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| 01:39.45 | eightyeight | <overridemymind> still hasn't read my memo to memoserv |
| 01:39.57 | eightyeight | when he/she does, and acknowledges back, i'll release the ban |
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| 15:36.04 | fungus | سمَـَّوُوُحخ ̷̴̐خ ̷̴̐خ ̷̴̐خ امارتيخ ̷̴̐خ |
| 15:36.59 | goozbach | yay! |
| 15:37.14 | goozbach | no one using a mac directly I take it |
| 15:37.25 | goozbach | well let's wait for them to time out |
| 15:37.42 | jsmith | goozbach: Huh? Some sort of zero-day exploit? |
| 15:38.07 | goozbach | jsmith: yeah in the same vein as the file:/// bug of yestermonth |
| 15:38.16 | goozbach | kills webkit |
| 15:38.19 | jlp_znc | I use a mac laptop... haven't turned it on today. what do I need to be aware of? |
| 15:38.24 | goozbach | and some IRC clients |
| 15:38.33 | Migs | lol @ fungus trying that in here |
| 15:38.38 | goozbach | jlp_znc: the above unicode string will kill certian programs |
| 15:38.45 | Migs | if anything, go to #apple or #mac |
| 15:38.57 | fungus | ooh, good idea. :) |
| 15:39.01 | jlp_znc | ahh, nice. thanks for the warning |
| 15:39.03 | Migs | actually don't |
| 15:39.11 | Migs | tons of people were doing it yesterday |
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| 15:39.15 | goozbach | this page https://zhovner.com/tmp/killwebkit.html loads in firefox just fine |
| 15:39.18 | Migs | it's not funny anymore |
| 15:39.27 | goozbach | but not chrome or safari |
| 15:43.14 | TimRiker | loads fine for me in chrome on ubuntu |
| 15:43.42 | TimRiker | says it's an html page, but it's really just a text file by the looks of it |
| 15:44.43 | TimRiker | google translate does not think it's anything useful. |
| 15:46.32 | TimRiker | w3c says it's not a document. :) http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=https%3A%2F%2Fzhovner.com%2Ftmp%2Fkillwebkit.html |
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| 15:51.03 | goozbach | TimRiker: only on mac osx |
| 15:51.09 | goozbach | it's another webkit bug |
| 15:59.27 | jsmith | goozbach: Actually, it's a CoreText bug, but most easily exposed in WebKit |
| 16:00.17 | goozbach | well yeah |
| 16:02.31 | TimRiker | goozbach, does it still happen if you wrap it in html tags? |
| 16:03.15 | TimRiker | is there a very short sequence that triggers it? ie: what's the shortest text version? |
| 16:04.19 | goozbach | TimRiker: haven't done any more research than to load it in chrome/firefox/irssi |
| 16:04.41 | goozbach | doesn't manifest via terminal->ssh-> |
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| 16:52.14 | d3c4f | PSA: don't use XO for any services. :S |
| 16:53.47 | fungus | disagrees |
| 16:54.48 | fungus | XO has the best service from all of my telco providers. |
| 16:55.13 | d3c4f | is going on well over a week cumulative downtime this year along on out 3 pri's |
| 16:55.40 | d3c4f | also our BGP routes keep getting screwed up on their end for our DIA services |
| 16:55.57 | d3c4f | customer support is friendly, but useless |
| 16:56.29 | d3c4f | our faxing is going on two FULL days downtime and counting right now |
| 16:56.45 | d3c4f | they admit there is a problem on their end, and their main TDM tech is out |
| 16:56.52 | d3c4f | ...so there's that |
| 16:57.46 | fungus | So bug your salesperson and make then go up the chain escalating it. |
| 16:57.56 | d3c4f | we've been doing that |
| 16:58.05 | d3c4f | we had meetings with the CEO at one point |
| 16:58.30 | d3c4f | $150k / year in services and we still get terrible service |
| 16:58.47 | fungus | I've had a few issues w/ XO services, but they've been handled quite well in most cases. And compared to the horrific service from all my other Telcos. they are a godsend. |
| 16:59.28 | d3c4f | not anymore, about 2 years ago when they centralized everything they started to go downhill fast |
| 16:59.32 | fungus | Don't even talk to me about NewEdge, Qwest, AT&T, etc. |
| 17:00.19 | d3c4f | we use comcast business as our alternate isp, and they have been 1000x better then xo |
| 17:00.33 | d3c4f | we use them as the primary at this point though |
| 17:01.27 | fungus | Comcast is ok too. |
| 17:01.46 | d3c4f | we are looking at Integra now pretty hard |
| 17:02.23 | d3c4f | we were also looking at Xmission, but they were too expensive down here unfortunately |
| 17:06.43 | fungus | I have at least a little business on almost every major telco in the country. But I my priorities are XO > Comcast > Qwest/Integra > anything else. |
| 17:07.07 | fungus | depending on availability and price |
| 17:08.31 | harleypig | huh ... that killwebkit page loads in my Windows Chrome just fine |
| 17:08.45 | fungus | NewEdge and Covad are perma-blacklisted. And AT&T only via an aggregator because they suck but are the only game in town in many areas. |
| 17:09.00 | d3c4f | you've had a totally different experience then I have, fungus |
| 17:09.36 | Gate | goozbach: works perfectly in chrome, OSX |
| 17:10.13 | d3c4f | at least with XO |
| 17:10.32 | fungus | The install/implementation of our XO MPLS + SIP here in Utah was a nightmare, but that wasn't all XO's fault, and they were extremely helpful through the whole transition, including letting us keep our original connection w/o paying for an extended period. |
| 17:11.12 | d3c4f | our XO SIP has been pretty good so far |
| 17:11.18 | d3c4f | so there is that |
| 17:11.48 | fungus | Yeah, it's great now that it's all in place. |
| 17:13.07 | fungus | Now the Comcast Ethernet stuff we have still kinda sucks technically. Poor QoS options, still drops some of my EIGRP packets. etc. |
| 17:14.26 | fungus | But Comcast support and reps have been mostly helpful and their regular business cable has been really nice. |
| 17:14.35 | d3c4f | interesting, we have Comcast Fiber and it's been fantastic |
| 17:15.02 | fungus | My Comcast fiber for Internet is great. But the Private Ethernet links between branches kinda suck |
| 17:15.05 | keldwud | we just got integra |
| 17:15.21 | keldwud | they had a good promotion going on for a but |
| 17:15.23 | keldwud | *bit |
| 17:15.36 | keldwud | I think it was $800 for 100 |
| 17:19.15 | d3c4f | keldwud, that is a fantastic deal |
| 17:21.16 | keldwud | yeah, I don't know how my boss pulled it off |
| 17:21.52 | keldwud | he's a darn good negotiator |
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| 18:11.27 | unum | I think we're all veracity now. |
| 18:11.32 | unum | we had integra at one point |
| 18:12.21 | unum | well we have utopia+xmission for internet |
| 18:12.29 | unum | but I think even that is somehow tied to veracity |
| 18:12.51 | goozbach | zenpencils.com you're very welcome |
| 18:13.01 | goozbach | Jayce^: harleypig fozzmoo (or other comics fans) |
| 18:13.28 | harleypig | que? |
| 18:14.19 | goozbach | http://zenpencils.com/ |
| 18:14.23 | goozbach | great webcomic |
| 18:14.32 | goozbach | inspirational quotes in comic form |
| 18:14.39 | goozbach | recently posted two of them to my FB |
| 18:15.13 | harleypig | The litany against fear was disturbing. But I'm a radical mra. |
| 18:15.45 | goozbach | http://zenpencils.com/comic/90-ira-glass-advice-for-beginners/ |
| 18:16.10 | goozbach | harleypig: yeah, I'm a fan of the litany, that take is interesting to say the least |
| 18:21.16 | keldwud | best practice for migrating pfsense? |
| 18:21.24 | keldwud | new box and copy config over? |
| 18:21.45 | keldwud | and then plug new one in as I unplug the old one? |
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| 18:50.12 | jlp_znc | does pfsense support a fail-over model? |
| 18:50.48 | jlp_znc | if so, set up the first machine as a "cluster" of one, add the second machine to the cluster, then fail it over and delete the first machine from the cluster. |
| 18:52.02 | jlp_znc | http://www.howtoforge.com/how-to-configure-a-pfsense-2.0-cluster-using-carp |
| 19:07.17 | Jayce^ | goozbach: I learned about it last week from another friend.. great stuff |
| 19:14.36 | Tene | https://twitter.com/probirdrights is pretty amazing |
| 19:15.39 | harleypig_ | tree |
| 19:17.17 | keldwud | nice |
| 19:25.32 | harleypig_ | Does anyone know of a mp3 player that does not have built in storage? Just has a usb port for a thumb drive? |
| 19:27.45 | fungus | portable? none that I know of. Stationary? some. |
| 19:29.52 | goozbach | harleypig_: there was one that fozz had which used CF IIRC |
| 19:30.11 | goozbach | may have had internal storage as well I don't recall specificly |
| 19:30.18 | harleypig_ | fungus: no, this would need to be portable |
| 19:30.20 | goozbach | fozzmoo: ^^ |
| 19:33.04 | fungus | you could probably use a raspberry pi, that's fairly portable. :) |
| 19:34.15 | goozbach | ohh, some momentary switches put on the gpio pins |
| 19:34.17 | goozbach | ... |
| 19:34.19 | goozbach | that's promising |
| 19:35.18 | fungus | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D8pI96tnjTc |
| 19:36.40 | harleypig_ | fungus: nice |
| 19:41.04 | goozbach | just shot myself in the foot |
| 19:41.22 | goozbach | or grazed as no permanent damage occured |
| 19:41.47 | jlp_znc | rollback is your friend |
| 19:42.09 | goozbach | I've done a custom spin of a distro for a customer, and one of the post-boot scripts I use looks in /proc/cmdline (from the installer) for the string 'debug' |
| 19:42.23 | goozbach | so I use debug=1 as one of the options I pass to anaconda. |
| 19:42.30 | jlp_znc | yikes |
| 19:42.49 | goozbach | that's all fine and dandy until your keyboard memory presses enter too fast and a 'debug' button pops up in anaconda |
| 19:42.51 | goozbach | doh |
| 19:43.05 | jlp_znc | yeah, you've gotta be careful with that kind of stuff. I like doing a readlink on the "exe" in /proc/{pid} |
| 19:43.37 | jlp_znc | combine that with the search of cmdline to confirm that it's really the one you want |
| 20:02.21 | harleypig_ | I have a system that is set to MST or MDT depending on the time of year (I don't control the system and can't get the timezone changed). |
| 20:02.38 | harleypig_ | Is there a way I can create a cron job that runs at a specified utc time? |
| 20:03.31 | harleypig_ | I have a job that must be run at 0200 UTC time. If I use 2000 MDT it will change when daylight savings switches. |
| 20:03.56 | harleypig_ | Gah ... didn't notice the time. Scrum. Bbiab. |
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| 20:11.59 | Tene | harleypig_: some cron daemons let you specify the timezone per-crontab |
| 20:12.15 | Tene | for others, you could set the timezone for crond itself |
| 20:12.40 | Tene | otherwise, you'll just have to launch a script hourly that checks the time in the right timezone, and then conditionally does whatever |
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| 20:29.20 | jlp_znc | yeah, agree with Tene... run the script at both 2000 and 2100 (or 1900?), then let the script decide if it needs to run the job or not. |
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| 20:51.04 | harleypig_ | That's what i was thinking, but I was hoping there would be a better method. |
| 20:55.44 | Tene | harleypig_: 13:11 < Tene> harleypig_: some cron daemons let you specify the timezone per-crontab |
| 20:55.53 | Tene | check which cron daemon you're using, and then find out if it supports that |
| 20:57.34 | harleypig_ | Tene: yeah, I looked. if cronie supports it I don't see it in the docs. |
| 20:57.44 | Tene | Ah. Lame. |
| 20:59.40 | stderr- | man 5 crontab; look for CRON_TZ |
| 20:59.43 | stderr- | cronie supports it. |
| 21:00.07 | harleypig_ | stderr-: feh. Thanks. Was looking for 'timezone' ... didn't think to look for tz. |
| 21:00.21 | stderr- | np |
| 21:00.40 | harleypig_ | oh, hey look ... 'time zone' is in that same paragraph. *sigh*. I'm going home. |
| 21:00.42 | harleypig_ | I wish. |
| 21:02.12 | Tene | set a cron job to send you home |
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| 21:39.27 | jlp_znc | or is that a "cronjob"? |
| 21:55.02 | harleypig_ | han job |
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| 23:16.39 | harleypig_ | lets loose a tension breaker ... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OgmsMMkoCac ... had to be done |
| 23:45.54 | eightyeight | this channel loses a lot of weight when it hits 'going home' time |
| 23:50.20 | harleypig_ | eightyeight: I see what you did there. :> |