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| 15:17.12 | opapo | my boot partition is full and I can't purge old linux-headers without Ubuntu complaining about needing to uninstall linux-generic |
| 15:18.08 | opapo | Can I just delete the files in /boot? or should I move them temporarily, fix packages and then move them back, then properly purge those packages? |
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| 15:26.30 | unum | may be best to move them temporarily, seems like there should be an option to just purge |
| 15:26.37 | unum | are you trying to do this from synaptic or the command line |
| 15:26.50 | opapo | commandline |
| 15:28.20 | unum | hmmmmm |
| 15:28.23 | unum | you could force the purge |
| 15:29.09 | fugue88 | opapo: I do this when /boot gets full: |
| 15:29.13 | fugue88 | dpkg-query -S vmlinuz |
| 15:29.20 | fugue88 | Pick the few oldest, ten |
| 15:29.21 | fugue88 | then |
| 15:29.25 | fugue88 | gah |
| 15:29.27 | fugue88 | Pick the few oldest, then |
| 15:29.43 | opapo | I almost have ten |
| 15:29.46 | fugue88 | apt-get purge linux-image-3.8.0-{v,v,v} |
| 15:30.00 | fugue88 | where each v in {v,v,v} is one of the revisions to remove. |
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| 15:36.52 | opapo | I think if /boot is full and there are more than 1 kernel installed apt should remove the oldest one to make room for the new one. |
| 15:38.10 | goozbach | the problem comes from the fact that the old knowledge of how big /boot should be hasn't kept pace with how big kernels and initrds are getting now |
| 15:38.33 | goozbach | I just modified all the servers across the board for a customer to 1G /boot partitions (well the kickstarts anyway) |
| 15:38.50 | goozbach | the old 100M limit wasn't getting it donw |
| 15:38.52 | goozbach | er done |
| 15:38.58 | goozbach | could install tops two kernels |
| 15:39.18 | goozbach | when we downloaded an anaconda image to do an in-place update we would run out of space |
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| 15:39.24 | goozbach | disk is cheap |
| 15:39.53 | opapo | I have 250M~ of space in /boot and about 5-6 kernels |
| 15:40.08 | opapo | If I'm reading things correctly |
| 15:40.22 | goozbach | and the idea of Apt automatically removing kernels is a bad one |
| 15:40.36 | goozbach | kernel updates should be manual |
| 15:40.49 | goozbach | and should follow this pattern |
| 15:40.53 | goozbach | 1) install new kernel |
| 15:41.06 | goozbach | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:41.13 | goozbach | 2) boot into new kernel |
| 15:41.36 | goozbach | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:41.42 | goozbach | 3) move on |
| 15:42.01 | goozbach | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:42.12 | goozbach | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:43.38 | opapo | I can deal with that for me, but if there is a grandma who has been given an Ubuntu box for internet and Open office, she's not willing to do that |
| 15:44.33 | fugue88 | goozbach: I mostly agree. Disagreement: Desktop users shouldn't have to do that. Disagreement to the disagreement: Desktop users who are ignorant of updating kernels manually probably won't create separate /boot. |
| 15:45.13 | opapo | not creating space for /boot is a good idea for grandma |
| 15:45.27 | fugue88 | Unfortunately, I sized my /boot partitions (4, for 4 different OS's) long ago. I too can fit only two kernels of Ubuntu 13.04. |
| 15:45.27 | opapo | I have another issue now: linux-generic : Depends: linux-image-generic (= 3.2.0.43.51) but 3.2.0.45.54 is to be installed |
| 15:47.08 | opapo | If I'm getting the error: |
| 15:47.09 | opapo | linux-generic : Depends: linux-image-generic (= 3.2.0.43.51) but 3.2.0.45.54 is to be installed |
| 15:47.39 | opapo | do I need to revert kernels and then fix packages? |
| 15:48.13 | opapo | It tells me to do "apt-get -f install" to fix the problem. It only gets me back to the same error. |
| 15:56.39 | opapo | rebooting to see if that will help. |
| 15:56.44 | opapo | Wish me luck! |
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| 16:03.19 | opapo | I rebooted and still have the same issue. |
| 16:03.35 | opapo | Attempting now to purge the 3.2.0.45 kernel |
| 16:05.22 | opapo | I can't get past this error! |
| 16:05.40 | opapo | I can't "apt-get -f install" without the error |
| 16:06.23 | opapo | I can't "aptitude purge linux-image-3.2.0-45-generic" without the error |
| 16:06.55 | opapo | I can't "dpkg --configure -a" without this error |
| 16:06.59 | opapo | What can I do? |
| 16:28.55 | youtah | HOLY CRAP |
| 16:29.01 | youtah | Can we have a do-over for last weekend? |
| 16:29.08 | youtah | because it was AWESOME and I'd love to do it again! |
| 16:29.55 | opapo | Hop in you TARDIS and go |
| 16:30.03 | youtah | lol |
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| 16:41.18 | Jayce^ | youtah: but you missed out on the part you really really wanted |
| 16:44.47 | opapo | FYI removing linux-generic, then installing it again worked, though it was scary. |
| 16:44.56 | opapo | http://askubuntu.com/questions/261230/unmet-dependencies-linux-generic |
| 16:45.03 | opapo | ^^^ helped me out |
| 16:49.09 | youtah | lol Jayce^ ... you recover yet? You see your brother trash talkin' you on twitter? |
| 16:49.28 | youtah | Good to know, thanks opapo |
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| 16:50.11 | youtah | Is it Photo Monday? |
| 16:56.03 | jsmith | youtah: Only if you send me some better glass :-p |
| 16:56.26 | jsmith | could use a macro lens and a nice wide-angle one too |
| 16:57.11 | jsmith | youtah: In fact, I was going to do some fun light-painting with fireflies this morning around 2:30am, but I was on a conference call with work and didn't get a long enough break to setup the tripod, etc. |
| 16:57.56 | goozbach | speaking of photos, I'm looking for some free to use images for my site which are related to building infrastructure |
| 16:58.02 | goozbach | anyone have any of those? |
| 16:58.08 | goozbach | cc by preferably |
| 17:00.57 | youtah | lol jsmith |
| 17:01.07 | youtah | I have really enjoyed my 12-24mm Sigma |
| 17:01.29 | youtah | try searching with that criteria goozbach on flickr |
| 17:01.36 | youtah | You can search by license |
| 17:02.43 | goozbach | youtah: doing so now, just wondering if any of ya'll had any "gee wiz" photos I could narrow down |
| 17:02.47 | goozbach | already in mind |
| 17:03.02 | goozbach | finding a photo with a specific licence is easy |
| 17:03.11 | goozbach | finding one that looks good is another thing entirely |
| 17:03.26 | youtah | http://imgur.com/gallery/LSKey & http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pKUxILeenGo << this weekend |
| 17:03.38 | youtah | I don't goozbach, especially technology related. |
| 17:03.51 | goozbach | nice |
| 17:04.04 | goozbach | how bout clouds? youtah got any cloud photos? |
| 17:04.22 | youtah | Like cloud as in internet, or clouds as in sky? |
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| 17:05.41 | goozbach | either one :) |
| 17:11.39 | youtah | Possibly |
| 17:11.43 | youtah | I do like photography clouds |
| 17:11.51 | youtah | I'll see if I can dig some up |
| 17:12.02 | youtah | remind me though, I have a friggen ton on my plate right now |
| 17:21.26 | goozbach | no worries |
| 17:23.50 | youtah | This one's for harleypig http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zZaiB9jYCxI |
| 17:24.31 | youtah | yeah |
| 17:25.16 | youtah | starts swearing a bit at 2 minutes into it |
| 17:26.21 | Jayce^ | what's a photography cloud ? |
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| 17:56.32 | youtah | ~lart Jayce^ |
| 17:56.32 | ibot | throws a AN/M-8 smoke grenade at Jayce^ |
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| 19:25.10 | youtah | Jayce^, you need to share your "What the" video in there. |
| 19:26.09 | Jayce^ | what the? |
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| 19:53.17 | harleypig_ | youtah: eh .. the original is better |
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| 20:02.24 | jlp_work | http://live.solarimpulse.com/ <- solar impulse is in flight today going from dallas to st. louis |
| 20:03.45 | jlp_work | currently at FL211 and traveling at 24 knots. woo! |
| 20:03.57 | youtah | knot as fast as I would expect |
| 20:04.41 | youtah | 27.6mph |
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| 20:18.43 | unum | anyone else reading about the scalia dissent? |
| 20:22.22 | Gate | just did |
| 20:23.46 | unum | in the context of the case swab solved it's hard not to support it, but it would be nice if there were some more ground rules |
| 20:28.55 | fadein | unum: link? |
| 20:29.44 | Gate | I presume he's talking about: http://www.businessinsider.com/scalias-dissent-in-maryland-v-king-2013-6 |
| 20:34.24 | harleypig_ | Gate: Is that blocked by a paywall ... the link isn't loading past some kind of redirect screen |
| 20:35.00 | youtah | https://maps.google.com/help/maps/helloworld/desktop/preview/ |
| 20:35.58 | unum | http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/06/03/us-usa-court-scalia-analysis-idUSBRE95211Y20130603 |
| 20:36.02 | unum | is the one I was ridding |
| 20:36.06 | unum | but there are probably 100s |
| 20:38.20 | harleypig_ | youtah: so if I searched google maps for brothels in provo it would show me similar busineses and friends reviews? |
| 20:41.43 | youtah | Yes harleypig |
| 20:41.51 | harleypig_ | cool |
| 20:43.32 | youtah | Why do they always use San Fransisco? |
| 20:43.35 | youtah | as examples |
| 20:43.39 | youtah | I mean no one really lives there |
| 20:44.31 | youtah | LOL |
| 20:44.38 | youtah | It even compares public transite |
| 20:44.43 | youtah | transit |
| 20:44.52 | youtah | so essentially it will never be usable in Salt Lake |
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| 21:18.17 | SunSparc | Are there any benefits to using LVM1 instead of LVM2? |
| 21:19.44 | jlp_work | it's been around longer and may have fewer bugs? (note, no guarantee that it actually *has* fewer bugs) |
| 21:20.38 | SunSparc | jlp_work: good point |
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| 21:27.11 | goozbach | SunSparc: why not use lvm2? |
| 21:27.34 | goozbach | or more accurately "why not use the one which is the default for your distro?" |
| 21:27.36 | SunSparc | goozbach: Exactly. :) |
| 21:28.14 | SunSparc | This is my first forray into using LVM, I am just wondering if there is any good reason to consider using version 1 over version 2. |
| 21:29.01 | goozbach | nah |
| 21:30.12 | SunSparc | Good enough for me. :) |
| 21:30.43 | SunSparc | ~jlp_work++ |
| 21:30.50 | SunSparc | ~goozbach++ |
| 21:35.09 | goozbach | really you kinda have to go out of your way nowdays for v1 |
| 21:37.13 | SunSparc | Yeah. The reason I ask is because I was reading about them both on tldp. (http://tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO/snapshotintro.html) |
| 21:38.21 | goozbach | ahh |
| 21:40.16 | SunSparc | It is pretty old documentation anyway. |
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| 22:54.10 | Gate | harleypig_: I got an annoying ad, not a paywall. Sorry. |
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