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| 16:12.20 | jlp_znc | jxqz: yeah, that kind of sneaks up on you in this business |
| 16:24.59 | jxqz | so, all the old irc users are too senior now to use irc, (senior software architecturally engineering guru ninja, senior black dev net ops), and the newbs can't appreciate the delicious subtlety and simplicity of nonprofit, crowdsourced text chat |
| 16:28.33 | neybar | indeed |
| 16:35.11 | Migs | https://twitter.com/irqed/status/358212928404586498 |
| 16:36.13 | jxqz | and then there's Migs |
| 16:37.02 | Migs | there's always Migs |
| 16:37.12 | jxqz | indeed |
| 16:37.41 | jxqz | Mig 29 Firefox |
| 16:45.34 | youtah_ | HOLE-EEEE-CRAP |
| 16:45.49 | youtah_ | Just watched the new trailer for the second Hunger Games... looks freaking sweet! |
| 16:47.04 | youtah | nachos |
| 16:47.55 | youtah | msg nickserv identify "spangborn smells like soggy old socks" |
| 16:48.05 | youtah | Oh No! Oh shoot! Now all of you guys know my password!!! |
| 16:48.36 | youtah | Dangit, it. My client isn't highlighting spangborn's name because of the ". Hope he sees it |
| 16:55.14 | neybar | speaking of sweet movies. Saw Red2 and it was awesome |
| 16:55.24 | skrike | so Im setting up all the new services for my new house, and Ive realized Draper is a super awkward city name to people outside of Utah. |
| 16:55.34 | skrike | "excuse me? you live where? dee- raper?" |
| 16:56.27 | youtah | I'm only $3.9 million short. Anyone wanna go in on buying the city Woodside with me? http://realestate.aol.com/blog/2012/08/01/w/ |
| 16:56.42 | youtah | lol |
| 17:13.17 | unum | skrike: what area did you move to? |
| 17:14.29 | unum | I live on a street on Jean Cir, didn't realize how much grief that was going to cause me when giving it out over the phone until after I moved in |
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| 17:28.11 | skrike | unum: near the ebay building |
| 17:31.19 | keldwud_ | sweet movies? |
| 17:31.26 | keldwud_ | PACIFIC RIM IN IMAX 3D!!!! |
| 17:31.28 | keldwud_ | ZOMGGGG |
| 17:31.30 | keldwud_ | SRSLY |
| 17:31.31 | keldwud_ | do it |
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| 17:52.35 | Migs | http://s3-ec.buzzfed.com/static/enhanced/webdr05/2013/7/22/10/enhanced-buzz-2696-1374504936-11.jpg |
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| 17:53.54 | keldwud_ | Migs: .... |
| 17:54.05 | Migs | sup |
| 17:54.14 | keldwud_ | we really do live in a state of perpetual terror, don't we |
| 17:54.36 | Migs | I'm suspicious of that piece of garbage in the background, too |
| 17:54.49 | keldwud_ | I just finished reading Cory Doctorow's Little Brother, it was a fun read |
| 17:55.00 | keldwud_ | it covered all the terror topics pretty well |
| 17:55.21 | keldwud_ | next they need to interrogate every person that flashlight has ever associated with |
| 17:55.32 | keldwud_ | and put them all under heavy surveilance |
| 17:55.40 | keldwud_ | to protect the nation |
| 17:56.17 | fugue88 | Require permits for flashlights. They about as dangerous as knives, which the UK wisely banned. :P |
| 17:56.27 | fugue88 | s/They/They are/ |
| 18:18.18 | eightyeight | keldwud_: pacific rim was an epic failure |
| 18:18.58 | eightyeight | not only did the technology totally fail, but so did the underlying premise of the story, and they blatantly copied neon genesis evangelion |
| 18:20.04 | eightyeight | it's fun, if you like CG orgies and independence day speeches. other than that... |
| 18:20.18 | keldwud_ | eightyeight: I didn't go to see it as a serious movie |
| 18:20.32 | eightyeight | i was hoping at least for something semi-decent |
| 18:20.43 | eightyeight | then again, i hadn't heard any reviews about it before hand |
| 18:20.45 | youtah | Migs, That flashlight pic is SOOOOO OLDDDDDDDDDD! |
| 18:20.45 | keldwud_ | I went to see it because light and magic from lucasfilms in IMAX 3D, well, omg it was amazing |
| 18:20.57 | eightyeight | so i was surprised to see only 15 people in the theater on a sat night |
| 18:21.00 | youtah | Don't make me revoke your reddit/imgur card |
| 18:21.08 | keldwud_ | and you're right, the worst character was the female "lead" |
| 18:21.11 | keldwud_ | or the "love interest" |
| 18:21.16 | _errstr | tbf independency day speech was just a refactoring of shakespear's henry V st crispin's day |
| 18:21.20 | keldwud_ | they did crap with writing her part |
| 18:21.20 | youtah | fugue88... *torch permits |
| 18:21.22 | fozzmoo | Saw Red 2. Laughed. And I didn't see "Red 1." |
| 18:21.49 | keldwud_ | also, I don't know many people that gave critical acclaim to any of the godzilla movies except for maybe the first one |
| 18:21.56 | keldwud_ | and people still love those :-p |
| 18:21.57 | eightyeight | keldwud_: my biggest issue was the jaeger to begin with. why not just fire heat-sinking missles? or am i missing something? |
| 18:22.06 | youtah | I want to see despicable me 2 |
| 18:22.10 | keldwud_ | I did love the evangelion rip offs |
| 18:22.13 | keldwud_ | actually |
| 18:22.15 | eightyeight | it's pre-apacolpytic, yet we build multi-billion dollar robots |
| 18:22.40 | keldwud_ | I also loved the bit they snuck in in one breath "oh they tried invading before, that's where dinosaurs came from" |
| 18:22.42 | keldwud_ | lol |
| 18:22.48 | eightyeight | which are 300' in size. titanium with nuclear reactors. |
| 18:22.53 | keldwud_ | the whole movie was just really fun :) |
| 18:22.57 | eightyeight | probably weigh, what? a few million tons? |
| 18:23.06 | eightyeight | and thy can be carried by 8 helicopters! |
| 18:23.23 | keldwud_ | newslfash, movies don't contain realism!! |
| 18:23.28 | eightyeight | if you turn your brain off, it's fun |
| 18:23.30 | keldwud_ | this is definitely news to me ;) |
| 18:23.47 | keldwud_ | you didn't see it in imax 3d, did you, eightyeight |
| 18:24.05 | eightyeight | yeah. hard to believe directors and producers out of hollywoold would actually want to make a movie that follows basic physics laws |
| 18:24.06 | keldwud_ | I definitely wouldn't pay to see that movie anywhere else |
| 18:24.12 | eightyeight | i can't stand 3d movies |
| 18:24.34 | keldwud_ | so I think we are arguing apples and oranges |
| 18:24.40 | eightyeight | http://www.rogerebert.com/rogers-journal/why-3d-doesnt-work-and-never-will-case-closed |
| 18:24.52 | fadein | God bless you, Pete Ashdown!! http://www.engadget.com/2013/07/22/utah-isp-government/ |
| 18:25.06 | keldwud_ | I completely understand all of your points about the movie, but I don't feel they apply to the IMAX 3D experience :) |
| 18:25.16 | pashdown | thanks fadein |
| 18:25.22 | keldwud_ | pashdown++ |
| 18:25.31 | eightyeight | keldwud_: i would hate it more in imax 3d. :) |
| 18:25.48 | fozzmoo | pashdown, keldwud, fadein: :-) |
| 18:26.20 | keldwud_ | heya fozzmoo |
| 18:27.19 | keldwud_ | oh, that article was a bit... shorter than I had expected |
| 18:27.35 | keldwud_ | I looked around for the "next page" button, but it was nowhere to be found |
| 18:27.59 | pashdown | http://www.buzzfeed.com/justinesharrock/what-is-that-box-when-the-nsa-shows-up-at-your-internet-comp |
| 18:28.07 | pashdown | ^ the original interview |
| 18:28.19 | keldwud_ | oh thanks |
| 18:28.26 | pashdown | minus the reporter's questions, which i found weird |
| 18:28.34 | keldwud_ | guess I should have clicked on that linnk from #dc801 :) |
| 18:29.05 | pashdown | hey does anyone have a script for monitoring ksl classified? |
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| 18:31.17 | keldwud_ | owait, so if I have machines on my network and in my DC that my $boss tells me nothing about, I *could* have an NSA box? |
| 18:36.06 | keldwud_ | oh cool. you got a michael arrington comment. or is he not "in" anymore after all that other stuff went down? |
| 18:38.53 | youtah | pashdown, if you find one I might be interested |
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| 18:40.27 | keldwud_ | if there doesn't currently exist such a script, how much would it be worth? :) |
| 18:40.44 | youtah | A pack of Mike N Ikes? |
| 18:41.07 | keldwud_ | lolno :-p |
| 18:46.14 | youtah | pashdown, you guys have a tor node? |
| 18:46.22 | youtah | :-) |
| 18:47.27 | skrike | I just signed up with xmission today :) |
| 18:47.43 | skrike | in large part for tor |
| 18:47.45 | pashdown | http://anon.xmission.com |
| 18:47.59 | youtah | I'd sign up with xmission at my new place, but I can't... has to go through veracity. |
| 18:48.05 | pashdown | thanks skrike |
| 18:48.24 | youtah | makes sad face |
| 18:48.25 | skrike | Im going through century link, although I had to tell them to throttle my bandwidth at 7mbps instead of 12 so I could use it. |
| 18:48.40 | skrike | then they tried to talk me out of it |
| 18:48.52 | pashdown | they're giving you a 7M connection to us? |
| 18:48.54 | pashdown | that is a new one |
| 18:49.15 | pashdown | because usually they say it is unpossible to use their ADSL2 product to anyone but themselves |
| 18:49.15 | skrike | Residential DSL out of draper. I had to call back and forth a few times |
| 18:49.37 | skrike | and now Im shopping for a decent modem. |
| 18:49.54 | pashdown | let me know when that goes through. this might be a tactic for us to get other customers onto adsl2. |
| 18:50.20 | skrike | next monday is it actually goes through without a hitch. |
| 18:50.20 | skrike | s/is/if/ |
| 18:50.28 | skrike | THANKS INFOBOT! |
| 18:51.28 | pashdown | did they say it was adsl2? |
| 18:52.31 | skrike | I can call back and ask. Originally they said I "qualified" for the 12mbps and said I couldnt go through xmission at that address, so I called you guys and they said it cant be above 7 or they dont let xmission use their copper. |
| 18:52.36 | skrike | So I called back and asked for 7 and it worked. |
| 18:52.46 | skrike | But they didnt go into tech specs. |
| 18:54.23 | youtah | pashdown, just finished reading the write up. That is so awesome!!!! |
| 18:54.33 | youtah | ~pashdown++ |
| 18:54.34 | pashdown | thanks |
| 18:56.20 | skrike | BUzzfeed has been on top of the nsa/utah data center/xmission angle for a while. Been digging their reporting. |
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| 19:10.44 | skrike | hes there. was just responding to questions. |
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| 19:19.07 | youtah | skrike, you called back and asked for 7? or did you mean to say the 12? |
| 19:20.19 | youtah | Found this in our backyard, on our lot in Lehi (where we're building) https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/1074172_10201706616211389_98295178_o.jpg |
| 19:21.47 | Q_Continuum | skrike: If its anything like their service in Minnesota, that'll be 7Mbps/896Kbps; which I do believe is adsl2 pashdown |
| 19:22.07 | Q_Continuum | (That's what I had back in MN) |
| 19:22.47 | skrike | youtah: I can only use xmission as my isp at 7. At 12 they make me use century link. |
| 19:25.30 | youtah | I am confused skrike... I thought you were complaining that they will only give you 7mbps, so you called them, and asked them for 7mbps...... |
| 19:25.52 | youtah | must have missed a critical piece of conversation somewhere |
| 19:27.40 | skrike | Im compalining that in order to use xmission as my isp I HAVE to have 7mbps, I can choose 12mbps but according to xmission century link throttles them down to 7 |
| 19:28.42 | jxqz | lamerz |
| 19:32.18 | pashdown | skrike the word about here is that if you get 7 you'll be lucky. it is most likely adsl they're selling you. most commonly 3 or 1.5. :( |
| 19:32.27 | pashdown | i have 3 at home myself and i hate it. |
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| 19:35.13 | skrike | pashdown: when are you going to give me some fiber? :P |
| 19:35.23 | pashdown | where are you? |
| 19:36.21 | skrike | Draper, as of next week. Near the ebay building. |
| 19:38.19 | pashdown | talk to your city council and see if there is any interest. i'm trying to get an iniative on the ballot here in slc for fiber. |
| 19:38.44 | skrike | Will do. |
| 19:39.17 | jxqz | pashdown: yes! |
| 19:39.32 | goozbach | any salt users online? |
| 19:40.43 | pashdown | we use it here, although i'm not the person to answer questions about it |
| 19:40.48 | pashdown | eightyeight is probably more suited |
| 19:41.09 | eightyeight | i'm working on that right now, actually |
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| 19:41.12 | eightyeight | heh |
| 19:41.22 | eightyeight | turns out salt doesn't support recursive excludes, so i'm filing a big |
| 19:41.25 | eightyeight | s/big/bug/ |
| 19:41.33 | jxqz | I was just thinking about what it would take to get fibers into SLC |
| 19:41.52 | goozbach | I'm trying to understand the archetecture |
| 19:42.02 | goozbach | I see from the docs there are three ways of storing 'data' |
| 19:42.10 | goozbach | grains, pilliars, and mines |
| 19:42.18 | goozbach | but I'm uncertian as to the differences |
| 19:42.23 | pashdown | jxqz i'm proposing an iprovo like fee on water bill for department of networks creation and maintenance. |
| 19:42.27 | keldwud_ | I live at an address that has fiber next door on both sides and across the street |
| 19:42.29 | keldwud_ | but not at my address |
| 19:42.30 | keldwud_ | >:-[ |
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| 19:42.50 | goozbach | and as I'm trying to learn it to the point of teaching it, I'd like to figure it out pat |
| 19:43.05 | jxqz | pashdown: let me know if you need any help with suhc an initiative |
| 19:43.12 | pashdown | will do |
| 19:43.30 | jxqz | I can/will volunteer some hours |
| 19:44.32 | eightyeight | goozbach: so grains are information about the system |
| 19:44.41 | eightyeight | cpu, ram, os, os_family, etc |
| 19:45.22 | eightyeight | goozbach: pillars are a way for salt to create more generic global values for stuff to distribute |
| 19:45.43 | eightyeight | for example, the apache package on debian is 'apache2', but on centos it's 'httpd' |
| 19:46.08 | eightyeight | so, a pillar could be a generic package name called 'apache' that grabs the right name out of the repo based on the underlying operating system |
| 19:46.24 | goozbach | k, I'm following thus far |
| 19:46.51 | goozbach | that's not too far off of the other config management systems I've used there's two classes of data (generated, and created). |
| 19:47.08 | goozbach | but where does this "mine" thing come into play |
| 19:47.14 | jxqz | pashdown: how are you going to have to deal with the easy negativity and ire that people already know from utoipia and iProvo? |
| 19:47.36 | jxqz | or that most people will only respond with 'I'm waititng for google fiber' |
| 19:47.55 | jxqz | s/waiting for/want/ |
| 19:48.33 | pashdown | iprovo is still paying for the network, they just don't have competition |
| 19:49.38 | pashdown | utopia's biggest problem is that it was 10 years ahead of its time and financed with bonds |
| 19:49.45 | eightyeight | goozbach: i haven't used the salt mine system personally. so, i'm looking at that |
| 19:50.03 | eightyeight | goozbach: my understanding is that you have "master -> minion" and peering with "minion -> minion" |
| 19:50.13 | eightyeight | the salt mine sits somewhere between those two architectures. i _think_ |
| 19:50.17 | pashdown | if they convert it to infrastructure and finance it with an iprovo like fee, i think it would be more stable and pervasive |
| 19:55.09 | Q_Continuum | biggest hurdle will be getting over the 'But let business invest/compete!' even though they've been shown to not at all. |
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| 20:14.46 | youtah | pashdown, watch, the second I leave SL County, everyone will get Fiber |
| 20:15.38 | pashdown | can i convince you to move? |
| 20:16.00 | fozzmoo | he's building in Utah Valley now. |
| 20:16.33 | youtah | I was in Sandy and we could not get digis, because we were on this hill, and were too high. The rest that were line of sight, were blocked by huge old trees. Century Link could only get us 512kbps, because the lines were so bad |
| 20:16.46 | youtah | there was no fiber in the area, and comcast had to run a line to the house. |
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| 20:19.31 | youtah | But soon I will be at Traverse Mountain with Fiber Optics.... ahhhh yeah! |
| 20:19.39 | youtah | Who cares that Lehi has no water... I have FIBER! |
| 20:24.13 | skrike | s/water/privacy/ |
| 20:29.58 | youtah | lol |
| 20:30.02 | youtah | not as bad as day break |
| 20:30.28 | youtah | s/day break/day broke/ |
| 20:30.33 | skrike | I was reffering to the NSA building in lehi... but yeah living in daybreak sucks too |
| 20:30.48 | skrike | weve liked the lake though. |
| 20:30.51 | youtah | Oh man.... come over for a BBQ... You can see it perfectly from my lot |
| 20:31.07 | skrike | youre in traverse? |
| 20:31.13 | youtah | I can see Utah Lake, the Copper Mine, etc |
| 20:31.14 | youtah | yeah |
| 20:32.06 | skrike | oooohhh the copper mine. so pretty! :P |
| 20:32.25 | youtah | Lightning. |
| 20:32.48 | youtah | you can't really see the details of the copper mine, we're so far away. The sillouette at sunset looks awesome |
| 20:33.15 | skrike | I need to bring my camera on my hike tomorrow. |
| 20:33.19 | skrike | I think we're doing dog lake |
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| 20:34.15 | youtah | My friend is borrowing my D800 |
| 20:34.28 | youtah | He is shooting a documentary with the UofU for PBS in Montana |
| 20:34.44 | youtah | and wanted to do some clean, DSLR high quality, macro video. |
| 20:34.59 | youtah | So I am borrowing his Nikon D3. :-) |
| 20:35.09 | skrike | I need to upgrade my 5d |
| 20:35.21 | skrike | I rent from pictureline whenever I need video capability |
| 20:37.09 | youtah | 5d to Nikon D[\d]* will be an upgrade skrike |
| 20:37.18 | youtah | ;-) |
| 20:37.58 | jlp_znc | testing... for some reason, I have two #utah tabs... |
| 20:38.16 | jlp_znc | testing, for some reason, I have two tabs for #utah. this is the left one. |
| 20:38.24 | skrike | cool... upgrade all my lenses and off camera flash units and cables and cards too! |
| 20:38.41 | skrike | graduated neutral density filters! |
| 20:38.56 | youtah | you forgot "upgrade your pictures" too |
| 20:39.17 | skrike | s/upgrade your pictures/deal with poor noise processing/ |
| 20:39.18 | skrike | ftfy |
| 20:39.20 | skrike | :) |
| 20:39.39 | skrike | FORMAT FIGHT! |
| 20:40.14 | youtah | lol, HA! Just remember that the D800, D3, D3x, D3s and D4, all out perform in high iso low noise than "leading other brands" and 9/10 doctors agree |
| 20:41.15 | youtah | Oh, and totally make sure you get you some good ND's |
| 20:41.24 | youtah | That's what made this shot https://plus.google.com/u/0/117588839385073341602/posts/9CuSfmDd93K possile during the daytime. |
| 20:41.40 | skrike | mmm nice. |
| 20:41.43 | skrike | yeah Ive got a set |
| 20:41.51 | skrike | for my 17-40mm |
| 20:42.06 | youtah | Graduated NDs and some to black out the sun and you're set. |
| 20:42.16 | youtah | My darkest knocks it down 4 full stops. |
| 20:42.49 | youtah | My BIL bought a set that would take it down 100 stops. Shooting 30 minute exposures on the Salt Flats mid day, with high noon sun... awesome clouds! |
| 20:43.48 | skrike | very cool |
| 20:45.14 | youtah | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Ut7wK9l9mk |
| 20:46.13 | skrike | SWIM AWAY! |
| 20:48.42 | youtah | ~whale |
| 20:48.42 | infobot | from memory, whale is a magical creature used mainly by gnomes (c.f. Bloodmyst Isle), also by other races, to inject fear (a.k.a. ph34r) into the heart of the enemy. That is, if they aren't laughing so hard that a furious gnome has challenged them. |
| 20:48.54 | youtah | ~koalabears |
| 20:49.15 | youtah | ~koalas |
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| 21:53.10 | youtah | http://www.businessinsider.com/watch-protesters-reportedly-battle-within-sight-of-the-us-embassy-in-cairo-2013-7 |
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| 23:16.01 | youtah | Tomorrow is our 10 year wedding anniversary, and we lost our baby sitter. $@%# now what? Family we've called can't watch the kids... |
| 23:25.16 | JalenJade | duct tape |
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| 23:29.08 | youtah | writes in his log... "Note to self, don't use JalenJade as a baby sitter... he'll give my kids duct tape." |
| 23:29.24 | aarobc_wrk | to a tree |
| 23:29.33 | JalenJade | After letting them watch many episodes of The Red Green Show |
| 23:29.46 | JalenJade | Especially the ones that involve cutting an automobile in half. |
| 23:30.05 | youtah | At first I thought, JalenJade was referring to taping the kids up. but then I realized that giving the kids duct tape would be by far more dangerous |
| 23:30.27 | youtah | using the Red and Green as an example |
| 23:47.30 | Jayce^ | goozbach: did you realize that Damian Conway's .vimrc is on github? |
| 23:48.23 | goozbach | no |
| 23:48.32 | goozbach | wherbouts |
| 23:48.53 | goozbach | and is it ark of the covenant esque? |
| 23:49.05 | goozbach | ie it'll melt my face off? |
| 23:49.25 | goozbach | and FYI I'm pretty sure my vim modification days are behind me |
| 23:49.32 | goozbach | I've trancended vim |
| 23:49.35 | goozbach | :) |
| 23:49.46 | goozbach | http://presentation.goozbach.com/Acme-A-User-Interface-for-Programmers/ |
| 23:49.50 | fozzmoo | :) |
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| 23:50.18 | goozbach | also you both suck! |
| 23:50.22 | goozbach | I wish I was there |
| 23:50.36 | fozzmoo | Damian is 20 minutes over and nobody's said anything or gotten up and left. :) |
| 23:50.47 | goozbach | what's the probility bluehost is gonna send the lot of you next year? |
| 23:51.02 | goozbach | if greater than 50% I'm gonna start saving my pennies |
| 23:51.16 | goozbach | submit a paper and go for it |
| 23:51.20 | Jayce^ | hey, we've got other coworkers here too |
| 23:51.20 | fozzmoo | :) |
| 23:51.22 | Jayce^ | you could be one |
| 23:51.27 | fozzmoo | Yup. |
| 23:51.41 | fozzmoo | We got to choose YAPC or OSCON this year. |
| 23:54.22 | goozbach | in completely unrelated news: Ruckus Roboticus is A W E S O M E |
| 23:54.51 | Jayce^ | goozbach: you could try talking to jsmith sometime :-p |
| 23:54.58 | goozbach | ha ha |
| 23:55.08 | Jayce^ | next year we gotta get tensai to come with us |
| 23:55.35 | goozbach | I've got too many opportunites lined up to work for the man in the foreseeable future |
| 23:56.05 | Jayce^ | pulls goozbach 's rug out from under him |
| 23:56.49 | jalance | goozbach: it would be super awesome if we could all get to OSCON again next year. |
| 23:57.19 | fozzmoo | Or come to Openwest. That'll give me my warm fuzzies. |
| 23:57.27 | Jayce^ | TMI |
| 23:57.34 | neybar | yeah, that too fozzmoo |
| 23:57.51 | goozbach | when's openwest next year? |
| 23:58.08 | Jayce^ | you think we've decided that yet? :-p |
| 23:58.16 | fozzmoo | May, I'm sure. |
| 23:58.18 | Jayce^ | actually I think we've got some probable dates |
| 23:58.26 | Jayce^ | the week after the semester |
| 23:58.38 | neybar | I thought victor had already picked a date. |
| 23:58.49 | goozbach | I really enjoyed SELF |
| 23:58.55 | goozbach | ya'll should come this way for it next year |
| 23:59.00 | goozbach | posiblly in ATL |
| 23:59.11 | Jayce^ | I think it's more UVU picking it since they give us the space |
| 23:59.19 | Jayce^ | cheaper to move just you slacker |
