| 00:00.24 | fungus | and for telnet it's: ctrl-] |
| 00:04.20 | Nemus | ye ctrl -] |
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| 00:08.05 | Tene | harleypig_: to kill an ssh session, <Enter>~. |
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| 00:22.53 | harleypig_ | Tene: that's what I thought |
| 00:23.13 | harleypig_ | But ... I forgot ... that was a *telnet* session. *sigh* Nyan cat had me snookered. |
| 00:38.18 | skrike | youtah: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DHVroXo_K50 |
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| 04:47.47 | av9 | overridemymind_: you have some serious connection problems. |
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| 14:18.12 | jima | this has been a great reverse advertisement for nuvox.net |
| 14:25.30 | skrike | ./kb |
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| 14:57.28 | eightyeight | i sent overridemymind a memoserv message about his connection in the channel |
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| 15:11.09 | youtah | <av9> overridemymind_: you have some serious connection problems. << lol, yes |
| 15:18.27 | youtah | heard that Jayce^ twerks |
| 15:18.37 | youtah | jumps behind the couch and hides. |
| 15:18.54 | youtah | I can't even believe that "twerk" is a thing |
| 15:19.30 | skrike | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CB-NHui0764 |
| 15:20.40 | Migs | so it's just a guy talkinG? |
| 15:20.45 | skrike | its flula! |
| 15:20.50 | skrike | He's hilarious |
| 15:20.55 | Migs | why are videos like this plastered all over YouTube? As if anyone cares what some random dude's opinion is. |
| 15:21.04 | skrike | hes like a comedian |
| 15:21.06 | skrike | or something |
| 15:21.24 | skrike | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gjwofYhUJEM |
| 15:21.27 | skrike | 3.5 million views |
| 15:21.31 | skrike | I think its hilarious |
| 15:21.44 | Migs | "My name is Flula Borg, and I am a musician from Erlangen in Germany. Many things Inspire to me, and I show those to you here!" |
| 15:21.47 | Migs | says nothing about being a comedian |
| 15:21.55 | skrike | thats why I said like |
| 15:22.01 | skrike | and then appended or something |
| 15:22.15 | skrike | caveats! |
| 15:22.29 | Migs | this is the driest "humor" I've ever heard |
| 15:22.39 | skrike | I have a pretty dry sense of humor |
| 15:22.39 | Migs | even by #utah standards |
| 15:22.48 | skrike | hes pretty talented http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xFczytpBpNg |
| 15:23.12 | skrike | but yes I agree, most of youtube is stupid people talking |
| 15:23.17 | skrike | I spend way too much time on it |
| 15:23.22 | skrike | but there are some gems |
| 15:23.40 | Migs | imo this ain't one of them |
| 15:23.43 | skrike | lol |
| 15:23.44 | Migs | but whatevs |
| 15:24.18 | Migs | show me a cat freaking out for no reason or people falling off trampolines. That's the funny stuff. |
| 15:24.32 | skrike | hold plz |
| 15:24.41 | Migs | the kind of stuff where I don't have to appreciate someone's "uniqueness" to understand the humor |
| 15:30.07 | unum | I don't like laughing at people very much |
| 15:30.09 | unum | I like witty |
| 15:33.48 | skrike | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7lZQ7wmjCFk |
| 15:36.10 | Jayce^ | so I heard youtah told all his moving volunteers to go home |
| 15:38.12 | youtah | lol |
| 15:38.14 | youtah | NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 15:38.19 | youtah | Happy Birthday everyone |
| 15:38.27 | youtah | Warning: Twerking is known to the State of California to cause cancer. |
| 15:38.29 | unum | last time I move I hired people |
| 15:38.29 | skrike | I got hooked up on my moving day |
| 15:38.33 | unum | and told the volunteers to stay home |
| 15:38.58 | skrike | an old friend saw my moving truck as he was heading home that morning, and showed up with 6 other dudes. |
| 15:40.26 | youtah | What's your friends number? |
| 15:40.34 | youtah | ;-) |
| 15:40.59 | skrike | I had some family coming over to help and by the time they got there we were done. |
| 15:41.38 | skrike | migs: here ya go http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_VfSl0iGAus |
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| 16:19.34 | bonez2046 | anyone know the channel for bitlbee support? I try /join #bitlbee and it shows it's a unavailable channel |
| 16:20.38 | av9 | bonez2046: i don't, but i recently gave irssi-xmpp a shot, and it worked pretty well for me. I only had one problem with it, but that made it unusable for my application. |
| 16:21.43 | bonez2046 | I had a working installatiion of bitlbee installed on localhost, but i can't seem to access it now |
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| 16:39.56 | jlp_znc | I've used bitlbee before, but not for a long time. you know that the #bitlbee channel isn't on freenode, right? |
| 16:46.55 | bonez2046 | that's my mistep |
| 16:47.09 | bonez2046 | on which network? oftc.net? |
| 16:48.25 | bonez2046 | thanks for that |
| 16:51.08 | jlp_znc | yep, oftc.net |
| 17:07.38 | bonez2046 | ok |
| 17:18.51 | Migs | http://i.imgur.com/aEM2yhf.png |
| 17:18.58 | Gate | I use bitlbee |
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| 18:03.19 | bonez2046 | Gate: do you connect to external server or run on localhost? |
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| 18:46.28 | Jayce^ | youtah and harleypig http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9auOCbH5Ns4 |
| 18:46.32 | Jayce^ | goozbach too probably |
| 18:46.37 | keldwud | are they sitting in a tree? |
| 18:49.05 | goozbach | only unicorn I like is charley |
| 18:49.38 | goozbach | but it's weebls stuff |
| 18:49.46 | goozbach | so it'll work |
| 18:51.31 | goozbach | wonders if webls stuff is like that octupus video in serenity |
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| 19:29.20 | jxqz | apple is so arrogant |
| 19:29.28 | jxqz | I mean, that's obvious, but |
| 19:30.14 | jxqz | when there's a hardware problem, the computer tells you that something else is having issues, like your router, or maybe you are the problem |
| 19:30.50 | jxqz | even dmesg doesn't say anything useful, just random crap that suggests the problem is with something else |
| 19:31.53 | Jayce^ | ? I had a board go out on one once, and it was pretty obvious in their message that it was a hardware issue |
| 19:32.09 | Jayce^ | only time I had one give problems that way was a ram problem |
| 19:33.07 | jxqz | "I'm sorry, Dave, but I'm detecting error. It must be your fault. You must not be donating enough of your money to Jobs et al. Please leave me in the hands of someone more hipster and turtle neck smug." |
| 19:40.07 | goozbach | just got bitched out on reddit for signing my posts |
| 19:40.09 | goozbach | :) |
| 19:40.34 | goozbach | so what did I do? said 'sorry' in a signed post |
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| 19:41.00 | skrike | what are you 70? -skrike |
| 19:41.29 | fungus | signed as in full GPG ascii signature? |
| 19:42.35 | fungus | your first problem is visiting reddit, your second is posting on reddit. You don't have a problem with signing. :) |
| 19:43.48 | goozbach | dude called me a 'twat'. |
| 19:43.51 | goozbach | I laughed |
| 19:44.15 | jxqz | haha |
| 19:44.37 | jxqz | reddit is the next digg |
| 19:45.58 | goozbach | it's a great site for looking for new content |
| 19:46.04 | goozbach | true I spend too much time there usually |
| 19:46.12 | jxqz | yeah, but often too much crap to sift through |
| 19:46.32 | stderr- | best fantasy football league on the internet \m/ |
| 19:46.42 | jxqz | it's hard to find good sources of news |
| 19:46.53 | goozbach | but geez, getting your panties in a bunch over how someone posts... |
| 19:48.59 | shalkie | So jsmith, I picked up an old copy of the O'Reilly Asterisk text the other day. I don't know how much royalty you will get off a penny though. ;-) |
| 19:49.12 | shalkie | I do look forward to reading it regardless. |
| 19:50.58 | jsmith | shalkie: Something like three percent of the wholesale price :-p |
| 19:52.27 | eightyeight | goozbach: link? |
| 19:54.51 | Jayce^ | I see, goozbach is trolling for us to go upvote him in the fight |
| 19:54.57 | goozbach | http://www.reddit.com/r/sysadmin/comments/1lc1cq/thickhead_thursday_august_29/cbxuags?context=3 |
| 19:54.59 | goozbach | nah |
| 19:55.03 | goozbach | just wanting a laugh |
| 19:55.55 | eightyeight | heh |
| 19:55.56 | eightyeight | nice |
| 19:56.26 | fadein | goozbach: #lol |
| 19:57.03 | eightyeight | @faedin #iactuallylaughed |
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| 20:10.28 | jlp_znc | bonez2046: did you see your answer over on #bitlbee? |
| 20:12.34 | jlp_znc | bonez2046: looks like you were maybe gone before it went by. basic thought was to check your irssi config for something like "bind host" that is telling it to use an interface that doesn't exist for the local side of the IP connection. |
| 20:23.29 | harleypig_ | does anyone know of a good mock tutorial? |
| 20:23.33 | harleypig_ | I think I've got the basics |
| 20:23.59 | harleypig_ | but I can't find anything that discusses config file customization or actually using for multiple distros |
| 20:24.58 | harleypig_ | I'm especially interested in automation |
| 20:30.10 | Jayce^ | ping fozzmoo about it :) |
| 20:30.21 | fozzmoo | blinks |
| 20:30.46 | fozzmoo | I've done some basic mock stuff for EL6+SCL |
| 20:31.09 | keldwud | harleypig_: config management automation like puppet or chef? or something different? |
| 20:31.20 | keldwud | @help |
| 20:32.12 | fozzmoo | To do what I've done, I copied the epel-6-x86_64.cfg in /etc/mock and created one called epel-6-x86_64-perl514-scl.cfg |
| 20:32.35 | fozzmoo | In there, I've added a local yum repository for all the SCL packages I'm building. |
| 20:32.42 | fozzmoo | baseurl=file:///home/fozz/repos/perl514/ |
| 20:33.17 | fozzmoo | I also had to tweak the config_opts['chroot_setup_cmd'] |
| 20:37.43 | harleypig_ | keldwud: different. rpm creation for multiple distros |
| 20:38.39 | harleypig_ | fozzmoo: So, in the config file the repos section is the equivalent of the /etc/yum.repos.d directory for the chrooted environment? |
| 20:38.46 | fozzmoo | yup. |
| 20:39.01 | harleypig_ | feh ... there's my penchant for making simple things hard again. |
| 20:39.26 | fozzmoo | Rainin' like a bugger here in Herriman... and I didn't even wash my car. |
| 20:39.43 | harleypig_ | Bright and shiny here. |
| 20:40.02 | jsmith | fozzmoo: Lucky you... beats 100 degree heat, right? |
| 20:40.16 | fozzmoo | You need to repos so that mock can install the packages into the chroot'd environment it needs to build the package. |
| 20:40.48 | fozzmoo | That's my only complaint about mock - that it takes a while to resolve all the package dependency business before getting around to actually building. |
| 20:41.05 | fozzmoo | That complaint aside, it's very robust. |
| 20:46.12 | harleypig_ | So, if I'm understanding this correctly, to build an rpm from a spec file using mock, I have to mock -r $CONFIG --buildsrpm ... then cp /var/lib/mock/$CONFIG/result/srpm somewhere, then mock -r $CONFIG /path/to/srpm |
| 20:46.31 | harleypig_ | Am I making it too hard on myself? Am I missing something? |
| 20:49.47 | fozzmoo | That's what I do... |
| 20:50.19 | fozzmoo | For example, here's a real command line from my history: |
| 20:50.19 | fozzmoo | mock -r epel-6-x86_64-perl516-scl --buildsrpm --sources ../SOURCES --spec net-snmp.spec |
| 20:50.35 | fozzmoo | followed by: mock -r epel-6-x86_64-perl516-scl -D "scl perl516" ~/repos/perl516/source/perl516-net-snmp-5.5-44.el6.src.rpm |
| 20:52.09 | harleypig_ | Do you have to manually copy the src rpm from /var/lib/mock/$CONFIG/result to ~/repos/... ? |
| 20:53.25 | fozzmoo | Yeah. |
| 20:53.40 | fozzmoo | There might be a better way to automagificate it... |
| 20:53.50 | harleypig_ | Ok. |
| 20:54.11 | harleypig_ | That was one of my blocking points. Just making it more difficult for myself than I needed to. |
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| 20:55.40 | harleypig_ | what about documentation on the config file? I can't find any, other than the files themselves. |
| 20:57.24 | fozzmoo | Yeah, I don't remember finding any good docs on that either. The file, however, was pretty self-explanatory. |
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| 20:58.07 | fozzmoo | The chroot_setup_cmd is a bit of a stumbling block if you're not super-familiar with 'rpm' syntax |
| 20:58.36 | fozzmoo | For example, the default epel-6-x86_64 config has it set to 'groupinstall buildsys-build' |
| 20:58.52 | fozzmoo | But I needed to install some individual packages for SCL builds... |
| 20:58.56 | harleypig_ | I'm not ... and that's one of the things that was confusing me |
| 20:59.02 | fozzmoo | The solution was to use @group for group installl. |
| 20:59.09 | fozzmoo | config_opts['chroot_setup_cmd'] = 'install @buildsys-build scl-utils-build' |
| 21:00.18 | harleypig_ | so the chroot_setup_cmd has little to do with chroot, but is actually what will be passed to yum? (or rpm?) |
| 21:00.48 | fozzmoo | Yes, it's the packages installed (by yum) once the chroot is set up. |
| 21:00.58 | fozzmoo | The bare minimum needed. |
| 21:01.47 | harleypig_ | that makes more sense |
| 21:03.26 | harleypig_ | Thanks for the help. |
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| 21:06.28 | goozbach | harleypig_: man mock is pretty good |
| 21:07.07 | harleypig_ | yeah, I've read it a few times, but it's not clear to a beginner |
| 21:07.36 | goozbach | gotcha |
| 21:07.38 | harleypig_ | It also doesn't discuss the config file structure |
| 21:07.43 | goozbach | true |
| 21:08.00 | goozbach | one thing that's been rattling around in my brain is a wrapper above mock |
| 21:08.09 | goozbach | that's not nearly as complex as koji |
| 21:08.43 | harleypig_ | mock seems to be high level enough that once its understood it's a really good tool. |
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| 21:09.01 | harleypig_ | I'd be much more interested in more documentation, and a cookbook. |
| 21:10.37 | fozzmoo | Moockbook. |
| 21:10.47 | fozzmoo | rubs his eyes |
| 21:11.05 | harleypig_ | heh |
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| 21:22.08 | fozzmoo | Amarok "Cool Streams" script FTW |
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| 22:33.34 | harleypig_ | fozzmoo: --resultdir let's you change where the srpm is saved to as well as the rpm. |
| 22:33.59 | goozbach | ohhh |
| 22:34.04 | goozbach | no need to pull it out |
| 22:34.16 | goozbach | hey, looking at my scripts... I'm already using that |
| 22:34.24 | goozbach | --resultdir . |
| 22:34.30 | harleypig_ | pulling out is an unreliable method |
| 22:34.41 | goozbach | in this case it's the most reliable |
| 22:35.01 | harleypig_ | heh |
| 22:35.11 | harleypig_ | not to mention disappointing |
| 22:35.36 | harleypig_ | goozbach: are your scripts highly customized? |
| 22:50.55 | fozzmoo | harleypig_: THanks! |
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| 22:52.16 | harleypig_ | fozzmoo: you help me, I help you, we all help each other, we all get better :] |
| 22:52.23 | fozzmoo | Indeed. |
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