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| 10:21.24 | *** topic/#utah is Utah related discussion including user groups | logs @ http://ibot.rikers.org/%23utah/ | See also ##lds | OpenWest Conference sometime 2014! openwest.org | https://fiber.google.com/cities/provo/ |
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| 13:56.28 | keldwud | really? plan 9 is such a droll topic that it has been dead in here ever since? |
| 13:58.36 | goozbach | keldwud: I enjoy using plan9 |
| 13:58.42 | goozbach | used it at my last job |
| 13:59.03 | goozbach | it's more of a platform for creating things than an infrastructure ready |
| 13:59.16 | goozbach | I'm using Acme as my editor of choice now |
| 13:59.29 | keldwud | goozbach: thanks for the response :) |
| 13:59.33 | goozbach | under p9p (plan9port aka plan9 userspace) |
| 14:00.17 | goozbach | but my previous job we ran one of the few production deployments of plan9 |
| 14:00.22 | goozbach | 9atom to be specific |
| 14:01.26 | goozbach | I built a deployment system which piggybacked off of plan9 dhcp/dns/tftp and used syslinux's chainloader to boot into cobbler |
| 14:01.51 | goozbach | http://blog.friocorte.com/2011/05/chain-loading-pxe-servers.html |
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| 14:04.11 | keldwud | oh wow. so plan9 does get used in production |
| 14:04.12 | keldwud | interesting |
| 14:04.22 | goozbach | it's pretty niche |
| 14:04.24 | goozbach | but yes |
| 14:04.43 | goozbach | it's prety hard to get installed, but once it's there, it's rock solid and easy |
| 14:04.57 | goozbach | we had some interesting problems with DNS |
| 14:05.03 | goozbach | acting as a caching server I mean |
| 14:05.22 | goozbach | at a certian load it got confused and started returning russian addresses for every name |
| 14:05.33 | goozbach | but I think they've fixed that bug now |
| 14:05.57 | goozbach | we solved it by putting a linux server as a caching proxy just ahead of the caching server on plan9 |
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| 16:31.42 | eightyeight | http://youtu.be/qDPi4buduY0 |
| 16:36.10 | youtah | well, we're putting the family dog to sleep |
| 16:37.11 | skrike | because he ate reeses peanut butter cups? |
| 16:37.15 | youtah | eightyeight, someone sent that to me yesterday. I was dying. |
| 16:37.39 | eightyeight | yeah. my sides hurt. very well done. |
| 16:37.54 | eightyeight | the voices and the story telling |
| 16:38.20 | youtah | https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/1025718_10201613956654958_1861318498_o.jpg |
| 16:38.45 | skrike | aw :9 |
| 16:39.07 | skrike | that was supposed to be a forwny face, but it kinda looks like a dog. |
| 16:39.29 | youtah | licking the side of it's nose? |
| 16:39.33 | youtah | :-) |
| 16:40.10 | skrike | sorry to hear. my kids grandpa's dog died a few years ago and they still talk about it. |
| 16:40.38 | skrike | http://i.imgur.com/L2Kgy0c.jpg *rolls eyes* |
| 16:46.26 | youtah | yeah, especially since we're living with my parents right now |
| 16:47.05 | skrike | http://www.universetoday.com/103341/incredible-astrophoto-the-youngest-possible-new-moon-by-thierry-legault/ |
| 16:47.08 | skrike | that. is. rad. |
| 16:47.34 | youtah | Awesome |
| 16:47.49 | youtah | Skrike you in #photogeeks |
| 16:47.51 | youtah | ? |
| 16:48.04 | skrike | no. is it teh awesomes? |
| 16:48.11 | youtah | Pretty good convos |
| 16:49.15 | youtah | http://www.upworthy.com/dustin-hoffman-breaks-down-crying-explaining-something-that-every-woman-sadly-already-experienced-3?g=2 |
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| 16:52.06 | youtah | skrike, just saw your screen grab. Uhg. Oh my heavens. |
| 16:52.10 | youtah | http://i.imgur.com/y7eVZVb.jpg << LOL |
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| 16:52.34 | skrike | not my grab. I dont facebook. |
| 16:52.43 | skrike | but still funny |
| 16:52.52 | youtah | They forgot to blot out Rachel Taylor |
| 17:04.57 | rsimpkins | That is funny. "Don't make fun of them - or a bear might eat your children!" |
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| 17:06.38 | rsimpkins | Just so you guys know, you better not make fun of me or a tiger might rip your FACE OFF! |
| 17:06.40 | youtah | And they didn't even get the scripture right |
| 17:06.59 | youtah | It's "two she bears" that come out of the woods and did "tear up 42 children" |
| 17:07.09 | youtah | Gosh! |
| 17:07.18 | rsimpkins | Oh, a total bloodbath then. |
| 17:07.30 | youtah | (yes, that was from memory. I suck at scripture mastery, but I remembered that one) |
| 17:07.41 | rsimpkins | Well, it is a pretty graphic thought. |
| 17:08.17 | youtah | the kids said something like |
| 17:08.25 | youtah | "Go up thou bald head" |
| 17:09.16 | rsimpkins | So what kind of guy is so insecure about being bald he tells bears to kill 42 kids? |
| 17:11.39 | rsimpkins | I guess if your parenting skills are so bad that you let your kids run around in huge gangs with no adult supervision - *shrug*. |
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| 17:15.33 | joshh | well, there are plenty of those parents |
| 17:15.59 | keldwud | the kind of parents that run around in their own huge gangs with no adult supervision maybe? ;) |
| 17:16.57 | rsimpkins | Some guy on the Internet says the kids were 13-29yo, and probably weren't killed. The bears were there to just scare them away. |
| 17:17.38 | rsimpkins | Why it couldn't say "A group of young adults started attacked a bald guy, and then God sent two bears after them to get them to stop. No one got hurt really, but they young adults learned a valuable lesson." |
| 17:18.09 | rsimpkins | gets a grammar gold star today. |
| 17:18.37 | rsimpkins | What I thought I typed wasn't what I actually typed. Danger zone for sys admins. |
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| 17:54.28 | youtah | joshh, rsimpkins, & keldwud .... know the differences are between Boy Scouts and the Military? |
| 17:54.35 | youtah | The Boy Scouts have adult supervision |
| 17:54.45 | keldwud | haha |
| 17:54.51 | keldwud | truth |
| 17:54.54 | youtah | (previous co-worker, retired military, told me that one. It's one of his favorites) |
| 17:54.55 | keldwud | I've been in both |
| 17:55.20 | youtah | He used to be in MI, which he also thought was a joke in of itself |
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| 17:58.08 | youtah | http://www.buzzfeed.com/jessicamisener/30-signs-youre-almost-30 |
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| 18:01.44 | youtah | spangborn, just in #photogeeks |
| 18:01.53 | youtah | I have a video Q about your D7000 |
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| 18:28.28 | Tene | Anyone here know someone who wants a part time remote contract with PHP? I've got a pretty desperate friend harassing me to ask around. |
| 18:32.38 | rsimpkins | Tene: Not ATM. Send details so we can help look. |
| 18:43.55 | Tene | Sure; getting him to put something up now. |
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| 18:57.13 | jxqz | Tene: I might be interested |
| 18:58.12 | levi | Ugh, PHP. |
| 18:58.55 | jxqz | levi uses lisppd :) |
| 19:00.44 | levi | I did once have a blog engine written in Common Lisp. Well, I still have it, but it's not running. |
| 19:01.05 | Tene | http://pastebin.com/5xtZWX4G -- Apparently he's had such an abysmally terrible time with the people they've tried before that he's paranoid about getting anyone from a public job site, rather than referrals. |
| 19:01.18 | romanovic | Tene: I've got an opening for new work soon as well. maybe we can arm wrestle for it |
| 19:01.27 | Tene | "We've had people do half of the work and then ask to be paid double, people deliver two weeks late and the work isn't acceptable, and the horror stories go on." |
| 19:01.54 | levi | Well, a lot of people, once they become good at programming, will seek to move away from jobs relating to PHP, especially PHP jobs with existing code bases. |
| 19:02.07 | Tene | Which is roughly what I'd expect from unreferred php contractors. |
| 19:02.10 | Tene | Exactly. |
| 19:02.43 | levi | Because if anything is a perfect metaphor for hell, it's other people's PHP code. |
| 19:04.39 | levi | I help out with the server admin tasks of a site with PHP forums. It's a commercial codebase, and actually very well-structured for PHP code, but it's still got some screwy stuff in it. |
| 19:05.33 | levi | I've had to crank up the php5-fpm and nginx fastcgi response timeout values in order to get it to not error out on some admin interface POSTs. |
| 19:07.37 | Tene | At least you're serving via fastcgi; my last job was running all theirs via mod_php, wich plenty of awkward apache issues. |
| 19:07.57 | Tene | Everyone else was too afraid of changing anything. |
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| 19:12.52 | levi | Well, it used to be running a free codebase that was a total mess and serving it via apache and mod_php. It was a low-memory shared hosting service, so they'd hit the memory limits and crash their server instance during heavy load. |
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| 19:13.03 | levi | I switched everything to nginx + php5-fpm |
| 19:14.51 | Tene | Ouch. |
| 19:18.57 | eightyeight | nginx is sexy, but the config is nasty |
| 19:19.41 | levi | Yeah, configuring everything was a huge pain. Might have been better to do apache + fastcgi, but that's in the past now. |
| 19:29.20 | Tene | nginx is an okay web server, but not a very good proxy, in my experience, and a terrible load balancer. |
| 19:31.33 | goozbach | vagrant is where it's at! |
| 19:31.41 | goozbach | vagrant in front of apache or cherokee |
| 19:33.06 | levi | I thought varnish was the uber-proxy/load-balancer. |
| 19:33.43 | goozbach | %s/vagrant/varnish/g |
| 19:33.45 | goozbach | my bad |
| 19:34.18 | levi | Tene: My primary consideration was memory usage, and nginx's event-based model is very frugal with memory. |
| 19:34.39 | Tene | levi: Yes, rather. Apache's prefork model, however, is definitely not. |
| 19:34.59 | levi | Heh, yeah. And that's the only model you can use with mod_php. |
| 19:35.01 | Tene | Varnish is a fantastic proxy, yes. |
| 19:35.19 | Tene | Yep. :/ |
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| 19:40.29 | youtah | Okay, so click on this. BUT NOT YET! Read this entire thing first! It is the search results for "Do the Harlem Shake" on Youtube. Warning, some of the thumbnails for the videos might be considered NSFW, which is why I am warning you. However, you are not going there for the videos, or the thumbnails, or the descriptions, or the ads. Well, sort of. |
| 19:40.36 | youtah | Okay, now here's the link http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=do+the+harlem+shake |
| 19:40.59 | Migs | that was almost TL;DR |
| 19:41.06 | Migs | now I'm not even sure I want to click the link |
| 19:41.20 | youtah | lol |
| 19:41.33 | youtah | Last time people complained that I didn't give enough warning |
| 19:41.37 | youtah | this time I gave too much. |
| 19:42.57 | levi | tries to figure out how to use the netlink library to talk to the WiFi driver. :/ |
| 19:43.36 | eightyeight | nice |
| 19:44.42 | eightyeight | youtah: that's impressive |
| 19:45.22 | youtah | I'd be super duper really impressed if it was all CSS3 and HTML5 |
| 19:45.39 | youtah | but I am sure it is like 90 million pounds of javascript behind the scenes |
| 19:45.43 | eightyeight | considering that HTML5 is largely javascript.... |
| 19:45.52 | youtah | hasn't looked. |
| 19:45.56 | youtah | doesn't care to look/ |
| 19:48.56 | keldwud | http://durham.io/2013/07/09/seth-vidal-creator-of-yum-open-source-software-killed-in-bike-accident-off-hillandale-rd/ |
| 19:49.42 | keldwud | http://xkcd.com/686/ |
| 19:49.44 | Migs | apt-get is better |
| 19:51.11 | Migs | yum erase sethv |
| 19:56.30 | keldwud | lol ouch |
| 19:56.35 | keldwud | too soon? |
| 19:56.39 | goozbach | Migs: not cool |
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| 19:57.46 | keldwud | the comic is relevant because you can do a whois on skvidal right now |
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| 20:00.24 | levi | Hmm, I think my problem is I'm not subscribed to the right multicast group to get the responses I'm looking for. |
| 20:01.18 | goozbach | keldwud: yeah, I found out about it while composing an email to him |
| 20:01.26 | goozbach | he and I were working on a problem last night. |
| 20:01.31 | keldwud | ouch |
| 20:01.50 | goozbach | was wondering why he hadnt been active yet today |
| 20:01.59 | goozbach | he's usually an early morning guy |
| 20:02.12 | keldwud | how did it hit you when you finally found out / realized? |
| 20:02.27 | goozbach | I'm still in shock |
| 20:02.32 | goozbach | slash denial |
| 20:02.38 | goozbach | went on a long walk |
| 20:06.09 | levi | Bummer. :( |
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| 20:16.36 | Migs | 11228 |
| 20:16.38 | Migs | oops |
| 20:16.48 | Migs | that was my geoguessr score. Here's what I meant to post http://www.myksl.com/index/story/sid/25933393 |
| 20:17.42 | youtah | Migs that was so yesterday |
| 20:17.47 | manithree | Soccer should be banned. |
| 20:20.15 | romanovic | manithree: ^^ yes. I can see someone kicking a soccer ball in the park from my office window, trying to control the rage |
| 20:20.42 | eightyeight | just remind me not to go to soccer games. neither in brazil nor in utah |
| 20:21.05 | manithree | Think of the children http://www.ksl.com/?nid=148&sid=24994707 |
| 20:21.16 | romanovic | maybe we just need a soccer / ball registry to keep things under control. next week: california bans black and white soccer balls in favor of less scary looking yellow and pink balls with smiley faces |
| 20:21.46 | manithree | romanovic: that's a sensible compromise |
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| 20:43.40 | youtah | I need a t-shirt that says "Professional Yak Shaver" |
| 20:45.33 | Migs | That would be a great name for a bowling team. The Yak Shavers |
| 20:45.37 | Migs | or any kind of team, really |
| 20:45.40 | Migs | even a band |
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| 20:52.53 | youtah | "Shaving Yaks is my bag, baby!" |
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| 20:57.36 | youtah | http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/yak_shaving << #1 is the definition I know it by |
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| 21:05.18 | manithree | I once tried to get the job title "Lesser Dalmuti of Insidiuous Parentheses" or Lesser DIP prolly because I had never heard of yak shaving at the time |
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| 21:07.46 | shalkie | linode is trying to get some "case studies" from their users. They are offering a $100 bill credit if yours is used. https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?f=22&t=10235 |
| 21:08.11 | shalkie | Just if anyone was interested. |
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| 21:37.28 | jlp_znc | manithree: I used to have the job title "SMoTS" == "Senior Member of Technical Staff" it was on my business card and everything. |
| 21:38.20 | unum | that's five months free for me |
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| 23:41.43 | youtah | http://www.nbcnews.com/travel/death-valley-cracks-down-sidewalk-egg-frying-6C10584226 |
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| 23:57.45 | Q_Continuum | So I need a local place to put my monies. America First or Mountain America Credit Unions. Mountain America has more convienient locations for both home and work. Thoughts? |
| 23:58.05 | Q_Continuum | Any differences you guys know of? |
