| 00:00.00 | romanovic | Same with movies (which usually aren't open format, but remorse = 0 when acquiring open copies of movies already paid for) |
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| 01:12.40 | harleypig | I know how to change system settings using sysctl and sysctl.conf. Is there a way to modify settings in sysctl.conf via commandline? |
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| 01:13.46 | harleypig | E.g., something like sysctl --write-to-file net.ipv4.ip_forward=1 and sysctl now has that value for that key |
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| 05:14.58 | L34N | screen 3 |
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| 07:07.25 | youtah | Nachos |
| 07:09.21 | L34N | mmmmm... nachos |
| 07:11.24 | youtah | Woo hoo! I am not the only one alive at this hour! |
| 07:11.31 | youtah | high fives L34N |
| 07:41.14 | JalenJade | I'm always up at this hour |
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| 11:53.25 | goozbach | harleypig: not directly IIRC but there's a sysctl ansible module |
| 11:53.36 | goozbach | you *ARE* using ansible, right? :) |
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| 14:05.55 | keldwud | omg nostalgia |
| 14:05.56 | keldwud | http://youtu.be/ohqhL7nUjX0 |
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| 14:33.45 | ezakimak_work | so, attempting to connect to uccu.com w/konqueror and I get a certificate warning. I check the details and it claims that the top-level verisign class 3 primary CA is invalid... |
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| 14:47.10 | ezakimak_work | interesting, the cert sent by the uccu server for verisign class 3 g5 doesn't match the same one i have installed on my system |
| 14:55.27 | ezakimak_work | actually, it's a cert sent from intuit |
| 14:57.54 | manithree | I just tried https://www.uccu.com in konqueror (Fedora 19) and didn't get any cert warning (I got the green "check" shield in the URL bar) |
| 14:58.31 | ezakimak_work | i only get it from some extra connection to an intuit.com server, not the main uccu.com |
| 14:58.45 | ezakimak_work | but the certs definitely were different. |
| 14:59.02 | ezakimak_work | cancelling that one and the rest of the uccu site worked fine |
| 14:59.50 | ezakimak_work | sci.intuit.com |
| 15:02.29 | manithree | I logged in, still no warnings. |
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| 15:03.30 | manithree | I haven't used konqueror for a while. I think I might now. |
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| 16:19.22 | youtah | Someone's watching you ezakimak_work |
| 16:19.24 | youtah | ;-) |
| 16:19.59 | youtah | Cert is okay for uccu.com on Ubuntu w/ Google Chrome. |
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| 16:22.44 | jlp_znc | http://picpaste.com/linkedin_ugly_email-555g38fS.png <- come on, linkedin, at least /try/ to get your e-mails to look decent in a non-html mailer. |
| 16:23.15 | youtah | ROFL |
| 16:24.32 | youtah | So. I was trying to take pictures of bats, flying at night, in the dark, without any sort of assisted light (aka flashes). This is about the best one I got: https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/1150886_10201894365024992_1236474987_n.jpg |
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| 16:49.21 | jlp_znc | "Bats nearby!" |
| 16:49.59 | jlp_znc | ~wumpus |
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| 16:50.30 | jlp_znc | oh ibot, why hast thou forsaken us? |
| 16:50.52 | jlp_znc | infobot: 'sup? |
| 16:50.57 | youtah | what happened while my machine was dead? |
| 16:51.10 | jlp_znc | nada mucho |
| 16:51.38 | eightyeight | jlp_znc: what client is that with the linkedin email? |
| 16:51.47 | jlp_znc | thunderbird |
| 16:52.00 | eightyeight | thunderbird is a non-html mailer? |
| 16:52.10 | fugue88 | Looked like html w/o images, to me. |
| 16:52.13 | jlp_znc | thunder thunder, thunder thunder biiiird |
| 16:52.24 | jlp_znc | well, I have it set to prefer text |
| 16:52.35 | jlp_znc | but yeah, it did look like html without images |
| 16:52.37 | fugue88 | jlp_znc: That's likely just for composition. |
| 16:52.45 | fugue88 | The "prefer text" setting. |
| 16:52.45 | eightyeight | i agree with fugue88. that looks like rendered html |
| 16:54.18 | jlp_znc | it does look better with images loaded, but why, oh why would you use an image for a bullet *and* make the alt text "Bullet" |
| 16:55.04 | jlp_znc | hmmm, if I switch the message view to "plain text", it looks really really bad. especially when it starts with "Please view this email in a browser" |
| 16:55.43 | eightyeight | mind forwarding the email to me? i'm curious how w3m would parse it, and how it would look in mutt |
| 16:56.02 | jlp_znc | pm me your address |
| 16:58.59 | goozbach | the internet must be fractured from ATH, there are large swaths I can't connect to |
| 16:59.35 | goozbach | xmission, americanfirst, parts of github, my client in CA, facebook seems to be hit and miss |
| 17:01.29 | eightyeight | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:01.39 | eightyeight | what does your path look like? |
| 17:03.10 | goozbach | hah! now I mention it it comes up |
| 17:03.13 | goozbach | grrr |
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| 17:08.07 | goozbach | or maybe it's a connection limit on mirror.xmission.com |
| 17:08.45 | goozbach | nope! it's charter in GA |
| 17:08.49 | goozbach | 7 different paths |
| 17:10.12 | goozbach | so my original hyphtosis is right, my ISP is borked |
| 17:11.20 | av9 | goozbach: have a vps? |
| 17:11.27 | av9 | and can you get to it? |
| 17:11.42 | goozbach | av9: yeah, that's how I'm IRCing my linode |
| 17:11.44 | av9 | socks5 over ssh is really easy to set up in a pinch. |
| 17:11.46 | youtah | goozbach, ATH? |
| 17:18.55 | goozbach | athens ga |
| 17:19.05 | goozbach | av9: I keep meaning to do that |
| 17:19.26 | goozbach | what I really want to do is setup openvpn over https so I can get anwhere when I'm on really restrictive networks |
| 17:20.11 | av9 | Yeah, you wouldn't want to use socks over ssh full time, there's too much encryption overhead. |
| 17:20.14 | av9 | but openvpn is a good solution. |
| 17:20.30 | goozbach | but alas no time |
| 17:20.45 | av9 | back when the olympics were in the uk, i spun up a linode uk instance, proxied over ssh, and tuned into the bbc. |
| 17:21.04 | av9 | because i didn't have cab.e |
| 17:21.06 | av9 | cable* |
| 17:21.17 | Jayce^ | goozbach: ditto, keep not having time to just do it |
| 17:21.53 | av9 | i'm lucky in that i can base a working config on the one we use at the office. |
| 17:22.00 | av9 | if i get around to setting it up. |
| 17:22.13 | goozbach | av9: I'm thinking of doing the same for next season of Downton Abby |
| 17:22.23 | av9 | it was super easy. |
| 17:22.47 | Jayce^ | aaaand everybody give goozbach a funny look.. |
| 17:22.56 | av9 | pfft, downton abbey is awesome. |
| 17:23.04 | av9 | I've only seen the first season, though. |
| 17:24.27 | goozbach | Jayce^: I thought so too |
| 17:24.32 | goozbach | then I started watching it |
| 17:24.34 | goozbach | it's awesome! |
| 17:24.46 | Jayce^ | my wife watches it while I'm working on other stuff |
| 17:25.01 | Jayce^ | so I'm in the same room as it |
| 17:25.20 | goozbach | meh /me looks at Jayce^ as an uncultured cretin |
| 17:25.22 | goozbach | :) |
| 17:25.52 | Jayce^ | take your cucumber crustless sandwich and tea, and go somewhere else :-p |
| 17:26.23 | Jayce^ | not enough time for so much TV... although I did finally just catch up on Community |
| 17:26.27 | Jayce^ | now that's a winner |
| 17:26.59 | goozbach | I started that during a free trial to hulu plus |
| 17:27.07 | goozbach | got through 2.5 seasons |
| 17:27.12 | goozbach | guess I'm gonna have to pay now |
| 17:27.24 | Jayce^ | ...yeah... pay... |
| 17:28.38 | goozbach | seaons 3 and 4 are worth it? |
| 17:29.05 | Jayce^ | yeah, 4 get's a little dark but picks back up.. they have the producer from 1-3 back for 5 |
| 17:29.19 | Jayce^ | the whole Inspector SpacteTime bit is great |
| 17:31.03 | goozbach | the conference they go to? |
| 17:31.06 | goozbach | I've seen that one |
| 17:31.17 | goozbach | and one or two of the changnesia ones |
| 17:32.00 | goozbach | the paintball eps are good but 100% cringe worthy without the face protection |
| 17:32.11 | goozbach | kept flinching as muzzles flashed around |
| 17:32.11 | Jayce^ | right |
| 17:32.22 | Jayce^ | hilarious though |
| 17:32.24 | goozbach | *ooh that's an eye* |
| 17:34.16 | goozbach | I have a man crush on donald glover since his derrick comedy days |
| 17:34.33 | goozbach | "I'm having an AFFAIR!.... With this jar of peanut butter!" |
| 17:34.50 | goozbach | "love you squirrelface" |
| 17:35.09 | Jayce^ | Tory and Abed in the moooorning |
| 17:41.06 | goozbach | puppets *AND* singing! |
| 17:41.08 | goozbach | oh my |
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| 17:47.50 | Jayce^ | claymation episode too |
| 17:47.55 | Jayce^ | and the 8-bit episode was great |
| 17:48.39 | goozbach | saw the claymation one |
| 17:48.45 | goozbach | "square!" |
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| 18:15.57 | harleypig | gah! Github is down! |
| 18:17.19 | harleypig | ... it's back up |
| 18:17.24 | harleypig | that was a scary few minutes |
| 18:18.12 | harleypig | goozbach: If I've heard of ansible I'd forgotten about it. How is it different from chef, puppet, salt and friends? |
| 18:18.42 | Migs | https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-bkAJkc1GxYQ/UgsepQoSvQI/AAAAAAAABOM/NQCCvB2rnBQ/w426-h537/programmer.jpg |
| 18:19.40 | harleypig | And all those people standing around the guy in the hole get paid at least 30% more |
| 18:22.34 | fugue88 | Migs: Isn't that just "pair programming"? ;) |
| 18:23.54 | Migs | what would you call that, though? octuple programming? |
| 18:23.58 | harleypig | The HR pairs with the PR, The Marketing pairs with Product, Logistic pairs with Internal, Communication pairs with Security, IT pairs with Project |
| 18:24.49 | harleypig | As a group they pair with the programmer and the programmer gets to do whatever the other half of the pair says. |
| 18:25.13 | fugue88 | harleypig: Oh man, that sounds way too grounded in reality. |
| 18:25.16 | Migs | sounds like one giant coding lovefest |
| 18:25.16 | fugue88 | :'( |
| 18:25.28 | goozbach | it's in the same field |
| 18:25.32 | goozbach | it's mucho simpler |
| 18:25.41 | harleypig | fugue88: like, personal experience maybe :/ |
| 18:25.47 | goozbach | and only requires ssh and python-json on the target |
| 18:26.22 | harleypig | hmm ... I'll have to take a look |
| 18:26.38 | goozbach | it's worth it |
| 18:26.52 | goozbach | you can be from zero to first 'task' in under 5 min |
| 18:27.00 | goozbach | that'll hook you |
| 18:27.54 | harleypig | I need to create custom iso's ... how much setup is there on a brand new system? |
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| 18:29.50 | goozbach | setup to have an ansible guest? |
| 18:29.59 | goozbach | umm ssh-copy-id root@host |
| 18:30.09 | goozbach | edit ansible hosts file |
| 18:30.13 | goozbach | ansible -m ping hostname |
| 18:30.32 | goozbach | but if you're creating iso images it might not be what you're looking for |
| 18:30.37 | goozbach | here's a puzzler |
| 18:30.46 | goozbach | I've got a kvm based virtualziation setup |
| 18:30.55 | goozbach | the customer wants to easily resize guests |
| 18:30.59 | harleypig | I'm creating iso images that create custom system setup |
| 18:31.01 | goozbach | how do you go about that |
| 18:31.18 | goozbach | ahh embedding it into an iso shouldn't be hard |
| 18:31.42 | goozbach | you add some python packages, create a hostsfile (this case localhost) |
| 18:31.48 | goozbach | create a playbook (pretty simple) |
| 18:31.52 | goozbach | and you're done |
| 18:32.11 | harleypig | I am reading the ansible site now |
| 18:32.15 | goozbach | why are build servers so complex? |
| 18:32.28 | harleypig | as for resizing, making a filesystem larger is simple |
| 18:32.37 | harleypig | making it smaller is ... problematic |
| 18:32.42 | goozbach | harleypig: yeah, until you want to make it idiotprooof |
| 18:32.54 | goozbach | virt-resize is close, but it requires two disks |
| 18:33.21 | harleypig | goozbach: oh ... idiot proof is impossible |
| 18:34.03 | harleypig | the best solution for that, I've found, is to write to specific goals ... you define how the resize is to be done and the user gets to use it, or strike out on their own |
| 18:34.17 | harleypig | or pay you for another custom script (or modification to the current custom script) |
| 18:36.08 | goozbach | we're using solusvm as the management engine |
| 18:36.29 | goozbach | they're essentially writing it off "oh we can't do KVM resizes only openVZ" |
| 18:36.36 | goozbach | I've done one manually |
| 18:37.12 | goozbach | but it's shutdown, resize host LV, parted the guest to move swap to end of disk, use parted to resize /, boot VM |
| 18:37.21 | goozbach | can't do that for every request |
| 18:37.47 | harleypig | you don't need to shutdown if the kernel and filesystem support live modification |
| 18:37.58 | harleypig | s/modification/resizing/ |
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| 18:40.16 | goozbach | the disk layout is kinda like this: |
| 18:40.25 | goozbach | part1 / ext4 :: swap |
| 18:41.28 | goozbach | which is how solus wants it to do resize on create |
| 18:41.47 | goozbach | but doing a resize live (which I know is possible) is somehow out of their reach |
| 18:43.33 | harleypig | that's bizarre |
| 18:44.48 | goozbach | if it was |
| 18:44.50 | harleypig | solusvm website says it's unavailable |
| 18:45.14 | goozbach | swap :: / |
| 18:45.22 | goozbach | it'd be easier to script at least |
| 18:48.36 | harleypig | I don't have enough experience with kvm ... |
| 18:49.30 | harleypig | but it seems to me that making your virtual disk larger should be uncoupled from making the associated filesystem larger |
| 18:49.45 | harleypig | should not be coupled? |
| 18:49.52 | goozbach | yeah |
| 18:50.09 | goozbach | I wanted to get openstack into this env, but wasn't able to get it going in time |
| 18:50.19 | goozbach | openstack is too damn complicated anyway |
| 18:50.23 | rog3r | amen |
| 18:50.31 | harleypig | heh |
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| 20:11.28 | jlp_znc | LVM goes a long way to making live resizing doable. |
| 20:11.54 | jlp_znc | gets rid of the repartitioning stage, which is the most painful (and can require a reboot on some systems) |
| 20:12.25 | eightyeight | and zfs takes it a step further |
| 20:12.40 | jlp_znc | essentially, you add a new "disk", put a new PV on it, add the PV to the VG, lvextend the LV onto it and then grow the filesystem. |
| 20:12.41 | eightyeight | no need to worry about resizing datasets (volumes) |
| 20:13.25 | jlp_znc | yeah, zfs is great. add a new zdev, add it to the zpool, you're done. |
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| 21:32.54 | jlp_znc | SMBC yesterday was pretty good |
| 21:33.13 | jlp_znc | http://www.smbc-comics.com/index.php?db=comics&id=3081 |
| 21:50.53 | manithree | jlp_znc: lol |
| 21:58.13 | Jayce^ | harleypig has a new kryptonite... http://www.latimes.com/features/food/dailydish/la-dd-pepsi-flavored-cheetos-20130815,0,5513075.story |
| 21:58.47 | harleypig_ | nope |
| 21:58.49 | harleypig_ | nope nope |
| 21:58.58 | harleypig_ | nope nope nope nope nope nope nope nope nope nope nope nope nope nope nope nope nope nope nope nope nope nope nope nope nope nope nope nope nope nope nope nope |
| 21:59.04 | Jayce^ | dude, you're ready to fly to japan to pick some up... |
| 21:59.25 | harleypig | It's a good thing I'm on a no-fly list ... |
| 21:59.42 | harleypig | or will be soon |
| 22:00.36 | Jayce^ | ~echelon fodder |
| 22:00.37 | infobot | methinks echelon fodder is Bush, Uranium, Dirty Bomb, Jihad, Allah Akbar, TNT, Rent a van, assassination , NSA, wiretaps, sleeper cell, suicide bomb, vest, Oklahoma City, Waco, revenge, anthrax, virgins, fuse, great celebration, July 4th, detcord, martyr, timer, backpack, subway. Ruby Ridge, or kill all infidels |
| 22:00.57 | Jayce^ | ooh, need to add pressure cooker and backpack to that list |
| 22:00.57 | harleypig | obama hates clowns |
| 22:01.12 | Jayce^ | ~harleypig++ |
| 22:01.35 | harleypig | obama is a poopoo head |
| 22:01.44 | harleypig | wonder how that one would go over |
| 22:01.50 | harleypig | I think I'll post that on fb ... |
| 22:02.00 | manithree | thinks he hears a drone |
| 22:02.32 | harleypig | it's illegal to notice a drone flying overhead |
| 22:03.14 | Jayce^ | or comment on them |
| 22:03.31 | harleypig | or shoot them down |
| 22:03.49 | Jayce^ | or hack their fragile software |
| 22:04.41 | harleypig | yeah, it'd be funny to have a realtime map of open networks and watch ssid 'ImNotADrone' circle ... |
| 22:05.16 | Jayce^ | put that next to FBI VAN 4 |
| 22:05.50 | harleypig | I thought that was FB IVAN 4 |
| 22:06.04 | manithree | Crazy IVAN! |
| 22:07.12 | Jayce^ | needs a couple more old WAP's to setup some more passive aggressive null-route points |
| 22:07.28 | Jayce^ | I have one that I rotate, and have it route all traffic to fun stuff |
| 22:07.35 | Jayce^ | right now it's on the "I read your email" |
| 22:07.44 | harleypig | White Anglo-Saxon Prince's? |
| 22:08.13 | harleypig | Willy A* Peter? |
| 22:08.34 | harleypig | White As Pine? |
| 22:08.40 | harleypig | sorry ... |
| 22:08.43 | harleypig | I'll shut up |
| 22:08.45 | harleypig | for now |
| 22:11.27 | Jayce^ | nice addition to the fodder: http://www.eecs.berkeley.edu/Pubs/TechRpts/2013/EECS-2013-128.pdf |
| 22:11.32 | Jayce^ | Rangzen: Circumventing Government-Imposed |
| 22:11.34 | Jayce^ | Communication Blackouts |
| 22:12.10 | harleypig | Hmmm ... at least two jewish folk on that ... welcome to the watch list! |
| 22:12.39 | harleypig | ummm ... those were two separate thoughts that came out at approximately the same time ... |
| 22:12.51 | Jayce^ | riiiiight |
| 22:14.12 | Jayce^ | oh, and if you needed to waste other time: http://www.implicitcad.org/ |
| 22:14.31 | Jayce^ | cad, using haskell as the modeling language... |
| 22:14.52 | Jayce^ | and web interface on that site if you want :) |
| 22:15.21 | harleypig_ | <chong>oh wow, man</chong> |
| 22:15.48 | Jayce^ | so @obra posted it, loved his statement, "MONADS MUST NOT BE ALLOWED TO LEAK INTO PHYSICAL SPACE!" |
| 22:16.50 | Jayce^ | levi: you might like that package (implicitcad.org) |
| 22:17.54 | harleypig_ | What's wrong with monads in physical space? If that happened, then we would be able to enter cyberspace ... |
| 22:18.43 | *** join/#utah NoCoolName_Tom (~NoCoolNam@64.124.34.2) |
| 22:18.44 | Jayce^ | you're getting too into shadowrun :-p |
| 22:19.05 | Jayce^ | need to create a decker char so I can try that out |
| 22:19.37 | jlp_znc | A teenage boy had just passed his driving test and inquired of his father as to when they could discuss his use of the car. |
| 22:20.07 | jlp_znc | His father said he'd make a deal with his son: "You bring your grades up from a C to a B average, study your Bible, and get your hair cut. Then we'll talk about the car." |
| 22:20.09 | Jayce^ | did the topic of the weather in hell come up? |
| 22:20.22 | jlp_znc | The boy thought about that for a moment, decided he'd settle for the offer, and they agreed on it. |
| 22:21.01 | jlp_znc | After about six weeks his father said, "Son, you've brought your grades up and I've observed that you have been studying your Bible, but I'm disappointed you haven't had your hair cut." |
| 22:21.25 | jlp_znc | The boy said, "You know, Dad, I've been thinking about that, and I've noticed in my studies of the Bible that Samson had long hair, John the Baptist had long hair, Moses had long hair ~ ~ ~ and there's even strong evidence that Jesus had long hair." |
| 22:21.36 | jlp_znc | Dad replied... |
| 22:21.42 | jlp_znc | wait for it... |
| 22:21.48 | jlp_znc | "Did you also notice that they all walked everywhere they went?" |
| 22:23.30 | jlp_znc | ba dump dum, ting! |
| 22:23.45 | jlp_znc | sheesh, tough channel |
| 22:24.41 | harleypig_ | jlp_znc: that's kind of old |
| 22:24.44 | Jayce^ | just started teaching my son how to start working on the landcruiser, so it'll be in shape for when he's old enough to drive |
| 22:24.57 | Jayce^ | time to start making him do some body/engine work |
| 22:25.04 | jlp_znc | harleypig_: well, I did get it from my dad |
| 22:25.14 | harleypig_ | hah |
| 22:26.28 | youtah | Who was it that was complaining about the internet being slow today? |
| 22:27.08 | youtah | Friend of mine just posted "internet is slow today, wonder what is going on..." along with https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/554984_10151601290638737_746228764_n.jpg |
| 22:31.27 | *** join/#utah keldwud (~quassel@unaffiliated/keldwud) |
| 22:31.37 | youtah | http://www.internetpulse.net/Main.aspx?xAxis=Metric&yAxis=Origin&zAxis=Destination&nAxis=Period |
| 23:04.04 | rog3r | Elysium was neat. |
| 23:07.14 | youtah | jlp_znc, https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/1146901_10151554885330785_293333339_o.jpg |
| 23:09.42 | jlp_znc | http://spacenear.us/tracker/ |
| 23:12.45 | youtah | You guys!!!! I'm not going to be homeless anymore! |
| 23:16.25 | keldwud | what? you're homeless? |
| 23:16.29 | keldwud | I've a room available |
| 23:16.33 | keldwud | well, for rent |
| 23:16.40 | keldwud | also, 'grats |
| 23:16.43 | youtah | lol, no thanks keldwud |
| 23:16.59 | youtah | We're living in my parents basement right now until my house is finished being built |
| 23:17.04 | youtah | I can't wait to get out of the basement |
| 23:17.18 | youtah | I'm SO super appreciative of them, for letting us stay in the basement |
| 23:17.26 | youtah | but I am also so, ready, to have my own place again. |
| 23:17.30 | youtah | and privacy |
| 23:24.37 | jlp_znc | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wf8e_Ivi72Q <- this guy is pretty crazy |
| 23:50.12 | *** part/#utah Nemus (~Nemus@unaffiliated/nemus) |
