dad taught me how to draw maps as I played games |
| 17:06.57 | keldwud | it's such a lost art |
| 17:07.03 | keldwud | mapping your way through shit |
| 17:07.14 | keldwud | omg, fucking bard's tale was the worst. you *had* to map things |
| 17:07.34 | keldwud | and even then it was still difficult as hell to figure out where you were so that you could map it properly |
| 17:08.07 | keldwud | oh god... |
| 17:08.31 | keldwud | "i would do it both ways just to be safe." <- he means that we will add some extraneous CNAMEs to include the possibility of a naming convention we're not sure of |
| 17:08.43 | keldwud | i.e. did the numbers include leading zeros or not |
| 17:08.46 | keldwud | wow |
| 17:08.48 | keldwud | this is some scary stuff |
| 17:08.55 | keldwud | *really* hacky |
| 17:09.16 | keldwud | lololol |
| 17:09.20 | keldwud | from CEO "then why don't you put poop01 in there too" |
| 17:10.03 | keldwud | I love my job :) |
| 17:11.07 | keldwud | how much you wanna bet that somebody will have to work on it over the weekend? |
| 17:11.28 | jlp_znc | no doubt |
| 17:11.28 | Migs | http://www.bentobox.io/ |
| 17:11.52 | keldwud | sexy website |
| 17:12.09 | keldwud | would make for a great metro interface, it's already 90% there ;) |
| 17:12.43 | youtah | interesting skrike |
| 17:13.12 | keldwud | could use bentobox.io with http://dungeonsanddevelopers.com/ and you're good to go ;) |
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| 17:13.49 | jlp_znc | puts http://www.bentobox.io/ in his pocket |
| 17:14.13 | keldwud | thanks for the feedback, jlp_znc and ldav15 |
| 17:14.26 | jlp_znc | no prob |
| 17:14.55 | ldav15 | you're welcome |
| 17:15.02 | keldwud | all my seniors are developers |
| 17:18.22 | jlp_znc | lots of ops and devops on this channel. it's a good resource. |
| 17:19.32 | keldwud | yeah, this is the most active I've been in here since 08-ish because I wasn't adminning until just this year, most of the talk was usually above my head and comprehension |
| 17:20.11 | jlp_znc | well, youtah does his best to keep the level down with his images and video links :-) |
| 17:23.51 | youtah | What did I (or didn't I) do? |
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| 17:39.30 | fozzmoo | k |
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| 18:08.06 | fungus | Careful, unkind and offensive link: http://jihawg.com |
| 18:09.49 | keldwud | oh wow. adventure was the game responsible for our ability to save games / states? |
| 18:09.53 | keldwud | that's freaking awesome |
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| 18:18.11 | youtah | Eh, old news fungus .... ;-) |
| 18:18.48 | Migs | http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=JTpXVv-DaBQ |
| 18:19.37 | fungus | I guess I shouldn't be surprised it comes from Idaho. Those people seem to produce more crazies than even Florida. |
| 18:31.21 | youtah | So Breaking Bad won a Guinness World Record for being the highest-rated TV series of all time, citing a Metacritic score of 99/100. |
| 18:31.49 | youtah | And they've been using a Chemistry professor and a DEA agent to help make the scripts as accurate as possible. |
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| 18:35.12 | Migs | critics are usually idiots, though, so I'm not sure it's THAT great an accomplishment |
| 18:35.53 | youtah | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metacritic |
| 18:37.29 | youtah | kind of an interesting read |
| 18:38.12 | youtah | I didnt know it was sold to CNET |
| 18:44.26 | youtah | I think I need a UofU Crimson Red Slurpee |
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| 19:03.45 | mheath | which is totally different than a Cherry Slurpee. We promise. |
| 19:04.29 | youtah | Yes |
| 19:04.31 | youtah | LOL |
| 19:05.09 | joshh | its not better than the wire |
| 19:05.15 | joshh | or homeland |
| 19:05.21 | joshh | or any hbo/sho show |
| 19:05.23 | Migs | False. |
| 19:06.27 | joshh | i admit ive only seen the first 5-6 eps though |
| 19:06.35 | Migs | lol |
| 19:06.37 | Migs | of Breaking Bad? |
| 19:06.45 | jxqz | or Cupcake Wars |
| 19:06.58 | Migs | the show gets better and more interesting with every season, so that's hardly a fair basis |
| 19:07.00 | mheath | surely cupcake wars |
| 19:07.05 | Migs | I've RARELY seen a show like that |
| 19:07.07 | mheath | one can not just abandon breaking bad after enjoying 6 episodes |
| 19:07.27 | Migs | usually shows just get stale...but this last season of BB has been absolutely incredible |
| 19:08.13 | joshh | breaking bad |
| 19:09.21 | mheath | Migs: thats why Breaking Bad is bowing out after this season |
| 19:09.29 | mheath | They know you can't keep up that perfection forever |
| 19:09.53 | Migs | That's usually a wise move when that happens |
| 19:10.20 | Migs | they've really been drawing the season out, though. I'm glad they took that extra year to perfect it. It shows. |
| 19:10.25 | Migs | mid-season 5, that is |
| 19:12.08 | mheath | I was really thinking the same thing |
| 19:12.11 | mheath | about it being dragged out |
| 19:12.21 | mheath | until the second half of season five started, and its all just come together beautifully |
| 19:13.03 | mheath | Thats one thing I like most about the writing on that show. Theres subleties that you don't realize are quite as amazing as they are, until they all come together many episodes later |
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| 19:23.53 | T4rku5 | I have a session this afternoon with my therapist |
| 19:24.01 | T4rku5 | we might just talk about the last episode of BB |
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| 19:27.44 | jxqz | but upcake wars |
| 19:27.50 | jxqz | but, Cupcake Wars |
| 19:27.55 | jxqz | ! |
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| 19:33.38 | keldwud_ | jeremy soule is like the john williams of video game music |
| 19:34.38 | Migs | http://www.lamebook.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/late-night-dilemma.jpg |
| 19:34.43 | Migs | keldwud_: Yeah, I love his music |
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| 20:05.33 | unum | when i run ifconfig I get the following: fe80::fcfd:cfff:fec0:46e5/64 |
| 20:05.49 | unum | does the /64 indicate my network mask, or something else |
| 20:06.12 | unum | oops I thought I had copied the inet6 addr: part |
| 20:08.14 | jlp_znc | I believe it does reflect the network vs. host portion of the address, like the CIDR value for IPv4 (don't know if they still call it CIDR) |
| 20:18.02 | keldwud_ | keepass2 vs keepassX? |
| 20:20.35 | joshh | yes the /64 is the mask |
| 20:20.52 | joshh | and yes its still cidr |
| 20:21.36 | youtah | Well, I guess I will be staying away from Starbucks (not that I ever went there before) |
| 20:21.39 | youtah | http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887324492604579082352323346902.html?mod=e2fb#project%3DSBUXGUNS0919%26articleTabs%3Dinteractive |
| 20:21.46 | youtah | I dont think that map is accurate. |
| 20:23.15 | Jayce^ | it isn't |
| 20:23.23 | youtah | http://www.opencarry.org/?page_id=103 << their source |
| 20:23.52 | youtah | Texas is a Non Permissive Open Carry State?!?!?!?! |
| 20:23.57 | youtah | Texas?!?! |
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| 20:26.02 | joshh | amazing that a coffee shops "gun policy" matters to anyone enough to be in the wsj |
| 20:27.24 | youtah | I think that a private (non government) company (like Starbucks) should be able to restrict or do whatever they want. |
| 20:27.40 | joshh | sure |
| 20:27.49 | youtah | Just now where did I put my mountain dew |
| 20:27.51 | youtah | it's missing |
| 20:27.58 | youtah | checks trash |
| 20:28.05 | joshh | but in the real world, how does something like that even come up? i just don't get it |
| 20:28.32 | youtah | Who drank my entire mountain dew and then threw away the cup while I was sitting here at my desk the whole time?! |
| 20:30.27 | youtah | Ah, Jayce^ they're referring to a Loaded open carry |
| 20:30.55 | youtah | so where concealed weapon permit holders are allowed to have a loaded open carry, a non-licensed can still open carry, but with the two actions away. |
| 20:32.43 | joshh | open carry seems crazy to me |
| 20:32.51 | joshh | you'll either scare people, or be a target |
| 20:33.06 | T4rku5 | I agree with joshh |
| 20:33.28 | T4rku5 | an attacker would know exactly who to take out to gain control of a room |
| 20:33.37 | T4rku5 | who to surprise first |
| 20:33.44 | joshh | i support concealed for non-retards, but i can't think of any actual good reason for open |
| 20:34.38 | Jayce^ | joshh: the good reason is because it applies to everything from taking it from the shop to your car, and having it out at a range |
| 20:35.06 | Jayce^ | me, I don't want to open carry in public, that's my choice, but I'm fine with others that feel they want to |
| 20:35.25 | Jayce^ | it also is a big deal when cops get really #$@$ about what they define as "open" |
| 20:35.39 | Jayce^ | such as somebody who bends over and you can see the imprint.. |
| 20:35.53 | Jayce^ | means they can't get technicality-slapped because of crap like that |
| 20:36.31 | joshh | it is true that common sense isn't how the world works, unfortunately |
| 20:42.45 | mheath | too true. |
| 20:43.04 | mheath | I wish I could open carry. I don't really have the option :( |
| 20:43.11 | joshh | why do you wish that? |
| 20:43.15 | joshh | and why not the option |
| 20:43.22 | mheath | Because I'm active duty military |
| 20:43.31 | mheath | and its not allowed on post (where I both live and work) |
| 20:43.42 | joshh | at least you get to pack an m16 at work i guess |
| 20:43.51 | mheath | Uh...nope |
| 20:43.53 | joshh | should be enough gun manliness every day :P |
| 20:43.56 | mheath | not unless you're deployed. |
| 20:44.30 | mheath | Thats been part of the controversy over the Ft Hood (and now, Navy Yard) shootings |
| 20:44.55 | joshh | i haven't closely followed that |
| 20:44.58 | mheath | Military personnel could have probaly easily subdued the assailants, but you are prohibited from having firearms on post |
| 20:45.20 | fozzmoo | Thank you Bill Clinton for removing the trust we used to have in our military. |
| 20:45.29 | joshh | that's a clinton rule? |
| 20:45.35 | mheath | I mean, yeah, they have M16s/M4s for practicing at the range, and the ones that basic training privates carry around with them |
| 20:45.38 | fozzmoo | First thing he did in 1993. |
| 20:45.50 | mheath | but those are all highly controlled, especially the ammo |
| 20:46.18 | mheath | They're only handed live ammo for those weapons when they're kneeling on the range, ready to fire |
| 20:46.19 | joshh | ya |
| 20:47.05 | joshh | hmm, snopes says false on clinton |
| 20:47.10 | mheath | yeah |
| 20:47.16 | mheath | I was going to say,I don't think thats true |
| 20:47.37 | mheath | I'm pretty sure that rule predates him considerably |
| 20:49.39 | romanovic | It would be great if the military would offer some firearm carry / safety course according to whatever standards they choose, beyond whatever civilian requirements there are, and allow soldiers who qualify to carry concealed on post |
| 20:50.29 | mheath | I agree. But there would also a lot of potential concerns/issues/etc that would need to be addressed, too. |
| 20:50.43 | mheath | That policy would make a lot of people uncomfortable |
| 20:51.14 | joshh | we need to cut down the amount of crazy psycho killers in society |
| 20:51.19 | joshh | controlling guns themselves can't work |
| 20:51.28 | mheath | I mean, what happens the first time someone uses this new policy to more effectively carry out their shooting spree? |
| 20:51.49 | mheath | People will be upset, blame the 'permissive' carry rules, etc |
| 20:52.11 | mheath | joshh: I agree with you, entirely. |
| 20:52.30 | mheath | The problem is that the military has a lot of oversight by entities that really don't understand the military |
| 20:52.36 | joshh | or we should just go back to the wild west system where people could just shoot eachother and sometimes get hanged or shot by a deputy |
| 20:52.38 | mheath | That throws a lot of kinks into things |
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| 20:54.03 | joshh | all the people who love open carry could move to a place like tombstone, and try to be first to throw down whenever a conflict started |
| 20:54.18 | stderr- | Open carry is dumb. |
| 20:54.31 | stderr- | <- 2nd amendment supporter / combat vet. |
| 20:54.48 | joshh | valid opinion confirmed |
| 20:54.53 | mheath | stderr-: outstanding, what branch were you in? |
| 20:54.57 | stderr- | Army. |
| 20:55.15 | mheath | stderr-: awesome. MOS? If you don't mind me asking. |
| 20:55.19 | stderr- | 19D. |
| 20:55.29 | stderr- | We've had this conversation before, mheath, when you were in the Navy / AF / Marines |
| 20:55.32 | stderr- | I can't keep track anymore. |
| 20:55.53 | mheath | stderr-: I was prior service Navy. I am currently an active duty Army officer. |
| 20:56.03 | mheath | And yeah, I know, I have a history. |
| 20:56.18 | joshh | switch to the coast guard |
| 20:56.39 | mheath | stderr-: actually headed to a recon related position. Though I'm sure a 19D wouldn't consider it real recon :D |
| 20:57.33 | stderr- | I'm in my 30s and ETSed close to a decade ago. I'm long removed from pissing matches re: a soldier's particular mission. |
| 20:58.20 | mheath | stderr-: you're a better man than a lot of similar former cav scouts I've met, then :D |
| 20:58.32 | mheath | Pretty sure those guys get buried wearing a stetson |
| 20:58.53 | stderr- | well Cav is still the greatest branch by far. I just don't argue about it. :P |
| 20:58.58 | mheath | haha |
| 20:59.00 | mheath | there we go |
| 20:59.43 | mheath | stderr-: for what its worth, it was a solid 7 years ago that I was in the Navy, so you have a dang good memory for random internet conversations |
| 21:00.18 | mheath | Or maybe just a good memory for obnoxious 17 years old who won't shut up on IRC, I guess |
| 21:00.28 | stderr- | a little bit of both, probably. |
| 21:00.35 | mheath | heh |
| 21:01.09 | joshh | i remember irc stuff from like 15 years ago |
| 21:01.16 | joshh | its crazy |
| 21:01.22 | mheath | Plus theres always logs, immortalizing you forever :D |
| 21:01.28 | neybar_work | I'm lucky to remember what happened this morning. |
| 21:01.59 | fozzmoo | What happened this morning? |
| 21:02.15 | mheath | stderr-: Thank you for your service. I'm now a 74A, living the dream, and loving it. |
| 21:02.16 | neybar_work | fairly certian I got dressed. /me checks for pants. |
| 21:02.21 | joshh | someone got a dirty look in starbucks for carrying? |
| 21:02.49 | mheath | If you're the type that makes it super obvious you're carrying, you probably deserve dirty looks. Just saying. |
| 21:03.03 | mheath | (I'm assuming we're talking concealed carry?) |
| 21:03.05 | joshh | which is open carry |
| 21:03.16 | mheath | oh, nevermind. |
| 21:03.30 | mheath | I've known the type that 'conceal' carry but then make a show of it. I hate that. |
| 21:04.36 | jlp_znc | so, like, walking around with a T-shirt that says "never mind the dog, beware of owner" with a picture of a person silhouette in the cross hairs would get you some anxious looks in starbucks? |
| 21:04.51 | mheath | Probably depends on where that starbucks is :D |
| 21:06.07 | stderr- | mheath: CBR (or NBC, if you're oldschool) ? |
| 21:06.47 | mheath | stderr-: CBRN-E is the current acronym :D Yeah. |
| 21:07.12 | mheath | I'm going to be doing Stryker CBRN Reconnaisance. |
| 21:07.32 | mheath | I don't know if they had the old Foxes yet when you were in, but they have a newer, snazzy, Stryker based replacement for those. |
| 21:08.08 | mheath | Because we're not currently fighting anyone where hardcore chem recon assets are really needed, they're often used as traditional recon assets. |
| 21:10.01 | mheath | OK, I think my #utah quota is exhausted for a bit. Have a good night, ladies and gentlemen. |
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