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| 16:48.27 | youtah | More Nun |
| 16:55.53 | youtah | http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2360059/DuckDuckGo-little-known-search-engine-refuses-store-data-users-doubles-web-traffic-amid-NSA-tapping-scandal.html |
| 16:59.00 | keldwud | that's news? |
| 16:59.09 | keldwud | I've been using DDG for a minute now :-p |
| 16:59.51 | youtah | http://www.nbcnews.com/health/fish-oils-may-raise-prostate-cancer-risks-study-confirms-6C10597283 << Holy crap! a 44% increase in risk |
| 17:01.40 | shalkie | And I thought you took fish oil to prevent cancer... |
| 17:01.58 | youtah | unless you have a prostate apparently |
| 17:02.54 | youtah | "The American Cancer Society projects that 240,000 U.S. men will be diagnosed with prostate cancer in 2013, and about 30,000 will die from it." << Scary as #$@& |
| 17:03.14 | shalkie | But that is why you take Saw Palmetto, right? |
| 17:03.26 | youtah | My friends died from prostate cancer, what a horrible horrible, extremely painful, death |
| 17:03.38 | youtah | my friends *Dad died.... |
| 17:05.35 | shalkie | I wonder if that is 30k from the 240k or 30k from general population, including those that were not previously diagnosed. |
| 17:06.39 | shalkie | Plus there is an increasing trend to not perform autopsies. So the number that actually died is probably larger anyways. |
| 17:07.05 | shalkie | ^died^died from prostate cancer,^ |
| 17:12.31 | keldwud | why fewer autopsies? |
| 17:12.39 | keldwud | cost? |
| 17:12.42 | shalkie | I think so. |
| 17:13.02 | keldwud | I'd hope it was that and not something like a belief system that operates outside of the law ;) |
| 17:13.15 | shalkie | The overall 5-year relative survival for 2003-2009 from 18 SEER geographic areas was 99.2%. |
| 17:13.23 | shalkie | ^^ http://seer.cancer.gov/statfacts/html/prost.html |
| 17:13.29 | keldwud | SO EXCITED! I leave in two hours! |
| 17:13.43 | shalkie | Your going to the Bonneville SeaBase? |
| 17:13.49 | shalkie | Take your trunks. ;-) |
| 17:15.12 | keldwud | I am :) |
| 17:15.19 | keldwud | and an umbrella |
| 17:15.22 | shalkie | webmd article on the decline of autopsies. http://www.webmd.com/healthy-aging/news/20110804/autopsy-rate-shows-big-decline |
| 17:15.27 | keldwud | I think this is five years in a row that it has rained |
| 17:15.29 | keldwud | :( |
| 17:15.39 | keldwud | not that I mind, but I kind of get sick of all that mud |
| 17:16.01 | shalkie | And I thought it would have been something awesome with all those free spirits too. ;-) |
| 17:16.05 | keldwud | if anyone else goes, I'll be the one with the boombox, feel free to approach me and introduce yourself |
| 17:16.28 | keldwud | wait, "thought it *would* have been something awesome"? |
| 17:16.38 | keldwud | "it is going to be something awesome" FTFY |
| 17:18.11 | shalkie | for 75/90 bucks, it needs to be. |
| 17:18.30 | keldwud | that's a horrible attitude :) |
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| 17:18.47 | keldwud | enjoyment is not proportionate to how much money you spend |
| 17:18.56 | keldwud | it is proportionate to how well you entertain yourself |
| 17:19.09 | keldwud | and how much you can have a good time without relying on others to do it for you :-p |
| 17:19.53 | keldwud | it all falls back on the whole "I'm bored" philosophy. If you believe in being bored, then it doesn't matter how much or how little one spends on an event, you will always be somewhat disappointed that you didn't "get what you paid for" |
| 17:20.01 | keldwud | how's that for hippie talk? :-p |
| 17:20.17 | keldwud | 90 bucks ain't *nothin*. I spent 300 at EDC |
| 17:20.40 | keldwud | and considering camping out anywherr in utah runs an average of 20 per vehicle... |
| 17:21.15 | keldwud | and the fact that minimum, it costs 10 bucks per cover charge at clubs that have music acts, times that by half a dozen stages over three nights, plus the 6 bonfires |
| 17:21.28 | keldwud | and the fact that alcohol flows freely there |
| 17:22.01 | keldwud | I'd wager to say that 90 bucks is a STEAL and the true value of what you receive at an event like element 11 is more like 200 - 300 |
| 17:29.05 | shalkie | Meh. 90 bucks is still a fair chunck of change and I can get a lot of fly fishing in with it. ;-) |
| 17:32.26 | keldwud | but boobs! |
| 17:32.31 | keldwud | :) |
| 17:32.55 | shalkie | Damnit! I don't have a counter for that one. :-P |
| 17:33.14 | keldwud | that's why I pulled that card |
| 17:33.39 | keldwud | also, there are sharks. |
| 17:33.47 | keldwud | and fish |
| 17:34.16 | keldwud | it's actually $150 at the door, though. I think they might sell out pretty soon. 1200 people |
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| 18:34.04 | cbryant215 | E11 expects a sell-out at the gate or before. |
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| 21:08.34 | youtah | SHIZNITS!!! It drops below 90 degrees, and I'm freezing! |
| 21:08.54 | Tene | wtf |
| 21:09.05 | youtah | yeah |
| 21:09.06 | Tene | if it goes above 70, I'm sweating and grumpy |
| 21:09.18 | Tene | erm, above 80, I guess |
| 21:09.29 | jxqz | dude |
| 21:09.35 | youtah | Ever since Moab, I've been in Lizard mode |
| 21:09.47 | jxqz | temperature is an arbitrary scale without substance |
| 21:09.52 | youtah | (cold blooded mode) |
| 21:09.59 | Tene | I wish I had a lizard mode; I've never been able to get used to heat |
| 21:10.15 | jxqz | you need to be talking about thermal energy instead |
| 21:10.17 | youtah | I am being dead serious, as soon as it dropped below 100, we got in the hot tub. |
| 21:10.29 | jxqz | multiply T by k_B and you have a measure of energy |
| 21:10.42 | youtah | I think my body got used to not having to generate it's own heat, and got lazy. |
| 21:10.53 | youtah | and now it gets colder than 98.6 and it's like, WTF dude?! |
| 21:11.17 | youtah | ~eval 103*k_B |
| 21:11.24 | youtah | hmmmmm, didn't work ;-) |
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| 21:12.06 | youtah | jxqz, what's k_B? |
| 21:12.35 | jxqz | well, first, you have to realize that thermal energy (temperature) is scaled by point at which the kinetic energy of the system is zero |
| 21:13.31 | jxqz | this is the zero point, where all the phonons are gone. The lowest in the lab for a nanocrystal (probably optically isolated) is like 12 observed phonons left |
| 21:13.45 | youtah | how much energy is this going to take, to understand this concept? Because... well... I'm kind of running low right now |
| 21:13.53 | jxqz | boltzman constant |
| 21:15.09 | jxqz | the ambient atmospheric thermal energy in SLC right now is 4.213e-21 J |
| 21:17.56 | youtah | So since it's above 0, then that means we're happy? |
| 21:18.03 | youtah | ;-) |
| 21:18.10 | youtah | I have no idea what that truly means btw |
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| 21:32.34 | jxqz | temperature is a synonym for thermal energy via k_B |
| 21:32.48 | jxqz | thermal energy tells you how jumbly atoms and molecules are |
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| 22:36.47 | harleypig | GAH!!! Going through a legacy perl app and finally discover buried deep in the middle of a dense code 'no strict qw( refs vars );' |
| 22:36.55 | harleypig | nasty bad naughty words |
| 22:37.15 | spangborn | Ugh, why did I renew my 500px membership? |
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| 22:41.33 | rsimpkin1 | spangborn: You have to pay to use that site? |
| 22:41.50 | spangborn | For the premium features, yeah. |
| 22:41.51 | rsimpkin1 | Seems like a rip off, considering they can sell your photos at a profit. |
| 22:42.00 | spangborn | Yeah, I don't really sell any of them anyway. |
| 22:42.17 | spangborn | I was primarily paying for storage, stats, and a nice looking portfolio. |
| 22:42.18 | rsimpkin1 | "License your photos to us, and pay us for the privlage!" |
| 22:42.23 | spangborn | But since I moved to Koken, I don't see the need. |
| 22:42.34 | spangborn | Especially with their shitty uptime, and buggy apps and website |
| 22:42.56 | rsimpkin1 | have you looked at behance? |
| 22:43.17 | spangborn | Nope - I guess I should |
| 23:08.33 | levi | For anyone who's interested, we're going to be discussing macros in Scheme and other interesting things at the programming language night at The Transistor tonight starting at 7pm. |
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