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| 00:07.16 | jlp_znc | I recall my old mail order prescription site had a little password issue... I assume they used a "unique" data type as when I tried to create an account for my wife with the same password as mine, it said something like "your password must be unique". |
| 00:07.24 | jlp_znc | terrible terrible |
| 00:07.55 | jlp_znc | I think that may have been medco, but I'm not 100% sure. it's not the same as the company we use now, though. |
| 00:08.16 | jlp_znc | shalkie: sounds like it's time for a phone call |
| 00:09.21 | jlp_znc | you could send an e-mail (from your account with the + in the address... I love doing that) to webmaster@bn.com and/or postmaster@bn.com and see what happens. unfortunately, what will happen is likely to be that your message goes into a black hole and is never seen nor heard from again. |
| 00:09.52 | jlp_znc | do you have a nook (or nook app)? maybe you can still log in via that? |
| 00:10.35 | shalkie | I do have a nook, and I haven't tried yet. |
| 00:11.15 | shalkie | However at the moment I am going to be tied to my laptop and I have the dual screen going on and figured I could read from the web and not the nook. Looks like that is out the window. |
| 00:11.41 | shalkie | As for the email, I was going to do the chat and point out that they spammed me at that address today. :-) |
| 00:11.53 | jlp_znc | do you have the nook app on your laptop or were you just using the browser interface? |
| 00:12.13 | shalkie | This was just trying to sign into "my account" through the web interface. |
| 00:12.25 | jlp_znc | :-) I love sending them e-mail from the account that is "invalid". |
| 00:12.45 | shalkie | yeah, that is probably the winning approach. |
| 00:12.53 | jlp_znc | windows laptop or linux? (or, gasp, macos?) |
| 00:13.05 | shalkie | Ancient Fedora. ;-) |
| 00:13.17 | jlp_znc | well, probably no nook app for that, then. |
| 00:13.17 | shalkie | Firefox22 |
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| 00:16.08 | jxqz | hasn't BN imploded yet? |
| 00:16.11 | shalkie | jlp_znc: It isn't really a "platform" thing though. And it isn't even that they no longer accept '+' in the email. It is that they broke a working config with out notice. I can't even login to change the email address at this point. |
| 00:16.37 | jxqz | thought of a really good business model for physical stores that are being liquidated by online commerce |
| 00:16.43 | jxqz | I wish I could remember it |
| 00:16.55 | jlp_znc | you gotta write that stuff down, jxqz |
| 00:16.56 | shalkie | I have to sign in to send them email?!?!?! |
| 00:17.10 | shalkie | falls to the ground spitting curse words |
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| 00:17.26 | jxqz | basically you provide the kind of service with your infrastructure that online store's can't |
| 00:17.37 | jxqz | so that your business complements them rather than competes |
| 00:18.02 | jxqz | like, I just went to Peter Prier's violins today to buy some viola rosin |
| 00:18.04 | jlp_znc | shalkie: call them: 1-800-THE-BOOK (843-2665) |
| 00:18.17 | jxqz | there's no way I would have made as good a choice as I did if I instead shopped online |
| 00:18.37 | jxqz | for many things the tactile, fine sense experience is irreplaceable |
| 00:18.40 | jlp_znc | jxqz: agreed, there is definitely a place for brick & mortar stores |
| 00:19.02 | jlp_znc | unfortunately, there are a lot of people who go to the store, look around, find what they want, and then order it online. |
| 00:19.04 | jxqz | but there was one magic thing about it that I just can't remember |
| 00:19.09 | jxqz | yeah |
| 00:19.17 | jxqz | it was something like the reverse of that |
| 00:19.39 | jxqz | oh well |
| 00:20.44 | jlp_znc | shalkie: their "live chat" button keeps flipping between "we are online" and "we're temporarily unavailable due to high traffic" |
| 00:20.54 | jxqz | use your store network as a distributed warehouse system |
| 00:20.59 | jlp_znc | I wonder how much of that traffic is "why can't I login any more?" |
| 00:21.17 | jxqz | people can return stuff to the store, maybe |
| 00:21.36 | jxqz | jlp_znc: haha |
| 00:21.47 | jxqz | this new guy just 'upgraded' email validation |
| 00:22.14 | jlp_znc | jxqz: there used to be a store that was basically catalog based. they had "show rooms" all over the country and you could go in there and touch the stuff, fiddle with it, etc. but if you wanted to buy it, you filled out this little card with the item number and paid for it, then they rolled it out of the back room on a conveyor belt with your name on it. |
| 00:22.34 | jlp_znc | you could also order from the catalog by phone and have stuff delivered |
| 00:22.41 | jlp_znc | can't remember the name of the place, though. |
| 00:22.45 | jxqz | sears still does things like that for large items |
| 00:22.56 | jxqz | the one time I got something there |
| 00:23.23 | jxqz | you want to invert the problem: leverage the intarwebz to enhance the store experience |
| 00:24.01 | jlp_znc | BEST! |
| 00:24.08 | jlp_znc | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Best_Products |
| 00:24.10 | jxqz | and that doesn't mean scattering desktops around the store jailed into a low feature kiosk version of the store's website |
| 00:24.14 | jlp_znc | wikipedia knows all |
| 00:24.43 | jxqz | but stores like autozone already do this |
| 00:24.43 | jlp_znc | went out of business in 97 |
| 00:24.59 | jxqz | except that their inventory is invariably wrong |
| 00:25.10 | jxqz | s/inventory/inventory database/ |
| 00:27.15 | goozbach | anyone remember ultimate electronics? |
| 00:27.19 | goozbach | I loved those stores |
| 00:28.04 | jlp_znc | yeah, I think I bought a TiVo there... maybe it was Circuit City, though. |
| 00:28.48 | jlp_znc | wow, it's 6:30-ish here already. I've got to split. let me know what happens with B&N, shalkie |
| 00:28.50 | goozbach | frys has kinda the same feel for me nowdays |
| 00:44.52 | shalkie | Ah Frys. |
| 00:45.03 | shalkie | I can spend _HOURS_ in there. |
| 00:45.12 | shalkie | It is seriously a blockhole of time for me. |
| 00:45.19 | spangborn | Haha, ultimate electronics. |
| 00:45.28 | spangborn | I miss that place. |
| 00:45.30 | goozbach | I've not spent a lot of time in the electronics sections (breadboards and resistors etc) but now I've got a pi I'm gonna |
| 00:45.40 | goozbach | so it'll be an even bigger timesink for me |
| 00:45.55 | shalkie | I walk in thinking "I need just a couple things, this will be quick." and walk out wondering why I am starving, where all the cars went and what distinguished the sun. |
| 00:46.01 | goozbach | gonna build an activity table for my toddler with the pi |
| 00:46.11 | goozbach | buttons, keypads, leds, speakers, etc. |
| 00:46.12 | shalkie | s/distinguished/extinguished/ |
| 00:46.27 | goozbach | make it wifi enabled so I can see when he's playing with it and interact with him |
| 00:48.21 | goozbach | shalkie: even worse when it's on the road, no? |
| 00:48.40 | goozbach | enter around 5pm come out at 11pm wondering where you were gonna go |
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| 01:18.14 | shalkie | goozbach: Definitely. |
| 01:28.21 | goozbach | any of you had to modify an rpm package recently to modify a compile option or the like? |
| 01:28.32 | goozbach | I'm looking for a good example of when that'd be nessacary |
| 01:30.25 | jxqz | goozbach: then assemble all of that data into some web charts that update in real time so the NSA can make sure your contraband device is not indoctrinating him into a terrist |
| 01:34.03 | goozbach | I'm thinking the keypad will have 5digit codes |
| 01:34.15 | goozbach | and when you enter a prime number it kicks off something special |
| 01:58.25 | jxqz | good idea, easter eggs |
| 01:58.56 | jxqz | how do you turn incense into an adverb? |
| 01:59.14 | jxqz | s/adverb/adjective/ |
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| 02:05.56 | goozbach | sounds like the setup to a joke |
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| 02:18.55 | jxqz | speaking of email validation |
| 02:19.09 | jxqz | I love it when websites think that a@b.com is a valid address |
| 02:22.02 | goozbach | a@b.com isn't? |
| 02:24.02 | jxqz | SLD's have to be at least 2 chars long |
| 02:24.19 | jxqz | try a.com |
| 02:24.19 | goozbach | FALSE: http://www.x.com/ |
| 02:24.25 | jxqz | hm |
| 02:24.31 | goozbach | http://www.x.org/wiki/ |
| 02:24.39 | goozbach | they're just not common |
| 02:24.46 | jxqz | ok |
| 02:24.56 | jxqz | well, I though I read something about that somewhere |
| 02:25.00 | jxqz | oh well |
| 02:25.17 | goozbach | it may be that's the case now, but the Xwindio guys got X.org *WAY* early |
| 02:27.21 | goozbach | jxqz: there is *some* truth to it however http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Single-letter_second-level_domain |
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| 03:07.38 | jxqz | ~dig a.com |
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| 16:08.43 | youtah | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-WesviDhxKw&feature=youtu.be |
| 16:11.17 | Jayce^ | yay fozzmoo is online... |
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| 16:34.11 | youtah | YEAH fozzmoo !!!!! |
| 16:34.27 | fozzmoo | Hi. |
| 16:34.59 | youtah | you were wanted yesterday and no one could find you |
| 16:35.12 | fozzmoo | Yeah. I can't connect to my IRC proxy from the office. |
| 16:35.20 | fozzmoo | Lame policies. |
| 16:35.23 | youtah | well, Jayce^ did, but he said you were crying under your desk, so he didn't want to disturb you. |
| 16:35.33 | fozzmoo | heh. |
| 16:36.46 | skrike | youtah: I havent done timp yet, were planning on it in the next few months. |
| 16:37.01 | skrike | youtah: I like http://www.wasatchhiker.com/ for trail info |
| 16:38.07 | youtah | yeah I was reading that yesterday. I was looking at hiking to the basin Thursday evening skrike |
| 16:38.12 | youtah | (not summiting) |
| 16:39.14 | skrike | havent had time to do any hikes since the move |
| 16:39.31 | youtah | My BIL and I are going for photos |
| 16:39.51 | skrike | the nigerian prince? |
| 16:40.11 | youtah | no, the other one, the one that lives here |
| 16:40.45 | skrike | this site is good too http://www.everytrail.com/ |
| 16:40.59 | skrike | I want to check these out this year http://www.everytrail.com/guide/fifth-water-hot-springs-in-diamond-fork-canyon |
| 16:42.51 | fozzmoo | goozbach: ping |
| 16:43.18 | goozbach | pong |
| 16:52.41 | jxqz | pung |
| 16:53.10 | skrike | s/g/k/ |
| 16:53.10 | youtah | pang |
| 16:53.22 | skrike | infobot fail |
| 16:53.23 | infobot | FAIL. |
| 16:53.23 | jxqz | heh |
| 16:53.29 | youtah | oh dang... jxqz I thought you were just going through the vowels |
| 16:53.34 | jxqz | indeed |
| 16:53.38 | jxqz | pyng |
| 16:53.41 | jxqz | pwng |
| 16:53.44 | youtah | lol |
| 16:53.50 | jxqz | got them covered |
| 16:53.51 | youtah | peng |
| 16:54.14 | skrike | I idle in #peng on efnet :) |
| 16:54.39 | jxqz | does open street maps/google maps have trails yet? |
| 16:54.52 | youtah | Just mine |
| 16:55.03 | youtah | I've been recording and uploading maps when I go |
| 16:55.05 | youtah | routes |
| 16:55.08 | skrike | that would be amazing |
| 16:55.20 | youtah | I've got Delicate Arch mapped and entered |
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| 16:55.52 | youtah | I have False Kiva recorded, but I am thinking of not entering it |
| 16:56.08 | youtah | Catherine's Pass, I've recorded |
| 16:56.23 | youtah | but I need to do that one again |
| 16:56.29 | skrike | that one was fun |
| 16:56.51 | youtah | That's one of my favorites of all time |
| 16:57.20 | youtah | https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.mictale.gpsessentials&hl=en <<< |
| 16:57.26 | skrike | last one we did was white pine lake and that was beautiful and shaded most of the way, but forever long. |
| 16:58.04 | youtah | it is forever long |
| 16:58.11 | youtah | TWSS |
| 16:59.59 | youtah | but seriously, check out that app I just posted skrike |
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| 17:00.18 | skrike | I donut has an andorid |
| 17:04.11 | skrike | youtah: ever seen city of god? |
| 17:09.36 | youtah | no |
| 17:28.06 | Jayce^ | http://rootbeerfloatday.com/ |
| 17:28.43 | goozbach | is that today!? |
| 17:29.04 | Jayce^ | yup |
| 17:29.26 | goozbach | hope there's one nearby |
| 17:29.29 | goozbach | I doubt it though |
| 17:29.35 | fozzmoo | This makes me wish I still lived in Logan. |
| 17:29.46 | Jayce^ | we've got the kfc/A&W nearby |
| 17:29.49 | fozzmoo | The A&W there is actually worth patronizing, unlike pretty much all others. |
| 17:30.00 | Jayce^ | misses the old drive up ones |
| 17:30.22 | goozbach | BAH South Carolina is the closest |
| 17:30.24 | goozbach | not enough money for gas for afree root bear |
| 17:30.25 | Jayce^ | one near my hometown used to always have a 50's themed car rally every month |
| 17:30.34 | fozzmoo | :) |
| 17:30.40 | Jayce^ | roller skate waitresses and all |
| 17:31.53 | fozzmoo | awesome that A&W is giving to the Wounded Warrior Project. |
| 17:33.15 | goozbach | dammit, now I want a float |
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| 17:58.38 | youtah | http://www.fusionio.com/press-releases/fusion-iodrives-featured-in-worldwide-microsoft-technology-centers |
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| 18:10.06 | fozzmoo | Fusion-IO is selling to Microsoft? That's it. I'll never do business with 'em. |
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| 19:07.46 | fozzmoo | youtah: nope. |
| 19:18.31 | youtah | Poo |
| 19:20.58 | youtah | http://imgur.com/gallery/DU8EW |
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| 22:01.40 | shalkie | jlp_znc: So you will love this. I finally got through to their chat. And in a rare moment the first level realized it didn't follow their mold and passed me on very quickly. |
| 22:02.13 | shalkie | Sadly the next level of support insisted that it wasn't the webpage since they could login and that I need to reboot my computer as the next step of troubleshooting. |
| 22:02.20 | shalkie | facepalms |
| 22:02.55 | shalkie | I did clarify that they weren't logging in with my credentials. |
| 22:03.29 | shalkie | Ah well. |
| 22:03.38 | shalkie | He at least gave me an email address. |
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