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| 09:15.41 | jlp_znc | http://dbareactions.tumblr.com/post/58620406105/when-we-add-an-index-in-production-and-its |
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| 14:54.30 | manithree | jlp_znc: That would be funny if "We thought the timing was just a coincidence" was a little less common. |
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| 15:10.29 | jxqz | why must ubuntu multiply many kernels? |
| 15:10.45 | jxqz | every time I upgrade, there's another one |
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| 15:14.52 | neybar_work | I'm starting to ask "why must ubuntu..." for quite a lot of things. I need another distro. Too lazy to change, but really starting to chafe with ubuntu though. |
| 15:15.14 | jxqz | I looked at arch last night |
| 15:15.41 | jxqz | too much gentoo, might as well go gentoo if you can't just '1-click' install |
| 15:15.50 | jxqz | went from there to plan9 |
| 15:15.52 | jxqz | ... |
| 15:16.23 | jxqz | maybe I'll go back to debian |
| 15:17.07 | jxqz | or it's time for the pendulum to swing back towards fedora |
| 15:18.11 | jxqz | for now I'm on xfce. Fortunately ubuntu hasn't sterilized it yet |
| 15:19.26 | Jayce^ | xfce is what's kept me from wiping and starting over on my last ubuntu boxen |
| 15:22.29 | jxqz | twm ftw |
| 15:26.05 | eightyeight | dwm ftw |
| 15:26.13 | eightyeight | or awesome, if you want to config it |
| 15:26.37 | eightyeight | neybar_work: can't go wrong with debian |
| 15:26.57 | eightyeight | jxqz: arch is good. it's gentoo, but binaries.- |
| 15:27.06 | eightyeight | s/-$// |
| 15:27.09 | eightyeight | aft |
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| 15:39.20 | youtah | http://mathwithbaddrawings.com/2013/08/21/five-math-experts-split-the-check/ |
| 15:42.56 | skrike | an engineer, a mathmetician, a physicist and a computer scientist try to mak a joke. It goes on for 10 pages and isnt funny. The end. |
| 15:44.03 | youtah | quiet skrike ... just because you don't understand! |
| 15:44.18 | skrike | I was a computer scvientist once! |
| 15:44.19 | youtah | picks up a lobster out of a tank, takes the rubber bands off and throws it at skrike |
| 15:44.28 | skrike | for like 6 months! |
| 15:44.34 | skrike | I had a lab coat and everything! |
| 15:44.36 | goozbach | that should be an ibot attach |
| 15:44.39 | goozbach | attack |
| 15:44.43 | goozbach | ~lobster skrike |
| 15:44.46 | youtah | Ha! I was for three semesters! |
| 15:44.48 | youtah | lol |
| 15:45.04 | skrike | damn, youbeat me by 1 semester |
| 15:45.06 | youtah | I agree goozbach |
| 15:45.45 | youtah | Then I switched to Mass Comm. With all the sorority girls. |
| 15:46.25 | skrike | I switched to a career and started making money. |
| 15:46.54 | youtah | Spring break > go to mass comm class > everyone has laptops > 66% of your class is made of cheerleaders & such > They all have facebook open > They all went to Mexico for Spring Break > Very distracting pictures everywhere you turn in class |
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| 15:51.42 | skrike | http://imgur.com/gallery/FDAOvVI |
| 15:52.53 | youtah | LOL |
| 15:52.56 | youtah | Better Call Saul! |
| 15:55.51 | manithree | https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/p480x480/1005804_333621073438990_1568317206_n.jpg |
| 15:56.11 | youtah | WRONG manithree |
| 15:56.23 | youtah | It broke some rules |
| 15:56.26 | manithree | Yep. I saw this last night and had to find the error. |
| 15:56.30 | manithree | Can't reduce by 0 |
| 15:56.31 | youtah | :-) |
| 15:56.34 | youtah | AFK BRB |
| 15:56.50 | youtah | tricky though.... |
| 15:57.51 | jsmith | manithree: Nice one :-) |
| 15:58.24 | jsmith | manithree: My high school algebra teacher whipped that out the first day of class -- and made a good point :-) |
| 15:59.06 | skrike | youre high school math teacher whipped it out on the first day of class? Do... you want to talk about it? Let me get the doll and you show me where he touched you. |
| 16:02.44 | skrike | ugh.your. |
| 16:02.46 | skrike | WHATEVER. |
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| 16:05.00 | youtah | back |
| 16:05.15 | youtah | I can't even comprehend what's happening in Syria right now |
| 16:07.16 | skrike | phosphorus? |
| 16:07.32 | youtah | 1300 bodies dead |
| 16:07.37 | skrike | jeebus. |
| 16:07.47 | youtah | estimated 40% are children |
| 16:08.08 | youtah | the Government fired rockets on a bunch of cities |
| 16:08.13 | youtah | Chemical weapons |
| 16:08.36 | youtah | Looking at the pics last night on twitter made me almost vomit. Literally. |
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| 16:08.50 | youtah | The UN is scrambling righ tnow |
| 16:09.45 | youtah | (topic change) http://money.cnn.com/2013/08/22/real_estate/mortgage-rate/index.html?hpt=hp_t2 << Yup, just right before I am supposed to close on my new home. |
| 16:11.32 | youtah | Back to Syria (Very tame photos) http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887324165204579026123332790830.html |
| 16:11.45 | youtah | just dont click the slide show |
| 16:11.50 | youtah | I haven't checked to see what's in it |
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| 16:19.44 | skrike | wow |
| 16:19.47 | skrike | Id lose my mind |
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| 16:39.36 | youtah | http://500px.com/photo/4130940 |
| 16:40.17 | skrike | whoa |
| 16:40.26 | youtah | Yeah |
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| 17:02.58 | romanovic | reminds me of the images after Saddam Hussein killed 1000's of Kurds using chemical weapons |
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| 17:03.55 | goozbach | having issues with a bridge interface |
| 17:04.12 | goozbach | i've got it defined properly in /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-br0 |
| 17:04.28 | goozbach | and it's using eth0 and the file is right in /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0 |
| 17:04.49 | goozbach | when I run 'ifup br0' it works |
| 17:04.55 | goozbach | but not when doing service network restart' |
| 17:05.11 | goozbach | any ideas? |
| 17:05.32 | jxqz | thinks goozbach is the expert |
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| 17:08.50 | manithree | does ifcfg-br0 have ONBOOT="yes" ? |
| 17:09.04 | goozbach | yup |
| 17:17.46 | goozbach | GRRR figured it out |
| 17:17.58 | goozbach | TYPE=Bridge instead of TYPE=Ethernet |
| 17:22.24 | fozzmoo | \o/ |
| 17:25.49 | goozbach | freakin A that was more difficult than it should have been |
| 17:26.13 | goozbach | it's what happens when you mix stress with stress and sprinkle in impatiecence |
| 17:26.41 | jsmith | goozbach: You didn't mention ignorance :-p |
| 17:26.44 | jsmith | ducks and hides :-p |
| 17:27.00 | jsmith | goozbach: Or a good ear-worm to make you even more impatient :-p |
| 17:29.01 | jsmith | goozbach: How have you been, anyway? |
| 17:29.46 | Jayce^ | toot-toot? |
| 17:31.06 | Jayce^ | begins whistling bridge-over-the-rive-kwai |
| 17:31.12 | Jayce^ | ... in the dark.. |
| 17:31.18 | goozbach | Jayce^: not too bad, busy, behind schedule, expecting spawn #2 any momemnt now (he's behind schedule now) |
| 17:31.24 | goozbach | er jsmith that was for you |
| 17:31.38 | Jayce^ | because there's nothing I'd rather do than whistling in the dark |
| 17:31.47 | Jayce^ | goozbach: you hadn't mentioned you'd forked again.. |
| 17:33.18 | goozbach | just finishing the "init" |
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| 17:53.02 | Jayce^ | http://www.getprsm.com/ |
| 18:09.09 | jxqz | hm, next buzzfeed article: 1337 ways your life would be better if you were a github project |
| 18:09.18 | manithree | Jayce^: I know some google employees who would take exception to that. |
| 18:11.14 | Gate | jxqz: I'd get way more hardcore forking action? |
| 18:44.08 | jxqz | is there an easy way to grab data out of a column of an html table? |
| 18:44.41 | skrike | break the window, grab the table, throw it in a bag and run. |
| 18:44.54 | jxqz | easy being not having to work out a multiline mechanize script |
| 18:45.25 | jxqz | skrike: yes, but how do I only grab one of the table columns and leave the rest before running? |
| 18:45.33 | jxqz | what tool makes this possible? |
| 18:45.48 | skrike | Im going to guess xml. |
| 18:45.56 | skrike | <-- not helping. |
| 18:46.06 | jxqz | ~sjansen xml |
| 18:46.06 | infobot | ACTION tells xml good things about sjansen |
| 18:46.46 | jxqz | why doesn't firefox have a vertical select, like vim |
| 18:46.48 | jxqz | duh |
| 18:47.10 | jxqz | the world would bge paradise if all UIs were vim |
| 18:47.17 | jxqz | s/g// |
| 18:53.37 | jxqz | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:54.00 | jxqz | in lowriter I can just delete the table columns I don't want |
| 18:58.20 | goozbach | jxqz: html parser combined with 'col' or 'paste' whichever of those unix commands does it |
| 19:01.54 | jxqz | should have known goozbach to come through with a shell magic |
| 19:02.11 | goozbach | shell magick? |
| 19:02.17 | goozbach | It was a shot in the dark |
| 19:02.22 | goozbach | no idea if it works |
| 19:03.37 | jxqz | me neither, but it sounds like a good start |
| 19:04.12 | jxqz | but I've already deleted unwanted columns in lowriter |
| 19:19.29 | harleypig | I'm trying to think of what else I would use to send a message to someone ... so far I've used gtalk, pm in irc, fb message, fb post on their timeline |
| 19:19.35 | harleypig | oh, right g+ |
| 19:19.57 | harleypig | I can't believe I didn't think about twitter or email ... |
| 19:20.08 | goozbach | twitter DM, ICQ, email, 1st class letter |
| 19:20.18 | goozbach | ham radio |
| 19:20.23 | harleypig | nah, snail mail is too slow |
| 19:20.31 | goozbach | string and can phone |
| 19:20.35 | harleypig | and I don't have a ham license ... though I should |
| 19:20.45 | goozbach | the snail mail would be funny though |
| 19:20.50 | goozbach | like three days from now... |
| 19:20.57 | goozbach | a second laugh |
| 19:21.04 | keldwud_ | what would reasonable wages for a contract Sr Admin to mentor / train a jr sysadmin on the following: |
| 19:21.17 | jsmith | goozbach: Has Jayce^ convinced you to buy a new HT yet? |
| 19:21.19 | harleypig | goozbach: it would, I didn't think of that. |
| 19:21.34 | goozbach | HT? |
| 19:21.34 | harleypig | keldwud_: whatever they're offering, tack on 10% |
| 19:21.37 | keldwud_ | config management (Puppet), cloudstack, ceph, provisioning, networking, monitoring |
| 19:21.43 | harleypig | Hot Toddy? |
| 19:21.51 | goozbach | hat tip? |
| 19:21.51 | keldwud_ | harleypig: this is the other way around, I'm not a sr |
| 19:21.52 | keldwud_ | I'm the jr |
| 19:22.07 | goozbach | keldwud_: then offer 10% more |
| 19:22.09 | goozbach | :) |
| 19:22.11 | keldwud_ | I have a decent understanding of networking basics and have our provisioning process down |
| 19:22.14 | keldwud_ | goozbach: lol :) |
| 19:22.33 | keldwud_ | and I think I could get nagios and icinga up and running on my own |
| 19:22.39 | goozbach | what are you looking for |
| 19:22.43 | keldwud_ | but I'm weak on puppet and dhcp and dns |
| 19:22.43 | harleypig | keldwud_: oh ... then subtract 10% |
| 19:22.44 | goozbach | consulting or training |
| 19:22.49 | keldwud_ | goozbach: both? |
| 19:22.53 | keldwud_ | not consulting |
| 19:22.58 | keldwud_ | we already have our infrastructure designed |
| 19:23.13 | keldwud_ | my two seniors, they have too much of a workload to share knowledge with me |
| 19:23.16 | keldwud_ | and the bottleneck is me |
| 19:23.25 | goozbach | ahh so there is a senior |
| 19:23.26 | keldwud_ | because my self paced training isn't quick enough |
| 19:23.29 | keldwud_ | well not really |
| 19:23.29 | jsmith | goozbach: HT - (Repeater Term) Handi-Talkie - a small hand held radio |
| 19:23.34 | keldwud_ | they are supposed to be developing |
| 19:23.48 | keldwud_ | I have a CTO in boulder, and my ex-CEO local |
| 19:23.56 | goozbach | the biggest problem in that situation is that it'll take too long for someone to get up to speed with your env to train you on it |
| 19:24.00 | keldwud_ | ex-CEO being sysadmin/dev for 15 years |
| 19:24.13 | goozbach | if you're looking for generic stuff, let's chat |
| 19:24.19 | keldwud_ | goozbach: well I'm proficient enough to know my environment well enough to train my potential Senior on it |
| 19:24.25 | keldwud_ | and I've documented my environment decently well |
| 19:24.38 | goozbach | I can come up with some exercises to help you learn dhcp/dns/puppet |
| 19:24.41 | keldwud_ | it would only take me a couple weeks to bring somebody up to speed |
| 19:25.02 | keldwud_ | but I'm trying to figure out reasonable wages to offer somebody |
| 19:25.10 | keldwud_ | like, what is practical and not insulting yet still affordable? |
| 19:25.16 | keldwud_ | somebody mentioned maybe 50% above my payrate |
| 19:25.25 | keldwud_ | and a 3 or 6 month contract |
| 19:25.59 | goozbach | if it's generic I'd start at $85-90 hr which is a good going rate for a trainer |
| 19:27.44 | keldwud_ | yeah, I was also thinking logistically it might be better to ask somebody for 20 hours per week instead of 40 |
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| 20:50.07 | keldwud_ | http://www.mocavo.com/jobs/ftdevops |
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| 21:05.20 | keldwud_ | hmm.. can guru labs teach ngninx? |
| 21:05.24 | keldwud_ | *nginx |
| 21:05.44 | keldwud_ | their search feature turned up nothing |
| 21:05.54 | keldwud_ | but that doesn't mean that they can't oh hey, I'll call the number :) |
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| 21:35.24 | youtah | http://i.imgur.com/staMNLO.gif |
| 21:35.55 | Gate | really? Hipster nerds defacing bumpers? |
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| 21:44.54 | manithree | My sister had an Acura Inegra LS that said "Integra LS" on the back. She was a math major, so I had to give her a hard time about that. |
| 21:50.02 | Gate | I had a math professor in college who tried to get a vanity plate for his scooter with the plate "dy/dx" |
| 21:50.17 | Gate | He was rejected beause the DMV thought it was a drug reference. |
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| 21:51.44 | youtah | lol |
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| 22:09.01 | unum | I have a select statement is postgresql where I am doing some complicated stuff and then I name so blah blah blah as foo |
| 22:09.16 | unum | I can do order by foo, but I can't do order by foo::TIME |
| 22:09.52 | unum | never mind |
| 22:09.54 | unum | easy answer |
| 22:10.42 | unum | oops nm |
| 22:10.46 | unum | I still need help |
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| 23:27.33 | youtah | New Transformers Trailer http://imgur.com/gallery/XJ4lTxV |
| 23:32.03 | keldwud_ | hyuk hyuk hyuk |
