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| 15:33.20 | Migs | anyone interested in a web dev job? (primarily PHP, jQuery...) |
| 15:33.37 | fozzmoo | s/dev/scripting/ |
| 15:33.52 | fozzmoo | :) |
| 15:34.52 | Migs | I know we put this on other sites, but I'm not seeing them http://utahjobfinder.com/Job/9764213/1414 |
| 15:35.01 | Migs | maybe they didn't...which would suck |
| 15:36.02 | Migs | we haven't really gotten great candidates so far |
| 15:36.44 | Migs | tbh, I'm not really expecting anyone extremely awesome. Developers don't gravitate toward school districts, even though we have an awesome workplace |
| 15:37.31 | T4rku5 | Migs, they gravitate to awesome compensations |
| 15:37.38 | T4rku5 | alas |
| 15:37.43 | T4rku5 | I feel your pain (sometimes) |
| 15:37.51 | Migs | yeah, that's what I just told my boss. We need to emphasize the perks of the job |
| 15:38.02 | Migs | even the simple things like a free laptop, free cell phone, etc. |
| 15:38.09 | Migs | stability |
| 15:38.13 | T4rku5 | PTO |
| 15:38.18 | Migs | YES. |
| 15:38.20 | fozzmoo | "A free cell phone, so we can call you... all. the. time..." |
| 15:38.22 | T4rku5 | training coverage |
| 15:38.25 | T4rku5 | lol fozzmoo |
| 15:38.31 | Migs | It's ridiculous how much PTO I get |
| 15:38.36 | Migs | I can't even use it all in one year |
| 15:38.42 | Migs | well I guess I CAN, but I don't |
| 15:38.46 | T4rku5 | sounds like a tough problem to have |
| 15:39.03 | fozzmoo | Migs: Sounds like you need to drop a job description in #uphpu |
| 15:39.20 | T4rku5 | agreed, that's a good place for PHP stuff |
| 15:39.26 | Migs | oh, good call |
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| 16:25.13 | youtah | http://i.imgur.com/gPOERWB.jpg |
| 16:26.07 | skrike | http://imgur.com/gallery/4u1KN |
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| 16:32.40 | jlp_znc | Migs: have you thought about looking at students (like an internship)? |
| 16:33.48 | Migs | that seems to be the kind of resumes we're already getting |
| 16:34.49 | youtah | we make our interns wear red shirts... just to remind them their disposable. |
| 16:35.37 | youtah | (i'm just kidding btw (or am i?)) |
| 16:37.32 | Migs | I'd prefer someone with some expertise under their belt |
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| 16:42.52 | Q_Continuum | youtah: Have you gotten rid of yours yet? |
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| 17:52.42 | youtah | http://i.imgur.com/9TYcYrn.png |
| 17:52.49 | youtah | Q_Continuum, naw, we like our interns |
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| 18:16.25 | Q_Continuum | No, I mean *YOUR* red shirt ;-P |
| 18:17.24 | jlp_znc | heh heh |
| 18:17.45 | jlp_znc | I think youtah is actually wearing a red shirt today. he's not at his desk right now so I can't verify. |
| 18:18.28 | jlp_znc | darn, guess the red shirt was yesterday |
| 18:31.07 | youtah | it was a pink shirt yesterday |
| 18:31.27 | youtah | I love the smell of NAND |
| 18:31.30 | youtah | in the morning |
| 18:31.35 | youtah | licks the NAND |
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| 18:32.22 | harleypig | Needy And Needlessly Dirty |
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| 18:33.18 | joshh | ya, that's not really working |
| 18:33.22 | joshh | sorry man |
| 18:33.37 | harleypig | Sodium and Neodymium ? |
| 18:33.40 | joshh | youtah: what is your company, if you don't mind sharing? |
| 18:33.40 | youtah | ROFL, loving these harleypig |
| 18:34.07 | harleypig | joshh: :P |
| 18:34.13 | harleypig | *Someone* likes them |
| 18:34.27 | youtah | afk... |
| 18:34.58 | joshh | he likes everything |
| 18:35.14 | harleypig | I'm not in a position to complain |
| 18:35.20 | joshh | nothing dampens his irc spirits |
| 18:40.15 | jlp_znc | joshh: youtah and I are at Fusion-IO |
| 18:40.24 | joshh | ya, he msgd me |
| 18:40.35 | jlp_znc | ahh, I didn't think it was a secret :-/ |
| 18:40.52 | joshh | the interns thing made me curious |
| 18:41.12 | jlp_znc | we have a couple in our department... I'm not sure how wide spread they are. |
| 18:41.17 | joshh | our interns make me feel very old |
| 18:41.37 | jlp_znc | you're telling me... I *am* very old. :-) |
| 18:42.03 | skrike | how old? |
| 18:42.24 | jlp_znc | 48... old enough to remember watching the Apollo 11 moon landing. |
| 18:42.26 | joshh | im probably about 12 years older than most interns |
| 18:42.33 | skrike | you got me beat. |
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| 18:44.11 | joshh | but i feel 40 years older |
| 18:44.23 | jlp_znc | heh |
| 18:44.46 | skrike | I sit near our call center, theres lots of freshly graduated high school kids all the time in and out of here. Its... very aging at times. |
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| 18:45.14 | jlp_znc | I really felt it a few weeks ago when I was working graveyard shifts due to having to communicate regularly with a guy in Italy. did that for a week and man, I don't know how I survived it. |
| 18:45.58 | youtah | BACK! |
| 18:46.11 | youtah | takes a bite out of his Mint Chocolate Brownie |
| 18:46.15 | jlp_znc | skrike: well, you don't have to be much older than high school grads to feel that way. I was in my mid- to late-20s when I worked at BYU and thought most of the student population was extremely young. |
| 18:46.55 | youtah | joshh, I am about 11 years older than most interns... |
| 18:47.57 | skrike | youtah: do you work over at the cottonwood offices? |
| 18:48.11 | youtah | jlp_znc ... skrike knows too much |
| 18:49.02 | youtah | yes, in fact, there are several of us in this room that are at the mouth of BCC |
| 18:49.14 | Migs | question: When you hear "school district web developer job" do you automatically associate that with low wages? |
| 18:49.22 | jlp_znc | yep |
| 18:49.25 | youtah | yes |
| 18:49.25 | Migs | I think that's what's happening |
| 18:49.47 | jlp_znc | about the only worst thing you could say would be "entry level position" |
| 18:49.49 | Migs | if you had to ballpark guess, what would you expect a school district to pay a mid-to-senior web developer? |
| 18:50.16 | jlp_znc | mid-to-senior, I would think around $45k-$55k. |
| 18:50.23 | Migs | good heavens... |
| 18:50.28 | Migs | yeah, that's the problem then |
| 18:50.31 | skrike | 50-60k |
| 18:50.47 | jlp_znc | it's the school district/public employee thing that bites you |
| 18:51.01 | skrike | youtah: Im at the mouth of parleys. |
| 18:51.02 | youtah | for a school district? (not taking into account the mid-senior) I, honestly, imagine an 19yo kid with no formal education working on the website because the high school councilor knew he knew HTML. |
| 18:51.03 | Migs | how do I get around this? We're just getting awful applicants |
| 18:51.08 | jlp_znc | I would think mid-$60k for a private sector mid-level web developer |
| 18:51.32 | Migs | we hired one guy at $70k |
| 18:51.44 | skrike | migs: post the salary. I hate it when jobs dont post salary, I usually dont apply because I assume they cant afford me, or want to lowball me |
| 18:51.52 | Migs | most of our developers make around $100k |
| 18:51.58 | jlp_znc | up to maybe $75k for senior. web developer just doesn't bring the money any more. |
| 18:51.59 | Migs | that's the problem. It's negotiable. |
| 18:52.11 | skrike | then post a range |
| 18:52.11 | Migs | And we put that. "Salary commensurate with experience" or whatever crap |
| 18:52.26 | Migs | except then my boss added "...within the scope of Weber School District salary schedules." |
| 18:52.29 | Migs | so that probably screwed us |
| 18:52.32 | jlp_znc | heh, "salary commensurate with experience" generally means we want to low-ball you. |
| 18:52.36 | skrike | yeah |
| 18:52.41 | skrike | Utah is notorious for that |
| 18:52.55 | Q_Continuum | Migs: Then a link needs to be provided to the salary schedules. |
| 18:53.08 | Migs | good point. I'll put one up. |
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| 18:53.23 | Q_Continuum | Or just copy the relevant parts into the posting. |
| 18:53.27 | jlp_znc | last recruiter that said that to me, I responded with "I'm currently at $NNNk. if you can't exceed that by a sizable percentage, I've probably already wasted too much time responding to you." |
| 18:53.29 | rsimpkins | Migs: I wouldn't want to work for a school district due to concerns about potential layoffs. Your boss is the public. |
| 18:53.45 | Migs | oh layoffs? |
| 18:53.52 | joshh | no school district has anything web related that's even close to decent. why would they be hiring a "senior" dev? |
| 18:53.53 | Migs | that doesn't happen here. Nor can anyone get fired. |
| 18:53.56 | Migs | it's both great and annoying |
| 18:54.01 | joshh | they should just contract out whatever they need |
| 18:54.02 | Migs | some people here SHOULD be fired |
| 18:54.08 | Migs | pffft |
| 18:54.16 | Migs | you haven't seen Weber School District then!!! |
| 18:54.28 | Migs | well, you're still right |
| 18:54.36 | rsimpkins | Migs: I don't know if you are aware of this... but public schools don't focus very much attention on critical or high-order thinking skills. Thus, we have a mass-educated populace that is fairly poor at making decisions, understanding arguments, etc. I wouldn't want to bet my job on their ability to think. *shrug* |
| 18:54.55 | Migs | rsimpkins: I'm in the education field. Of course I'm aware. :) |
| 18:54.57 | joshh | also, nobody senior is going to work at a school district in a stifling regulated environment for 45k |
| 18:55.04 | rsimpkins | Migs: I was joking. ;-) |
| 18:55.17 | joshh | neither would anyone junior in their right mind |
| 18:55.17 | Migs | so was I |
| 18:55.20 | Migs | joshh: So you would assume it's 45k too? |
| 18:55.52 | rsimpkins | Migs: I would guess 60k-80k DOE. |
| 18:55.54 | joshh | utah, and schools? i wouldn't be surprised if they offer 25k |
| 18:55.54 | joshh | im surprised that you're able to eat |
| 18:56.17 | Migs | hahahaha |
| 18:56.22 | joshh | i'd expect a principal to make 80k, and everyone else to make 30 |
| 18:56.36 | Migs | hmmm |
| 18:56.40 | rsimpkins | I wonder the same thing... What do people think about jobs and Adobe. Do we low ball? |
| 18:56.52 | joshh | i'd guess adobe pays ok |
| 18:56.55 | rsimpkins | We just built a 100M dollar campus, so I'm hoping that says something. |
| 18:56.55 | Migs | yeah. What about an Adboe web developer job? |
| 18:56.58 | Migs | what would you assume they pay? |
| 18:56.59 | jlp_znc | I wouldn't expect adobe to low-ball |
| 18:57.14 | joshh | id expect adobe to be some of the best large company jobs in utah |
| 18:57.16 | rsimpkins | Migs: I don't know how much we pay them, but I'm guessing 100-120k DOE. |
| 18:57.18 | jlp_znc | mid-to-senior anywhere from $60-70k |
| 18:57.20 | Migs | we can't get away with building $100M campuses, because then taxpayers get mad |
| 18:57.42 | jlp_znc | but benefits at adobe are probably pretty good, too. |
| 18:57.44 | Migs | jlp_znc: That's about what you said for the school district |
| 18:57.52 | rsimpkins | Benefits are awesome. |
| 18:58.17 | jlp_znc | Migs: actually, I said 12:51 <jlp_znc> I would think mid-$60k for a private sector mid-level web developer |
| 18:58.29 | rsimpkins | The downside is you have to be willing to sell your soul to corporate America. For the 1000 people who work here, it was an easy choice. :) |
| 18:59.01 | Tene | Migs: I heard several bizarre stories from the oregon department of transportation, when I was teaching a class there. They have absurd restrictions when driving department vehicles, because of citizen complaints. Stuff like "can't smile or look too happy", "can't park on the same street within so many blocks of a grocery story or liquor store", "no singing along with music". |
| 18:59.12 | jlp_znc | Migs: 45-55 was for a school district (any public sector, actually) |
| 18:59.18 | Migs | ah okay |
| 18:59.22 | joshh | rsimpkins: are there a lot of ops people at the utah location? |
| 18:59.30 | Migs | in some of the smaller school districts, that would definitely be the case, I know |
| 18:59.43 | Migs | Davis School District is the richest one in Utah, and they pay well |
| 18:59.58 | rsimpkins | joshh: Depends how you define "ops." But something like 25% of staff here are in eng/ops related roles. |
| 19:00.07 | skrike | Ive never been entirely sure what parts of adobes business are in lehi so Ive never looked into jobs there. |
| 19:00.08 | Migs | I guess I'm senior level, and they pay me in the 80s |
| 19:00.19 | Migs | but I get raises every year |
| 19:00.28 | joshh | rsimpkins: ops as in deploying services, running servers/network, etc |
| 19:00.47 | Migs | I think the web dev at Davis earns 6 figures, though. But he's contracted. |
| 19:01.00 | joshh | skrike: i think it's mostly omniture with a smattering of other stuff, but that's just an assumption |
| 19:01.03 | Migs | I don't know, it's on utahsright.com somewhere |
| 19:01.04 | rsimpkins | joshh: In that case, I work in the ops department. I think we have about 300 or so people in our dept. About half of those are in Utah. |
| 19:01.17 | rsimpkins | joshh: It has been a while since I've seen the reports. |
| 19:01.23 | joshh | interesting |
| 19:01.45 | rsimpkins | joshh: For example, on the sys admin team I am on - for one product - we have 14 people. |
| 19:01.49 | jlp_znc | Migs: are you a web developer? or more like ops staff? |
| 19:02.12 | rsimpkins | joshh: We probably have 30-something sys admins, and 20-something net admins. |
| 19:02.15 | joshh | jlp_znc: he's a professional slacker and irc linker |
| 19:02.23 | jlp_znc | oh, like youtah? |
| 19:02.34 | joshh | similar, except youtah is probably more productive |
| 19:02.35 | Migs | jlp_znc: Web developer |
| 19:02.45 | Migs | and we're trying to hire another web dev. Finally, some help around here. |
| 19:02.54 | jlp_znc | well, you're already breaking my assumptions, then. :-) |
| 19:03.10 | Migs | http://www.linkedin.com/jobs2/view/7277050?trk=vsrp_jobs_res_name |
| 19:03.33 | Migs | that's our ad. From what everyone's saying though, it could be revised |
| 19:03.39 | jlp_znc | just redirects me back to the home page |
| 19:03.55 | joshh | rsimpkins: do a lot of people travel between there and SF regularly? |
| 19:04.19 | rsimpkins | Migs: Someone should proof-read that a little more carefully. |
| 19:04.28 | Migs | what's wrong with it? |
| 19:04.29 | rsimpkins | joshh: We have people going all over the world regularly. |
| 19:04.51 | jlp_znc | oh, hey, Migs, do you know Brent VanZweden? |
| 19:04.54 | rsimpkins | joshh: Lots of back-and-forth between SJO/SFO and SLC. But plenty more locations as well. |
| 19:04.56 | Migs | no |
| 19:05.08 | jlp_znc | wait, are you davis county or weber county? |
| 19:05.11 | Migs | weber |
| 19:05.16 | jlp_znc | ahh, never mind, then. |
| 19:05.57 | Migs | http://utahjobfinder.com/Job/9764213/1414 |
| 19:06.06 | Migs | for some dumb reason, HR only posted the job on utahjobfinder, and teachers-teachers.com |
| 19:06.10 | Migs | I just barely put it on LinkedIn |
| 19:06.34 | jlp_znc | weird. I can't see it on linked in. when I try to go to it, it throws me back to the home page. |
| 19:06.46 | jlp_znc | I even found it in a search and clicked directly on it |
| 19:06.56 | jlp_znc | fusion firewall evilness, maybe? |
| 19:07.30 | Migs | well, it's basically the same listing as that utahjobfinder post |
| 19:07.57 | jlp_znc | that one I can see just fine |
| 19:07.59 | Migs | meh, we're not getting anyone good until we rethink how we're approaching this, and erase the stigma against school districts |
| 19:08.10 | joshh | there's a thing called teachers-teachers.com? |
| 19:08.16 | joshh | weird |
| 19:08.22 | Migs | yes, and by Utah law jobs have to be posted on there |
| 19:08.39 | Migs | I don't know why, but they do. And it's absolutely the worst site, especially since they did a redesign that doesn't even allow you to link directly to the job ad |
| 19:08.58 | Migs | it's all Javascripty now. It's like their web developer discovered Ajax and now tries to do everything in it |
| 19:09.03 | Migs | without thinking about how much it screws up the usability |
| 19:09.30 | jlp_znc | two years experience required? I think you should bump that up to five to get more mid-level people. |
| 19:09.46 | Migs | then we'll get no one |
| 19:09.52 | Migs | cuz school district |
| 19:10.10 | jlp_znc | well, you won't get the highschool students, at least. |
| 19:10.16 | Migs | true |
| 19:10.30 | Migs | Honestly, I'm not sure why my boss decided to lower the standards that much. |
| 19:10.33 | jlp_znc | have you talked to any of the local community colleges and/or universities? get into their job fairs. |
| 19:10.40 | Migs | ugh, I don't have time for that |
| 19:10.48 | Migs | although we should |
| 19:10.50 | jlp_znc | don't you have an HR department? |
| 19:10.57 | jlp_znc | sounds like something they should already be doing |
| 19:10.58 | Migs | Yes. But they suck. |
| 19:11.00 | jlp_znc | ahh |
| 19:11.03 | Migs | I know it is. But they won't and don't. |
| 19:11.13 | joshh | why don't they have high school students do it for extra credit |
| 19:11.25 | Migs | they're already extremely busy not using the apps we build for them, and handwriting everything, manually filing, double-entering... |
| 19:11.28 | jlp_znc | we actually have senior engineers and hiring managers go to job fairs to recruit |
| 19:11.30 | joshh | again, it's not like they're actually going to get awesome web stuff |
| 19:11.36 | Migs | hahahaha |
| 19:11.48 | Migs | joshh: What kind of web stuff do you think we actually do, out of curiosity? |
| 19:12.05 | Migs | if you had to guess, what sort of non-awesome stuff do I do in my day-to-day job? |
| 19:12.35 | Migs | this could easily be another negative stigma |
| 19:13.45 | joshh | making horrid ugly sites that are impossible to find anything useful on? |
| 19:13.59 | joshh | not that i ever need to be looking at a school district site anyway |
| 19:14.04 | Migs | and that's what I do all day? |
| 19:14.25 | joshh | no, you relax on irc all day |
| 19:14.30 | Migs | besides taht |
| 19:14.34 | Migs | and browse reddit |
| 19:14.36 | joshh | ya |
| 19:14.56 | joshh | damn, mouse batteries just died |
| 19:19.27 | T4rku5 | Migs -- any responses yet? |
| 19:24.36 | jlp_znc | T4rku5: Migs said earlier that he wasn't getting any good candidates... mostly very junior people applying. |
| 19:25.26 | Migs | T4rku5: Not from #uphpu, no |
| 19:25.40 | Migs | and we just talked about how the mere fact of being a school district kind of damages the rep |
| 19:26.36 | Migs | I don't think people realize the technological innovation that can and does occur in education, or how high our salaries and get. It's basically associated with some teacher making some dumb-looking web site with tons of animated clip art |
| 19:26.43 | Migs | *can get |
| 19:27.21 | T4rku5 | Migs, I grow frustrated any time I engage in a discussion regarding salaries and compensation for educators and those associated with them |
| 19:27.28 | T4rku5 | the people on top are raping the system |
| 19:27.44 | Migs | I don't entirely disagree. But it's not entirely their fault either. The unions screw it up. |
| 19:27.54 | T4rku5 | the teachers are using their own blood as resources because they can't get what they NEED to do the job they feel in their heart they need to do |
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| 19:28.29 | Migs | and for the most part, many teachers actually get paid a little better than most people realize |
| 19:28.32 | T4rku5 | and then we throw millions upon millions at government and pro athletics |
| 19:28.44 | Migs | I remember there was a 20/20 a few years ago that "exposed" teacher salaries. |
| 19:28.54 | Migs | And they were interviewing all these teachers complaining about their "awful" 120k salaries |
| 19:29.02 | T4rku5 | Did you watch the show on ABC, Teachers? |
| 19:29.03 | Migs | elementary teachers! |
| 19:29.40 | Migs | sounds familiar |
| 19:29.47 | Migs | http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0280330/?ref_=sr_1 this one? |
| 19:29.56 | Migs | I don't think I did |
| 19:30.08 | T4rku5 | no, it was on just a few weeks ago |
| 19:30.12 | Migs | or this one http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0494188/?ref_=sr_6 |
| 19:30.13 | T4rku5 | funded by Bill Gates and his wife |
| 19:30.19 | T4rku5 | Queen Latifa was the 'host' |
| 19:30.26 | Migs | oh, I have no idea |
| 19:30.31 | Migs | what was the gyst? |
| 19:30.37 | T4rku5 | not a comedy |
| 19:30.44 | T4rku5 | it followed four teachers through a whole year |
| 19:30.55 | T4rku5 | a high school AP History teacher |
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| 19:31.26 | T4rku5 | a math teacher who was assigned 2nd grade and had an illiterate student, and he had to teach her to read |
| 19:31.44 | Migs | our salaries are pretty transparent http://utahsright.com/salaries.php?city=weber_schools&query= |
| 19:32.05 | T4rku5 | a junior high teacher teaching low-income area kids math, and the principal came up with some new technique to teach them (360 math) |
| 19:32.09 | Migs | T4rku5: This sounds interesting |
| 19:32.30 | T4rku5 | and then lastly, an elementary school teacher who has to use computers in her classroom, and how she and the students have to adjust |
| 19:32.33 | T4rku5 | it was really really cool |
| 19:32.48 | T4rku5 | It made me break out in a fit of allergies at the end :) |
| 19:33.13 | T4rku5 | my mother was a special ed teacher for many years, my wife was (and will be agian) a kindergarten teacher |
| 19:33.28 | Migs | I want to be a teacher someday |
| 19:33.35 | Migs | part-time |
| 19:36.50 | joshh | i would like teaching, but i'd constantly worry about the rules and liability |
| 19:37.11 | joshh | its dangerous for a man these days |
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| 19:38.51 | joshh | can't give a kid your phone number or email, can't stay after class with a kid unless another adult is there to protect you against accusations, get arrested if a porn popup appears on the computer, sued if you show a PG movie, etc |
| 19:39.20 | joshh | plus only making 20k, if in utah |
| 19:40.40 | joshh | also, 50 kids in the class if in utah |
| 19:41.02 | Migs | the average beginning teacher salary in Utah is about $33k |
| 19:41.14 | Migs | low is $29k |
| 19:41.18 | joshh | same thing, you're starving either way |
| 19:41.38 | Migs | I don't think I've known any teacher whose support doesn't work, too |
| 19:41.45 | Migs | well, not K-12 at least |
| 19:42.06 | Migs | I mean, I know it happens obviously. I just personally don't know any. |
| 19:43.13 | joshh | i have a lot of thoughts about teachers and how things should be, as im sure everyone else does too |
| 19:43.21 | joshh | but don't have time to get into it now heh |
| 19:44.33 | joshh | but basically, teachign is somethign i would really enjoy, if i didn't have to walk on eggshells and i could afford it |
| 19:45.21 | Migs | I want to be an online teacher |
| 19:45.29 | Migs | seems like that'd be safer |
| 19:45.46 | Migs | and the job market for them is growing constantly |
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| 19:52.00 | joshh | i wouldn't like that |
| 19:52.16 | Migs | I don't want to be around kids all day |
| 19:52.22 | Migs | I just want to teach them |
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| 19:52.44 | joshh | i like kids, but i don't dare to interact with any besides my own, for similar reasons |
| 19:54.02 | jlp_znc | I teach sunday school (well, primary). satisfies my desire for teaching. |
| 19:57.25 | Migs | I really don't like other people's kids |
| 19:57.32 | Migs | I'm sure your kids are great, but I'd probably not like them at all |
| 19:57.50 | Migs | I'm kind of leaning more toward wanting to teach adults, tbh |
| 19:58.05 | joshh | high school would be my ideal teaching level |
| 19:58.09 | jlp_znc | you might get along with my kids pretty well... my youngest is 15. :-) |
| 19:58.38 | joshh | i used to hate all kids before i had my own, now i like them all |
| 19:58.46 | jlp_znc | kids are pretty nifty |
| 19:58.59 | joshh | they're funny |
| 20:00.08 | joshh | but ya, i've been around schools/teachers quite a bit lately, since my oldest just barely started kindergarten |
| 20:00.23 | joshh | it's in CA though, and there's a max limit of 22 kids per class |
| 20:00.42 | joshh | the teacher is still pretty frazzled, but she holds it together ok |
| 20:01.39 | joshh | but i've been signing up for PTA, tech related volunteering, etc, and it's fun to be involved |
| 20:29.05 | Migs | http://www.ijreview.com/2013/09/79233-shocking-video-17-year-old-shoots-71-year-old-head-bicycle/ :( |
| 20:41.12 | keldwud | when you guys wipe drives in bulk, how do you do it? |
| 20:41.43 | jlp_znc | big-ass shredder |
| 20:41.50 | jlp_znc | oh, wait, that was at raytheon |
| 20:41.52 | goozbach | keldwud: dariks boot and nuke |
| 20:42.04 | goozbach | and a big ol' disk chassis |
| 20:42.14 | goozbach | so as to wipe as many as possible at a time |
| 20:42.44 | jlp_znc | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yd_O7-rqcHc |
| 20:43.03 | Migs | web site idea. Online permission slip site. Teacher enters/uploads students in their class. Associates parent emails with each. Parents get sent a notice when a new field trip is coming up, and asks them to sign. Parents can log in with Facebook, Google, whatever, and digitally sign. |
| 20:43.29 | keldwud | well I've only a usb 2.0 fixture that holds up to two drives at a time |
| 20:43.35 | keldwud | I've heard of dban and shredder |
| 20:43.37 | Migs | what's the best way to make money off this? I don't want to charge, because teachers are broke as joshh pointed out earlier and won't want to pay. Ads kind of suck, and probably wouldn't bring in too much revenue |
| 20:43.40 | keldwud | but not boot and nuke |
| 20:44.03 | jlp_znc | I think dban is what we used to use at a previous employer |
| 20:44.14 | keldwud | I'm guessing with boot and nuke, I'd need to make sure that my desktop's harddrives aren't connected? |
| 20:45.01 | jlp_znc | Migs: problem with that is legality of a digital signature. school could still get sued if something happened to their kid. "well, I didn't know that just by clicking I was actually giving my child permission to go stick his head in that alligator's mouth" |
| 20:45.43 | Migs | I'm not worried about that. That's just a matter of getting the legalese right. |
| 20:46.26 | Migs | and I'll pass on the handling of that to the school |
| 20:46.31 | jlp_znc | I suppose you could give out a hard copy "opt in to the web site for field trip permission slips" at the beginning of the school year |
| 20:46.53 | jlp_znc | are you targeting it at teachers or at schools? |
| 20:46.58 | Migs | both |
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| 20:47.10 | Migs | teachers at first, but eventually provide a framework for a school to deploy it |
| 20:47.51 | jlp_znc | I think you would have to charge the teacher... can't really charge the parents or students. just give them a good value add and make it cheap. |
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| 20:48.26 | Migs | I doubt anyone would pay for it then |
| 20:48.29 | jlp_znc | or look for a corporate sponsor |
| 20:48.34 | jlp_znc | "donate" button? |
| 20:48.41 | Migs | To do permission slips now, they just make a bunch of copies, and hand it to the student. |
| 20:48.52 | Migs | That's a piece of cake |
| 20:49.08 | Migs | they get them back, shove them in a folder, and forget about it |
| 20:49.15 | jlp_znc | so what's the value add? print a report of who's turned them in, etc.? |
| 20:49.24 | Migs | well, just for the paperless value. But that only goes so far. |
| 20:49.43 | Migs | I'm planning to keep this a simple app that hopefully works largely in auto-pilot |
| 20:49.50 | jlp_znc | last time I went on a field trip, we had to have all of the permission slips with us in case of accident or injury |
| 20:50.10 | Migs | the teacher would usually just keep a record of that. |
| 20:50.15 | jlp_znc | got to have something physical to show the ER or EMT with permission to treat |
| 20:50.19 | Migs | They could certainly print out reports of emergency numbers and stuff, though |
| 20:50.59 | jlp_znc | it's harder with kids since they can't consent themselves. obviously, life saving care would be given regardless, but still nice to have permission to treat available. |
| 20:51.33 | romanovic | Maybe schools ought to go digital like the DOD did - create an electronic document system where paper forms are still used, but they are scanned in after being signed, and can be re-printed on demand! Wait, I think that uses more paper... |
| 20:51.52 | fozzmoo | http://imgur.com/mERNllk |
| 20:53.49 | jlp_znc | http://imgur.com/a/SsaOO |
| 21:03.59 | keldwud | anybody ever use hdparm? |
| 21:05.07 | keldwud | to erase disks |
| 21:05.07 | jxqz | yes |
| 21:05.10 | jxqz | no |
| 21:08.03 | keldwud | :) |
| 21:08.50 | jxqz | bust out yer pirate orthographies mateys because the day of pirate elocution is almost upon us! |
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| 21:18.08 | jxqz | ~seen sjansen |
| 21:18.18 | infobot | sjansen <~sjansen@ip65-46-62-182.z62-46-65.customer.algx.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #utah, 42d 22h 20m 15s ago, saying: 'If I had to do address verification today, I'd look seriously at http://blog.mailgun.com/post/free-email-validation-api-for-web-forms/'. |
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| 21:59.34 | d3c4f_work | XO SIP is down again |
| 21:59.44 | d3c4f_work | 20+ hours in the last 2 months |
| 21:59.49 | d3c4f_work | unbelievable |
| 22:00.01 | levi | Jeez. |
| 22:00.36 | d3c4f | friday they had the SECOND fiber cut in 2 years |
| 22:00.36 | d3c4f | 10 hours of downtime... :S |
| 22:01.24 | jlp_znc | don't they have an SLA with you? I know that doesn't help you get back the customers who were affected, but there should be some monetary compensation if they can't deliver service. |
| 22:01.47 | jlp_znc | even if it's just "for every hour of downtime, we get a day of free service" or something like that. |
| 22:02.00 | youtah | <joshh> jlp_znc: he's a professional slacker and irc linker |
| 22:02.00 | youtah | <jlp_znc> oh, like youtah? |
| 22:02.00 | youtah | <joshh> similar, except youtah is probably more productive <<< WAIT Wuh....? |
| 22:02.17 | jlp_znc | more productive at finding links |
| 22:02.25 | youtah | good links |
| 22:02.29 | youtah | I only find good links |
| 22:02.36 | youtah | isn't that right dremex_work? |
| 22:02.38 | jlp_znc | riiiight |
| 22:03.27 | youtah | oh man, my mouth hurts so bad. They just finished the root canal they started, and finished cementing the crown |
| 22:03.41 | d3c4f | we totally have an SLC |
| 22:03.42 | d3c4f | SLA |
| 22:04.03 | jlp_znc | d3c4f: you need to read it and figure out how they're going to compensate you for this downtime |
| 22:04.10 | d3c4f | but who gives a shit about 10-20 hours of "lost service", that would be like $500 |
| 22:04.27 | youtah | You can see my pain induced delirium tweets |
| 22:04.34 | d3c4f | we loose like $20k+/hr of downtime. They won't cover that |
| 22:05.01 | jlp_znc | it should not be a linear "$x dollars off our bill for the service you didn't give us" |
| 22:05.12 | jlp_znc | it should be n * $x dollars |
| 22:05.33 | d3c4f | it's still basically nothing |
| 22:05.33 | d3c4f | $3k maybe |
| 22:05.33 | jlp_znc | for some value of n > 1 |
| 22:05.38 | jlp_znc | unless whoever signed your side of the sla didn't do their job |
| 22:05.39 | d3c4f | doesn't even begin to compensate |
| 22:05.44 | youtah | $ converted into lbs of bacon |
| 22:05.50 | d3c4f | mmmm bacon |
| 22:06.20 | d3c4f | the expensive part isn't the service, it's the usage |
| 22:06.40 | d3c4f | and even that is nothing compared to lost opportunity / employee wages / overhead |
| 22:06.52 | youtah | so $3/lb of good bacon, and you were down for 10 hours, at $20k each hour.... that's like 66.6K pounds of bacon |
| 22:07.00 | jlp_znc | I agree that it will not fully compensate you for the lost income, but it's better than nothing. |
| 22:07.11 | jlp_znc | and you know not to go with XO next time your contract is up for renewal |
| 22:07.41 | d3c4f | It's up in about a month. we started working on new providers a couple weeks ago |
| 22:07.54 | jlp_znc | youtah: that's a lot of bacon |
| 22:07.57 | d3c4f | so that's the light at the end of the tunnel |
| 22:08.07 | youtah | get it? |
| 22:08.10 | jlp_znc | d3c4f: run far and fast from XO and don't look back |
| 22:08.12 | youtah | light? tunnel? fiber? |
| 22:08.15 | youtah | *sigh* |
| 22:08.25 | d3c4f | lol |
| 22:08.37 | d3c4f | not if you are using XO |
| 22:08.55 | youtah | lol |
| 22:09.56 | youtah | UTOPIA was telling me about how one of their fiber lines were hanging too low the other day, and a semi truck got caught on it and they drove underneath |
| 22:10.06 | d3c4f | wth??? |
| 22:10.55 | youtah | Yes |
| 22:11.28 | youtah | Someone, that is higher up in the chain of command, lives in my new neighborhood |
| 22:11.40 | youtah | I was begging him to buy Veracity |
| 22:12.15 | jlp_znc | beg him to finish the build out in murray city! |
| 22:12.15 | jlp_znc | or at least in my neighborhood |
| 22:12.40 | youtah | speaking of fiber... pashdown has sure made me want his xmission 1G/1G plan |
| 22:12.44 | d3c4f | xmission / Utopia would be nice to have everywhere |
| 22:12.52 | d3c4f | Pashdown is the man |
| 22:12.55 | jlp_znc | indeed |
| 22:12.57 | youtah | ^ |
| 22:13.33 | youtah | i heard the news, and suddenly my 60/60mbps seemed so.... dialup-ish. |
| 22:14.41 | jlp_znc | ~pashdown++ |
| 22:19.44 | youtah | I've sent 3 emails to support for veracity over the last week, and they haven't responded to a single one |
| 22:20.01 | youtah | I think they're blocking several ports |
| 22:37.05 | jlp_znc | go go gadget veracity! |
| 22:37.16 | jlp_znc | what ports do you think they're blocking? |
| 22:37.47 | jlp_znc | it would be fairly easy to test... I can open those up on my linode (simple echo server or something like that) and you can try connecting. |
| 22:40.43 | Migs | "Walter White is a bigger monster than anyone in Westeros. (I need to do something about that)." - George R. R. Martin |
| 22:40.51 | Migs | http://grrm.livejournal.com/337511.html |
| 22:42.56 | youtah | Not out, just in, with ports 22, 80, 443, 587, 3389, 5900 |
| 22:43.09 | youtah | well, not just in |
| 22:43.09 | jlp_znc | oh sure, I wouldn't be surprised about that at all |
| 22:43.34 | jlp_znc | I'd also expect them to be blocking at least 25 out |
| 22:43.40 | youtah | havent checked that |
| 22:45.03 | Migs | https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-crYyKvoeUbU/UjimLb_MaAI/AAAAAAAAJ4c/Uf7j88FPqPo/w426-h930/8063bf57d661dfa9fd30867dc6017e25.jpg |
| 22:49.57 | d3c4f | and here I was feeling good about myself because sometimes I remember to put the toilet seat back down. :P |
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| 22:51.19 | Migs | Al Gore's awesome, but I would've given her the Nobel Peace Prize |
| 22:51.33 | Migs | then again, she only saved 2500 infants and kids. Al Gore has SAVED US ALL! |
| 22:51.45 | d3c4f | lol |
| 22:52.09 | Migs | "AMC is planning to break up the final episode of Breaking Bad into 60 annual one minute episodes, to begin in 2013 and end in 2073" |
| 22:52.11 | Migs | hahahahaha |
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| 22:52.54 | youtah | lol Migs |
| 22:52.55 | KingMichael | hello |
| 22:52.59 | Migs | Greetings |
| 22:54.17 | youtah | Migs, just clicked on that link. Stupid Al Gore. |
| 22:55.02 | youtah | I'm at Season 4 Episode 10 now for Breaking Bag |
| 22:55.12 | youtah | s/Bag/Bad/ |
| 22:55.24 | Migs | oh, that's it? |
| 22:55.30 | Migs | oh man...you're in for a treat |
| 22:55.33 | youtah | I started just a couple of weeks ago |
| 22:55.39 | Migs | it's an awesome show, isn't it? |
| 22:55.44 | youtah | It's amazing |
| 22:55.50 | d3c4f | I need to get caught up. I've been trying to get caught up on It's always sunny though. :S |
| 22:55.53 | Migs | I wish I could back to the beginning, not knowing anything about the show, and just watch it straight through |
| 22:56.02 | Migs | I do need to catch up Sunny, too |
| 22:56.02 | youtah | My wife told me she didn't care for it at all. Needless to say, by about the end of Season 1, I was not allowed to watch it without her. |
| 22:56.06 | jlp_znc | I'm at season 1, episode 1, myself |
| 22:56.11 | Migs | yeah |
| 22:56.20 | Migs | my wife is hooked, too |
| 22:56.46 | youtah | Jesse was just asked by someone, to go somewhere, where he doesn't want to go. |
| 22:56.49 | Migs | season 4 is amazing, but I can't believe how incredible season 5 has been |
| 22:57.50 | youtah | Jayce^ & fozzmoo .... I like your Ubuntu / Mac setup |
| 22:58.00 | mheath | Ooh, Breaking Bad |
| 22:58.18 | youtah | yeah |
| 22:58.20 | youtah | just wow |
| 22:58.26 | youtah | just.... so..... wow. |
| 22:58.29 | stderr- | season 4? |
| 22:58.31 | stderr- | you have no idea. |
| 22:58.51 | youtah | My wife is SO pissed off that Heisenberg has pretty much killed Walter |
| 22:58.53 | Migs | hahaha I know. He doesn't, does he? |
| 22:59.00 | Migs | oh gosh |
| 22:59.07 | Migs | wait until you get to last Sunday's episode then |
| 22:59.11 | stderr- | hehe. |
| 22:59.17 | Migs | I'm STILL an emotional wreck over it |
| 22:59.38 | youtah | Apparently there was a "phone call" that everyone is talking about non-stop on twitter, etc |
| 22:59.39 | Migs | sorry, getting ahead of myself |
| 22:59.42 | jxqz | oh yeah, wait until that one thing happens |
| 22:59.45 | Migs | yeah |
| 22:59.46 | d3c4f | Breaking Bad was really weird for me to watch, as I had just finished watching Malcom in the Middle about a week prior. :S |
| 22:59.49 | Migs | no spoilers |
| 22:59.50 | jxqz | BIG TWIST COMING!!1 |
| 22:59.52 | Migs | hahahaha |
| 22:59.56 | Migs | ugh |
| 23:00.05 | Migs | the whole show is a twist, so no surprise there |
| 23:00.15 | jxqz | IT TWISTS ITSELF INSIDE OUT |
| 23:00.26 | youtah | My guess is that Walt goes into the witness protection program at the very end, and gets put as a father for Malcom in the Middle |
| 23:00.32 | youtah | it's the only way it can/should end. |
| 23:00.40 | jxqz | AND THEN you're watching a show about how martialn meterology |
| 23:00.42 | Migs | yeah, that joke has been told ad nauseum |
| 23:00.44 | KingMichael | Braking bad |
| 23:00.47 | Migs | still funny, though |
| 23:00.57 | KingMichael | lol |
| 23:01.01 | youtah | it's the only way |
| 23:01.15 | d3c4f | Bryan Cranston does love to rock those whiteys. :P |
| 23:01.19 | jxqz | it turns into a show about people watching it |
| 23:01.25 | youtah | I will admit, I did cheat and read the wikipedia page for Season 4, so I know how it ends for that season |
| 23:01.37 | jxqz | and then ... STUFF!!!!! |
| 23:01.51 | youtah | "ding ding" |
| 23:01.51 | jxqz | HARRY KILLS DUMBELDOOR!! |
| 23:01.56 | KingMichael | I read on fox news that bryan cranston will be lex luther in the new man of steel movie |
| 23:02.05 | Migs | oh man |
| 23:02.11 | jxqz | Gene HAckman |
| 23:02.11 | Migs | why on earth would you do that? |
| 23:02.15 | jxqz | rocks Lex |
| 23:02.17 | KingMichael | I was sad when hank died and poor walt jn. |
| 23:02.20 | Migs | oh well, still doesn't ruin how dramatic it is |
| 23:02.44 | Migs | yeah, and it's weird how Jesse hooks up with Skyler |
| 23:02.49 | youtah | ROFL |
| 23:03.07 | youtah | http://i.imgur.com/i55qMY5.png |
| 23:03.10 | Migs | but NO MORE SPOILERS |
| 23:03.19 | Migs | wat |
| 23:03.23 | youtah | LOL |
| 23:03.24 | jxqz | Migs: HARRY KILLS RON! |
| 23:03.27 | d3c4f | I will kill you all!!!!!! |
| 23:03.29 | d3c4f | lol |
| 23:03.43 | KingMichael | there doing a spin off show there in the progress of making around Saul i'm looking forward to that |
| 23:03.49 | Migs | yeah me too |
| 23:03.51 | youtah | I heard about that |
| 23:03.56 | d3c4f | nice |
| 23:04.00 | youtah | it's supposed to be how Saul got into the business |
| 23:04.08 | youtah | No Spoilers KingMichael though.... |
| 23:04.26 | KingMichael | Ah only a few more weeks till Walking dead starts !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 23:04.28 | Migs | meh |
| 23:04.33 | KingMichael | and dexter is ending :( |
| 23:04.40 | Migs | after Breaking Bad and Dexter...not too interested in Walking Dead anymore |
| 23:04.55 | KingMichael | Walking dead will always be my fav |
| 23:04.58 | youtah | Yup.... Breaking Bad has been totally like camping. |
| 23:05.02 | Migs | I had a hard time taking this season of Dexter seriously, because I've been watching Breaking Bad at the same time |
| 23:05.09 | youtah | It's InTents! |
| 23:05.20 | Migs | I love Dexter, but this season has been a real stinker |
| 23:05.23 | youtah | ducks behind the couch before something is thrown at him |
| 23:05.32 | KingMichael | Migs i agree |
| 23:05.34 | Migs | it's still my wife's favorite show |
| 23:05.58 | youtah | I also had to talk my wife into watching arrested development with me |
| 23:06.00 | Migs | But I watched BB Sunday. Then tried watching Dexter. I mean how do you compare? |
| 23:06.04 | KingMichael | I hope saccston kills dexter |
| 23:06.10 | Migs | nothing compares |
| 23:06.10 | youtah | same thing, she didnt care until we got about 6 episodes into it |
| 23:06.15 | Migs | Saxon is the worst villain ever |
| 23:06.28 | KingMichael | it will be lame if dexter and hanna get away |
| 23:06.28 | Migs | there's nothing interesting about him |
| 23:06.39 | Migs | they have a million loose ends to tie up still, it seems |
| 23:06.48 | youtah | I heard Dexter kills IronMan |
| 23:06.49 | KingMichael | very true |
| 23:06.57 | KingMichael | lol |
| 23:07.00 | youtah | lol |
| 23:07.01 | Migs | my wife didn't want to watch Game of Thrones either, but she very quickly got hooked on it |
| 23:07.03 | KingMichael | youtah thats funny |
| 23:07.24 | KingMichael | iv heard good things about that i need to watch game of thrones |
| 23:07.29 | Migs | oh it's wonderful |
| 23:07.33 | youtah | I havent watched Game of Thrones |
| 23:07.47 | youtah | I just see screenshots from it on Imgur couple times a week |
| 23:07.53 | Migs | Probably, at this moment at least, second favorite show after Breaking Bad |
| 23:08.30 | mheath | ./window 4 |
| 23:08.31 | KingMichael | jessie is now a meth slave cook i thought that was funny |
| 23:08.50 | mheath | woops |
| 23:08.56 | youtah | Careful KingMichael .... |
| 23:09.07 | mheath | bordering on spoilers there, KingMichael |
| 23:09.17 | youtah | dont even give small hints |
| 23:09.37 | KingMichael | my bad i was assuming people seen it already |
| 23:09.42 | youtah | no, that' |
| 23:09.47 | youtah | that's what I said above |
| 23:09.58 | youtah | d3c4f hasn't watched it yet |
| 23:10.08 | Migs | I know. KingMichael, knock it off |
| 23:10.15 | KingMichael | anyways i got to pick my GF up from work all be back in a while |
| 23:10.19 | youtah | <youtah> I'm at Season 4 Episode 10 now for Breaking Bad <<<< This |
| 23:10.30 | Migs | a bunch of people said they "still need to catch up." |
| 23:10.37 | Migs | Besides, that's just bad form to start spoiling a show anyway |
| 23:10.43 | KingMichael | i did not catch that part |
| 23:10.45 | youtah | ^ |
| 23:10.48 | youtah | ~lart KingMichael |
| 23:10.49 | infobot | flings poo at KingMichael |
| 23:10.52 | youtah | lol |
| 23:10.54 | Migs | ~whalenuke KingMichael |
| 23:10.55 | infobot | ACTION dons her radiation cloak and tinted glasses while a highly intelligent whale named Ray precipitates critical mass for uncontrolled nuclear fission around KingMichael with his mind powers. |
| 23:11.05 | KingMichael | anyways bunch of cry babys i'm out |
| 23:11.09 | mheath | I forgot I had this channel on autojoin. I don't live in Utah anymore :D |
| 23:11.10 | youtah | lol |
| 23:11.11 | jxqz | HARRY KILLS YODA! |
| 23:11.13 | mheath | haha |
| 23:11.24 | Migs | mheath: Why not? |
| 23:11.25 | youtah | AFK.... Mtn Dew Run |
| 23:11.47 | jxqz | ~spoiler |
| 23:11.57 | mheath | Migs: because the military decided |
| 23:12.59 | mheath | I'm active duty Army |
| 23:14.01 | jxqz | mheath is reading ur data |
| 23:14.14 | mheath | haha |
| 23:14.20 | Migs | oh |
| 23:14.25 | Migs | well tell them you belong in here |
| 23:14.35 | Migs | and you need to return to Utah |
| 23:14.43 | mheath | Migs: theres no Army in Utah :D |
| 23:14.50 | Migs | tell them to create one |
| 23:15.00 | Migs | I'm pretty sure the Army exists in Utah, too |
| 23:15.13 | Migs | Don't take "no" for an answer |
| 23:15.26 | mheath | haha |
| 23:15.33 | *** join/#utah undertakingyou (~undertaki@c-98-202-44-49.hsd1.ut.comcast.net) |
| 23:15.36 | mheath | What, and leave the great state of Missouri? |
| 23:15.46 | jxqz | ~md5 mheath |
| 23:17.31 | fugue88 | wonders if there's an md5 fixed-point. |
| 23:17.34 | fugue88 | ~md5 0 |
| 23:17.53 | mheath | lol |
| 23:17.55 | fugue88 | ~md5 cfcd208495d565ef66e7dff9f98764da |
| 23:18.09 | fugue88 | ~md5 dcfcd07e645d245babe887e5e2daa016 |
| 23:18.16 | fugue88 | This is a really slow way to go about this. |
| 23:18.28 | Migs | ~md5 Migs |
| 23:19.41 | mheath | ~md5 885150764assf |
| 23:20.05 | jxqz | ~sha512 cfcd208495d565ef66e7dff9f98764da |
| 23:20.16 | jxqz | ~elliptic curve |
| 23:20.25 | jxqz | ~diabolic curve |
| 23:20.32 | rsimpkins | mheath: Can you get dressed in 5 minutes still? |
| 23:20.50 | jxqz | rsimpkins: can you still do 100 pushups? |
| 23:21.08 | rsimpkins | jxqz: no. i can do 1. 1 pushup. and only with 2 weeks advanced notice. |
| 23:21.10 | mheath | rsimpkins: I'm an officer, so that's never really an official performance standard for us, but probably :D |
| 23:21.34 | mheath | rsimpkins: I can put on chemical protective clothing in less than 5. |
| 23:21.36 | jxqz | can you officiate official officer offices? |
| 23:21.45 | mheath | jxqz: yes! |
| 23:21.56 | jxqz | chair force |
| 23:22.02 | rsimpkins | mheath: Explain to your subordinates that you are going to have a little contest in the morning. Last person in formation will be shot. GO! |
| 23:23.19 | mheath | rsimpkins: good idea. I like this leadership style. |
| 23:23.50 | rsimpkins | mheath: It only works if you get replacements. It'll be a little like evolution. The ones that can adapt will survive. |
| 23:26.47 | youtah | Back |
| 23:28.34 | youtah | hye guys |
| 23:28.41 | youtah | hey guys & gals.... |
| 23:28.54 | youtah | just so you know... I have like 16 Fusion-io cards at my desk this very minute |
| 23:28.59 | youtah | hugs the cards |
| 23:29.21 | skrike | idolator! |
| 23:30.07 | jxqz | do you have a full set? |
| 23:30.17 | jxqz | do you have mheath's rookie card? |
| 23:30.27 | youtah | I do have mheath's rookie card |
| 23:30.41 | jxqz | did you get a stale gum stick with each purchase? |
| 23:30.43 | skrike | do you have wolf blitzer and night vision goggles? |
| 23:30.52 | youtah | THAT WAS GUM?!?!?!? |
| 23:30.58 | youtah | digs in the trash can... |
| 23:31.01 | jxqz | do you have a Titan II ICBM? |
| 23:31.27 | youtah | mheath said he works for a police dept? |
| 23:32.02 | youtah | op, scrolled up, never mind |
| 23:32.41 | youtah | Curiosity, what's your MOS mheath? |
| 23:33.17 | youtah | 18A? |
| 23:38.48 | jxqz | ~spoiler |
| 23:38.49 | infobot | HARRY KILLS YODA!!!!1 |
| 23:39.04 | youtah | 1 |
| 23:39.11 | jxqz | 2 |
| 23:39.26 | jxqz | ~spoiler |
| 23:39.26 | infobot | spoiler is probably HARRY IS VOLDEMORT!!!!1 |
| 23:39.46 | youtah | jxqz, add "Dexter kills Ironman!!!!1" |
| 23:40.17 | jxqz | sigh |
| 23:40.27 | jxqz | fine, what am I, your irc bot interface? |
| 23:40.35 | youtah | Considering that mheath hasn't responded to me guessing his 18A MOS.... I think I will go and hide. |
| 23:40.52 | youtah | jxqz, I have no idea how. So if you don't mind, yes. |
| 23:40.53 | jxqz | my rate is $748/hour for irc bot maintenance |
| 23:40.57 | youtah | screw that |
| 23:41.11 | jxqz | done |
| 23:41.18 | youtah | ~spoiler |
| 23:41.19 | infobot | well, spoiler is HARRY KILLS A KITTEN!!!!1 |
| 23:41.29 | youtah | asdf |
| 23:41.30 | jxqz | backlog |
| 23:41.30 | youtah | ~spoiler |
| 23:41.30 | infobot | hmm... spoiler is HARRY DEVELOPS ANATHEMA OF CINNAMON!!!!1 |
| 23:41.41 | youtah | nachos |
| 23:41.42 | youtah | ~spoiler |
| 23:41.43 | infobot | somebody said spoiler was HARRY DEVELOPS ANATHEMA OF CINNAMON!!!!1 |
| 23:42.59 | jxqz | literal spoiler |
| 23:43.15 | jxqz | ~literal spoiler |
| 23:43.15 | infobot | "spoiler" is "<reply> HARRY KILLS YODA!!!!1||HARRY KILLS DUMBLYDOAR!!!!1||HARRY KILLS RON!!!!1||HARRY KILLS!!!!1||HARRY KILLS A KITTEN!!!!1||HARRY DEVELOPS ANATHEMA OF CINNAMON!!!!1||HARRY IS VOLDEMORT!!!!1||Dexter kills Ironman!!!!1" |
| 23:43.34 | youtah | I love it! |
| 23:44.25 | jxqz | now I've got youtah taking full advantage of his developer workstantion, modding infobot |
| 23:44.36 | jxqz | teach a man to IRC |
| 23:44.50 | jxqz | there goes my consulting fee |
| 23:45.25 | youtah | lol |
| 23:46.06 | youtah | Any of you Spotify? |
| 23:46.20 | jxqz | is that like libre.fm? |
| 23:46.50 | youtah | Imagine itunes meets pandora meets google music meets amazon music |
| 23:46.59 | youtah | meets sky.fm |
| 23:47.04 | youtah | meets awesome |
| 23:47.39 | jxqz | most music services out there *severely* botch classical music |
| 23:47.49 | jxqz | so I've never been interested |
| 23:47.51 | stderr- | I didn't know there were still people who didn't use Spotify |
| 23:48.03 | jxqz | s/most/all/g |
| 23:48.17 | youtah | Spotify is rather descent from what I have found. |
| 23:48.21 | *** join/#utah harleypig_ (~harleypig@fw.oremut02.us.wh.verio.net) |
| 23:48.34 | youtah | OMG!!! harleypig is back!!! I was getting scared. |
| 23:48.47 | harleypig_ | ummm |
| 23:48.50 | youtah | http://open.spotify.com/track/5i6syNqMxfEvcbGXnqgPSs << I have been LOVING this song. |
| 23:48.51 | jxqz | let's sing the harleypig song! |
| 23:49.12 | youtah | * harleypig_ (~harleypig@fw.oremut02.us.wh.verio.net) has joined #utah << I was responding to this. |
| 23:49.33 | harleypig_ | This is the harleypig song: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gr_Iobkz3BE |
| 23:49.41 | jxqz | yay |
| 23:51.01 | jxqz | ~spoiler |
| 23:51.01 | infobot | i guess spoiler is HARRY KILLS RON!!!!1 |
| 23:51.42 | *** join/#utah KingMichael (~KingMicha@c-174-52-30-18.hsd1.ut.comcast.net) |
| 23:54.37 | jxqz | ~spoiler |
| 23:54.37 | infobot | somebody said spoiler was HARRY KILLS A KITTEN!!!!1 |
| 23:57.20 | harleypig_ | a spoiler is HARRY SMASHES THE CAKE!!!1!! |
| 23:57.25 | harleypig_ | did that work? |
| 23:57.30 | harleypig_ | ~spoiler |
| 23:57.30 | infobot | hmm... spoiler is HARRY DEVELOPS ANATHEMA OF CINNAMON!!!!1 |
| 23:57.39 | harleypig_ | bye pdayton |
| 23:58.54 | youtah | Does someone want to change my address with everything that has my address for me? |
