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| 01:02.37 | spangborn | I guess I didn't have ZNC in my startup. |
| 01:02.38 | spangborn | Heh. |
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| 03:13.09 | jima | rsimpkins: would it be mean-spirited to say i have 1.8ms latency and 100mbit throughput from home to work? :-D |
| 03:17.09 | supaplex | a cot in your cube huh? |
| 03:18.11 | Q_Continuum | cube connection is slower >.< |
| 03:23.09 | supaplex | 1.8ms RTT puts you within 167 miles end to end. (pure speed of light). |
| 03:24.57 | jima | yeah, the cube is slumming. 40mbit and a little higher latency, iirc. |
| 03:26.18 | Q_Continuum | and we don't own that network either. |
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| 14:53.39 | goozbach | Jayce^: http://www.sheldoncomics.com/ |
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| 17:15.36 | shalkie | Is that the "big" news from Provo? |
| 17:15.45 | shalkie | Depeche Mode has a new Album and is on tour again. |
| 17:16.03 | shalkie | They apparently aren't coming to SLC> |
| 17:16.11 | shalkie | s/>/./ |
| 17:16.25 | shalkie | starts looking at places to go for the concert. |
| 17:20.47 | Q_Continuum | Or is the big news that some store will now be open on Sundays? |
| 17:20.51 | rsimpkins | jima: No, that's not mean. That is awesome though. |
| 17:20.53 | Q_Continuum | has no clue |
| 17:20.57 | jsmith | goozbach: Wanna move to Phoenix and work for me? |
| 17:40.38 | jima | supaplex: oh, i checked, btw: 1.8ms average from home, 2.7ms average from my cube. :-| |
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| 17:44.46 | Jayce^ | well, boston arrest imminent.. hopefully they have the right person this time :/ |
| 17:45.12 | Jayce^ | still, announcing that, you've got to wonder if it really is the person, if they start running |
| 17:45.20 | jima | internal hosts are even worse, 2.6ms and 4.1ms, respectively. and the path from my cube uses private networks, not vpn. |
| 17:45.39 | jima | Jayce^: hmm. we'll see, i guess. |
| 18:35.34 | goozbach | jsmith: maybe |
| 18:35.40 | goozbach | but PHX is soo hot! |
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| 18:37.04 | tensai | goozbach: more so than Georgia? |
| 18:39.46 | goozbach | tensai: yeah |
| 18:40.10 | jsmith | tensai: You wanna move to PHX? I'd hire you too... |
| 18:40.31 | jsmith | needs a new sys-admin and a new telephony guy in our Tempe office |
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| 19:38.55 | Snoggums | Oooh, tech announcement in Provo? |
| 19:39.06 | fadein | we're banning 'epic' |
| 19:39.07 | neybar_work | yeah... it's going to be epic |
| 19:39.19 | Snoggums | Haha, watching it now. |
| 19:39.24 | fadein | drumroll, pleas |
| 19:39.43 | fadein | Provo has a band? |
| 19:39.50 | Snoggums | The band is awol lol |
| 19:40.07 | fadein | google fiber |
| 19:40.12 | findlay | sure |
| 19:40.16 | Snoggums | Called it |
| 19:40.17 | fadein | part of a nutritionally-balanced diet |
| 19:40.27 | mheath | grrr |
| 19:40.30 | mheath | I hate you Provo |
| 19:40.32 | mheath | so jealous |
| 19:40.55 | neybar_work | it's ok, Google will probably let Provo administer it, so don't be jealous. |
| 19:40.59 | Snoggums | Hopefully it'll bring costs of Comcast down... |
| 19:41.19 | findlay | provo already gots iprovo? |
| 19:41.35 | findlay | broadwaive? or something? |
| 19:41.37 | mheath | and....there goes the last death throws of Utopia. |
| 19:42.17 | jima | whaaaaaa |
| 19:42.27 | Snoggums | So why Provo, then? |
| 19:42.31 | findlay | so, what's the announcement? |
| 19:42.33 | jima | please tell me i just parsed something wrong. |
| 19:42.41 | Snoggums | findlay: Google Fiber in Provo |
| 19:42.46 | findlay | Snoggums: no way |
| 19:42.54 | Snoggums | Yeah. |
| 19:42.58 | findlay | teh link? |
| 19:43.05 | Snoggums | iProvo/Veracity has tough competition now. |
| 19:43.14 | Snoggums | Watched the announcement live... |
| 19:43.18 | Snoggums | let's see if there are any links yet |
| 19:43.23 | mheath | No real link now. Kutv had a stream to the live announcement by the major |
| 19:43.24 | mheath | *mayor |
| 19:43.26 | findlay | iprovo sold a long time ago to broadwaive |
| 19:43.30 | mheath | He literally announced it...3 minutes ago |
| 19:43.32 | Snoggums | ahh |
| 19:44.02 | findlay | I was living in provo when it happened |
| 19:44.05 | mheath | pashdown has to not be too happy :( |
| 19:44.46 | findlay | never really did like veracity and they sabotaged the network when it sold |
| 19:44.51 | mheath | I didn't follow the history, but according to wikipedia he wasn't too happy with the RFP process that eventually lead to this announcement |
| 19:44.55 | findlay | at least that's what the broadwaive guy tole me |
| 19:45.41 | findlay | iprovo's always been kind of a joke on how the city managed it |
| 19:45.54 | findlay | then they just up and sold it without warning |
| 19:46.35 | fadein | is iOmega still a thing? |
| 19:46.39 | mheath | I'm curious now about the details. How much of this is just Google management, and how much of it is new Google Infrastructure? |
| 19:46.42 | findlay | haha |
| 19:46.49 | findlay | proprietary disk drives |
| 19:47.09 | fadein | seems like a lot of the tech companies he mentioned are has-beens |
| 19:47.31 | mheath | i - Omega is a thing if you study waves! |
| 19:47.33 | mheath | ;D |
| 19:47.44 | fadein | I haven't heard about WordPerfect, Novel, iOmega in a good way since the 90's |
| 19:47.58 | mheath | Novell is still a thing... |
| 19:47.59 | findlay | e^{i(k*x - omega*t)} |
| 19:48.51 | mheath | findlay: I forget the context, but there was one point where we were working wiht a wave equation in a form such that the instructor would frequently verbalize "i omega" while lecturing |
| 19:48.58 | findlay | novell always seems to not be able to prevent itself from making things bad for itself |
| 19:49.25 | mheath | I'm such a geek that I somehow connected a wave mathematics lecture with zip drives |
| 19:49.48 | findlay | an imaginary exponent just means a periodic function, whereas a real exponent is hyperbolic |
| 19:50.10 | mheath | (The sadder thing is that I actually USED a zip drive recently...) |
| 19:50.26 | findlay | jaz drive |
| 19:51.02 | mheath | We have an archaically old control computer for our AFM microscope |
| 19:51.17 | findlay | 'take ur hd platter out of it's hermetic clean room, drop it into a cartrige and throw it into ur bag', yeah |
| 19:51.45 | findlay | I remember being amazed at how often floppy disks got data corruption |
| 19:52.07 | mheath | ugh, have you ever tried to do a 40+ floppy disk Linux install? |
| 19:52.18 | mheath | The corruption rate of floppy disks will drive you crazy |
| 19:52.39 | mheath | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SuperDisk |
| 19:52.39 | Q_Continuum | I had a onsite tech once store-use a box of floppies at Target, took 5 disks to get a good one. |
| 19:52.42 | mheath | Anyone remember those? |
| 19:52.48 | Q_Continuum | Yes |
| 19:52.53 | Snoggums | Apparently if this deal goes, iProvo will be bought out by Google. |
| 19:52.59 | Q_Continuum | Yeah |
| 19:53.17 | findlay | https://fiber.google.com/cities/provo/ |
| 19:53.18 | mheath | My dad has a box of those sitting around still. I got a kick out of the marketing on the box |
| 19:53.27 | mheath | Technology of the Future, Technology that is Here to Stay, etc |
| 19:53.38 | findlay | so, google has none of the infrastructure layout cost, but all the publicity |
| 19:54.10 | Q_Continuum | They're going to "finish" the install that was apparently not quite finished? |
| 19:54.20 | mheath | And upgrade the tech to gigabit speeds |
| 19:54.21 | Q_Continuum | So some build-out cost, but not from-scratch yeah |
| 19:54.35 | mheath | I think they started building iProvo back in the 90's, didn't they? |
| 19:54.49 | mheath | Before gigabit stuff even existed for that type of application |
| 19:56.08 | mheath | If the deal is approved and the acquisition closes, we’d offer our Free Internet service (5 Mbps speeds), to every home along the existing Provo network, for a $30 activation fee (plus applicable taxes) and no monthly charge for at least 7 years |
| 19:56.13 | mheath | so jealous |
| 19:56.18 | findlay | imagines average BYU student reaction to blessed fibre: "I'm a mac/M$ fanboi, so I'm sticking with comcast" |
| 19:56.45 | Q_Continuum | mheath: Be jealous of the most successful ad company in the history of the world having all your traffic? |
| 19:56.48 | Q_Continuum | No thanks. |
| 19:56.50 | findlay | because, basically that's what I got when trying to evangelize iProvo (even to my own roomates!) |
| 19:56.50 | fadein | wow, wikipedia is already updated |
| 19:57.10 | findlay | although eventually, I prevailed |
| 19:57.12 | Snoggums | Q_Continuum: Paranoid, much? :P |
| 19:57.21 | mheath | Q_Continuum: There's strict FCC rules that make Google Fiber essentially a completely different entity than Google the Advertisement Company |
| 19:57.23 | findlay | and then I seeded every gentoo torrent for a week in celebration |
| 19:58.08 | findlay | agrees with Q_Continuum |
| 19:58.17 | findlay | I don't trust google |
| 19:58.39 | Snoggums | Agreed. |
| 19:58.53 | mheath | Granted, I'm moving out of Utah in 3 weeks, so I don't really have a reason to be jealous of Provo more than any other Google Fiber place |
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| 19:59.15 | mheath | Military bases have horrible telecommunications offerings. Always overlooked, last to be upgraded. |
| 19:59.19 | Snoggums | mheath: Congrats |
| 19:59.37 | mheath | Snoggums: hah |
| 19:59.40 | findlay | in 3 weeks, mheath's ire generalizes away from UT |
| 20:00.08 | mheath | haha. I love Utah. I left before, and came back |
| 20:00.11 | Migs | Google is going to index the crap out of everyone's Internet activity |
| 20:00.22 | Migs | I think everyone knows this by now |
| 20:00.32 | mheath | Though I'll be away for a long while this time |
| 20:00.37 | findlay | and give it to the gubermant! |
| 20:00.40 | neybar_work | then they'll shut it down. *cough* Reader *cough* |
| 20:00.42 | findlay | in bluffdale! |
| 20:01.18 | Q_Continuum | mheath: What strict FCC rules? Common Carrier? ISPs do everything they can to look and quack like one to consumers, but avoid being classified as such. |
| 20:01.20 | findlay | they got all the indexing they could out of reader, so they eol-ed it |
| 20:01.49 | Q_Continuum | No, they came out with Google+ which causes even more indexing with the 'social features' so they push folks there. |
| 20:02.07 | findlay | next for provo: google supermarket |
| 20:02.24 | Q_Continuum | More important than the Google Fiber announcement (Funny, Google is pushing for this to pass, and makes this announcement today): https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2013/04/cispa-goes-floor-vote-privacy-amendments-blocked |
| 20:02.28 | neybar_work | meh. google+ is teh suck. |
| 20:02.31 | findlay | wear ur google glasses while u ride in ur google ride to the googlemart |
| 20:02.47 | findlay | Q_Continuum: exactly |
| 20:03.10 | mheath | Considering that the provo city council hasn't even voted on this, I'm curious about the ethics of the Mayor basically holding a giant Google Advertisement press conference |
| 20:03.15 | Snoggums | Q_Continuum: Which ISP do you trust the most? :x |
| 20:03.18 | findlay | the Ministry of Information forbodes on the hick bluffs to the north |
| 20:03.34 | Q_Continuum | Snoggums: I'm on Xmission and they're pretty pro-privacy and freedoms :-D |
| 20:03.39 | Snoggums | mheath: I wouldn't be surprised if the vote was just a formality. |
| 20:03.39 | findlay | mheath: that's how it went down last time |
| 20:04.02 | mheath | Well even if the vote is a formality... |
| 20:04.08 | Snoggums | Q_Continuum: Comcast here, I feel slightly paranoid and for some reason Tor/SSL is the only thing that makes me feel better. :| |
| 20:04.27 | mheath | We haven't voted on this, or approved it, but OMG Google is our savior and is awesome and is going to save us all, praise Google |
| 20:04.28 | findlay | how could feclkess council members of a rural city turn down the publicity and spectacle of "Google"? |
| 20:04.47 | Snoggums | Well, Utah County is becoming a bit of a tech hub. |
| 20:04.49 | findlay | Snoggums: yeah |
| 20:04.57 | Q_Continuum | mheath: Google buying it from them solves a huge financial headache |
| 20:05.17 | findlay | it all goes back to Ray Noorda, I think |
| 20:05.43 | mheath | Q_Continuum: Yes, but this was supposed to be an impartial process that started with a RFP |
| 20:05.47 | findlay | because provons don't know what's good for them |
| 20:06.08 | mheath | Now you have the Government endorsing one private business before the impartial process and bid has even been completed |
| 20:06.17 | findlay | nobody signed up for amazing fibers |
| 20:06.26 | pashdown | you think provo would put out an RFP after all it's done in relation to iprovo? |
| 20:06.58 | pashdown | transparency has not been their forte |
| 20:07.09 | findlay | mheath: so naive :) |
| 20:07.16 | jima | in reality iprovo failed because the internet is for porn. |
| 20:07.26 | mheath | Its like the Secretary of Defense standing up and announcing "We're going to buy a million of these awesome new Boeing airplanes! They're perfect and great, and will solve all our problems....Now all we need is for Congress to approve it." |
| 20:07.36 | Q_Continuum | Stealth-announcing the third gFiber city on the same day CISPA goes to the senate floor, something BigG wants to pass...Yeah, this isn't just coincidence. |
| 20:07.41 | findlay | mheath: and that didn't happen? |
| 20:07.46 | findlay | f-22/35? |
| 20:07.50 | mheath | Simply making the announcement skews the entire process and unfairly favors one private entity |
| 20:07.55 | Snoggums | Maybe this has something to do with the NSA building. :| |
| 20:08.00 | Q_Continuum | Snoggums: Probably |
| 20:08.10 | mheath | findlay: I'm not saying it doesn't happen, just that it SHOULDN'T, and it's immoral when it does |
| 20:08.26 | Q_Continuum | Justifies Google running fiber to the area and stacking content servers nearby. |
| 20:08.26 | findlay | IM IN UR PACKETS CORRELATINGUR TRAFFICS |
| 20:08.44 | findlay | it's all part of the CISPA conspiracy! |
| 20:09.14 | mheath | findlay: Also, to be fair, the F-22 isn't a fair comparison. There was some BS favoritism there, but there was a competetitive bid process spanning 2 decades involved as well |
| 20:10.41 | mheath | Snoggums: That NSA building has nothing to do with domestic traffic |
| 20:10.47 | findlay | yeah, well, it's all part of the show we call 'government' |
| 20:10.53 | Snoggums | mheath: I was just being silly. |
| 20:10.54 | findlay | mheath: sure |
| 20:11.07 | mheath | I'm not saying the NSA never touches domestic traffic |
| 20:11.14 | pashdown | mheath where did you get that idea? |
| 20:11.35 | mheath | Just thats not the purpose of this facility |
| 20:11.37 | pashdown | NSA whistleblower said they're archiving all SMTP traffic they can intercept |
| 20:11.40 | findlay | you don't build a 2 yottabyte hard drive and discriminately weed out the domestic bits |
| 20:11.58 | mheath | pashdown: I'm talking specifically of the Utah Data Center project at camp williams, not the NSA in general |
| 20:12.07 | pashdown | i'd be surprised if you knew the purpose because i took a tour and they wouldn't tell me |
| 20:12.22 | Q_Continuum | ^ |
| 20:12.28 | findlay | thinks mheath has endorsed some kind of intramilitary propaganda |
| 20:12.35 | Q_Continuum | didn't take a tour, but the NSA isn't exactly known for telling the truth |
| 20:12.39 | mheath | pashdown: The head of the NSA has specifically discussed the purpose multiple times in public speeches |
| 20:12.45 | findlay | haha |
| 20:12.49 | findlay | sure |
| 20:12.50 | Q_Continuum | hahahahahahahaha |
| 20:13.09 | findlay | I'm sure Hatch would say the same thing |
| 20:14.20 | pashdown | mheath: citation? |
| 20:14.25 | findlay | and then blow up your computer |
| 20:14.27 | findlay | remotely |
| 20:14.44 | findlay | with his iBlowupurcompy app |
| 20:14.59 | fadein | or with a drone launched from Hill AFB |
| 20:15.02 | cwj | just when i thought i couldn't hate provo any more |
| 20:15.09 | mheath | pashdown: http://news.yahoo.com/u-agency-denies-data-center-monitor-citizens-emails-004448507.html |
| 20:15.13 | mheath | and many others |
| 20:15.37 | fadein | I know one thing this iProvo deal will do: inundate Provo residents with Comcast marketing |
| 20:15.42 | findlay | invokes not just nazi, but soviet propaganda |
| 20:15.47 | mheath | Look, I'm not naive, and I'm not saying that the NSA doesn't monitor anything domestic or engage in questionable practices |
| 20:15.58 | fadein | "We've updated ur speeds & you can bundle your TV and phone for the first 6 months!" |
| 20:16.37 | findlay | comcast and qwest could defeat UTOPIA, but their brands have nothing on google |
| 20:16.47 | mheath | I'm just saying I don't consider it realistic with our governments structure that an entire multi-billion-dollar facility was entirely built and financed based on a completely fradulent and illegal mission that everyone at every level of the government denies |
| 20:17.09 | Q_Continuum | mheath: The NSA went unknown for decades. |
| 20:17.18 | pashdown | "illegally eavesdropping and monitoring" is completely different from "storing" |
| 20:17.38 | mheath | you kind of have to eavesdrop and monitor to have something to store |
| 20:17.49 | pashdown | no you don't. you can just store *. |
| 20:17.54 | pashdown | automatically index it. |
| 20:17.59 | pashdown | then read it when you are person of interest. |
| 20:18.06 | cwj | "its perfectly legal, according to our secret interpretation of the law" |
| 20:18.35 | findlay | mheath: it has been well known for at least 8 years that the NSA already wholesale intercepts and monitors domestic communication |
| 20:18.41 | pashdown | http://www.wired.com/science/discoveries/news/2006/04/70619 |
| 20:19.25 | pashdown | i do know that bluffdale is a lights out facility, which makes me think it is not R&D they're doing, but just a big fat hard drive. |
| 20:20.02 | mheath | *shrug*. |
| 20:20.09 | Q_Continuum | NSA builds world's biggest NAS, Google announces Fiber run to neighboring city. Those are a little coincidential. |
| 20:20.40 | findlay | I understand that if you're in some sort of military position that you must maintain some kind of kafka-themed solidarity to appease the brass |
| 20:20.44 | fadein | well, NSA *is* an acronym for "NAS" |
| 20:20.56 | findlay | ~rot13 NSA |
| 20:20.56 | ibot | AFN |
| 20:21.00 | findlay | ! |
| 20:21.05 | findlay | or something |
| 20:21.27 | mheath | Yes, the government wiretaps stuff, and yes thats public knowledge |
| 20:21.29 | mheath | But thats the POINT |
| 20:21.39 | mheath | It's OFFICIALLY, PUBLIC KNOWLEDGE that that is done |
| 20:21.53 | findlay | and it's OFFICIALLY UNCONSTITUTIONAL |
| 20:21.54 | fadein | mheath: that they're completely forthcoming and open about when/where/why/how they do it? |
| 20:22.03 | mheath | You don't finance and build an entire multi-billion dollar facility and completely lie about it's entire mission |
| 20:22.25 | mheath | "Oh, sorry, taxpayer, that we made you pay for this and flat out lied about the entire purpose of it." |
| 20:22.29 | findlay | at least violates 1st, 3rd, 4th, 5th, 6th, 7th, 8th amendments |
| 20:22.35 | mheath | If they were going to use it to wiretap, they'd say they were |
| 20:22.45 | findlay | whatever |
| 20:22.47 | Gate | mheath: you have far too much faith in government. Or far to little, depending on your perspective. |
| 20:22.51 | mheath | Just like they have publically announced the scope of their Executive Order justified wiretap decisions before |
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| 20:23.00 | Tene | Q_Continuum: you might be surprised by how much storage Google has. |
| 20:23.01 | Q_Continuum | mheath: The whole point of the NSA was to throw money at stuff they couldn't admit to doing. |
| 20:23.03 | findlay | thinks mheath is just in debate mode now |
| 20:23.12 | fadein | If they can lie about putting a man upon the moon, they can lie about anything |
| 20:23.15 | romanovic | haha. to be fair, I think there's an element of the interwebs who push NSA theories to the extreme, just like UFO conspiracy theorists did last century. |
| 20:23.21 | fadein | ducks |
| 20:23.27 | Q_Continuum | lol fadein |
| 20:23.38 | findlay | you mean, the moon isn't really there? |
| 20:23.43 | findlay | it's an NSA hologram? |
| 20:23.45 | fadein | It's a hologram |
| 20:23.52 | fadein | not the NSA - the Illuminati |
| 20:23.54 | mheath | findlay: it's been mined by the CheezeWiz company |
| 20:24.06 | mheath | they left nothing behind |
| 20:24.06 | findlay | whatever, they have many names |
| 20:24.13 | mheath | one of the biggest environmental catastrophies of our lifetime |
| 20:24.15 | fadein | the Reptilian mothership is hiding behind the hologram, biding its itme |
| 20:25.58 | mheath | Having worked for the government, I'm amused by people's faith in their ability to orchestrate unprecedented coverups |
| 20:26.04 | mheath | Especially in the internet age |
| 20:26.17 | fadein | mheath: that's exactly what a government employee would say |
| 20:26.23 | mheath | heh |
| 20:26.28 | ldav15 | Did you get my Cheez Wiz, boy? http://i.imgur.com/98T9O62.gif |
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| 20:27.28 | mheath | I have to sit through hours of classes and briefings that are basically oriented around "Don't sneeze the wrong way, or you'll ignite the biggest media firestorm in history." |
| 20:28.00 | mheath | Yet people think the government is capable of spending tens of billions of dollars and completely lieing about every aspect of the purpose |
| 20:29.04 | pashdown | trailblazer? |
| 20:29.08 | fugue88 | mheath: Your last two statement don't reconcile, for me. Perhaps you could elaborate on these classes? Sounds like the government's paying billions to cover up. |
| 20:29.37 | fugue88 | Or maybe you mean that the classes teach "if you say something wrong, someone will misinterpret it"? |
| 20:30.37 | mheath | Sorry, my classes / briefings were mainly in the context of military operations and such |
| 20:30.49 | mheath | Not that you're taught to intentionally cover things up |
| 20:31.06 | mheath | More that you're taught to always make decisions and conduct yourself in a way that prevents the media from having something to complain about |
| 20:31.38 | fugue88 | Okay, I think I get your point then. |
| 20:32.08 | mheath | Basically, it's their philosophy that "Anything you do will eventually be public, so make sure you're doing stuff that won't cause problems." |
| 20:32.26 | mheath | And NOT a philosophy of "Make sure you do a really, really good job of covering it up." |
| 20:32.36 | fugue88 | Yeah. |
| 20:32.47 | eightyeight | ~seen sinhue |
| 20:32.53 | ibot | eightyeight: i haven't seen 'sinhue' |
| 20:32.58 | eightyeight | hmm |
| 20:33.31 | Q_Continuum | Most everything the CIA/NSA does/has done is 'covert' and 'hidden' unless they screw up. Same with (some) parts of the military. *shrugs* |
| 20:33.55 | shalkie | eightyeight: He doesn't hang out here, however he is in #utos |
| 20:34.47 | fungus | mheath, your yahoo article specifically mentions that they are not doing so "unlawfully". It is lawful to store and index all of your email. Then when there is reasonable suspicion they can search your email in the future. |
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| 20:35.46 | shalkie | So there were some reports by reputable news agencies that a suspect in the bombings was arrested and would be presented at federal court tomorrow. The FBI and BPD have disputed having arrested a suspect. Now the courthouse has been evacuated from "bomb threats". |
| 20:36.34 | eightyeight | shalkie: thx |
| 20:36.47 | eightyeight | also, it helps to spell his nick correctly |
| 20:37.05 | shalkie | I think the premise they use is that they aren't actually reading the stuff, just storing it. So how is your privacy violated, right? |
| 20:37.15 | shalkie | eightyeight: I totally missed that too. |
| 20:39.07 | findlay | they outsource to sweatshops in asia who read and summarize your email for them |
| 20:39.58 | mahelious | lies. sweatshop asian cant read. |
| 20:43.50 | findlay | every autourinal is a lie too, they have little cameras and a guy watches hundreds of them and when you're done he remotely flushes it for you |
| 20:50.18 | eightyeight | so does that mean there isn't a little dude sitting inside my telephone receiver that listens for the word 'operator', and answers my queries? |
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| 20:54.30 | *** topic/#utah by sjansen -> Utah related discussion including user groups | logs @ http://ibot.rikers.org/%23utah/ | See also ##lds | OpenWest Conference 2013 Call for Papers openwest.org/cfp | https://fiber.google.com/cities/provo/ |
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| 20:56.43 | olli | hi |
| 20:56.49 | shalkie | low |
| 20:57.01 | olli | you have been waiting for that one ;) |
| 20:57.24 | shalkie | Se Senor... |
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| 21:01.02 | Snoggums | My CentOS VM has troubles with networking. eth0 doesn't exist, only eth1, so I configured things to go off of that. |
| 21:01.46 | Snoggums | So I try to force some magic spell by dhclient -v eth1 |
| 21:02.00 | Snoggums | and I'm getting an error "invalid domain list" |
| 21:04.40 | Snoggums | I guess /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth1 does not exist... |
| 21:09.37 | goozbach | Snoggums: there are usually three issues with VM centos interfaces |
| 21:09.50 | goozbach | 1) the vm has changed nicks since it was configured |
| 21:10.24 | goozbach | in that case, edit the files /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules and make your nic match the name you expect eth1>eth0 |
| 21:10.38 | goozbach | 2) the config file has the incorrect mac address |
| 21:10.59 | goozbach | verify that /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-<nic> matches the HWADDR line |
| 21:11.07 | findlay | sjansen shows up to change the subject after the fact |
| 21:11.08 | goozbach | 3) the config doesn't exist at all |
| 21:11.21 | goozbach | in that case, you need to build a new config file |
| 21:11.23 | Snoggums | I think it might be the third. |
| 21:11.25 | Snoggums | Hmm |
| 21:11.30 | Snoggums | Thank you |
| 21:11.31 | goozbach | the easiest way, system-config-network |
| 21:11.44 | findlay | system-config-all-rh-thingies |
| 21:11.51 | goozbach | why not |
| 21:11.54 | findlay | yay |
| 21:12.15 | goozbach | someone needs to make a system-config-all-the-things meme picture |
| 21:12.20 | goozbach | findlay: I nonimate you |
| 21:12.25 | findlay | ok |
| 21:12.53 | findlay | make a hotkey on your keyboard/an app on your phone |
| 21:13.16 | findlay | Jobs' utopia |
| 21:14.14 | findlay | sjansen-themed google provo fibre discussion |
| 21:14.19 | findlay | commences |
| 21:21.24 | findlay | "I see that you wish to configure all the things. Would you like to install windows 8 instead?" |
| 21:21.56 | Q_Continuum | goozbach: http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/400x/31389251.jpg |
| 21:25.22 | jima | Q_Continuum: get back to work! |
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| 21:30.16 | findlay | work back to git |
| 21:30.52 | tensai | git reset --hard |
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| 21:32.20 | findlay | it's kind of amusing that apple's stock is worth about the price of an ipad |
| 21:32.27 | findlay | 1 share == 1 ipad |
| 21:32.54 | goozbach | hah! |
| 21:33.32 | findlay | "I'd like to trade in my ipad for a share" "there's an app for that" |
| 21:42.26 | findlay | imagine how many digits of pi you could store on a yottabyte |
| 21:42.45 | findlay | enough to make Carl Sagan happy, probably |
| 21:51.37 | pashdown | speaking of trusting the government. has anyone heard how the cispa vote went? |
| 22:15.51 | Migs | https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10151868168294966&set=a.10151311735369966.562635.167774004965 |
| 22:15.54 | Migs | poor guy's going to get lynched |
| 22:18.05 | eightyeight | because no one has swiss army backpacks except bombers |
| 22:23.37 | Migs | I'll lol if that's actually the guy |
| 22:24.37 | Q_Continuum | eightyeight: Are you calling me a bomber? |
| 22:24.56 | eightyeight | you and me both, Q_Continuum |
| 22:25.26 | Q_Continuum | I've had mine for 6 years, still chugging along great. Finally starting to show some fraying though. |
| 22:25.42 | eightyeight | i got mine christmas of 2007. still going great as well |
| 22:25.52 | Q_Continuum | Bought it myself while working at BBY Corp |
| 22:25.55 | eightyeight | as is my thinkpad T61 from mar 2007 |
| 22:26.08 | joshh | my ful from costco is still awesome as well |
| 22:26.32 | Q_Continuum | GTFO tiem has arrived. |
| 22:26.36 | Q_Continuum | packs up |
| 22:26.52 | Q_Continuum | In my non-bomber swiss gear backpack |
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| 22:45.18 | shalkie | Even if we assume that the "after" picture is legitimate, are the "before" pictures from the Marathon? |
| 22:46.06 | shalkie | No way is there a rice cooker of any real size in a backpack and looking like that. |
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