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| 14:40.49 | jxqz | ~asimov harleypig_ |
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| 14:46.39 | jxqz | linkedin thinks I know bash really well |
| 14:46.43 | jxqz | heh |
| 14:47.35 | jxqz | not as well as GR, but I have no likes for that |
| 14:47.50 | jxqz | I guess GR is not an employable skill |
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| 14:55.39 | keldwud | if I normally run a command as sudo and I want to run it with time |
| 14:55.44 | keldwud | do I do sudo time sudo $command? |
| 14:55.48 | keldwud | or just sudo time $command? |
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| 15:14.17 | keldwud | so if some of the alternatives produce an error when I run update-java-alternatives, do none of them get updated? or do they all get updated except the ones that produce errors? |
| 15:48.07 | skinner1 | sudo -u time $command |
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| 15:55.13 | youtah | jxqz, GR? |
| 15:57.15 | youtah | what skinner1 said.... just sudo time command should work |
| 16:00.54 | youtah | so. OH MY GOSH |
| 16:01.02 | youtah | We are at Season 5 Episode 3 now |
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| 16:03.15 | opapo | If used memory is high and the buffered memory is low and no process is using more than 5% memory where can I look for memory usage on a CentOS box? |
| 16:03.36 | youtah | what have you tried using? |
| 16:03.50 | youtah | top? |
| 16:03.55 | opapo | yes |
| 16:04.22 | opapo | I looked at netstat as well |
| 16:07.23 | youtah | how about some good ole ps'ing? |
| 16:11.17 | fungus | `free -m` and look at the line for "-/+ buffers/cache:" |
| 16:11.38 | fungus | That's a more realistic view of memory usage. |
| 16:12.13 | youtah | have you used nmon? |
| 16:12.18 | youtah | pretty cool little tool |
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| 16:15.11 | opapo | I tried ps, but didn't see anything out of the ordinary (to my untrained eye) |
| 16:15.24 | opapo | I will look at `free -m` |
| 16:18.33 | fungus | when looking at top, you also need to pay attention to the "cached" memory that is right below "buffers". This memory is counted as used just like buffers. |
| 16:20.25 | fungus | `free -m` just does the math for you to see what is really used. |
| 16:26.11 | fugue88 | Do you mean `free -t`? |
| 16:32.01 | fungus | nope, `free -m` does the -/+ buffers/cache just fine. |
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| 17:02.01 | unum | http://www.cracked.com/article_20621_6-foreign-parenting-practices-americans-would-call-neglect.html |
| 17:04.49 | keldwud | why sudo -u instead of just sudo? |
| 17:11.45 | youtah | http://fstoppers.com/the-most-awkward-wedding-photography-video-ever |
| 17:12.10 | skrike | ugh I keep seeing that linked and I dont want to watch it |
| 17:12.18 | youtah | lol |
| 17:12.19 | youtah | do it |
| 17:12.23 | youtah | DOOOOO EEEEEEEEEEET |
| 17:12.28 | youtah | YOU CAN DO EEET! |
| 17:12.58 | skrike | I usually turn down weddings specifically for this reason, its freaking awkward and stressful |
| 17:13.04 | skrike | Ive made a few exceptions for close friends |
| 17:13.09 | youtah | ditto |
| 17:13.10 | keldwud | unum: number 6, that one got me in trouble at work |
| 17:13.19 | keldwud | I would check on her every 30 - 45 minutes |
| 17:13.23 | keldwud | and give her activities to do |
| 17:13.39 | keldwud | and she would socialize with people that walked through the building because I put her in a public area |
| 17:13.58 | keldwud | and people freaked the fuck out that there was a 5 year old coloring in her coloring book all by herself and having conversations with strangers |
| 17:14.13 | keldwud | some people called my bosses and my HR department with their concerns |
| 17:14.19 | skrike | haha |
| 17:15.09 | keldwud | "Not only do European criminals not kidnap babies or their high-end strollers willy-nilly, European police are totally used to seeing kids out on the street unattended." |
| 17:16.09 | keldwud | if anybody was going to press the matter with me and threaten that harm would come to my child from rapists and kidnappers, I would have countered with "WHAT? THERE ARE SEX OFFENDERS AND KIDNAPPERS WORKING IN THIS BUILDING!?!?" as loud as I possibly could |
| 17:16.24 | unum | we had one here for a while |
| 17:16.29 | unum | actually we probably had several |
| 17:16.39 | unum | my employer became well known for hiring felons |
| 17:16.43 | unum | most places won't do that |
| 17:17.43 | unum | my wife got in trouble for taking our daughter to work, but that was when she was younger and noiser |
| 17:18.02 | keldwud | yeah, I didn't even bring my daughter into the office |
| 17:18.06 | keldwud | I just kept her busy |
| 17:18.10 | keldwud | and even had "recess" time for her |
| 17:18.11 | unum | recently a woman got in trouble for locking her kid in her room while she was at work |
| 17:18.20 | keldwud | ok that's different |
| 17:18.27 | keldwud | that is leaving your child alone and not being present |
| 17:18.31 | skrike | I like to keep my kids in small cages with a hamster bottle full of water |
| 17:18.41 | keldwud | europeans in this article are in the immediate vicinity |
| 17:18.42 | skrike | sometimes they get carrots |
| 17:18.44 | unum | skrike: this situation was pretty close |
| 17:19.05 | skrike | unum: thats sad |
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| 17:30.33 | romanovic | My grandmother (from Norway) told us she would put her infants out in the cold to nap (#5 in that article). Told my wife we ought to do that with our children, out on the back patio in winter, but she is not very keen |
| 17:32.22 | romanovic | there was a similar article a couple months back http://www.huffingtonpost.com/christine-grossloh/have-american-parents-got-it-all-backwards_b_3202328.html |
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| 17:56.48 | keldwud | diff technet.microsoft.com microsoft.com/hk/technet |
| 17:57.51 | keldwud | and support.microsoft.com |
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| 18:09.38 | skrike | anyone know someone that works at urban lounge? |
| 18:09.42 | skrike | fuck smith tix |
| 18:10.41 | skrike | ticket 20 dollars, [12:06:37 PM] jeff holmes: 13.00 convienience, 3.25 order processing, 3.25 will call pick up = 19.50 almost the cost of a ticket in fees TO BUY IT OVER THE INTERNET. |
| 18:10.56 | keldwud | wow |
| 18:11.10 | keldwud | I know lots of people that work the shows and doors at urban |
| 18:11.14 | keldwud | but it has been a while |
| 18:11.20 | keldwud | and I don't know if any of them are working this show |
| 18:11.27 | keldwud | I always just pay at the door |
| 18:11.57 | skrike | yeah, Id rather do that but Im worried about it being sold out |
| 18:11.58 | keldwud | or get on facebook and see if anybody is selling tickets |
| 18:11.59 | skrike | wondering if I can buy them today |
| 18:12.12 | keldwud | there are usually a bunch of people with tickets available |
| 18:14.21 | jlp_znc | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:15.36 | romanovic | Internet orders are so resource intensive when compared to buying from a human being. Smith tix uses supercomputers with AI to process the orders, and the machines have formed a union and are demanding their own usage fees |
| 18:15.59 | romanovic | s/Smith tix/Maybe Smith tix/ |
| 18:17.07 | keldwud | what percentage of your time should be spent working on your tools? |
| 18:17.24 | keldwud | or conversly, what percentage of time *shouldn't* be spent working on your tools? |
| 18:21.55 | jlp_znc | http://act.freepress.net/sign/Internet_sti_love/?akid=4441.9999256.D2aYfn&rd=1&t=4 <- SAAAAAAAVE the Internet! |
| 18:22.28 | jlp_znc | keldwud: depends on how good your tools are already. if your tools are really good, then you have more time to spend improving them.. if they're not good, you spend more time fire fighting. |
| 18:23.05 | jlp_znc | unfortunately, when you need the time to work on your tools is the time when you don't have it to spare. that's when you go out and hire a toolsmith. |
| 18:41.19 | jxqz | youtah: general relativity |
| 18:45.38 | jxqz | needs a new set of screwdrivers |
| 18:56.24 | levi | So sleepy. |
| 19:32.18 | jxqz | girl recruiters keep looking at my linkedin profile. Maybe I'm just too wicked handsome for linkedin |
| 19:46.37 | keldwud | pics or it didn't happen |
| 19:46.56 | keldwud | http://linkedin.com/jxqz |
| 19:46.58 | keldwud | rite? |
| 19:53.24 | youtah | uh oh |
| 19:53.26 | youtah | what happened? |
| 19:53.30 | youtah | what did I do? |
| 19:54.22 | jxqz | www.linkedin.com/pub/justin-findlay/1/545/852/ |
| 19:54.40 | youtah | So, speaking of Linked In.... my friend in Utah County is looking for a job. He has done PM/PM (Project Management and Project Management) for Software/tech companies. |
| 19:55.07 | jxqz | both PM AND PM!? |
| 19:55.07 | jxqz | wow |
| 19:55.14 | youtah | lol, yes |
| 19:55.33 | jxqz | what's the difference between project and project? |
| 19:55.35 | youtah | he has a CS degree from the U, has done Software QA and Software Automation in the past. |
| 19:55.43 | youtah | oops, lol |
| 19:55.47 | youtah | Product and Project |
| 19:56.42 | jlp_znc | jxqz: I hope that's not you in the basket on your linked in photo |
| 19:56.53 | youtah | lol |
| 19:58.13 | youtah | I have a Sales Guy from China that sells fireworks requesting to link on linked in |
| 19:58.46 | youtah | used to do pyrotechnics along with utahcon back in the day |
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| 20:09.37 | levi | This coursera course on 'Introduction to Mathematical Thinking' is pretty interesting. |
| 20:20.53 | keldwud | I've gone through the first week on that course |
| 20:20.56 | keldwud | been meaning to complete it |
| 20:21.14 | keldwud | are you just starting it now? |
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| 20:33.57 | levi | Yeah. I'm not sure if I'll get through the whole thing. If you want to swap notes or chat about stuff, I'm up for that. |
| 20:39.09 | jxqz | aw, he left |
| 20:43.34 | youtah | http://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-lJ3ppIJbEEk/UiLcrjy10YI/AAAAAAACwQo/yQJXppQ1VsE/w600-h363-no/Holy+%24%23%21t++Sheer+Terror+land+slide+in+Taiwan+jWc4kkL.gif |
| 20:44.27 | youtah | Here's the video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8wWuH7MIeCA |
| 20:47.34 | tristanbob_w | amazing! I am glad that boulder didn't roll again |
| 20:50.01 | youtah | no kidding! |
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| 21:05.56 | jxqz | does anyone else think of motorcycles as 'flatulators'? |
| 21:06.27 | Jayce^ | no... no that hasn't ever been my association... |
| 21:07.13 | jxqz | as in, 'Wow, that mufflerless motorcycle has seriously free, magnanimous flatulence' |
| 21:09.15 | youtah | no |
| 21:09.46 | jxqz | the sounds they both make are often strikingly similar |
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| 21:10.07 | levi | I don't think of it as flatulence, but I find those kinds of motorcycles deeply annoying. |
| 21:12.55 | youtah | So who all in here wanted some dutch ovens? |
| 21:13.11 | youtah | if I am going to bug my cousins to start casting some, we like to do a couple |
| 21:13.21 | Jayce^ | as well as neybar_work :) |
| 21:13.35 | jalbretsen | Ah, I forgot how fun desktop support is until my employer asked me to start doing it in addition to sysadmin duties |
| 21:13.51 | jalbretsen | "My voicemails won't play on the computer" |
| 21:13.55 | youtah | hands jalbretsen a strong drink |
| 21:14.07 | jalbretsen | Walk up, turn of volume |
| 21:14.10 | jalbretsen | *up |
| 21:14.17 | Jayce^ | youtah: wait, that coke isn't diet?! |
| 21:14.24 | youtah | lol |
| 21:14.27 | youtah | ROFL |
| 21:14.47 | youtah | http://open.spotify.com/track/0iGvrpmtUjTCVfcWa7SIJq << Jayce^ check out this Mighty Mouse remix of Disintegration (you too neybar_work ) |
| 21:14.51 | jalbretsen | luckily it's Mac desktops, so I won't be cursing as much as when I supported XP desktops |
| 21:15.18 | youtah | Naw.... XP is a breeze! |
| 21:15.37 | jxqz | "did you try turning it off and on again" |
| 21:16.20 | jalbretsen | jxqz, yes I've been tempted to put a picture of Moss from the IT crowd on my door, even though it was the other guy that said that |
| 21:16.36 | youtah | Wife just IM'd me. Asked if I ate one of the cookies out of the pantry. Nope! Looks like my eldest son just got busted. |
| 21:31.20 | ldav15 | Maybe it was the Cookie Monster. |
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| 21:46.11 | neybar_work | youtah: that track rocks |
| 21:59.04 | jlp_znc | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M6SFMUSCaX8 at about 1:12 to the end shows the white car after the run-in with the mountain |
| 22:01.37 | jlp_znc | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yL9mX4Hbc2Q <- bill cosby on children taking a cookie |
| 22:17.24 | youtah | yeah, I love it neybar_work .... you've heard the original right? |
| 22:17.48 | youtah | the Music Video is um, it doesn't show anything, but I'd still tag it as NSFW just in case |
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| 22:52.56 | jxqz | is trying to find out which vacuum to get |
| 22:53.11 | jlp_znc | how much money do you want to spend? |
| 22:53.14 | jxqz | I've never seen amazon reviews so meticulous before |
| 22:53.41 | jlp_znc | unless you want to spend $600+, it doesn't really matter what you get, they're all crap. |
| 22:54.04 | jxqz | maybe because people who like vacuums like to be detailed |
| 22:54.48 | jlp_znc | if you *do* want to spend $600+, I hear the dyson units are hard to beat |
| 22:54.58 | joshh | check reviews for burr coffee grinders or those super expensive toasters |
| 22:55.07 | joshh | vaccuum snobs are nothing |
| 22:55.11 | jxqz | haha |
| 22:56.44 | youtah | I think we paid like $310 for our Dyson |
| 22:56.56 | jxqz | when I was a kid my mom found a vintage sunbeam toaster at DI that engaged by pushing the bread down slightly, after which it took it from there by itself |
| 22:57.11 | jxqz | I'm not sure how it worked, but I wish we would have kept it |
| 22:57.23 | youtah | can't wait to get home and watch more Breaking Bad episodes. I am at S5 E3 now. |
| 22:57.45 | youtah | we're hoping to get 4 episodes in by tonight. |
| 22:58.02 | joshh | i need to watch more of it |
| 22:58.08 | joshh | i've only seen about half of s1 |
| 22:58.24 | youtah | oh yeah |
| 22:58.27 | joshh | so far from that much the dea brother guy is my favorite |
| 22:58.31 | youtah | Hank |
| 22:58.34 | youtah | He's awesome |
| 22:58.38 | joshh | he's fantastic |
| 22:58.48 | youtah | Although, I am #TeamSaul |
| 22:58.49 | joshh | but i can't stand the high school meth kid |
| 22:59.01 | youtah | but you wont meet Saul until S2 I believe |
| 22:59.07 | youtah | Jesse? |
| 22:59.11 | joshh | ya |
| 22:59.21 | youtah | All of the characters change |
| 22:59.32 | youtah | they all, completely, change |
| 22:59.34 | joshh | he just doesn't seem realistic |
| 22:59.40 | youtah | it gets better |
| 23:00.10 | jxqz | ~spoiler |
| 23:00.10 | infobot | i guess spoiler is HARRY DEVELOPS ANATHEMA OF CINNAMON!!!!1 |
| 23:00.33 | youtah | lol jxqz |
| 23:00.37 | youtah | ~spoiler |
| 23:00.38 | infobot | spoiler is, like, HARRY KILLS!!!!1 |
| 23:01.57 | jxqz | I had a friend who planned a getaway car, grabbed a first release HP#7, read the final pages |
| 23:02.17 | jxqz | went to bookstores and shouted "HARRY KILLS VOLDEMORT!" |
| 23:02.29 | jxqz | only to run back to the car |
| 23:02.33 | jxqz | and getaway |
| 23:02.48 | jxqz | wish I could have been there |
| 23:03.05 | youtah | I still can't get over when Dexter killed Ironman |
| 23:03.41 | jxqz | me and my wife are literary snobs who think we don't need emotional suspense to enjoy a good story |
| 23:04.07 | youtah | So you'd enjoy Tuesdays with Morrie |
| 23:04.09 | joshh | it helps the experience a lot to not know things, imo |
| 23:04.24 | joshh | but a spoiler doesn't actually ruin a story |
| 23:04.29 | youtah | agreed |
| 23:04.39 | jxqz | a good story anyway |
| 23:04.48 | youtah | actually read the wikipedia pages |
| 23:04.52 | joshh | i knew a few asoiaf spoilers before i started, but still liked it, and other surprises were awesome |
| 23:05.05 | youtah | but it doesn't tell how things are done, etc. |
| 23:08.00 | jxqz | joshh: I'm betting appliance snobs are nothing compared to mac snobs |
| 23:08.02 | jxqz | :) |
| 23:08.23 | joshh | they're probably the same people |
| 23:08.27 | youtah | ^^ |
| 23:08.28 | jxqz | haha |
| 23:08.43 | joshh | if you buy a 500 dollar chrome toaster, you aren't using an acer laptop |
| 23:09.00 | youtah | http://www.24saltlake.com/side-b/health-cost-utahs-dirty-air-infographic/ << Since January, we now have the most polluted air in the nation. |
| 23:09.09 | youtah | ROFL joshh |
| 23:14.32 | jxqz | http://www.hulu.com/watch/335494 |
| 23:15.09 | jxqz | got to have the best stuff |
| 23:15.27 | jxqz | that's actually what turned me off from applying to backcountry |
| 23:15.54 | jxqz | I'm not a wilderness equipment enjoyer |
| 23:16.06 | jxqz | I guess that's their business though :) |
| 23:30.13 | fozzmoo | Interestingly, Cache Valley has really bad air pollution and it has very little to do with vehicles or power plants and a lot to do with emissions from agriculture. |
| 23:35.40 | jxqz | cache valley also has bad mountain and weather patterns pollution-wise |
| 23:39.10 | youtah | http://imgur.com/gallery/sgO7ihW |
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