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| 01:12.54 | pashdown | is that bad? it isn't free. |
| 01:13.41 | pashdown | goozbach, yeah, we can slave you |
| 01:14.18 | goozbach | pashdown: I think gate was refering to the fact that you can upgrade *JUST* the ram |
| 01:14.40 | pashdown | i was confused as to whether that was a positive or a negative :) |
| 01:14.47 | goozbach | without having it tied to other features of your VPS (CPU or DISK) |
| 01:15.00 | goozbach | I'd say positive |
| 01:15.05 | goozbach | my take anyhow |
| 01:15.10 | pashdown | glad to be on the right track |
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| 03:16.51 | Bobby_ | whats the irc server name for logging in with a IRC client |
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| 03:31.20 | shalkie | Well darn it Bobby_, if you leave no one can tell you it is irc.freenode.net. |
| 03:31.31 | shalkie | Or direct you to the FAQ. |
| 04:06.05 | Gate | pashdown: nope. Not bad. Good. Most hosting providers only give you preset plans which force you to overscale things like the processor or disk to get more RAM. I'm happy there are more granular options. |
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| 05:23.16 | findlay | increase ram by 13 kiB |
| 05:24.06 | findlay | "enemy is matching ram, captain" |
| 05:45.26 | Gate | Engage the SS Drive |
| 06:01.46 | eightyeight | heh |
| 06:01.56 | eightyeight | and to think i was just watching http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vFCBwob65Nw |
| 06:02.00 | eightyeight | star trek vs star wars |
| 06:09.48 | Gate | lol |
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| 06:53.21 | Sargun | SS Drive? |
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| 15:08.18 | goozbach | solid snake? |
| 15:08.33 | goozbach | it's when your hard drive hides in an "the orange" box |
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| 15:19.10 | shalkie | One more reason that I have come to dislike Dell: HTML emails with no alternative parts. |
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| 16:03.52 | opapo | I can't mount drives via CIFS and there are no logs in /var/log/kern.log nor /var/log/dmesg during the process |
| 16:04.27 | goozbach | opapo: using mount -t cifs? |
| 16:04.37 | goozbach | what does smbclient show you? |
| 16:04.45 | goozbach | you specifiying the proper username/pw? |
| 16:04.46 | opapo | I use mount -t cifs |
| 16:05.07 | opapo | I have mounted this for years and now it doesn't work |
| 16:05.38 | opapo | I did just upgrade my Ubuntu 12.04 machine |
| 16:05.48 | opapo | I will check smbclient |
| 16:07.49 | opapo | I can see data using smbclient |
| 16:09.04 | opapo | when i try to connect it will just sit |
| 16:09.15 | opapo | -vvv doesn't give any more data |
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| 16:12.25 | opapo | I ran "aptitude search ntfs" |
| 16:12.48 | opapo | I found libntfs-3g79 had a c on the first of the line |
| 16:12.53 | opapo | I think that is a conflict |
| 16:13.13 | opapo | I did "aptitude show libntfs-3g79" |
| 16:13.43 | opapo | It showed it was not installed, then I tried to uninstall it and it wants to uninstall linux kernels |
| 16:14.00 | opapo | I will verify that these are not the ones I am using and remove them. |
| 16:15.08 | opapo | I am using 3.2.0-40 and the ones aptitude wants to install are less than that. |
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| 16:34.21 | Tene | opapo: cifs is for mounting samba shares over the network; ntfs is a local filesystem. Those are not the same at all. |
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| 16:40.18 | bonez2046 | I think I need to buy a new router, to replace my cisco wrt54gv7...suggestions? I want to buy a device that i can hack, a la ddwrt et al.. |
| 16:40.57 | bonez2046 | my wrt54g requires frequent rebooting. It willl work fine for a week and then one day, the wireless gets 'flaky' and won't just always work |
| 16:44.53 | Q_Continuum | I'd look at buffalo's line |
| 16:45.02 | Q_Continuum | they ship with DD-WRT as their "professional" firmware |
| 16:45.41 | Q_Continuum | One of their higher models (either the -450 or -600) had more RAM if you were going to be running crap in it, and the -300 -450 and -600 were all in the $60-$80 range last I checked. |
| 16:46.01 | Q_Continuum | I've also heard Asus has a similarly capable model |
| 16:46.31 | Q_Continuum | Both are considered spirtual successors to the WRT54G, with gigabit, and 802.11n support |
| 16:48.29 | Jayce^ | Q_Continuum: don't they have one with AC support out now as well? |
| 16:49.12 | Q_Continuum | I think so |
| 16:49.50 | goozbach | I wasn't a fan of the buffalo router I got |
| 16:49.57 | goozbach | the range seemed a bit limited |
| 16:50.15 | Q_Continuum | Muck with power/range settings at all? |
| 16:50.19 | goozbach | Q_Continuum: yeah |
| 16:50.35 | goozbach | the non-replaceable antennea were crap |
| 16:50.38 | Q_Continuum | I set one up for my folks, I haven't used them much past that - jima's got a pair of an older hw rev of 'em. |
| 16:50.40 | Q_Continuum | Ah |
| 16:51.02 | Q_Continuum | The N450 has removable ones |
| 16:52.03 | Q_Continuum | Jayce^: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833162067 - looks like $160 for the AC model |
| 16:52.42 | bonez2046 | AC support? |
| 16:54.55 | bonez2046 | what does that AC signify? |
| 16:55.48 | fungus | 802.11ac |
| 16:56.18 | Jayce^ | gigabit wireless |
| 16:57.50 | Migs | http://oonce-oonce.com/ |
| 16:58.18 | bonez2046 | ah, ok |
| 16:59.00 | Jayce^ | Migs: nice |
| 17:00.05 | bonez2046 | it never ends, does it |
| 17:01.02 | goozbach | now I need a "bitleee be boo".com and "the system is down".com |
| 17:01.41 | Jayce^ | goozbach: "toot toot".com ? |
| 17:05.18 | goozbach | hah |
| 17:05.45 | goozbach | coolio! I just got accepted to the bittorrent sync alpha |
| 17:06.17 | bonez2046 | what's the topic tonight? |
| 17:10.10 | bonez2046 | smorgasboard, I see... |
| 17:11.06 | bonez2046 | I should bring my 13 yo son. he recently asked to burn a new distro and then figured out , by himself, how to get it installed and running. |
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| 17:14.10 | findlay | https://action.eff.org/o/9042/p/dia/action/public/?action_KEY=9202 |
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| 17:24.35 | mahelious | ac seems passable. waiting until the ad stuff comes out next year to upgrade. |
| 17:27.44 | Gate | Sargun: Solid State Drive |
| 17:28.00 | goozbach | I like solid snake drive better |
| 17:29.13 | findlay | ~lart Sargun |
| 17:29.13 | ibot | nukes Sargun with a single large nuke |
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| 19:42.23 | opapo | I'll try again. Here is my troubleshooting steps and resultant data: http://pastebin.com/qmvWve5n |
| 19:42.46 | opapo | I can attach to a cifs share with smbclient, but not with mount.cifs |
| 19:49.04 | goozbach | opapo: just to verify, it's a network CIFS(share) not an NTFS hard drive partition, correct? |
| 19:51.44 | opapo | correct. The reason I brought up NTFS was there was a message: |
| 19:51.47 | opapo | Apr 15 14:11:17 daniel kernel: [ 132.676280] CIFS VFS: default security mechanism requested. The default security mechanism will be upgraded from ntlm to ntlmv2 in kernel release 3.3 |
| 19:52.07 | opapo | I realize it is ntlm not ntfs, I just got mixed up |
| 19:53.04 | Jayce^ | pfft, such mistakes are not allowed in here.. we're all to good to do things like that! |
| 19:53.33 | opapo | ~lart Jayce^ |
| 19:53.33 | ibot | executes killall -HUP Jayce^ |
| 19:54.04 | Jayce^ | really wishes there was a way to HUP the day, would restart all refreshed and ready to go |
| 19:54.30 | Jayce^ | actually, the full list of kill signals would be nice in meetings as well |
| 19:54.55 | Jayce^ | kill -9 anything that was scheduled for me by marketing.. |
| 19:55.07 | opapo | :) |
| 19:57.46 | kylie_ | fozzmoo? |
| 19:57.57 | fozzmoo | kylie_: yeesssss? |
| 19:58.31 | kylie_ | ... Is Europa in production right now? |
| 19:58.46 | fozzmoo | Europa? |
| 19:59.13 | kylie_ | Nevermind, wrong person. |
| 19:59.17 | fozzmoo | :) |
| 19:59.34 | Jayce^ | wonders about anybody with similarities to fozzmoo |
| 19:59.57 | kylie_ | IRL names and IRC names are hard to keep track of. |
| 20:00.29 | Migs | if only there were some sort of 'address book' that could help keep track of it all |
| 20:00.37 | kylie_ | Shh |
| 20:06.56 | Q_Continuum | kylie_: That's why I respond IRL to my IRC name. Then again, I've used it for over a decade...and the variant of it for gaming I respond to as well, thanks to ~a decade of Vent/TeamSpeak usage |
| 20:08.39 | Jayce^ | and hence mine being so close to my real name |
| 20:08.43 | Jayce^ | makes it even easier |
| 20:19.05 | kylie_ | Has anyone used BackupPC? |
| 20:19.35 | joshh | i like it |
| 20:20.11 | kylie_ | Yeah? Looking up Amanda as well. |
| 20:20.16 | joshh | basically rsync backups with no thought required |
| 20:20.18 | joshh | don't do amanda |
| 20:20.45 | kylie_ | Oh? |
| 20:21.06 | joshh | it used to be popular for tapes, didn't know it still existed |
| 20:21.09 | joshh | huh |
| 20:21.55 | Q_Continuum | I ahven't used BackupPC, but the environment I'm taking over does. (Haven't gotten that far yet in the takeover process) |
| 20:22.26 | kylie_ | Ha, Amanda FAQ: "Amanda has been running fine for years, and just stopped" |
| 20:23.12 | kylie_ | Q_Continuum: I hope that goes well for you. |
| 20:27.26 | peno | BackupPC works okay. last company I was at used it. |
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| 20:34.56 | Q_Continuum | kylie_: Should. The stack is stable and working, even though it hasn't been well-fed over the years. That is changing as I take it over and migrate it to new hardware. |
| 20:35.14 | Q_Continuum | As it now has a dedicated sysadmin again, after not for awhile. |
| 20:35.26 | Q_Continuum | So it fell back on the devs of the environment to maintain it. |
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| 21:14.33 | goozbach | Jayce^: you mean your real name isn't "atJaycecarrot"? |
| 21:16.57 | jsmith | goozbach: That's SirJayceCarat to you :-p |
| 21:22.22 | Tene | kylie_: I've got a friend who rather likes BackupPC; I think he's using tarsnap these days though. |
| 21:23.14 | kylie_ | Online backups? |
| 21:23.15 | jlp_work | goozbach: I thought it was @JayceHat |
| 21:23.18 | kylie_ | Interesting. |
| 21:24.01 | Jayce^ | we had an interview recently with somebody that *STILL* uses Pascal at work, which was quite a flashback to where the ^ came from.. |
| 21:24.08 | Jayce^ | (back in high school) |
| 21:24.24 | jlp_work | ahh, pascal pointers |
| 21:24.42 | Jayce^ | yup, first experience with them |
| 21:24.49 | Jayce^ | and it stuck...in the nick |
| 21:24.55 | jlp_work | so much... safer... than C pointers |
| 21:25.09 | jlp_work | Pascal: you may have a pointer to this. |
| 21:25.14 | jlp_work | C: pointer? sure, whatever. |
| 21:25.17 | Jayce^ | and yet still was quite possibly to hang the 8088's at school when you were learning them |
| 21:25.58 | jlp_work | my first two years in college we did mostly Pascal |
| 21:26.21 | jlp_work | intro programming, data structures, and algorithms |
| 21:26.28 | Jayce^ | yeah, did a year of Delphi towards the end... or would that be End. |
| 21:26.37 | fugue88 | :D |
| 21:26.39 | jlp_work | :-) |
| 21:27.15 | Jayce^ | first non college programming job was pascal/delphi work along with C.. glad that didn't go for to long |
| 21:27.31 | jsmith | Jayce^: Beats dBase III :-p |
| 21:27.55 | jlp_work | ugh, I remember trying to write in C on the Mac back when the C compiler first came out. you had to convert to/from Pascal strings yourself. |
| 21:28.11 | jlp_work | the old Mac was a Pascal machine |
| 21:28.41 | Jayce^ | jsmith: oh, used that too |
| 21:29.03 | Jayce^ | thought more IV iirc |
| 21:32.09 | jsmith | Jayce^: My first paid programming job was in dBase III+. My second was in CrossTalk. Go figure :-/ |
| 21:32.37 | jlp_work | mine was in C, porting a program from Unix to VMS. C on VMS also left some things to be desired. |
| 21:32.48 | HumanCell | Jayce^: do you know of any Amazon outages right now? |
| 21:32.49 | Jayce^ | is shamed to have a first paid programming job of vb.. (v. 4) |
| 21:33.10 | Jayce^ | HumanCell: not right now I'm not, our ops might be more on that though |
| 21:33.32 | HumanCell | They (on their status page) are claiming none ... can you get to http://www.Top500.org ? |
| 21:33.58 | Jayce^ | there have been a crap-ton of attacks going out to providers recently |
| 21:34.07 | Jayce^ | HumanCell: stuck in 'waiting for' |
| 21:34.33 | HumanCell | I've seen that ... and been getting lots on my servers. I'm not able to get to a TON of sites hosted at Amazon and RackSpace ... |
| 21:35.11 | Jayce^ | yesterday was particularly nasty |
| 21:35.25 | Jayce^ | and all the recent WP brute-force attacks have really been hitting hard |
| 21:36.31 | HumanCell | We live in wild times! Virtual and physical world attacks coming in strong ... |
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| 21:49.42 | fozzmoo | Hmmm. Trying to think back to my first programming job. |
| 21:51.01 | fozzmoo | I think it was in C. I was a "computer operator" for $8/hr at a place in Logan. What that really meant was that I was their system administrator who worked for peanuts because I was still in school. I managed a large SysV Unix system that ran on four 486 CPUs. |
| 21:51.44 | fozzmoo | I wrote a terminal-mode menu system for them with curses.h in C. |
| 21:52.12 | Migs | my first programming job was as an $8/hr database administrator for a scrapbooking company in Ogden |
| 21:52.24 | Migs | also still in school |
| 21:52.53 | Migs | it was a home business, with the most uptight boss ever |
| 21:53.48 | Migs | it's funny thinking about it now |
| 21:54.12 | Migs | she didn't appreciate the miracles I worked on the most ridiculously unreasonable deadlines |
| 21:55.55 | fozzmoo | Yep. Underpaid. Underappreciated. Overworked. |
| 21:56.18 | Jayce^ | 4.75/hr.. student working for the school |
| 21:56.30 | Jayce^ | made a whole $0.10 more than the standard for the 'skills required' |
| 21:56.48 | fozzmoo | Yeah. I had a 4.50/hr consultant job working at USU too. That was 0.25/hr higher than min wage then. |
| 21:57.24 | fozzmoo | Probably learned more on that job than in any of my classes. |
| 21:57.47 | Migs | same |
| 21:58.10 | Migs | I think my classes gave me a general idea of vague concepts, but that's it |
| 21:58.22 | Migs | when it comes to IT work, experience always trumps education |
| 21:58.29 | Migs | in my opinion, at least |
| 21:58.43 | Jayce^ | yup, first place I used a real db vs dumb class examples... sybase on an IRIX box |
| 22:10.17 | goozbach | Jayce^: one for you: http://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/1cgsk9/active_duty_soldier_illegally_disarmed_and/ |
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