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| 07:35.59 | bonez2046 | any night owls here? |
| 07:41.34 | bonez2046 | need help testing my network configuration |
| 11:54.38 | klys | bonez2046: still doing that? |
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| 11:57.00 | klys | ~slashdot |
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| 13:41.06 | bonez2046 | klys: yes, still workingn on that |
| 13:41.26 | klys | hi |
| 13:41.50 | bonez2046 | if I plug directly into the modem, it gives me an ip address, and I connect fine |
| 13:42.41 | bonez2046 | but if I plug into the cable modem with a router (wrt54g or new belkin ac900db) neither one will train up and route... |
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| 13:43.00 | bonez2046 | the routers let me see my lan but won't connect me to WAN |
| 13:43.59 | bonez2046 | I am confident it's something simple...when I plug this new belkin device in, it acts like it wants to train up and connect but it won't connect |
| 13:48.07 | bonez2046 | klys: do you have any suggestions? |
| 13:49.38 | klys | is DHCP enabled on the wrt54g ? |
| 13:50.47 | klys | also is the belkin router configured for an ethernet lan or some other wan? |
| 13:51.34 | klys | also when you plug your computer into wrt54g, does it connect to wan? |
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| 13:59.31 | bonez2046 | DHCP is enabled on the wrt54g |
| 14:00.19 | bonez2046 | I reset the belkin router. I had it hooked up and routing locally, but not connecting to WAN, so i hit the factory reset button |
| 14:01.01 | bonez2046 | but even now, I'll plug it directly into the cable modem, it acts like it wants to train and connect but then flashes out and doesn't connect |
| 14:01.33 | bonez2046 | I had comcast on the phone and the tweaked this and that and had it temporarily connected to both LAN and WAN |
| 14:01.55 | bonez2046 | but now it won't, but neither will the WRT54G connect to WAN either |
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| 14:02.58 | bonez2046 | again, the comcast cable modem gateway device works fine...i have an AT&T microcell device connected to it and that works just fine, so i know it's after the cable modem |
| 14:03.46 | bonez2046 | my linux box as well as a MacBook both connect just fine to WAN when plugged directly into the cable modem |
| 14:07.47 | klys | I mean, if you plug in the box or laptop and then turn the power on, does it train |
| 14:09.54 | klys | also, do you have more than one pci network card you could plug into the box |
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| 14:22.25 | bonez2046 | klys: I'll check those, and I am calling BELKIN in 40 mins when they open |
| 14:23.16 | bonez2046 | here's another item |
| 14:24.04 | bonez2046 | when I first opened the belkin and plugged it in, I could not access it...because my /etc/network/interfaces was set up for static ip assignment to my ubuntu box |
| 14:24.50 | bonez2046 | after I altered my interfaces file to dhcp then I could 'see' the belkin router set up screens |
| 14:26.17 | bonez2046 | here's what I don't get...if I power up the belkin, but just have an ethernet cable from my machine (mac or ubuntu, configured for DHCP) and not plugged into WAN, shouldn't I get access to the configuration pages of the device, any device? |
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| 14:36.23 | klys | your computer is runing apache? ethernet cards don't come with a webserver for admin or any reason |
| 14:36.58 | klys | if you have two network cards you can route with iptables. |
| 14:37.16 | klys | then you get the option for fair queueing. |
| 14:38.40 | bonez2046 | I have apache running on it, though i haven't tweaked with apache in a few years |
| 14:38.55 | bonez2046 | I only have one NIC |
| 14:39.25 | klys | are you doing gigabit |
| 14:39.31 | bonez2046 | when I wrote, 'config pages of the device', the device in question is the belkin router, not my NIC |
| 14:39.45 | bonez2046 | I'd be happy with kilobit at this point |
| 14:40.11 | bonez2046 | I meant the web admin/gui CONFIG pages for the router |
| 14:40.33 | bonez2046 | accessed via 192.168.15.1 or whatever for that particular device/router |
| 14:40.40 | klys | that should be on http://192.168.1.1:8080 |
| 14:40.50 | bonez2046 | right |
| 14:41.19 | klys | there may be a setting which requires you to admin through the mgmt port |
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| 14:41.34 | bonez2046 | I won't know until I disconnect the ether cable from my ubuntu box and plug back into my router |
| 14:44.56 | bonez2046 | ok, back soon |
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| 14:45.23 | klys | http://www.pricewatch.com/price/networking/gigabit |
| 14:46.00 | klys | just see: make menuconfig (kernel) for supported ethernet |
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| 16:07.30 | opapo | I need help allowing anonymous write access to a windows file share |
| 16:08.35 | opapo | I have the file shared and anonymous user has full rights to it and anonymous user has access to that folder in the local security policy |
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| 16:39.26 | youtah | MORNING! |
| 16:39.28 | youtah | http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130524/13210023206/good-question-why-is-eric-holder-charge-investigation-eric-holder-spying-journalists.shtml |
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| 17:12.01 | Q_Continuum | Fox guarding the henhouse doesn't even cover that one. |
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| 19:53.14 | kylie_ | Argh |
| 19:53.18 | kylie_ | Put in money for vending machine |
| 19:53.27 | kylie_ | Start to push E10 for Twix |
| 19:53.35 | kylie_ | Go to push E-1-0 |
| 19:53.47 | kylie_ | And don't realise there is a 10 |
| 19:53.52 | kylie_ | Get stupid payday bar instead |
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| 20:04.31 | jlp_work | kylie_: always read the full user interface before interacting with it. |
| 20:04.43 | kylie_ | Yeah, learnt my lesson |
| 20:04.45 | kylie_ | However |
| 20:05.03 | kylie_ | I encounter more 1-9 number buttons |
| 20:05.05 | kylie_ | than 1-10 |
| 20:05.26 | jlp_work | indeed. I suspect there wasn't a "zero" button at all |
| 20:06.01 | kylie_ | There is, I think. |
| 20:06.14 | kylie_ | letter(0-10) |
| 20:06.25 | kylie_ | Unless I blocked the 1 from 10 out of my brain |
| 20:06.26 | jlp_work | oh really? weird. |
| 20:06.29 | kylie_ | which happesn frequently |
| 20:06.32 | kylie_ | *happens |
| 20:08.38 | jlp_work | Real programmers don't bring brown bag lunches to work. If the vending machine sells it, they eat it. If the vending machine doesn't sell it, they don't eat it. Vending machines don't sell quiche. <- from the real programmers list |
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| 20:17.18 | kylie_ | Hahaha, story of my life. |
| 20:17.36 | kylie_ | On a new note, nice new open source project I've found http://www.mathics.net/ |
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| 20:22.40 | jlp_work | cool. have to show that to my kids (they're taking math 1010 at slcc this summer) |
| 20:23.29 | Tene | There's no vending machines in my office; all the food is just available on shelves. :( |
| 20:27.13 | jlp_work | kylie_: sadly, no ParametricPlot3D in mathics.net :-( |
| 20:28.15 | kylie_ | There's a lot of things it's missing |
| 20:28.23 | kylie_ | That things such as Sage and Mathematica already have. :-\ |
| 20:28.38 | kylie_ | I think it's mostly algebraic at this point. :P |
| 20:29.55 | kylie_ | So it'd be good for students in <math 1050 |
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| 20:53.40 | youtah | drop kicks the payday bar for kylie_ |
| 20:53.55 | jsmith | youtah: Too late -- I already ate it |
| 20:54.50 | youtah | lol |
| 20:55.43 | youtah | Downpour rain at like 45 degrees + 53 degrees outside + wind + lightning + broken rain gutter + window wells flooding = awesome times! |
| 20:56.47 | Tene | It's bright and sunny outside here, just like almost every day. |
| 20:57.06 | youtah | throws his milkshake to the ground and walks out of the room. |
| 20:57.23 | youtah | runs back into the room, picks up the milkshake, and then walks back out of the room. |
| 20:57.45 | romanovic | youtah: i feel your pain. part of my rain gutter blew away in a rain storm last year, and i haven't replaced it yet, but really should |
| 20:57.49 | Q_Continuum | I'M UNDER 400! (Tabs in my browser) |
| 20:58.08 | Q_Continuum | youtah: New place or existing place? |
| 20:58.39 | romanovic | just a vertical piece, but without it the rain water from part of the roof drains onto the outside surface of the house, and i think little cracks are appearing in the spackle |
| 20:59.18 | youtah | Parents house |
| 21:00.03 | Q_Continuum | ah |
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| 21:02.32 | youtah | yeah |
| 21:02.53 | youtah | it was fun. That was 90 minutes ago. I'm still soaked. |
| 21:07.14 | youtah | Q_Continuum, did you happen to see what that firetruck, ambulance and police cars were doing down and around Market Street Grill? |
| 21:08.57 | youtah | I was at my parents (around the corner) when I heard/saw some heavy lightning flashes/thunder. About 2 minutes, shortly after, I heard the sirens from the Firestation on Wasatch Blvd going and I was wondering where they went |
| 21:09.26 | Q_Continuum | youtah: Nope. I was just leaving Sugarhouse when the rain hit |
| 21:09.35 | youtah | when I returned from my parents house, they were just wrapping things up and were leaving. I was curious as to what I had missed. I was hoping it was *not* someone getting hit by lightning. |
| 21:09.55 | Q_Continuum | (stopped for lunch on way to DC up by airport to set a T1 up for the provider to troubleshoot) |
| 21:10.13 | Q_Continuum | COuld've struck a tree or something and started a fire. |
| 21:12.53 | youtah | They were all parked along Cottonwood Parkway, just off of 3000 East, in the right hand turn lane (south side of the road) |
| 21:13.10 | youtah | no car debris from a wreck. That typically takes at least an hour to clean up. |
| 21:22.23 | youtah | Who was it in here, that said they were apart of installing all of the new Camera systems in ?Davis? County? |
| 21:22.31 | youtah | Migs, maybe? |
| 21:22.50 | youtah | (for the public education system that is) |
| 21:23.55 | youtah | http://www.ksl.com/?sid=25364677&nid=148&title=north-davis-junior-high-placed-on-lockdown-&fm=home_page&s_cid=featured-1 |
| 21:25.31 | Q_Continuum | Need...caffeine... |
| 21:35.23 | romanovic | ~give Q_Continuum red bull |
| 21:35.23 | ibot | ACTION gives red bull to Q_Continuum |
| 21:36.30 | Q_Continuum | Heh. I already retrieved a wild cherry pepsi from the vending machine |
| 21:36.43 | shalkie | tene: And I bet you get free massages and miniture golf too... Oh wait, you probably do. :-P |
| 21:37.01 | Tene | I would if I ever bothered to use them |
| 21:37.48 | jlp_work | we just get free beverages and lunch every day. we're on our own for snacks. |
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| 21:38.06 | Q_Continuum | WOOOH UNDER 350 TABS! |
| 21:38.30 | Q_Continuum | Do a task, tackle 5 more... |
| 21:38.34 | jlp_work | Q_Continuum: what browser? |
| 21:39.24 | Q_Continuum | Firefox, with the built-in "don't load tabs on start" function and TabKit 2nd Edition |
| 21:39.28 | shalkie | turns up the heat on his electric blanket he has piled on. |
| 21:39.38 | shalkie | The advantages to working from home. :-) |
| 21:39.44 | youtah | loves electric blankets, and I don't care how lame it sounds. |
| 21:39.56 | Q_Continuum | Used to be a seperate addon called 'BarTab' until the developer got hired by Mozilla, then he only half-integrated its functionality :-/ |
| 21:40.05 | Q_Continuum | The rest died in the Thunderdome :-( |
| 21:40.18 | youtah | I heard ALT+F4 (if you're on windows) works well too! |
| 21:40.20 | youtah | ;-) |
| 21:40.35 | jlp_work | yeah, just hold it down. |
| 21:40.43 | jlp_work | those tabs will be gone before you know it! |
| 21:40.46 | shalkie | ^-q ? |
| 21:40.55 | youtah | the switch on the back of the power supply does the same thing |
| 21:41.14 | Q_Continuum | youtah: switch on power supply? |
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| 21:41.19 | Q_Continuum | looks at power brick for a switch |
| 21:41.26 | Q_Continuum | nope |
| 21:41.43 | jlp_work | whispers laptop user |
| 21:41.54 | youtah | lol |
| 21:41.59 | youtah | Water |
| 21:42.04 | youtah | pour water on it |
| 21:42.17 | youtah | but video tape it first |
| 21:42.19 | Q_Continuum | jlp_work: Yeah, its a quad-core i7 w/HT and 16GB of RAM. I'm not complaining :-D |
| 21:42.24 | jlp_work | sweet |
| 21:42.31 | Q_Continuum | and a 256GB SSD |
| 21:42.34 | Q_Continuum | that made me upgrade at home |
| 21:42.46 | Q_Continuum | I was holding off because I knew once I had one I'd have to have it in all my machines |
| 21:42.57 | Q_Continuum | new job came with new machine with SSD |
| 21:43.03 | Q_Continuum | and BAM I had to upgrade all mine at home. lol |
| 21:43.09 | jlp_work | dremex_work just got a new laptop, but I don't know the specs. I know he was looking for something like that. |
| 21:43.41 | Yorokobi | Sounds like my MBPro :) |
| 21:44.02 | Q_Continuum | 15.6" but only 1600x900 and the nVidia GPU limits me to 2 of the 3 displays on my desk |
| 21:44.12 | Q_Continuum | It works plenty fine though :-D |
| 21:44.26 | Q_Continuum | Will probably need a USB video adapter to get the third one going. |
| 21:45.41 | youtah | Does anyone have a cell phone with hot spot capabilities for Verizon Wireless, a web cam, a Raspberry Pi and a UPS? |
| 21:45.49 | youtah | that they're willing to donate to me? |
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| 21:45.54 | Q_Continuum | hahahaha |
| 21:46.04 | jlp_work | no. no one does. |
| 21:46.19 | Q_Continuum | RasPi: $50 shipped + case, UPS $50, web cam $50, cell phone + data = spendy |
| 21:48.13 | Yorokobi | youtah, if the phone is an Android, get FoxFi |
| 21:49.09 | youtah | yeah, I am trying to figure out a way to set up a remote, wireless system, to remotely monitor my cabin which has frequent power outtages and brown outs. |
| 21:49.28 | youtah | remote, wireless, video camera, that is |
| 21:49.36 | youtah | for as cheap as possible |
| 21:50.23 | youtah | $10 a month for a third line that shares the data plan, isn't that bad. The only bad part is the two year contract |
| 21:50.31 | jlp_work | 1saleaday.com routinely has foscam units on sale. |
| 21:50.32 | youtah | and Verizon is the *only* carrier out there with service |
| 21:50.54 | jlp_work | but wifi or wired ethernet only... you'd have to find some other way to connect it to verizon |
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| 21:53.21 | jxqz | youtah: pick up a couple of solar panels, charge controller, and lead battery |
| 21:53.41 | jxqz | you can use that to power your system |
| 21:54.05 | jlp_work | http://www.verizonwireless.com/b2c/store/controller?item=phoneFirst&action=viewPhoneDetail&selectedPhoneId=6411 |
| 21:54.06 | youtah | Sweet, thanks Yorokobi! FoxFi looks awesome! |
| 21:54.10 | Yorokobi | I think he was going for inexpensive solutions. |
| 21:54.26 | jlp_work | pshaw |
| 21:54.28 | jxqz | http://www.morningstarcorp.com/en/products |
| 21:55.35 | youtah | $99 + $20 a month? |
| 21:55.42 | youtah | *sigh* |
| 21:56.09 | jlp_work | but it does give you essentially unlimited wifi at the cabin, not just for the camera |
| 21:57.06 | youtah | If the device was $40 and it was $5 a month.... Oh man.... |
| 21:57.15 | youtah | then it would be super tempting |
| 21:59.18 | Q_Continuum | You're sure Verizon is the only one that gets connectivity? |
| 21:59.24 | Q_Continuum | Tested all the others? |
| 22:00.10 | Q_Continuum | Could set up a computer + battery + camera and just write out stuff to a local disk that you can peruse without remote access, better than nothing |
| 22:00.26 | youtah | So when we have friends that come up, they don't have reception. AT&T, Nextel, T-Mobile, etc |
| 22:00.33 | Q_Continuum | Sprint? |
| 22:00.39 | youtah | Sprint too |
| 22:00.49 | jlp_work | I think I impressed youtah with my foscam unit watching my front door. it e-mails me when someone walks up to the house. |
| 22:00.53 | Q_Continuum | k. Because I know there were some cheap resellers of Clear's offerings |
| 22:01.25 | youtah | Which tickets me off, because literally 5 miles down the road (west) of the cabin, Most of those *do* have service |
| 22:01.36 | Q_Continuum | jlp_work's setup could be used to send a text message, that would be cheaper - basic old phone that can be wired to send a text on command, and get pay-as-you-go service for $10/month? |
| 22:02.11 | youtah | hmmmmmmmm......... |
| 22:02.17 | Q_Continuum | Well, it comes down to how much is having immediate knowledge/viewing of whats going on worth? Will any insurance premiums go down by such a installation? |
| 22:02.21 | Q_Continuum | (That would offset or pay for it?) |
| 22:02.33 | youtah | I didn't even think about that |
| 22:02.36 | jlp_work | could send an mms message that includes the picture(s) |
| 22:02.47 | Q_Continuum | ^ |
| 22:03.01 | Q_Continuum | or even just a text "detected movement" for less |
| 22:03.12 | Q_Continuum | (If set up in such a way that animals wouldn't set it off) |
| 22:03.19 | Q_Continuum | Either or. |
| 22:03.28 | youtah | Eventhen |
| 22:03.30 | Q_Continuum | Pay-As-You-Go is probably your cheapest path. |
| 22:03.31 | youtah | Even then |
| 22:03.40 | youtah | if it's inside the cabin, Animals shouldn't be there either |
| 22:03.43 | Q_Continuum | At least you know something tripped it. Or a security system on windows/doors. |
| 22:04.01 | Q_Continuum | "Window 5 sensor tripped." |
| 22:04.11 | Q_Continuum | Followed by "Door sensor tripped." |
| 22:04.20 | Q_Continuum | Hmmm...someone went in the window and out the door. |
| 22:04.53 | youtah | Followed by "Refrigerator sensor tripped." |
| 22:05.50 | Q_Continuum | Cheap, and onsite camera footage could be retrieved later. Store the storage in a not-findable spot though heh |
| 22:05.58 | Q_Continuum | So they don't see the camera and take it. |
| 22:06.12 | Q_Continuum | or hide that too |
| 22:06.36 | youtah | Two raspberry pi's syncing via blue tooth, one hidden behind the toaster. |
| 22:06.38 | jlp_work | nice video of bear raiding fridge soon to post on youtube |
| 22:06.58 | Q_Continuum | hahaha |
| 22:07.03 | youtah | lol |
| 22:07.22 | Q_Continuum | MONETIZE THAT FOOTAGE! (To pay for the busted window and stolen fridge contents) |
| 22:08.54 | Q_Continuum | Look for 'GSM modem' for non-phone-based options |
| 22:09.10 | Q_Continuum | used for all sorts of embedded designs |
| 22:09.20 | jlp_work | http://www.howtogeek.com/139373/how-to-turn-an-old-android-phone-into-a-networked-security-camera/ <- if you've got an old android phone you could reactivate |
| 22:09.22 | Q_Continuum | I would think Verizon would have an option for it |
| 22:09.56 | youtah | Someone sent me this too http://skjm.com/icam/support.php |
| 22:12.25 | shalkie | I looked through the new tmobile terms of service recently and the idea of using it as some sort of permanent network connection was a no fly. |
| 22:12.46 | jlp_work | shalkie: simply don't tell them. :-/ |
| 22:13.52 | Q_Continuum | If it doesn't use data 24/7 they won't know the diff. |
| 22:14.04 | Q_Continuum | Many phones are connected all the time and intermittently use data |
| 22:14.09 | Q_Continuum | Anyway time to GTFO |
| 22:25.42 | shalkie | TMo has been pretty good on the "Doesn't break our network? Don't really care..." front. |
| 22:25.58 | shalkie | For me anyways. |
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| 23:23.58 | jxqz | you could setup a repeater at your friend's cabin |
| 23:24.04 | jxqz | youtah: |
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| 23:34.30 | klys | ~quote mu |
| 23:35.42 | klys | ~slashdot |
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| 23:44.07 | klys | http://www.ksl.com/?sid=25358352&nid=1016&title=which-countries-are-the-most-religious |