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| 17:56.24 | keldwud | any sysdamins in the room? I have a general question about network management and design |
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| 18:13.50 | unum | keldwud: what's your question? |
| 18:15.23 | keldwud | was wondering about how others provision new machines in a mixed *nix and windows environment (windows DNS) so that each new host registers in DNS so that if I were to rDNS, I could generate IP addresses mapped to hostnames |
| 18:15.57 | keldwud | right now, I'm pretty sure that I will just be manually adding records for all of my current machines, but I want to create a policy of doing it right moving forward |
| 18:16.12 | keldwud | the *nix machines are all servers, therefore static |
| 18:17.07 | unum | http://theonion.github.io/blog/2013/05/08/how-the-syrian-electronic-army-hacked-the-onion/ |
| 18:17.15 | unum | sorry that had nothing to do with your question |
| 18:17.58 | unum | we doing something like loc123.loc.company.com |
| 18:18.12 | unum | is that the question or is about how you get bind to do that? |
| 18:22.10 | keldwud | yeah, intranet, not public facing. I want to know how people add a new linux machine with static address (no dhcp) and get it mapped / registered to windows DNS |
| 18:22.29 | keldwud | so like, herp.derp.local |
| 18:22.50 | keldwud | like, what the standard practices are |
| 18:23.11 | unum | I wouldn't know anything what so ever about windows dns |
| 18:23.17 | unum | I'm not ever sure what you're talking about |
| 18:23.28 | unum | is a dns server that comes preinstalled on windows server? |
| 18:25.17 | keldwud | yeah, my lack of experience in this areae makes it difficult to describe properly :) |
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| 18:27.15 | unum | s/ever/even |
| 18:27.22 | unum | that came across much harsher than I meant |
| 18:27.30 | unum | I was just trying to say I know nothing about windows |
| 18:27.35 | keldwud | :) |
| 18:27.43 | unum | I could tell you a way to do this with powerdns |
| 18:28.03 | keldwud | yeah, I'm responsible for maintaining but not in charge of designing my infrastructure |
| 18:28.07 | keldwud | so I gotta work with what I've got |
| 18:28.11 | unum | we just have a static dns entry for each possible ip on our network |
| 18:28.33 | keldwud | how do you mean? |
| 18:28.51 | keldwud | so you have a list of 0/24 hostnames? |
| 18:29.09 | unum | yes |
| 18:29.24 | keldwud | hmm.. |
| 18:29.42 | unum | assuming that you mean 255 host names |
| 18:29.58 | unum | I don't know how it was built may have been a script |
| 18:30.01 | unum | it predates my employment |
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| 18:35.30 | keldwud | that's what I'm hoping to find. people who have designed / built such things :) |
| 18:35.40 | Migs | http://abstrusegoose.com/507 |
| 18:38.13 | fungus | keldwud, Windows DNS supports dynamic updates. you can add these DNS changes into your machine deployment scripts quite easily. |
| 18:38.34 | keldwud | fungus: that's about what I was thinking. |
| 18:39.17 | keldwud | so once I figure out how to get one of my current machines to register in dns with a dynamic update, I can just add that to my provisioning process, I would assume |
| 18:39.33 | fungus | That, and it's a lot easier to just use "nsupdate" locally for making changes, than using a windows machine to navigate through a GUI. |
| 18:40.34 | fungus | Generally you don't have the machine "register" itself. Your provisioning machine/script will add the DNS records. |
| 18:40.45 | keldwud | ooho |
| 18:40.47 | keldwud | *oooh |
| 18:40.48 | keldwud | okay |
| 18:41.15 | keldwud | so after a new machine comes online, then my process just updates the DNS records. I see. |
| 18:41.36 | keldwud | time to learn some powershell |
| 18:43.17 | fungus | No, just add the records in your initial provisioning, before the new machine comes online. |
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| 19:03.38 | youtah | ROFL @ comment "He wore it better" http://imgur.com/gallery/p5y2i8e |
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| 19:55.53 | Migs | Never, ever, ever order from 1-800 FLOWERS. |
| 19:55.58 | Migs | My wife's Mother's Day flowers never arrived. I used them last Valentine's, too...and they never arrived then either. |
| 19:56.03 | Migs | I was willing to forgive and forget and give them another chance. But they blew it. |
| 20:02.55 | Q_Continuum | Call and complain? |
| 20:03.08 | levi | It is entirely possible to have your DHCP server update your DNS server with names based on the clienid provided by the DHCP-booting machines. |
| 20:04.30 | Q_Continuum | levi: Yes it is, and could be useful if you're managing say, a hodge-podge of machines for testing that you wouldn't want the overhead of manually creating/nuking those entries. |
| 20:07.15 | eightyeight | levi: yes. dnsmasq makes it trivial. possible with isc dhcp and isc bind, as well |
| 20:10.02 | levi | I wrote my own DHCP/DNS proof-of-concept implementation for a project at work due to licensing issues. The only tricky part (at least of the bits I actually implemented) was DNS name compression. |
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| 20:27.46 | unum | I hate writing tests |
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| 20:41.15 | findlay | I hate grading tests |
| 20:41.24 | Migs | outsource the grading |
| 20:41.38 | keldwud | I grade tests and homeworks for cheap |
| 20:41.39 | keldwud | :) |
| 20:41.43 | Migs | https://chronicle.com/article/Outsourced-Grading-Comes-to/64954/ |
| 20:41.54 | Migs | outsourced paper grading is a thriving business |
| 20:42.08 | keldwud | I jumped on the chance to grade programming homework because it exposed me to so much more code |
| 20:42.21 | Migs | horribly written code, maybe |
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| 20:44.32 | unum | well I hate writing and grading tests to |
| 20:44.42 | unum | but I was refering to test an app |
| 20:55.13 | jlp_work | http://dbareactions.tumblr.com/post/50337841332?utm_source=feedly |
| 20:55.44 | youtah | That is just amazing. And creeps me out so badly. |
| 20:57.11 | jlp_work | http://devopsreactions.tumblr.com/post/50078718834?utm_source=feedly |
| 21:04.40 | youtah | Migs, too bad you didnt eat here on Mothers Day http://imgur.com/gallery/T7EKMUO |
| 21:05.24 | Q_Continuum | Hm. I have 436 tabs open on Firefox at work. |
| 21:06.00 | Q_Continuum | Need more many-tab management tools... |
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| 21:09.45 | fadein | TIL that on my dd-wrt, dnsmasq listens on ALL interfaces by default |
| 21:10.00 | Q_Continuum | o.0 |
| 21:10.46 | fadein | thanks to the DDoS'ers hating on directedat.asia for pointing that out |
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| 22:02.50 | findlay | try grading physics tests |
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