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| 01:20.40 | fozzmoo | White balance? |
| 01:42.00 | JalenJade | possibly but some shots that are different are in the exact same spot |
| 01:46.26 | JalenJade | just something that's confusing me and i want to fix if possible in the next few days. (fix in the camera I can probably edit the photos) |
| 01:55.03 | goozbach | http://www.reddit.com/r/sysadmin/comments/1eelz7/til_apparently_one_giant_company_owns_all_the/ |
| 01:55.08 | goozbach | front page of reddit today |
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| 14:25.05 | Migs | http://www.winnipegsun.com/2013/05/16/deer-crashes-through-bus-windshield |
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| 14:52.44 | findlay | hello |
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| 14:59.49 | findlay | someone here needs to get me a job |
| 14:59.57 | findlay | 1 job please, kthxbye |
| 15:00.44 | eightyeight | ~hire findlay |
| 15:00.44 | ibot | ACTION hires findlay along with BLZbubba as a NSA Headquarters Janitorial Staff Supervisor, at 2 loonies/hour to start |
| 15:02.54 | shalkie | findlay: We are hiring. Do you love Linux and Travel? :-) |
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| 16:19.41 | keldwud | youtah: thanks for the info :) it would be entertaining to watch the traffic. I also remember when krispy kreme first came here. |
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| 16:25.10 | unum | so if I have a local git repository and I want to create the remote repository do I use the --mirror option? |
| 16:28.12 | unum | looks like it |
| 16:32.20 | manithree | unum: use gitolite3 |
| 16:32.38 | manithree | then you don't have to manually create remote repos |
| 16:36.32 | youtah | np keldwud |
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| 16:38.52 | youtah | Alright y'all.... it's Photo Thursday time! |
| 16:39.06 | youtah | I just uploaded 6 more photos... http://www.jeffmcgrathphotography.com/Art/views-vistas/ |
| 16:42.43 | youtah | hey fozzmoo .... you going somewhere this weekend? |
| 16:46.58 | Migs | those are some stupidly good photos |
| 16:47.08 | Migs | favorite: http://www.jeffmcgrathphotography.com/Art/views-vistas/i-KP34s7g/0/XL/20130515-_DSC0324-XL.jpg |
| 16:47.27 | Migs | I totally Facebook-liked that one |
| 16:48.18 | fadein | Migs: and you totallly IRC-liked it, too |
| 16:48.30 | fadein | IRC: the original social network |
| 16:49.35 | keldwud | so besides OMSA (OpenManage Server Administrator (dell)), is there another tool/solution for managing BIOS settings for n machines? |
| 16:49.45 | keldwud | I thought usenet was the original social network? |
| 16:49.55 | fadein | keldwud: touche |
| 16:50.00 | keldwud | :) |
| 16:50.10 | keldwud | because that technically predated BBSes |
| 16:50.20 | keldwud | and was more "global" |
| 16:50.34 | keldwud | BBSes were generally hyperlocal |
| 16:50.44 | fadein | likes http://www.jeffmcgrathphotography.com/Art/views-vistas/28608774_h6Sfrx#!i=2515799189&k=Wrh9hBd |
| 16:56.07 | eightyeight | it's bad enough people highlight others on irc with '@nick'. now we have 'likes' on irc? |
| 16:56.36 | Migs | ~like http://www.jeffmcgrathphotography.com/Art/views-vistas/i-KP34s7g/0/XL/20130515-_DSC0324-XL.jpg |
| 16:56.37 | ibot | ACTION smooches http://www.jeffmcgrathphotography.com/Art/views-vistas/i-KP34s7g/0/XL/20130515-_DSC0324-XL.jpg on the cheek |
| 16:56.40 | eightyeight | shakes his head |
| 16:56.46 | Migs | Excellent. |
| 16:57.06 | youtah | Gracias Migs |
| 16:57.43 | youtah | lol, thanks for the smooth ibot |
| 16:58.06 | youtah | yeah fadein, that was one of my favorites as well. And that one isn't an antelope slot canyon photo either. |
| 17:01.07 | youtah | fadein, that canyon also got to be super narrow in multiple spots. To the point in which I had to take off my jacket because the bumps in the wall started to tear my sweatshirt. |
| 17:02.08 | youtah | This was one of the many spots https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/579071_10200941169995712_572278579_n.jpg |
| 17:02.17 | fadein | youtah: where is that canyon? is it the same one that frequents nat'l geographic and other travel literature? |
| 17:02.32 | fadein | wow |
| 17:03.23 | youtah | The one that you will see a million photos of, including the ones from National Geographic, is Antelope Slot Canyon. It's on an Indian reservation just outside of page Arizona. There are two canyons, yet only people only visit one. If you tip the guide well... yeah, it can be awesome. |
| 17:03.38 | youtah | we always tip going in, and then afterwards. |
| 17:04.08 | youtah | you then jump in the back of this large truck, with large sand tires on it, and they drive to to the spot |
| 17:04.40 | youtah | This is the one you're thinking of.... http://www.flickr.com/photos/slc_jm/sets/72157623758810321/ |
| 17:05.18 | youtah | That very first shot, you could squeeze at least 50~60 people into. It's a rather large area. |
| 17:09.01 | youtah | the shot that you liked, is about 30 miles outside of the small town Escalante |
| 17:09.13 | youtah | via dirt road |
| 17:11.18 | youtah | If you guys can see this, (it's set to public) here are behind the scenes shots from that trip. It has my Brother in law, Phill Monson, and Kevin McNeal in the shots. This will give you an idea as to how tight the quarters were... https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.10200940586621128.1073741825.1359725386&type=3 |
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| 17:20.07 | youtah | uh oh... smcquay just joined #utah |
| 17:20.18 | youtah | not sure if he's allowed to be here.... ;-) |
| 17:21.42 | Migs | maybe if we ignore him he'll go away |
| 17:21.55 | smcquay | slinks back into the corner |
| 17:26.16 | youtah | lol |
| 17:26.20 | youtah | http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/05/15/feds-seize-bitcoin-account-for-unlicensed-money-transferring/ |
| 17:30.22 | Migs | hahaha |
| 17:48.27 | youtah | http://www.buzzfeed.com/emofly/most-perfect-foods-in-the-universe |
| 17:51.50 | keldwud | oh god |
| 17:52.19 | keldwud | they have to go after bitcoin so that whistleblower sites can't continue to function |
| 17:52.21 | keldwud | lame |
| 17:57.14 | fadein | guvmint's gonna do what guvmint's gonna do |
| 17:57.16 | youtah | so it doesn't sound like they were going after bitcoin, but rather him acting like an exchange or bank without being registered. At least that's how I interpreted it. |
| 17:57.26 | fadein | at least this way, the bad guys can't have bitcoins |
| 17:57.46 | fadein | so we're safer - stop your whining and bleat like everybody else |
| 17:58.50 | keldwud | ahh |
| 17:58.56 | keldwud | I'm quick to put on my tinfoil hat :) |
| 17:59.02 | youtah | can't blame ya |
| 17:59.03 | keldwud | lol |
| 17:59.04 | youtah | ;-) |
| 17:59.41 | keldwud | I view any threat to distributed systems and open structures as a threat to my freedoms :) |
| 17:59.51 | keldwud | I take them all personally |
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| 18:14.44 | keldwud | dilemma! |
| 18:24.18 | goozbach | what do ya'll do in your kickstart %pre scripts? |
| 18:24.50 | goozbach | I've done the auto-partition raid/nonraid based on number of drives |
| 18:25.05 | goozbach | and bail out the install if some condtion isn't set |
| 18:25.14 | goozbach | but what other things can you do there? |
| 18:26.02 | keldwud | I use preseed |
| 18:26.06 | keldwud | because ubuntu |
| 18:26.20 | keldwud | waits for the groans and the "you should be using x" arguments :) |
| 18:32.02 | eightyeight | ... yeah |
| 18:32.06 | eightyeight | preseed is the suck |
| 18:32.10 | eightyeight | fai is sex |
| 18:37.58 | keldwud | :) |
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| 18:40.22 | kylie_ | This is why I don't usually do online courses |
| 18:40.23 | kylie_ | http://pastie.org/private/wwuv0u4ood31cs1bhqmpg |
| 18:42.32 | goozbach | fai is too complicated |
| 18:42.52 | goozbach | I use kickstart on my ubuntu boxes :/ |
| 18:45.34 | Tene | preseed is pretty terrible; every time I had to deal with it, I ended up digging around in the installer source to figure out how things worked. |
| 18:46.15 | eightyeight | yeah. if you don't know the inner workings of debconf, you'll never understand preseed |
| 18:46.26 | eightyeight | it's a disaster |
| 18:46.39 | eightyeight | i find fai pretty straight forward though |
| 18:56.49 | keldwud | I love online courses |
| 18:56.57 | keldwud | udacity and coursera and edx are amazing |
| 18:57.15 | keldwud | debconf? good to know. I've been looking into how I can understand that stuff better. |
| 18:57.29 | Migs | this is the college I work for: http://theweu.com |
| 18:57.38 | Migs | free mooc courses, except they're degree-granting |
| 18:58.37 | Yorokobi | Not a fan of the Windows 8 home page. |
| 18:58.51 | Migs | us neither...we're redesigning it |
| 18:59.16 | keldwud | coursera has been offering credit for some courses :) |
| 18:59.33 | keldwud | and a georgia university has offered a master's program through udacity |
| 18:59.38 | Migs | a lot of them offer college credit through partnerships...it's pretty cool |
| 18:59.43 | keldwud | BS pre-req, of course |
| 19:00.05 | Migs | keldwud: Which georgia university? |
| 19:00.14 | kylie_ | Georgia Tech |
| 19:00.23 | kylie_ | Is doing a Master's program online |
| 19:00.32 | Migs | an entire master's program is offered through udacity? |
| 19:00.43 | Migs | oh snap |
| 19:00.53 | Migs | http://techcrunch.com/2013/05/15/top-10-engineering-college-teams-up-with-udacity-att-to-offer-6k-online-masters-degree-in-computer-science/ |
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| 19:01.25 | youtah | http://i.imgur.com/SmdiGL3.gif and then http://i.imgur.com/Xl8pjnl.gif |
| 19:01.53 | keldwud | yeah, it's pretty sexy |
| 19:02.09 | keldwud | some people were complaining about the 7k price tag and the need for a BS from a science related degree |
| 19:02.16 | keldwud | but for chrissakes, it's a real master's degree |
| 19:02.24 | keldwud | they require that stuff anyway |
| 19:02.32 | kylie_ | $7K is nothing. |
| 19:02.37 | keldwud | just because it's online doesn't mean that the pre-reqs should go away |
| 19:02.45 | kylie_ | I'm spending ~$30,000 for my BS. :| |
| 19:02.47 | keldwud | it's a master's from an accredited institution |
| 19:02.51 | keldwud | exactly |
| 19:03.03 | goozbach | I should get my BS |
| 19:03.09 | Migs | hahahaha |
| 19:03.15 | Migs | people will find any reason to complain |
| 19:03.15 | keldwud | catnewspaper.jpg |
| 19:03.21 | keldwud | catnewspaper.gif |
| 19:03.25 | keldwud | is what I meant :) |
| 19:03.26 | Migs | although you can get a masters for $6k from Western Governors |
| 19:03.38 | keldwud | is that you, Migs? Western Governors? |
| 19:03.40 | Migs | two of my co-workers got their MBAs that way |
| 19:03.41 | Migs | no |
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| 19:03.44 | keldwud | oh |
| 19:03.47 | keldwud | clicks on the link now |
| 19:03.48 | Yorokobi | I was enrolled in the Univ. of Phoenix MIS program when I was employed by the same. Being accredited and offering a Master's program doesn't mean it is necessarily worth getting. |
| 19:03.53 | Migs | actually, I work for Weber School District, and that other university, WEU, on the side |
| 19:04.06 | Migs | WEU's just a new startup I helped launched |
| 19:04.07 | keldwud | haha. nice metro interface :) |
| 19:04.11 | Migs | haha I know |
| 19:04.12 | keldwud | I actually like metro |
| 19:04.14 | keldwud | because xbox |
| 19:04.15 | Migs | actually it grew on me. |
| 19:04.16 | kylie_ | Yorokobi: Especially if you want ot do research |
| 19:04.25 | Migs | But I think the home page there is a little overdone. Like I said, we're redesigning it. |
| 19:04.31 | Migs | you should see our LMS, though |
| 19:04.37 | Migs | very Metro-y |
| 19:05.00 | Migs | http://courses.theweu.com/pages/courselist/index.php |
| 19:05.45 | keldwud | ooh, systems maintenance and management |
| 19:05.51 | keldwud | I want it |
| 19:05.54 | keldwud | nao |
| 19:05.55 | keldwud | :) |
| 19:06.23 | Yorokobi | will stick to his UofU BA and one tech certification. :) |
| 19:06.37 | kylie_ | Go Utes~. |
| 19:07.23 | keldwud | gah. I just want to see the course. I don't want to give my address |
| 19:08.32 | keldwud | am I filling out a job application? |
| 19:08.40 | keldwud | now it wants my educational history :( |
| 19:08.44 | Migs | that was on purpose |
| 19:08.49 | keldwud | which makes sense, you can get a better sense of your demographics |
| 19:08.51 | keldwud | I'm just impatient |
| 19:08.52 | Migs | to filter out the non-serious students |
| 19:08.56 | keldwud | ahh |
| 19:09.02 | keldwud | that way you have a higher completion rate |
| 19:09.24 | Migs | Though that's a good point. We should put up a sample course. |
| 19:09.45 | keldwud | that way we can see how the information flow is |
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| 19:09.55 | kylie_ | Maybe allow people to go through an intro portion of a course |
| 19:10.02 | kylie_ | That's slightly rigerous but not too much |
| 19:10.03 | Migs | there is an intro portion, actually |
| 19:10.05 | Migs | AFTER you register :) |
| 19:10.19 | kylie_ | Smart |
| 19:10.38 | keldwud | oh my |
| 19:10.43 | Migs | eh, I had mixed feelings about it |
| 19:10.44 | keldwud | yeah, now there is an assessment test |
| 19:10.49 | Migs | but it was an upper management decision |
| 19:10.50 | keldwud | again, normally I wouldn't mind |
| 19:10.53 | Migs | oh, the assessment test is cool |
| 19:10.57 | keldwud | but I'm in a hurry to see the site |
| 19:11.04 | Migs | I actually like that part...it tells you what your learning styles are |
| 19:11.22 | keldwud | gah, I can't scroll down to the test part |
| 19:11.26 | keldwud | it's stuck at the bottom of my screen |
| 19:11.36 | keldwud | it's viewable, but it's not in the center of my view :) |
| 19:15.11 | keldwud | gah... |
| 19:15.19 | keldwud | plods through the personality assessment test |
| 19:15.30 | keldwud | is this really just a ploy go gather personality profiles? |
| 19:15.36 | keldwud | there's really no content at the end of this, is there |
| 19:15.40 | keldwud | :-p |
| 19:17.14 | keldwud | I'm a cool green social engineer |
| 19:17.28 | keldwud | now GIMME MY SYSTEMS MAINTENANCE AND MANAGEMENT COURSE plz kthx :) |
| 19:17.58 | keldwud | ahh, I see. that's one of your revenue streams |
| 19:18.39 | keldwud | selling nathan church's book is the goal of the online university? |
| 19:19.41 | keldwud | ahh, and here are the marketing questions |
| 19:19.53 | keldwud | "how often at the movies?" and "what kind of shoes" |
| 19:19.55 | keldwud | etc |
| 19:20.06 | keldwud | Migs, I'm almost feeling scammed her. |
| 19:20.10 | keldwud | yellow flags |
| 19:20.36 | keldwud | especially since I can't skip any questions |
| 19:20.55 | keldwud | theweu.com now has a full demographic and personality on a fake person I made up |
| 19:22.23 | keldwud | :( 20 minutes later and I still haven't accessed a course. I'm at orientation now |
| 19:22.26 | keldwud | no speakers |
| 19:23.58 | keldwud | oh wow. I can't skip through the slides, either. |
| 19:24.03 | keldwud | I have to watch a news cast first |
| 19:24.17 | keldwud | I feel like I am experiencing a sales pitch |
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| 19:24.30 | keldwud | the first red flag is that I'm not allowed to proceed at my own pace or access information at will |
| 19:24.45 | keldwud | I am forced to sit through material and answer questions before prroceeding |
| 19:24.52 | keldwud | starting to become very unhappy |
| 19:25.17 | Migs | good grief, how long is this gif? |
| 19:25.39 | kylie_ | keldwud: Sounds like my online diversity class. |
| 19:27.39 | keldwud | kylie_: I haven't even gotten to the class part |
| 19:27.49 | keldwud | I'm still in the sales pitch part |
| 19:27.58 | kylie_ | :-\ |
| 19:28.08 | keldwud | ohshi- |
| 19:28.12 | keldwud | I can't even just fake answer anymore |
| 19:28.21 | keldwud | I have to answer the pop quiz on orientation properly |
| 19:28.58 | keldwud | hey Migs, what's the answer key? |
| 19:29.02 | Migs | I dunno |
| 19:29.06 | keldwud | I'm stuck |
| 19:29.08 | Migs | I've never even sat through the whole thing |
| 19:29.12 | keldwud | I must not be serious enough :( |
| 19:29.30 | Migs | We'll put up some sample courses. :) |
| 19:29.52 | Migs | like I said, it's still new. We just launched last February. |
| 19:31.03 | keldwud | oh wow |
| 19:31.04 | keldwud | five units? |
| 19:31.06 | keldwud | pouts |
| 19:31.15 | keldwud | tries to find a way around going through orientation |
| 19:31.27 | keldwud | sorry for sounding like I'm being critical |
| 19:31.35 | keldwud | I just figured unfiltered feedback would be valuable for you |
| 19:31.51 | keldwud | and now the only reason I am continuing is to provide you more feedback |
| 19:31.59 | keldwud | I've given up on even wanting to access the courseware |
| 19:32.11 | kylie_ | :( |
| 19:32.12 | keldwud | especially since udacity and coursera and edx are so much more user friendly |
| 19:32.44 | kylie_ | Udacity looks pretty good. |
| 19:32.56 | keldwud | "This course is currently unavailable, but it will be available soon! We are continually adding new courses. If you choose, you can be placed on a waiting list and be informed via email when the course becomes availabl" |
| 19:33.08 | keldwud | I have a feeling that I may see that on a majority of the courses |
| 19:33.15 | keldwud | feels like a bait and switch |
| 19:33.17 | Migs | hahaha |
| 19:33.19 | keldwud | no offense, Migs |
| 19:33.21 | keldwud | :) |
| 19:33.25 | Migs | no, you've actually voiced all the same complaints I've made |
| 19:33.32 | keldwud | it just has all the trappings of a sales pitch and bait and switch |
| 19:33.39 | keldwud | the courses are up there with descriptions purely for SEO |
| 19:33.42 | Migs | the problem is one of the founders was responsible for all these bait and switch tactics |
| 19:34.02 | keldwud | the goal of this website is to ride the coattails of real online universities and get click through rates from people who don't know better |
| 19:34.16 | keldwud | and use those click through rates to also increase their rankings and to sell that book |
| 19:34.17 | Migs | except there's no ads, and that course list page isn't being indexed |
| 19:34.24 | keldwud | ahh |
| 19:34.30 | keldwud | well I could be wrong in my assessment, then :) |
| 19:34.48 | keldwud | but it definitely does feel like it is trying to take advantage of the MOOC craze |
| 19:34.57 | Migs | I do think it's a perfect time for it |
| 19:35.00 | keldwud | it is |
| 19:35.26 | keldwud | do you have a list of courses that actually work? |
| 19:35.28 | Migs | and they're aggressively pursuing accreditation...it'll probably be a several years before regional is even plausible...but national might come sooner |
| 19:35.30 | keldwud | so that I don't waste all day clicking |
| 19:35.44 | Migs | the ones that are in white, at the top of the lists, and don't say "coming soon" |
| 19:35.49 | Migs | They should be pretty obvious |
| 19:35.54 | keldwud | because I strongly suspect that out of these hundred or so classes, they don't work |
| 19:36.03 | keldwud | oh I failed to read |
| 19:36.06 | keldwud | that was my bad, then |
| 19:36.15 | Migs | http://courses.theweu.com/pages/courseinfo/index.php?id=16 |
| 19:36.18 | keldwud | okay I see it now, the red banner :) |
| 19:36.19 | Migs | there's one |
| 19:36.45 | kylie_ | Are there math courses, Migs? |
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| 19:37.13 | Migs | yes, but not online yet :) |
| 19:37.18 | Migs | http://courses.theweu.com/pages/courselist/courses.php?stype=categories&cat=26&sch=°=&s= |
| 19:37.32 | Migs | er |
| 19:37.33 | Migs | http://courses.theweu.com/pages/courselist/courses.php?stype=categories&cat=26&sch=°=&s=math |
| 19:37.58 | Migs | and I just complained about some of the long descriptions an hour ago, so don't bother pointing that out |
| 19:38.08 | kylie_ | Graph theory? |
| 19:38.15 | keldwud | sooo... |
| 19:38.22 | Migs | frankly, I can't believe you've stuck on the site this long without having an actual intent to continue |
| 19:38.27 | keldwud | the masters they are offering are for courses that don't exist yet, is what I'm getting |
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| 19:38.36 | keldwud | Migs, yeah, I actually just quit :) |
| 19:38.47 | keldwud | once I realized all the CS courses were "coming soon" |
| 19:38.50 | Migs | hahaha |
| 19:38.52 | kylie_ | You could should get a historoy of math class, I think. |
| 19:39.03 | Migs | there's about 50 new courses coming on in 2 weeks |
| 19:39.34 | keldwud | but I can easily see how this will be able to pull people away from the other MOOCs |
| 19:39.46 | Migs | at least they should be. There's a team that's converting all the old topic-based courses into interactive SCORM-based ones, and they have it down efficiently enough that they're producing a new course every day. |
| 19:39.56 | keldwud | this is my tl;dr assessment of your university, Migs |
| 19:40.09 | keldwud | it's the ITT Tech / Pheonix University of MOOCs |
| 19:40.12 | Migs | By this time next year, I think it'll have MAJOR potential |
| 19:40.29 | Migs | assuming it's still around |
| 19:40.34 | keldwud | I'll check back next year to see if it has changed |
| 19:40.40 | keldwud | and if it has, I will change my tagline |
| 19:40.42 | Migs | The company's received massive funding, though |
| 19:40.46 | Migs | So I think it will |
| 19:41.05 | Migs | several angel investors jumped on board last year, and there's been a few successful VC rounds |
| 19:41.30 | keldwud | it looks to me kind of like a product or movie or website that somebody makes because something else just like it is making a lot of money |
| 19:41.35 | keldwud | so then they sell you a knock-off |
| 19:41.41 | Migs | and right now we're forming some corporate partnerships to sponsor their ads |
| 19:41.59 | Migs | kind of...except you don't have to buy anything |
| 19:42.08 | keldwud | true |
| 19:42.09 | Migs | the intent is that it will always be 100% free |
| 19:42.16 | Migs | obviously there's extra products we TRY to sell you |
| 19:42.24 | keldwud | yeah, I was definitely being sold to |
| 19:42.26 | Migs | like your learning assessment profile, merchandise... |
| 19:42.29 | Migs | other crap |
| 19:42.32 | keldwud | but I'm hyperaware of sales pitches |
| 19:42.34 | Migs | but dude...FREE degrees. |
| 19:42.37 | keldwud | lol |
| 19:42.48 | Migs | surely salse pitches can be tolerated |
| 19:42.55 | keldwud | that will work for the majority of the population who knows nothing about moocs |
| 19:42.59 | Migs | we're going to add occasional marketing surveys in there as well that students will take |
| 19:43.06 | keldwud | just like people go to Phoenix University and ITT Tech |
| 19:43.15 | keldwud | those are both highly successful companies |
| 19:43.21 | Migs | actually, right now the majority of our user base are from non-U.S. countries |
| 19:43.24 | keldwud | maybe not successful in educating people, but still. |
| 19:43.56 | Migs | a lot of third world users. We've received numerous emails from people just GRATEFUL for the chance. They don't care about accreditation status or anything like that. |
| 19:44.02 | Migs | And nobody in their country does either |
| 19:44.49 | Migs | It just shows that they're (a) working toward a degree from an American university, and (b) know English. That's enough for any job boost in many third world places. |
| 19:45.54 | keldwud | I'm on the defense now, any further illustrations of the positive traits of the university will probably make me more entrenched in my perception |
| 19:46.05 | Migs | I'm just speaking facts now |
| 19:47.05 | Migs | "facts" |
| 19:48.27 | Migs | http://www.thefiscaltimes.com/Media/Slideshow/2012/08/09/The-10-Worst-Hotels-in-America.aspx?index=1 |
| 19:48.37 | kylie_ | EUGH |
| 19:58.49 | youtah | PLEASE tell me that the Ramada in Laramie WYO is on there |
| 19:59.09 | youtah | my review was so bad, along with photos, on Trip Advisor, that they actually removed my review. |
| 19:59.31 | kylie_ | Hahahaha, do you have a copy of said review? |
| 19:59.37 | youtah | I dont |
| 19:59.59 | youtah | and I am pissed. At the time, I had "Ctrl A, Ctrl C"d before I submitted |
| 20:00.24 | youtah | and then when I saw it go through, I thought... ah, okay good. And let it slowly disappear |
| 20:00.40 | youtah | Thinking, that since it had been saved, that it would stay there |
| 20:01.58 | Migs | why on earth would they remove a review? |
| 20:02.40 | Migs | maybe Ramada is a significant source of funding for them |
| 20:02.49 | youtah | that's what I am thinking |
| 20:04.23 | youtah | TL;DR: it involved blood on the wall, dangerous area, hallways were plywood with tin, framed in using 2x4's between cynderblock buildings, ultra dirty bathroom, railroad (12 of them) tracks with in 40' of the hotel, Broken window, No AC/Heater and their "Internet" was down |
| 20:05.07 | keldwud | that's interesting to know that I'm not the only one who selects all and copies before submitting forms |
| 20:05.13 | keldwud | I thought I was just being OCD |
| 20:05.24 | youtah | been burnt too many times to not do it |
| 20:05.31 | youtah | at least it seemed like 40'. The trains might as well have run through my room. |
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| 20:59.04 | shalkie | youtah: I am sorry, I have seen much worse reviews. |
| 21:00.09 | Migs | keldwud: I do it too |
| 21:07.16 | Yorokobi | Splunk Live! Thursday, 6 June at the downtown Hilton. |
| 21:10.49 | keldwud | so instead of throwing my laptop through a window, how the hell do I disconnect from the unidentified network? |
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| 21:11.01 | youtah | OS? |
| 21:11.06 | keldwud | windows :( |
| 21:11.17 | Yorokobi | defenestration |
| 21:11.29 | youtah | You should be able to go into the network manager |
| 21:11.31 | keldwud | I've tried attacking it through windows firewall settings and properties, I've tried deleting the registry key (no permission), I've tried getting at it through network and sharing |
| 21:11.38 | youtah | and removed it from the remembered networks |
| 21:11.39 | keldwud | *should* be able to |
| 21:11.45 | keldwud | it's not a network |
| 21:11.49 | keldwud | I've removed all networks |
| 21:11.55 | keldwud | it's an adapter |
| 21:12.00 | keldwud | that virtualbox left |
| 21:12.05 | keldwud | and it's undeletable |
| 21:12.05 | youtah | Ahhhhhh |
| 21:12.06 | keldwud | :( |
| 21:12.07 | youtah | ROFL |
| 21:12.16 | youtah | I had the exact same thing when I connected to the UofU |
| 21:12.27 | keldwud | so I'm stuck in the registry not knowing how to elevate to the proper permissions |
| 21:12.30 | youtah | and I was using a VPN client, that did the same thing |
| 21:12.34 | keldwud | I have domain admin permissions and local admin |
| 21:12.45 | keldwud | it's normally never a problem |
| 21:12.52 | keldwud | because it doesn't interfere with regular networking |
| 21:12.58 | keldwud | except when I want to install windows remote management |
| 21:13.08 | keldwud | then it tells me to GTFO of the public network and onto a more secure one |
| 21:13.10 | keldwud | like work or domain |
| 21:13.14 | keldwud | which I *am* connected to |
| 21:13.31 | keldwud | but the unidentified network is marked in the public profile and is "connected" |
| 21:13.42 | keldwud | I'm losing my mind :( how did your friend resolve it? |
| 21:21.08 | keldwud | resetting tcp/ip stack didn't resolve either |
| 21:22.15 | youtah | Yeah, so my friend sent me this as a reply to a question I answered ... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0MekmHll3eM |
| 21:22.53 | youtah | Something I am sure harleypig will appreciate |
| 21:23.29 | youtah | I'm not sure if I should laugh or cry |
| 21:23.43 | Jayce-work | dafrak? |
| 21:23.50 | youtah | ROFL |
| 21:23.58 | youtah | Yes |
| 21:25.51 | harleypig | I LOVE IT! |
| 21:26.58 | youtah | wasn't it magmanificent ? |
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| 21:36.12 | Jayce-work | i lava'd it |
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| 22:36.08 | youtah | is it Friday? |
| 23:01.28 | JalenJade | I have no idea. I just know 11 days until Disneyland |
| 23:02.58 | JalenJade | and yes, I was just there |
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| 23:04.03 | youtah | http://www.cnn.com/2013/05/15/us/disney-skipping-lines/index.html?hpt=hp_t5 |
| 23:04.37 | youtah | You post pix anywhere JalenJade ? |
| 23:04.37 | JalenJade | Yeah, let me tell you about that. those lines that those people are getting into are generally slower than the regular lines because there are 1 or 2 "accessible" ride vehicles per ride |
| 23:04.50 | JalenJade | so I don't care about that at all because those people are idiots |
| 23:05.05 | JalenJade | I will be after I finish sorting them |
| 23:05.13 | youtah | what about the bracelets |
| 23:05.19 | youtah | make sure to read the whole article |
| 23:05.43 | youtah | and people hiring handicap people to come with them to Disneyland |
| 23:06.14 | JalenJade | oh this is a response thing |
| 23:06.22 | youtah | yeah |
| 23:06.31 | youtah | I thought it was interesting. I personally don't care either way |
| 23:06.33 | JalenJade | I just got tire of seeing the reports about it everywhere |
| 23:06.49 | youtah | Although, when we have gone, we've always paid for the FastPass |
| 23:06.59 | JalenJade | how do you pay for a free thing? |
| 23:07.37 | youtah | Not the ticket thing |
| 23:07.55 | youtah | (reading online, it looks like they've changed it) |
| 23:08.17 | JalenJade | the magic band thing is old news to me. My opinion on it is "Great" |
| 23:08.32 | JalenJade | if I can get one when I go interview at WDW next month I sure as hell will |
| 23:08.45 | youtah | Maybe what we had wasn't called a fastpass, maybe it was something else. |
| 23:09.00 | JalenJade | universal sells a "fast pass" thing |
| 23:09.00 | youtah | is reading up on it right now |
| 23:09.13 | youtah | Maybe that is it. Granted, it has been about a decade since I have been |
| 23:09.14 | JalenJade | disney has always included fast pass with your park admission |
| 23:09.34 | JalenJade | I have over 3300 pictures to go through |
| 23:09.37 | youtah | WHOA |
| 23:10.08 | youtah | Well, I am going to run up BCC and check out the snow at Silver Lake |
| 23:10.36 | JalenJade | I'm tired of snow. and of 100 degree temps |
| 23:10.37 | JalenJade | heh |
| 23:10.43 | youtah | ROFl |
| 23:10.44 | youtah | L |
| 23:11.49 | dremex | youtah, check guardsmans pass too |
| 23:13.31 | Gate_ | Anyone know of anyone looking for app/web development work? (and willing to work with contractors :) ) |
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| 23:14.24 | Gate | gah, stupid network problems changing my nick |
| 23:15.18 | youtah | will do dremex |
| 23:15.32 | youtah | Gate, yes |
| 23:15.45 | youtah | I am trying to think of who just recently asked me if I knew some mobile app developers |
| 23:15.58 | Gate | youtah: cool, would appreciate it :D |
| 23:16.01 | youtah | k |
| 23:16.15 | youtah | PM me an email address or something I can forward |
| 23:16.41 | youtah | I get asked semi regularly if I do mobile apps, and I am constantly telling people I dont know anyone |
| 23:16.53 | Gate | Well stop it, you do ;) |
| 23:16.58 | youtah | lol |
| 23:17.36 | Gate | I help run a small shop in St. George, Rocketmade |
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| 23:21.41 | JalenJade | ugh I'm pretty sure my RAM is used up |
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