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| 00:08.59 | *** topic/#utah is Utah related discussion including user groups | logs @ http://ibot.rikers.org/%23utah/ | See also ##lds | OpenWest Conference sometime 2014! openwest.org | https://fiber.google.com/cities/provo/ |
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| 00:32.05 | jlp_znc | did ibot get sick? |
| 00:41.05 | eightyeight | something |
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| 03:44.38 | levi | Yo. |
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| 04:53.13 | jima | ho ho |
| 04:53.21 | jima | and a bottle of...root beer. |
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| 05:44.17 | jxqz | I guess I'll sleep now |
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| 12:09.59 | eightyeight | olli: can you fix your internet connection please? |
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| 14:08.03 | javi-89 | Hola |
| 14:08.40 | javi-89 | Hay alguien vivo? Jaja |
| 14:08.50 | javi-89 | ?? |
| 14:11.36 | olli | eightyeight, will do |
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| 14:16.15 | eightyeight | olli: thx |
| 14:16.54 | olli | didn't see your ping earlier, didn't get highlighted, fugue88 pointed it out |
| 14:17.27 | eightyeight | makes sense. with your unstable connection, the packets probably didn't make it to your client |
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| 14:57.13 | Migs | http://i.minus.com/ibaDjk7AeIcvxv.gif programming |
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| 15:08.43 | macnewbold | Migs: awesome. I'm glad to hear I'm not the only one who gets rabbit holed way too often... |
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| 15:29.57 | Migs | https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/18983_547621855310238_624031070_n.jpg |
| 15:31.41 | Migs | Mario! Nooo!!! |
| 15:31.50 | Migs | sort of nsfw I guess |
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| 16:25.29 | jlp_znc | Migs: I love the programming gif. |
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| 16:29.12 | Migs | but not the other one? |
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| 16:53.41 | jlp_znc | not so much, no |
| 16:54.01 | jlp_znc | way more than eight bits, there |
| 16:54.17 | _errstr | yeah, that programming one is perfect. love it. |
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| 16:57.55 | fungus | That is the definition of yak shaving |
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| 18:20.27 | levi | So true. |
| 18:24.07 | levi | Well, I think it's more "problem solving distraction" than yak shaving. None of the other problems were really related to the initial lightbulb problem at all, though I guess a couple of the distractions were related to earlier problems. |
| 18:24.31 | goozbach | not strict yak shaving |
| 18:24.50 | goozbach | but it's definately part of the superset that contains yak shaving |
| 18:29.29 | levi | Yeah, the term is a bit vague; I guess it comes down to whether yak shaving follows an *actual* chain of necessity towards the absurd or just an imagined chain of necessity. |
| 18:30.10 | goozbach | I think there's some overlap |
| 18:31.02 | goozbach | whenever I catch myself yak shaving and I look at the chain the first two links are more-or-less direct dependancies, the remainders are the "*SIGH* while I'm here..." type tasks |
| 18:33.40 | goozbach | but according to the actual source: http://catb.org/jargon/html/Y/yak-shaving.html it's supposed to be a direct-link chain |
| 18:33.48 | levi | The canonical examples all seem to be directly related to the problem at hand, though. "I need z, but y is blocking z, so I must resolve y. While resolving y, I run into roadblock x, so I must remove x. In removing x, I hit problem w..." |
| 18:34.54 | levi | I tend to get a few levels deep and then give up and wait for inspiration on another way to solve z to come up. :P |
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| 18:36.04 | goozbach | to make the afore mentioned clip actual yak shaving the tasks should have gone like so: |
| 18:36.10 | goozbach | 1) try to replace bulb |
| 18:36.22 | goozbach | 2) can't reach/retrieve bulb because of faulty shelf |
| 18:36.42 | goozbach | 3) can't fix shelf because drawer can't open fully due to rust |
| 18:36.58 | goozbach | 4) out of wd40 so off to the store, car broken |
| 18:39.38 | levi | On the other hand, the video itself never said it was about yak shaving. |
| 18:40.03 | levi | And we often convince ourselves that things that aren't *really* necessary for our task have to be done. |
| 18:41.29 | goozbach | I'd call it "yak shaving in spirit" |
| 18:41.31 | Sargun | Reddit? |
| 18:41.45 | goozbach | the last two tasks are directly related so it's not far off |
| 18:47.46 | levi | Sargun: No, a gif Migs posted a link to here: http://i.minus.com/ibaDjk7AeIcvxv.gif |
| 18:55.59 | goozbach | which was on reddit therebouts as well |
| 19:05.21 | Migs | https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-veH9nxQwD7Y/Uff_6g3QtVI/AAAAAAAANO0/wXoNurxekR4/w550-h454-no/it-support-meme.jpeg |
| 19:10.50 | ldav15 | Thanks for the lightbulb GIF! |
| 19:12.34 | jxqz | I tried to read reddit once |
| 19:12.54 | jxqz | for a few weeks, but all of the stuff on their homepage was boring or inane |
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| 19:14.00 | jxqz | does that mean the most universal stuff is also the most uninteresting? |
| 19:14.13 | jxqz | (crowd IQ, etc.) |
| 19:17.37 | levi | Pretty much. There are interesting subreddits, but the front page is mostly inane now. |
| 19:18.14 | levi | When it first started, it was mostly programming-related stuff with a heavy lisp emphasis. |
| 19:18.42 | levi | Now even the programming subreddit is mostly blah. |
| 19:44.50 | jlp_znc | http://www.smbc-comics.com/index.php?db=comics&id=3066 |
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| 20:25.06 | unum | hmm there was an incident involving 4 firetrucks and three ambulances across the street, but nothing on ksl.com yet |
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| 20:39.21 | neybar_work | kittie stuck in a tree? |
| 20:54.18 | romanovic | maybe your neighbor had a bit of a tumble? |
| 20:54.24 | romanovic | 0118 999 |
| 20:54.31 | romanovic | 88199 9119 725 |
| 20:54.33 | romanovic | 3 |
| 20:56.20 | Jayce^ | ~romanovic++ |
| 20:56.46 | Jayce^ | oh, I'll just email them |
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| 21:53.45 | youtah | I need to restart my machine |
| 21:53.47 | youtah | but I dont want to |
| 21:55.27 | jsmith | youtah: Don't do it -- it's a trap |
| 21:55.43 | youtah | no kidding |
| 21:55.47 | youtah | but nautalis isn't working |
| 21:55.58 | youtah | and dropbox keeps whining |
| 21:56.24 | ldav15 | maybe just a logout/login will fix it. |
| 21:56.34 | youtah | yeah, most likely |
| 21:56.41 | youtah | but then I have to close all of my open windows, etc |
| 21:56.47 | youtah | which is *really* the problem |
| 21:57.01 | youtah | https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc1/1005328_484182121665587_1485354350_n.jpg |
| 21:57.05 | ldav15 | yeah, in some ways logout/login is just as bad as a reboot. |
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| 21:57.50 | jsmith | youtah: Which bridge? |
| 21:58.15 | youtah | I have no idea |
| 21:58.21 | youtah | but the sign says "draw bridge" |
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| 21:58.52 | youtah | http://i.imgur.com/bsK0KRD.gif << Jayce^ doing the worm |
| 22:04.00 | youtah | YAK SHAVING!!! http://i.imgur.com/t0XHtgJ.gif << Right here folks |
| 22:06.56 | ldav15 | ~karma active-directory |
| 22:06.56 | infobot | active-directory has neutral karma |
| 22:07.08 | ldav15 | ~active-directory-- |
| 22:07.19 | youtah | lol |
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| 22:07.47 | ldav15 | fixed that |
| 22:11.03 | ldav15 | ~karma Jenkins |
| 22:11.03 | infobot | jenkins has neutral karma |
| 22:11.16 | ldav15 | ~Jenkins-- |
| 22:27.02 | keldwud_ | ~karma your mom |
| 22:27.02 | infobot | your mom has neutral karma |
| 22:27.08 | keldwud_ | ;) |
| 22:27.16 | keldwud_ | don't get lippy with me, infobot |
| 22:45.01 | Gate | ~karma gate |
| 22:45.01 | infobot | gate has karma of 3 |
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