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| 14:32.47 | jlp_znc | awww, crap. I need to change my password today. :-( |
| 14:33.09 | jlp_znc | I hate hate hate policies that force you to change your password periodically. |
| 14:35.40 | jlp_znc | at least it's 90 days here... at Raytheon it was every 45 days. about the time you got used to typing it, you had to change it again. |
| 14:39.09 | keldwud | thanks for the feedback, fugue88. It's good to know how other people feel about some tools before committing to one :) |
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| 15:21.43 | jlp_znc | any star trek fans on here? http://igg.me/p/star-trek-renegades/x/617336 <- indiegogo campaign for Star Trek: Renegades |
| 15:22.00 | jlp_znc | ends today |
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| 15:36.47 | Q_Continuum | jlp_znc: Why hasn't this gotten more sharing? I'm just hearing about this now... |
| 15:39.43 | jlp_znc | dunno... I just heard about it myself |
| 15:40.44 | jlp_znc | but they've got Walter Koenig, Tim Russ, and Robert Picardo (please state the nature of the medical emergency) among others |
| 15:42.54 | Q_Continuum | Yeah |
| 15:43.03 | jlp_znc | apparently, it's their *second* project. I hadn't heard of Star Trek: Of Gods and Men, either |
| 15:43.39 | jlp_znc | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Trek:_Of_Gods_and_Men |
| 15:43.42 | Q_Continuum | Richard Herd as well |
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| 15:47.05 | jlp_znc | apparently, they ran a kickstarter earlier for Renegades and pulled in $242k, but they want additional funding for real sets so they can do less green screen |
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| 15:48.25 | Q_Continuum | Yeah |
| 15:48.33 | Q_Continuum | I'm looking at getting both DVDs |
| 15:48.42 | Q_Continuum | Not sure if I care about the combadge ;-P |
| 15:49.19 | jlp_znc | I went in at the $75 level, all digital |
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| 15:54.56 | jlp_znc | I don't think they're going to make the $200k stretch goal, though |
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| 15:56.50 | Q_Continuum | I don't think so either, unless it gets *LOTS* of eyeballs. |
| 16:00.55 | jlp_znc | we need youtah to tweet it. :-) |
| 16:01.09 | jlp_znc | if he ever makes it in to the office today, I'll tell him |
| 16:04.59 | keldwud | link? |
| 16:05.23 | keldwud | I have a couple eyeballs |
| 16:05.28 | jlp_znc | http://igg.me/p/star-trek-renegades/x/617336 |
| 16:05.33 | keldwud | I'm sure a couple eyeballs are more than none :) |
| 16:05.35 | keldwud | tx |
| 16:08.58 | keldwud | I should probably be more active on my google plus |
| 16:09.11 | keldwud | then my eyeballs would actually count |
| 16:09.51 | keldwud | I also think that follower counts on google plus tend to be higher than in other places |
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| 16:27.19 | unum | got my first obama care check yesterday. |
| 16:32.37 | keldwud | wat? I want a check |
| 16:32.43 | keldwud | where do I sign up? |
| 16:33.05 | keldwud | when you say obama care, do you mean the affordable care act? |
| 16:33.09 | keldwud | I'm not sure exactly what obama care is |
| 16:33.13 | keldwud | is it a real thing? |
| 16:33.37 | manithree | keldwud: Even Obama knows what Obama Care is |
| 16:33.50 | keldwud | ahh |
| 16:33.55 | keldwud | I assumed it was a marketing term |
| 16:33.55 | keldwud | my bad |
| 16:34.26 | manithree | Romney said it in a debate, sort of apologized, and Obama said, he had no problem with the name |
| 16:34.28 | Q_Continuum | manithree: Yeah, but does he call it "Obama Care" or "My Care"? |
| 16:34.37 | Q_Continuum | ducks |
| 16:34.58 | manithree | Q_Continuum: More likely We Care (as in the royal "we") |
| 16:38.17 | unum | keldwud: the term was developed by conservatives to market against the affordable care act, but ya the democrats have come to embrace it |
| 16:38.47 | unum | the only reason I got a check was because my wife took our daughters in for a check up and paid a copay |
| 16:38.52 | keldwud | unum: that was a good explanation, thank you :) |
| 16:39.11 | unum | but under the ACA they are not allow to charge those anymore |
| 16:39.13 | jlp_znc | so is that automatic or do you have to do something to get it? |
| 16:39.14 | keldwud | so it is officially synonymous with affordable care act, then? thanks |
| 16:39.15 | unum | so they mailed us a check |
| 16:39.30 | jlp_znc | oh, for just a check up (as in, not a sick child) |
| 16:39.44 | unum | keldwud: obama used it as such in the debate :) |
| 16:39.50 | unum | as manithree pointed out |
| 16:40.04 | unum | "preventive" care is cover |
| 16:40.05 | unum | ed |
| 16:40.29 | jlp_znc | right, so like a physical would be covered, but if you were having a heart attack, you're on your own. :-/ |
| 16:40.46 | jlp_znc | (well, on your own insurance, anyway) |
| 16:41.25 | unum | jlp_znc: correct(but the preventive care is still charged to your own insurance, they just can't make you pay part of it) |
| 16:41.55 | jlp_znc | actually, that came off like I'm not in favor of the ACA... I actually am. it's already saved me several thousand dollars when my 23 year old son had to go to the emergency room. prior to the ACA, he would not have been able to be covered by my insurance (coverage stopped at age 21), but with ACA, I can keep him insured until he is 26 or so. |
| 16:42.13 | jlp_znc | since he's a college student and unemployed, I kind of want to keep him on my insurance. |
| 16:43.33 | jlp_znc | also have noticed that we don't have to pay a co-pay for my wife's birth control medication any more. |
| 16:43.55 | unum | ya that's a massive issue |
| 16:44.03 | unum | I think it's Papa Johns that's suing over that |
| 16:44.21 | unum | hopefully we can just seperate health care from employers and be done with that issue |
| 16:44.54 | jlp_znc | what we really need to do is separate health care from for profit health insurance companies. |
| 16:45.02 | jlp_znc | HA HA HA HA HA! |
| 16:45.34 | unum | the for profit companies are now capped |
| 16:45.40 | unum | so a bunch of people got check because of that |
| 16:46.20 | jlp_znc | they still retain too much control. we had to pay over $10k in hospital charges when my wife had her first kidney surgery because the insurance company decided that she didn't need to stay in the hospital for a full week afterwards. |
| 16:46.46 | jlp_znc | never mind the fact that she was on morphine for six of those days and had to be on supplemental oxygen. |
| 16:47.15 | jlp_znc | some paper pusher at the insurance company decided that it wasn't "medically necessary", even though her doctor thought it was. |
| 16:51.19 | unum | your statements remain of the la times article someone posted the other day. it mention something like 43% of voters opposed the ACA, but 8% of those opposing it did so because it didn't go far enough |
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| 17:21.14 | d3c4f_work | YAY! ANOTHER XO service outage. |
| 17:21.21 | d3c4f_work | 200 sip trunks down. :S |
| 17:21.29 | d3c4f_work | for 1+ hour and counting |
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| 17:26.09 | kalcy1 | I wonder if that XO outage is affecting bluehost |
| 17:26.50 | d3c4f_work | We also have some routing issues with out XO fiber DIA |
| 17:27.01 | d3c4f_work | they've been happening for about the last 2 weeks |
| 17:42.05 | unum | I think I'll just spend all day creating dia diagrams |
| 17:45.26 | d3c4f_work | probably :/ |
| 18:10.55 | keldwud | anybody else going to the wireshark class tonight? |
| 18:12.40 | jlp_znc | wireshark class? |
| 18:12.55 | keldwud | yeah, packet inspection |
| 18:13.04 | keldwud | at the salt lake hackerspace |
| 18:13.06 | levi | Cool. |
| 18:13.43 | keldwud | I think it starts at 6? |
| 18:13.58 | levi | I won't be able to make it, unfortunately. |
| 18:14.27 | levi | unum: Surely there's some better way than Dia? |
| 18:14.38 | levi | Or did Dia stop being absolutely terrible recently? |
| 18:15.00 | keldwud | I do my diagrams in lucidchart :) |
| 18:16.10 | jlp_znc | http://alternativeto.net/software/microsoft-visio/?license=free |
| 18:19.41 | levi | If I can't find something that'll generate the kind of drawing I want from a textual description of it, I typically use Inkscape. |
| 18:20.01 | keldwud | oh they don't list lucidchart |
| 18:20.19 | keldwud | http://alternativeto.net/software/lucidchart/ |
| 18:20.20 | jlp_znc | it's not free |
| 18:20.23 | keldwud | oh that's why |
| 18:20.32 | keldwud | because it seems to have the most likes |
| 18:20.36 | jlp_znc | leave the license=free off and you'll see it |
| 18:20.45 | keldwud | I'm spoiled because I've been using my student email for a free account |
| 18:20.51 | keldwud | so I get all the functionality |
| 18:21.05 | keldwud | but if you have a university email address, it's free |
| 18:21.06 | keldwud | iirc |
| 18:22.45 | levi | Lucidchard reminds me a bit of OmniGraffle. |
| 18:23.08 | levi | Seems pretty nice. |
| 18:24.04 | keldwud | levi: it's pretty sweet, I think. I've only really used it for UML and network diagrams and a few flowcharts with coworkers |
| 18:24.09 | keldwud | but that was the really nice part |
| 18:24.12 | keldwud | collab with co-workers |
| 18:24.24 | keldwud | and much more robust than google drawings |
| 18:24.47 | keldwud | I'm definitely a big fan. but I've never used visio or anything like it |
| 18:24.55 | keldwud | so I don't have anything else to really compare it to |
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| 18:54.51 | jlp_znc | http://devopsreactions.tumblr.com/post/61010641998/some-hosting-companies-on-availability |
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| 20:27.55 | av9 | my cats are afraid of the roomba. |
| 20:28.14 | jlp_znc | I think those were dogs, weren't they? |
| 20:28.18 | jlp_znc | watches again |
| 20:28.53 | av9 | they look like kittens to me. |
| 20:28.57 | jlp_znc | puppies I think |
| 20:29.22 | av9 | you can hear meowing in the video. |
| 20:29.24 | jlp_znc | look at the shape of the paws when the one walks towards the roomba |
| 20:29.26 | av9 | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vSjX02FIZCk |
| 20:29.41 | jlp_znc | well, you must be right, then. |
| 20:30.05 | av9 | wait, that's in my music. |
| 20:30.21 | jlp_znc | well, the video says kittens |
| 20:30.43 | av9 | yeah, looks like a rehost though, plus, there is a huge dog that walks by near the end of the video. |
| 20:31.31 | av9 | either way, my cats are afraid of my roomba. |
| 20:37.07 | jlp_znc | I hate it when I'm looking at my emacs window, but my mouse is over my chrome window and I hit ctrl-N a bunch of times |
| 20:40.18 | av9 | you could setup focus follows mouse. |
| 20:40.23 | av9 | but i hate that, personally |
| 20:44.29 | jlp_znc | I do have focus follows mouse... mouse was over the chrome window. |
| 20:44.36 | jlp_znc | I need focus follows intent |
| 20:44.57 | jlp_znc | not focus follows eyes, because I may be looking at a different window from the one I want to type in |
| 20:45.14 | jlp_znc | why can't X read my mind and just know which window I want to type in?! |
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| 21:14.43 | manithree | wonders anybody at http://sixnutrition.com/ ever uses emacs |
| 21:14.59 | manithree | s/wonders/wonders if/ |
| 21:15.57 | jlp_znc | vitamins for real men? that come in a little condom wrapper? |
| 21:16.37 | manithree | I know nothing about them, I just saw a car in the parking lot with a HUGE VI sticker in the window, and thought it was funny. I need an emacs sticker. |
| 21:16.48 | jlp_znc | ahhhh! :-) |
| 21:17.02 | jlp_znc | I always forget about the "six" editor |
| 21:18.10 | manithree | Don't forget 6m (6 improved) |
| 21:18.43 | jlp_znc | or "m-proved" |
| 21:18.51 | manithree | right |
| 21:19.08 | jlp_znc | marketing people must be so much fun at parties |
| 21:20.08 | manithree | Nah, they don't get any of my jokes. |
| 21:20.19 | jlp_znc | exactly! |
| 21:20.35 | jlp_znc | :-) |
| 21:20.58 | manithree | I think AJ had a joke about that last night in his node.js presentation. |
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| 22:44.49 | KingMichael | any one no a way to make it so you cant click into a <textarea readonly > using css? I'v been googling but can't seem to find anything |
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| 23:07.17 | unum | you might be able to set it to disabled |
| 23:07.24 | unum | everyone's probably gone now |
| 23:09.13 | tima | KingMichael: maybe change z-index so it's under something transparent |
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